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  1. Take the apple, for example. In nineteenth-century America, frontier dwellers far from the trading posts of the East lacked a source of sweetness in their diet — and sugar with which to make alcohol. So when a man named John Chapman (a.k.a. Johnny Appleseed) floated down the Ohio River with bushels of apple seeds in his canoe, the settlers seized on the opportunity to grow the fruit on their new land. The pioneers’ desire for sweetness was satisfied — and the apple was given a whole new continent on which to blossom. So who is really domesticating whom?
    –From publisher’s notes for Pollan’s BOTANY OF DESIRE
    –David72

  2. Agree with the many comments about they decline in apple taste. Growers have moved towards appearance and shelf life at the expense of flavor.

    Just last Friday I executed my own plan to bring flavorful apples back into my life. I planted ten young apple trees, of six different varieties, all heirloom strains that used to be widely cultivated here in central Virginia. Winesap, black twig, winter banana, crispin, and Virginia gold. Perhaps in 4 to 5 years I will be enjoying flavorful apples once again.

    In the meantime, I’ll struggle along with farmstand apples. No precut slices for me.

  3. My father studies agriculture and food production and has been obsessed with baby carrots for some time. A baby carrot is made from two cuts in a 9″ carrot, so three parts of maybe 2.5″ (after they’re shaved down) each. You can reassemble “ghost carrots” from baby carrots, with the thick top, the regular middle, and the tapering end. My father loves to do this. He’s a hit at parties.

    Currently there is a race on to develop the 12″ carrot, one that can take three cuts and produce four baby carrots from each mama carrot. The problem is making a 12″ carrot consistently straight enough for current machinery. So the baby carrot, born as a solution to Crooked Carrot Syndrome, has re-created the problem on a longer scale.

    The other vital piece of carrot information is that the modern carrot has far more beta carotene than the carrots of a century ago. Consumers generally prefer orange carrots, so farmers have bred carrots that are more and more orange, and the orange is beta carotene. This is pretty unusual, in that modern consumer-driven engineering has generally produced fruits and vegetables that are less nutritious than their 19th century predecessors.

    once you’ve started an apple, you’re sort of committed to eating the whole thing

    It’s delightfully ironic that, after we’ve spent decades engineering them to be larger, the behemoth grocery store apple is suddenly too big to eat.

  4. I like both Fuji and Gala apples for flavor and crispness. Luckily, they carry them year around where I’m at. I haven’t eaten a Red or Golden Delicous in decades they’re so yucky. Granny Smiths make perfect apple sauce however, no sugar necessary, a lot of sweetness come out of the peel if you leave it on.
    Jan/CascadeExposures

  5. Does anyone recall the time I stole “The son of Man”? Sent those bobbies on a bit of a goose chase, eh chaps.

  6. There are plenty of apple varieties between Delicious and Granny Smith: Jonathan comes to mind, and when I was at Cornell, they had dozens of new types that they were breeding all the time. Made a great apple juice blend.

    Delicious is most decidedly not. And Granny Smith’s become more palatable with a dash of salt.

  7. I live in a small town, near a lot of small and older orchards. The best fruit, from the first cherries, cotts, peaches, pears to the last apples are the varieties which do not ship well. Too tender to ship, but OOOOH so good.

    Your post remineded me of an ad I saw in a bus, during my R & R in Austrailia, 1971.

    An apple a day keeps the Doctor away.
    And the picture shows a man throwing an apple at a Doctor, who is attempting to duck.

  8. It’s not just apples, but much of our produce in general.

    I like hot peppers, have since I first ate one in the early 90’s. Back then it was difficult to find fresh outside of large markets and the only pickled ones were jalapeno’s. You could get a jalapeno that would burn pretty good, even to those of us who ate truly hot foods.

    Nowadays jalapenos are pretty much like bell peppers, don’t even need gloves to cut up. If I purchase american made chipotle peppers (smoked jalapeno’s in adobo sauce) I can eat it by the spoonfull. If I buy chipotle’s imported from mexico – back like they used to be. Heck, I can eat store bought habanero’s raw – no way I should be able to do so.

    The fact that habanero salsa variants and sauces are served in wendy’s and sonic shows how much it’s been breed down. For many it’s like a badge of honor (and thus a market for not so hot ones so they can say they eat them) – though it’s amusing when they get a hold of a real one.

    Even as late as 98-99 my hot sauce needed no more than 10 habaneros – usually around 5, now my last I made that was just them used over 30 and became more “paste” than sauce (and thus, not really acceptable). I either have to grow my own from specilised seed producers or use capsaicin extracts to get hot enough (which I also make myself).

    The best part of the summer is the little garden I grow. A few hot peppers, cucumbers, and various other vegetables that are of poor quality in the anything but specialy grocery stores.

  9. I’m fortunate to live not far from an orchard that hasn’t been paved over yet; once in awhile, usually fall, I go there with my family and we get bags of apples (must be like 10 varieties), pears, etc.

    Price is cheap because you pick them yourself. It’s fun to work with your kids picking fruit.

    Nice lyric posts today.

  10. Yeah, I’ve had the problem with the mealy/tasteless Red Delicious. My local Wal-Mart of all places (yeah, I know – no, I’m not employed there!) has actually had a nice run of big juicy ones.

    I do the bite-sized carrots, but I’m too attached to the snap of biting into the apple skin to give that up.

  11. I noticed the bags of sliced apples in the stores for some time before I bought one, but when I did it kind of took me back to my childhood.

    My boyhood was spent, for some years, in a small town that revolved around apple orchards and there were several adjacent to our land. Some of my most persistent memories center on those orchards and the afternoons spent up in the trees snacking on Golden Delicious and Red Delicious. I think it was Mark Twain who said that the only thing that improves the taste of a perfect watermelon is hooking it out of the patch.

    I became, forever after, an apple snob and although I would continue to actually buy them frequently, I became, over the years, more and more disappointed in them. In time I noticed that they didn’t satisfy my basic requirements and pretty much took them off my list of prefered foods.

    I require both flavor and snapping crispness from an apple. Absent either one, I’ll toss an apple after the first bite, and I am now almost consistently disappointed by whole apples purchased in grocery stores.

    The Neo Apple, a Granny Smith, is dependably crisp but is, frankly, a shade too much towards a pie apple for repeated snacking. The Red Delicious is simply a write-off and I don’t even notice them in the stores any longer. Every so often I’m in the country when apples come in and then I’ll indulge myself at a drive-by fruit stand with a decent red delicious, but only if they have sample slices set out.

    The most perfect apples remain those of my childhood, the golden delicious, stolen from the branch while high up in the tree with a stash of comic books from the Feed Store at the end of the road. It is predominantly pale green with smooth areas of pale yellow shading to gold and sometimes just a hint of red. It is not cold from the icebox but warm from the sun. It is eaten in quantities of six or more easily. The cores are dropped down below to the foot of the tree.

    Absent that apple lost as the snows of yesteryear, I’ve found that for flavor and crispness the snack pack sliced apples are the only dependable urban alternative. Especially if you leave them in the bag in the afternoon sun to warm up just a bit.

    It’s not often that technology, especially food technology, improves food, but the apple snack pack gets my vote.

  12. I always liked the smaller, crispy, tart apples. Red Delicious are definitely mealy.

    Beyond that, I don’t get too excited with apples, and I cannot imagine why I would buy slices. Seems silly. “Disgust” factor seems silly, too. How squeemish are we becoming? I scrub public toilets five days a week. I don’t see a half-eaten apple as being disgusting. Not when I have to clean …….

  13. Red Delicious, and Cox Orange, are not good “keepers”. The only way I know of getting good ones is the traditional orchard night raid.

    That raises two other things –

    First, the latest apple “breed” in NZ is a red fleshed variety that is being made available to orchardists this year so the first fruit should be on the market in about 5 years.

    Second, not far from my little dacha at Opononi (about an hours drive) there is a couple who are collecting and reproducing a large number of fruit and vegetable “breeds” from around the north. Included in that are two varieties of pear from the mid 1800’s that had been thought lost forever.

    Anyone wanting gnarly carrots – go to the small seed sellers… and be prepared to dig deep.

    As for flavour there is nothing that beats freshness. That means out of the ground fresh…

  14. Re: produce flavor vs. appearance- We’ve taken to getting our produce at a local chain that caters more to local immigrants. The produce is much less ‘perfect’, and is MUCH cheaper, and tastes a little better, at least to me. In Europe, it’s still about flavor- tomatoes come on the vine, and everything in the produce dept. tastes better.

  15. T’were it not really you
    behind the apple peeking through
    but some mystery woman in lieu
    t’is probable I would’st bid this blog adieu
    The Lonely Donut Man (LDM)

  16. Why?

    It’s just a pavlovian response. I suppose the economics favor a counter-pavolovian strategy.

  17. To Arthur Parry: Actually, if you read the Times article (which, granted, is rather long), they address that issue. One of the reasons people have turned away from apples is previously bad experiences with them, especially Red Delicious ones–mealy, tasteless, etc.. Apparently, after such a bad experience, people tend to reject apples because they can’t trust that the ones that look good in fact are good.

    The developers of the sliced apple snacks do all sorts of things (described in the article) to standardize and improve the taste of their apples, and thus to avoid that problem.

    It’s quite mind-boggling.

  18. I think the apple has already been transformed. Most of what they offer are Red Delicious, which look all perfect and red, but are mealy and bland when you bite into them. I think the flavor of Red Delicious has gone down noticibly in my life time. Maybe if they bred for flavor instead of appearance they wouldn’t have to blame declining sales on ‘snackability.’

    Granny Smith is still a pretty good apple, though.

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