Comments on: Lottery winners, the camera, and the mirror http://neoneocon.com/2006/02/26/lottery-winners-camera-and-mirror/ Fri, 29 Aug 2008 21:14:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: douglas http://neoneocon.com/2006/02/26/lottery-winners-camera-and-mirror/#comment-10686 douglas Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/02/26/lottery-winners-camera-and-mirror/#comment-10686 Steve, there's a difference between caring about how one looks and vanity, but I guess from where you stand, it's all to one side of the spectrum...that's called a perspective problem.<BR/><BR/>Video blogging? No thanks. How do you 'preview' video blogging? Steve, there’s a difference between caring about how one looks and vanity, but I guess from where you stand, it’s all to one side of the spectrum…that’s called a perspective problem.

Video blogging? No thanks. How do you ‘preview’ video blogging?

]]> By: Assistant Village Idiot http://neoneocon.com/2006/02/26/lottery-winners-camera-and-mirror/#comment-10687 Assistant Village Idiot Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/02/26/lottery-winners-camera-and-mirror/#comment-10687 I have previously made the argument that the Renaissance got its liftoff in Northern Italy in the late 13th C, because of the great improvement in Venetian mirrors. Not only could the wealthy and educated see themselves more clearly -- and often, but thousand of people in the glass trade got to see themelves at least infrequently. <BR/><BR/>We literally saw ourselves in a new way. I have previously made the argument that the Renaissance got its liftoff in Northern Italy in the late 13th C, because of the great improvement in Venetian mirrors. Not only could the wealthy and educated see themselves more clearly — and often, but thousand of people in the glass trade got to see themelves at least infrequently.

We literally saw ourselves in a new way.

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://neoneocon.com/2006/02/26/lottery-winners-camera-and-mirror/#comment-10688 Ymarsakar Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/02/26/lottery-winners-camera-and-mirror/#comment-10688 <I>What you of the CHOAM directorate seem unable to understand is that you seldom find real loyalties in commerce. When did you last hear of a clerk giving his life for the company? Perhaps your deficiency rests in the false assumption that you can order men to think and cooperate. This has been a failure of everything from religions to general staffs throughout history. General staffs have a long record of destroying their own nations. As to religions, I recommend a rereading of Thomas Aquinas. As to you of CHOAM, what nonsense you believe! Men must want to do things out of their own innermost drives. People, not commercial organizations or chains of command, are what make great civilizations work. Every civilization depends upon the quality of the individuals it produces. If you over-organize humans, over-legalize them, suppress their urge to greatness -- they cannot work and their civilization collapses.<BR/>-A letter to CHOAM, Attributed to The Preacher</I> What you of the CHOAM directorate seem unable to understand is that you seldom find real loyalties in commerce. When did you last hear of a clerk giving his life for the company? Perhaps your deficiency rests in the false assumption that you can order men to think and cooperate. This has been a failure of everything from religions to general staffs throughout history. General staffs have a long record of destroying their own nations. As to religions, I recommend a rereading of Thomas Aquinas. As to you of CHOAM, what nonsense you believe! Men must want to do things out of their own innermost drives. People, not commercial organizations or chains of command, are what make great civilizations work. Every civilization depends upon the quality of the individuals it produces. If you over-organize humans, over-legalize them, suppress their urge to greatness — they cannot work and their civilization collapses.
-A letter to CHOAM, Attributed to The Preacher

]]> By: Anonymous http://neoneocon.com/2006/02/26/lottery-winners-camera-and-mirror/#comment-10689 Anonymous Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/02/26/lottery-winners-camera-and-mirror/#comment-10689 <I>Steve-"I generally ignore my appearance because I know in 100 years I'm going to look just terrible."<BR/>That's cute, but incredibly selfish. </I><BR/><BR/>One man's unselfishness is another man's vanity. - Steve Steve-”I generally ignore my appearance because I know in 100 years I’m going to look just terrible.”
That’s cute, but incredibly selfish.

One man’s unselfishness is another man’s vanity. - Steve

]]> By: Anonymous http://neoneocon.com/2006/02/26/lottery-winners-camera-and-mirror/#comment-10690 Anonymous Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/02/26/lottery-winners-camera-and-mirror/#comment-10690 Just as an aside...In college we tried to improve our interviewing skills by teaming up with a classmate and going through a set of interview questions, then we would review the tape in class. When my firend and I came to the question about special skills we decided to have the interviewee say yes and then stop the videotape and have him step out of the picture then turn on the tape and announce that he could make himself invisible. We got pretty good laughs and even made a boring day interesting for some. Just as an aside…In college we tried to improve our interviewing skills by teaming up with a classmate and going through a set of interview questions, then we would review the tape in class. When my firend and I came to the question about special skills we decided to have the interviewee say yes and then stop the videotape and have him step out of the picture then turn on the tape and announce that he could make himself invisible. We got pretty good laughs and even made a boring day interesting for some.

]]> By: douglas http://neoneocon.com/2006/02/26/lottery-winners-camera-and-mirror/#comment-10691 douglas Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/02/26/lottery-winners-camera-and-mirror/#comment-10691 Oh, and Neo, that was one beautifully crafted post. Oh, and Neo, that was one beautifully crafted post.

]]> By: douglas http://neoneocon.com/2006/02/26/lottery-winners-camera-and-mirror/#comment-10692 douglas Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/02/26/lottery-winners-camera-and-mirror/#comment-10692 <I>Steve-"I generally ignore my appearance because I know in 100 years I'm going to look just terrible."</I><BR/>That's cute, but incredibly selfish. When you go out in public, people have to look at you, and what do you communicate to them? 'I don't give a rats ass about you, I'M saving my energy for things more important to ME.' Appeatance matters in the social discourse- well except here. It's akin to saying 'I don't care to use proper grammar when I speak in public, because it doesn't really say anything about me and it's too much trouble. Steve-”I generally ignore my appearance because I know in 100 years I’m going to look just terrible.”
That’s cute, but incredibly selfish. When you go out in public, people have to look at you, and what do you communicate to them? ‘I don’t give a rats ass about you, I’M saving my energy for things more important to ME.’ Appeatance matters in the social discourse- well except here. It’s akin to saying ‘I don’t care to use proper grammar when I speak in public, because it doesn’t really say anything about me and it’s too much trouble.

]]> By: jng http://neoneocon.com/2006/02/26/lottery-winners-camera-and-mirror/#comment-10693 jng Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/02/26/lottery-winners-camera-and-mirror/#comment-10693 Am I just an image? Am I just an image?

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://neoneocon.com/2006/02/26/lottery-winners-camera-and-mirror/#comment-10694 Ymarsakar Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/02/26/lottery-winners-camera-and-mirror/#comment-10694 Those civil war photoees have a right to be stiff, since presumably they need to stand still for a minute for the exposure to set.<BR/><BR/>I'd be stiff too if I had to stand in front of a camera and do the freeze. Those civil war photoees have a right to be stiff, since presumably they need to stand still for a minute for the exposure to set.

I’d be stiff too if I had to stand in front of a camera and do the freeze.

]]> By: camojack http://neoneocon.com/2006/02/26/lottery-winners-camera-and-mirror/#comment-10695 camojack Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/02/26/lottery-winners-camera-and-mirror/#comment-10695 Having worked on a dozen movies and a number of commercials, cameras are just one more thing to which I've grown accustomed. <BR/><BR/>Me, and <I>millions</I> of others... Having worked on a dozen movies and a number of commercials, cameras are just one more thing to which I’ve grown accustomed.

Me, and millions of others…

]]> By: Ron http://neoneocon.com/2006/02/26/lottery-winners-camera-and-mirror/#comment-10696 Ron Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/02/26/lottery-winners-camera-and-mirror/#comment-10696 Yes, but on the other hand, recording makes things last longer culturally. At one point a song or other artistic creation that was 20, 30, 40 years was viewed as ancient, because it only existed in one's memory. We watch -- and quote! -- <I>Casablanca</I> on a regular basis, even though it's now 60 years old! This is so true with so many things... Yes, but on the other hand, recording makes things last longer culturally. At one point a song or other artistic creation that was 20, 30, 40 years was viewed as ancient, because it only existed in one’s memory. We watch — and quote! — Casablanca on a regular basis, even though it’s now 60 years old! This is so true with so many things…

]]> By: Steve http://neoneocon.com/2006/02/26/lottery-winners-camera-and-mirror/#comment-10697 Steve Sat, 03 Mar 2007 07:00:00 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/02/26/lottery-winners-camera-and-mirror/#comment-10697 I think it's very true that people are less self-conscious in front of a microphone or camera but I don't really know why.<BR/><BR/>Having taped myself periodically over the past 40 years I would say that the difference between your voice as it is recorded vs as it sounds to you when speaking is dramatic. <BR/><BR/>Videotape is also enlightening, but to me less dramatic, although I have been watching my bald spot grow everytime I go to a liquor store for the past 20 years ....<BR/><BR/>Obsession with looks strikes both genders but it is stronger for a woman because in society a woman's looks are a social/romantic/relationship entre. It may be sexist but there it is.<BR/><BR/>I generally ignore my appearance because I know in 100 years I'm going to look just terrible. I think it’s very true that people are less self-conscious in front of a microphone or camera but I don’t really know why.

Having taped myself periodically over the past 40 years I would say that the difference between your voice as it is recorded vs as it sounds to you when speaking is dramatic.

Videotape is also enlightening, but to me less dramatic, although I have been watching my bald spot grow everytime I go to a liquor store for the past 20 years ….

Obsession with looks strikes both genders but it is stronger for a woman because in society a woman’s looks are a social/romantic/relationship entre. It may be sexist but there it is.

I generally ignore my appearance because I know in 100 years I’m going to look just terrible.

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