When you wrote: “Besides which he’s an American, not a dirty foreigner”, wasn’t the “dirty foreigner” referring to yourself rather than nconned?

There’s that coyness again, though: I’ve no idea, or interest in, where you are, it’s your country of origin that I was referring to.

And yes, this is to much fun.

Isn’t this just too much fun?

And I am not in Australia,

Well, there was the “dirty foreigner” bit, and your obvious coyness about revealing said country — but if you’re not ashamed of it, glad to hear it. Austrailia’s doing a very creditable job in the global war on Islamism, after all.

Night, night, confud.

This one’s even better, but you have to be able to see a bald-faced lie as funny:

I did not SELECT those passages, I posted the official Duelfer report summary, as you would’ve known had you bothered to follow the link I provided.

(Here’s that link again, for anyone who’d like to look for themselves, and compare with Stevie’s comment at 9:38 above: http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/iraq_wmd_2004/Comp_Report_Key_Findings.pdf.)

Oh, and “STUPID & IGNORANT”?? You used to be able to do better than that, Stevie. Why not work on your pimp imitation some more?

Your statement that am ashamed of anything is fantasy. Please post a pointer to said shame.

No one can claim to know all about m e “politics” Silly, it is labyrinthine. Even terming it politics doesn’t adequately describe the dynamic of m e power broking.

I do try though when time allows. You should try it. Read someone who you’d probably term a leftie for an insight into the complexity. I note that you have skirted the Mossad-Hamas relationship. How odd! (Scratches chin)

Being called an idiot by a 12 year old whose best friend thinks he is Luke Skywalker and has another ally who is devoted to Korean sex robots isn’t going to lose me much sleep. Tally ho.

This one is hilarious:

“We know for a fact there are weapons there.” - Ari Fleischer, Jan. 9, 2003
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/01/20030109-8.html

Dear STUPID & IGNORANT,

I did not SELECT those passages, I posted the official Duelfer report summary, as you would’ve known had you bothered to follow the link I provided.

By the way, I don’t think you need to be ashamed of your own country — most Aussie’s might be a tad embarrassed by you, however.

“Whenever you get stuck, you can always crank out some more insults!

Or, and this is just some unsolicited advice, you could take a leaf from your clone, nconned, and throw in the occasional bit of sense and rationality just to change things up a bit, and maybe fool the unwary.”

Actually Silly, it was your 5th column and apologist attempts to insult me (they were insults to my intelligence) that dumbed everything down. I’ve posted several uncomfortable for your line pieces that you’ve chosen either not to respond to or in one case posted a boy’s own brown shirt mini drama piece to “debunk” my statement of fact.

Are you 12?

And BTW neoconned is obviously way smarter than I am, so its a bit of an insult to call him my clone. Besides which he’s an American, not a dirty foreigner. That still counts for brownie points on your planet doesn’t it?

Thats a big leap and very sloppy actually. “Of course” doesn’t really cut it and displays your sneering pomposity with ignorance. You don’t think that Iran may have been a bit sore and jumpy due to Saddam’s waging an 8 year war against Tehran with massive loss of life (800,000 to 1 million) and huge economic ramifications for the state and the citizenry do you?

Saddam’s arms and munitions (conventional, biological and chemical) were paid for by the good old freedom lovers at Uncle Sam’s ranch and their whacky pals the House of Saud.

More than that, the US directly struck Iranian civilian targets, blasted a civilian aircraft on a scheduled daily flight out of the sky and blockaded its oil exports for Ronnie Raygun’s “rock in the middle east”.

And you wonder why they don’t like you and they feel a touch threatened by the western world.

You see Sally, it is way more complex than you can grasp. In the face of the horrors that these people (and they are human beings not demons) you can’t forgive them their distrust but you blandly seek the boo hoo vote because a lunatic (not connected with either of these nations) organized a few planes flown into New York and Washington. Your trauma is reason enough to unleash war on civilians no closer to Bin Laden than you or I. But in the face of their losses you can feel no empathy or reason to clearly analyse this non crisis.

And, don’t mention selling oil in Euros for gawd’s sake. That, would be way beyond you.

And please, don’t mention the pipeline through Afghanistan. That may look bad too.

I’m struggling to convince myself this is fun anymore

What, troll burnout!?? Oh, say it isn’t so, confud! Come on, it’s always darkest before the dawn, it’s the end of the beginning, every cloud saves two in the bush, and all that. Whenever you get stuck, you can always crank out some more insults!

Or, and this is just some unsolicited advice, you could take a leaf from your clone, nconned, and throw in the occasional bit of sense and rationality just to change things up a bit, and maybe fool the unwary.

Here’s what Stevie carefully selected:
Saddam wanted to recreate Iraq’s WMD capability—which was essentially destroyed in 1991—after sanctions were removed and Iraq’s economy stabilized, but probably with a different mix of capabilities to that which previously existed.
Here’s the very next sentence, which he carefully left out:
Saddam aspired to develop a nuclear capability—in an incremental fashion, irrespective of international pressure and the resulting economic risks—but he intended to focus on ballistic
missile and tactical chemical warfare (CW) capabilities.

Here’s where we see Stevie’s inability to understand what he reads:
Iran was the pre-eminent motivator of this policy. All senior level Iraqi officials
considered Iran to be Iraq’s principal enemy in the region. The wish to balance Israel and acquire status and influence in the Arab world were also considerations, but secondary.

Likely true, but he doesn’t think to ask why Iran might be the principal enemy in the region. The answer, of course, is that Iran constituted the principal rival to his own plans to dominate the region — after which, as most understood very well, the “secondary” and even tertiary considerations would assume much greater importance.

And so he goes, somewhat desperately trying to cherry pick his way through the report in order to find anything that, in or out of context, might help to absolve that old sweetie, Saddam Hussein — like all his ilk, he’d rather put his trust in the islamofascists than in a Republican (gasp!) administration.

Maybe you should stick to your one-liners, Stevie. When you’re stuck, you can always profess your love for the troops.

I’m struggling to convince myself this is fun anymore

Yup, just like an earlier version of wingnuttery claimed that the USSR and China were pals depsite the USSR keeping 100 divisions on the Chinese border.

GET SOMEONE TO READ THIS TO YOU:

DUELFER REPORT SUMMARY
http://www.cia.gov/cia/reports/iraq_wmd_2004/Comp_Report_Key_Findings.pdf

Saddam wanted to recreate Iraq’s WMD capability—which was essentially destroyed in 1991—after sanctions were removed and Iraq’s economy stabilized, but probably with a different mix of capabilities to that which previously existed.

Iran was the pre-eminent motivator of this policy. All senior level Iraqi officials
considered Iran to be Iraq’s principal enemy in the region. The wish to balance Israel and acquire status and influence in the Arab world were also considerations, but secondary.

ISG uncovered Iraqi plans or designs for three long-range ballistic missiles with ranges from 400 to 1,000 km and for a 1,000-km-range cruise missile, although none of these systems progressed to production and only one reportedly passed the design phase.

Iraq Survey Group (ISG) discovered further evidence of the maturity and significance of the pre-1991 Iraqi Nuclear Program but found that Iraq’s ability to reconstitute a nuclear weapons program progressively decayed after that date.

While a small number of old, abandoned chemical munitions have been discovered, ISG judges that iraq unilaterally destroyed its undeclared chemical weapons stockpile in 1991.

In practical terms, with the destruction of the Al Hakam facility, Iraq abandoned its ambition to obtain advanced BW weapons quickly. ISG found no direct evidence that Iraq, after 1996, had plans for a new BW program or was conducting BW-specific work for military purposes. Indeed, from the mid-1990s, despite evidence of continuing interest in nuclear and chemical weapons, there appears to be a complete absence of discussion or even interest in BW at the Presidential level.

Addendum to the Comprehensive Report

http://www.odci.gov/cia/reports/iraq_wmd_2004/index.html

Based on the evidence available at present, ISG judged that it was unlikely that an official transfer of WMD material from Iraq to Syria took place. However,ISG was unable to rule out unofficial movement of limited WMD-related materials.

They was both Baathists!!!

All that animosity between Assad and Saddam for all those decades was a blind for when the freedom lovers rolled in to wreck the WMD party. And, undeniably they were both Muslim….islamists…(you see where this is heading yet?…..islamofascists. Hurrah, we made it. Praise the lord and pass the tissues. Lap shandies all round.

Stevie hasn’t read the report himself, Ymar, or he’d know how bad it makes him look.

WTF are you taking about?

I expect you to say that you’ve finally made an appointment with a psychiatrist.

What does that have to do with bush?

Pres. Fredo values personal loyalty above competence.
E.g., Harriet Miers, Michael Brown.

Read the Duelfer Report and LEARN.

You’re constant prattling from an alernative universe is no longer amusing.

Morons like this guy don’t have a bigger picture:

We have no idea what kind of ethnic strife might appear in the future, although as I have noted, it has not been the history of Iraq’s past.

PAUL WOLFOWITZ, FEBRUARY 27, 2003*

http://tinyurl.com/exk73

What does that have to do with bush?

So, the feisty, tough little investment banker has to rely on the police to get rid of pesky loud teenagers.

It’s better than going over there in the middle of the night to pick a fight with a bunch of drunken teenagers. Less fun, but sometimes it is wise to avoid too much fun.

All talk, all bluster, all scared, all want someone else to do their dirty work and want someone else to pay for their sweaty little waking terror.

You should write for Hollywood, they need script writers like you.

YMAR: Both Blackfive and Michael Yon, believe they got shipped to Syria

Both are wrong.

What does stevej expect me to say, stevej is wrong? Again, we get the feeling we’re back at Kindergarten again going back and forth about who did it. He did it, no she did it.

You gotta feel sorry for people with that level of competition.

You are insane.

Both are wrong.

Read the Duelfer Report and find out.

MANNERS. I grump when six under 30 types revel on a balcony at three on a Wednesday morning and wake up an entire condominium unit of over 500 people. My friend says I should have just joined the party.

Do what I do — simply call the police. This happen to me from time to time. If they have no respect for you, then return the favor — I keep the number posted on the kitchen door.

So, the feisty, tough little investment banker has to rely on the police to get rid of pesky loud teenagers. And so often that he has the number on his kitchen door.

Heehee, you couldn’t make this up. Advocates nuclear strikes on civilian targets but calls the cops on a regular basis. Classic.

I think this tells us a lot about the collective courage of the neocons. All talk, all bluster, all scared, all want someone else to do their dirty work and want someone else to pay for their sweaty little waking terror.

Post traumatic stress disorder.

There is no limit to what humanity can achieve or how many we can kill. The universe is the limit, parochial Leftists disagree however. Their horizons are a bit limited.

What would history have made of abe lincoln if the south had been murdering each other for years after the end of the civil war and if union troops and remained taking steady losses for years.

See, this is why I don’t like idiots who paint themselves as multicultural experts(They’re in Europe, they travel, dontcha know) and Americans as ignoramus fools. They don’t even have enough brain cells to rub together to realize the crap they are putting out. If they were aware of the low-intensity terrorism going on in the South with the KKK lynching freed slaves so that they don’t vote *gasp* Republican, they wouldn’t make a fool out of themselves trying to claim that after the American Civil War, everything was peaceful and safe in the South.

President Grant sent in National Guards to crush the KKK, and it worked, up until the time appeasement orientated Presidents reversed it, and then the Democrats gained power throughout the South, and that has been sustained until only recently when the South shook off the shackles of Democratic racism and Robert Byrd KKKness.

When Sherman torched Atlanta, and put the fear of God into those plantation owners, their will was broken. America does not have the benefit of having a Sherman destroy Fallujah, Baghdad, and any other Iraqi city that resisted the Coalition and the banning of Baath party loyalists.

The Leftists should get on their knees for supporting the Confederation from European strongholds, they should get on their knees and beg forgiveness for supporting Democratic terrorism and racist policies. But they won’t, just as they won’t beg for forgiveness when they tried to prop up a corrupt dictatorship feeding off of Iraqi children and women, just cause of spite.

well i am willing to agree with you that Bush was probably making up the rationale behind his strategy as he went along and that some of that is just the nature of things. But at what point will the thing be declared a success? or will he just keep changing the rationale. As it stands it looks very scary to me. Increasingly seems like some low level civil war. The daily death rates of iraqi’s has got to be worrying to all concerned. Also at what point will it be delared a failure and the troops withdrawn? Because in the real world there is a limit to the losses we can take. or is there?

What would history have made of abe lincoln if the south had been murdering each other for years after the end of the civil war and if union troops and remained taking steady losses for years. If illegal imprisoned cobatants had been doing their level best to kill themselves while abe sat home and planned his next war?

The only reason you wish to drag the civil war in, or any other war is to cover up the shaky basis on which this one was fought.

so not a bigger picture sunshine….just another little neo-con one

Both Blackfive and Michael Yon, believe they got shipped to Syria during the time we were pocking around in the UN based upon Blair’s “advice”.

Look, it isn’t too much of a stretch. The reason why we haven’t found WMDs is because they are in a country Bush has decided not to blow up. Osama is in Pakistan, and we can easily grab his ass with Spec Ops and JDAMs support, but that would have to mean invading Pakistan and destabilizing ONE HUNDRED twenty million Muslim fanatics… That big war.

Just to put things into perspective. Iraq has 25 something million….. Afghanistan has FREAKING 29,928,987!!! Both Iraq and Afghanistan combined wouldn’t make one dent in Pakistan’s population. Now do you know why Osama is hiding out in the Pakistani mountains and why Bush likes Mushareff? You should, 120+ million is A LOT of pocking suicide bombers.

Still, there is no assurance that Bush would go into Pakistan even with the pop, because obviously Bush has not wiped Syria off the map, and Syria’s a push over.

Nice argument, well laid and persuasive kcom. Too bad only people like me will appreciate it, and not steve j. Steve j doesn’t have the mental patience to come up with complete sentences for god’s sakes, I find it extremely doubtful he can comprehend basic logic, let alone advanced reasoning. For some reason, he has chosen the simple expedient of disconnected argumentation. OH, well, his loss.

That’s very nearly once too many because it doesn’t really address the point I made. No war in the world is or has ever been fought for one reason and one reason only. Just like no space shuttle has ever blown up for one reason and one reason only. It’s a whole train of things that leads to something as complex as either of those events.

As oft-sited as it is, I’ll still bring up the case of the US Civil War because it’s appropriate. Pay attention, because I’m only going to do this once. (Wait a minute, strike that, since it’s incredibly patronizing and pathetic.) Anyway, I think it’s pretty clear that the consensus among historians (note: I am not one) is that Abraham Lincoln went into the Civil War with one overriding goal - to preserve the union. Well, guess what. By the time it was over that was not his only goal and it certainly was not the only achievement of the Civil War.

By the time the fighting was over (and the immediate legislative repercussions of the war were over), slavery had been abolished and many other aspects of American life and the American constitutional system had changed profoundly. I believe I’m right in saying most people alive today believe those changes were much for the better. And I also believe I’m right in saying that there were large numbers of people supporting the Civil War from the very beginning because they believed it would bring an end to slavery, whether that was Abraham Lincoln’s initial intention or not. Life is always more complex than your simple distillation would acknowledge.

Now, as to whether giving the Iraqis the opportunity to speak for themselves was a goal of the Bush administration at the beginning or not (and I would argue that it was a goal), the fact is that some number of people, and I would say not an insignificant number of people, supported the war because they could see the big picture and could see not just the primary purposes of the war, the tactical ones, but also the long-term strategic ones. They knew it would bring change, both predictable and unpredictable, and have consequences beyond merely the WMD question, just as the Civil War brought changes beyond merely the preservation of the Union.

That you can’t see or acknowledge the bigger picture others see, and can’t adjust your thinking to the complexities of real events and the motivations behind them, speaks more about your ability to accurately view the world than it does the people you are criticizing with such a narrow, pedantic, unrealistic view of something as complex as the events we are discussing. Despite the quotes you cited, if the result of the war is that the Iraqi people (and I’m talking about the everyday voters) have a say in their government and their future and are able to provide themselves with a better life than that under Saddam then the war will have accomplished a goal that was the motivation for many people supporting it in the first place. And it won’t just be a lucky coincidence. It will be the result of that support and a logical consequence thereof, just as the Emancipation Proclamation was a logical consequence of on-going political developments and Abraham Lincoln’s evolving political consciousness.

So, to put it plainly, there was not a simple, single reason for the war, there was not a simple, single type of person who supported it, there was not a simple, single expectation of the consequences thereof, and there is not a simple, single criterium on which to judge its success or failure. The war involved many players, positions, and judgments (none of which meshed exactly with each other) and the fact that you can only see an extremely limited subset of them is limiting your ability to even see the arguments others are making. You’re stuck “inside the box”. Think bigger. You can still disagree, that’s your prerogative, but at least look at the whole picture.

The anti-war folks also make much of the fact that Saddam never kicked out the weapons inspectors. The inspectors were recalled by the UN a couple of times because Saddam would not allow the inspectors to inspect. Even the corrupt UN, which we now know parts of which were in criminal collusion with Saddam, wouldn’t willingly participate in such a farce.

Have a look in a mirror, Stevie, and repeat the sentence above.

Duelfer Report, Key Findings:

Saddam Husayn so dominated the Iraqi Regime that its strategic intent was his alone. He wanted to end
sanctions while preserving the capability to reconstitute his weapons of mass destruction (WMD) when
sanctions were lifted.

By 2000-2001, Saddam had managed to mitigate many of the effects of sanctions and undermine their
international support. Iraq was within striking distance of a de facto end to the sanctions regime, both in
terms of oil exports and the trade embargo, by the end of 1999.

And much more in that vein.

Ho, ho, ho!

MANNERS. I grump when six under 30 types revel on a balcony at three on a Wednesday morning and wake up an entire condominium unit of over 500 people. My friend says I should have just joined the party.

Do what I do — simply call the police. This happen to me from time to time. If they have no respect for you, then return the favor — I keep the number posted on the kitchen door.

Hehehehee! YOU haven’t been paying attention. Here’s what happened:

Gulf 1, inspections, sanctions, Operation Desert Fox.

Try reading the Duelfer Report instead of wingnut agit-prop.

How dare you ask your betters questions. You don’t ask the questions, you answer them. And you better not lie again about your answers, either. Only the Enlightened Progressives are allowed to answer questions, don’t step out of line again or we’ll find you in contempt of court.

But why would the administration believe such a thing? One reason would be that Saddam had already used WMD on the Kurds. Another would be that the UN weapons inspectors were prevented access and foiled at every turn by Saddam. Still another was that intelligence estimates by intelligence gatherers in other countries thought Saddam had WMD hidden away.

Steve, given that it is an undisputed fact that Saddam had WMD(because he gassed the Kurds with it), what do you suppose happened to the facilities that produced the nerve agent, the records of its manufacture, the scientists and technicians that produced the gas and the specially modified munitions used to deliver the gas? These are material things and people that all existed. What in the world happened to them, Steve? Did they just disappear – poof! – into a black hole?

MANNERS. I grump when six under 30 types revel on a balcony at three on a Wednesday morning and wake up an entire condominium unit of over 500 people. My friend says I should have just joined the party. But I remain incredulous that most people don’t send thank you notes, RSVP, or bring flowers or wine to a party. Most people dump friendships as easily as losing interest in a sitcom. Most people almost find it demeaning to hold open a door for someone or feel their personal space is invaded if some dares smile or talk to someone in an elevator. Is it just me or are we interrupting each other more? Putting each other on hold at the hint of another call coming in? Do you read your e-mail while someone is talking to you? If you don’t want to respond to someone, you don’t, right? You increasingly don’t care what another person thinks about you, do you? Do you say things that hurt others and you really don’t care? What happened to the promise?

CELL PHONES. If you’re in a public place, don’t use your cell phone. Period. Not while standing in line or on line, not while sitting in front of a computer at an Internet cafe, not while waiting to board a plane, not while sitting in a plane, not anywhere near a train unless you are in a crowded car where they cram all of you together in one room to talk on your cell phone, not while waiting for your gynecologist, not while waiting for a movie to begin, and certainly not while waiting for a friend in a restaurant. It is rude. We can hear you. Put the phone DOWN. Didn’t you hear? Congress just passed a law that you are allowed to use your cell phone only when in a grocery store, while parked or driving with a hands-free device, or walking down the street. Oh, that’s right. You missed that. You were too busy talking on your cell phone to read a newspaper.

CULTURE. We worship youth and ignore the wisdom of our elders. We are drawn to faux reality shows to learn how others act in completely unreal situations. We would never see someone over 30 on American Idol because anyone over 30 has no talent left, right? We think Oprah is a new religion and I have a lot of respect for Oprah but she’s just what most of us were like 30 years ago - caring, polite, warm, and wanting to help others.

YOUNG WHITE MALES. Why are they still living with their parents well into their 20s and 30s? Do they care that GenY women are buying homes and adopting children in droves? Their college graduation rates have plummeted. They are being surpassed by girls not only in terms of college enrollment but also in academic performance. And yet they continue to wander listlessly with a straw stuck in their mouth and Razr cell phone in one ear and an iPod in another as they head toward home to plop in front of a violent video game or watch some vapid “reality” show.

YOUNG WHITE FEMALES. Put some clothes on.

VIOLENCE. Do you remember less violent, less corrupt times? Do you think there is a connection between the violence we see and the violence that is committed? I sure do. When are we going to step up and demand that the media stop producing television, movies, and music that is so very violent, and most of it directed at women? I’ve stopped reading articles about the latest person who was found murdered or dismembered. Of course it is tragic but it is not news. It is gruesome and should not be “reported” outside of a local community. Because the more murder and mayhem that is reported as “news”, the more we become accustomed to the violence, the more “normal” it becomes.

GENOCIDE. I grump when our complete lack of interest in genocidal wars allows governments around the world to abuse their people under the guise of sovereign rights, and there is nothing the United Nations can or will do top stop it from happening.

ECONOMY. Our savings rate is the lowest ever since the year before the Great Depression. Gas prices hit an all-time high a few weeks back and yet we have the technology to make alternative fuels - just as we have the technology to make runless nylons and chipless nail polish but what’s the incentive? There is genuine concern about how we are going to pay for the retirement of millions of baby boomers when the Social Security accounts don’t have enough in them. And we had a record budget surplus in 2000, and we are now facing an annual deficit of $368 billion this year and a 10-year projected deficit on $1.35 trillion.

LIBERTIES. I’m grumpy that my e-mails are being read at work and home. I’m grumpy that a stranger could have listened to any number of my phone conversations. I’m grumpy that some low level clerk in the alumni office of where I went to any number of colleges is selling my social security number, mother’s maiden name, and my date of birth. I’m grumpy that three times last year someone tried to steal my identity. I’m grumpy that some cyber-thief in Russia can quietly go into my bank account and take a few hundred bucks without my realizing it.

POLITICS. I’m grumpy that you never hear about how computer-based elections are stolen because techno-wizards go into a database on election night to silent and anonymously change a few votes in a few hotly contested counties to declare the winner of their choice. Not our choice. I’m grumpy that it has been proven beyond any reasonable doubt that the 2000 and 2004 Presidential elections, and yet the media won’t touch this story with gloves and a gas mask because it stinks and our very democracy is at stake on this one. Best not to think about it.

LEADERSHIP. And I’m grumpy that the Democrats haven’t a clue about how to do anything about it, and I am fascinated how the Republicans and religious right will continue to dominate politics until this country is brought to its knees. And I’m grumpy that I’d love to step up but I didn’t go to an Ivy League school, don’t keep company at the right clubs, and God forbid that I have an opinion.

THIRD PARTY. It is appalling that we’re all sick of the Democrats and Republicans but not one of us has the courage, creativity, and conviction to start a viable third party. Someone with courage, creativity, conviction, and about ten thousand bucks could start a third party. With the Internet, blogs, social networks, Podcasts, SMS, RSS, and AdWords, it wouldn’t be difficult to up-end the two-party system. But oh. That’s right. We’re too busy watching American Idol and talking on our cell phones at Starbucks to give a hoot about this.

RELIGION. Speaking of God, I am grumpy that we have become so intolerant of someone’s particular brand of religion. I call them “brands” because, really, all religions teach the basic tenets of good behavior. Where are the religious leaders to help solve these problems? And who in their right mind would produce a movie that leads unknowing masses to believe that Mary and Jesus were more than Son and Mother? People are going to start believing the fiction they read and see because the DaVinci Code is just too close to promoting it as fact.

GAY RIGHTS. Am I the only one of the planet who believes that being gay is as genetically-based as being male or female? I believe every day babies are born heterosexual, bi-sexual, or gay. Simple as that for me. So can we please conduct some sound scientific research into this so that we can allow people to live in peace and love, no matter their genetic makeup?

HEALTH. Cancer rates at all age levels are the highest ever. Why? The food we eat, the air we breathe, and the junk we drink. One in three people will get cancer because we are drinking chemical-laden sodas, water, and coffee; eating anti-biotic laden chickens and cows; and do we even LOOK at the ingredient list of most of the things we eat? It is so sad but eating a strawberry is like eating a dollop of Draino. Don’t do it, no matter how delicious it looks. All organic all the time.

ENVIRONMENT. Tsunamis, earthquakes, massive rainfall, hurricanes, more tornadoes than usual, warmer winters, cooler summers, huge spikes in skin cancer. Hey hey! Global warming’s here to stay!

COMMUNICATION. It is increasingly impossible to communicate with immigrants. I don’t sense many seeming to care that they can’t communicate with us, and I don’t sense native-born Americans seeming to care to communicate with them. What is wrong with requiring that English and Spanish be required languages in school? When my brother-in-law speaks English with a heavy accent and is called a French Pig and should return to his home country, we have some serious problems.

And our biggest problem is that not enough of us care to demand that our leaders address these issues. Oh now here’s something really important - cappucino or latte, anyone?

That’s not snarky, that’s narcissistic delusion.

Pay attention because I’m only going to do this once!

“We know for a fact there are weapons there.” - Ari Fleischer, Jan. 9, 2003
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/01/20030109-8.html

THE PRESIDENT: Our mission is clear in Iraq. Should we have to go in, our mission is very clear: disarmament.
3/6/03
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/03/20030306-8.html

“But make no mistake — as I said earlier — we have high confidence that they have weapons of mass destruction. That is what this war was about and it is about.” -Ari Fleischer Press Briefing 4/10/03
http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/04/20030410-6.html

“You really think that your blogs are involved in a war? Does it somehow assuage your guilt that young men and women are actually dying while you’re writing a blog to think that you’re somehow making a contribution to the war on terror?”

….To which the snarky response would be that someone has to stay home to engage the traitors like him on the home front, when they try to stab the American military in the back.

This response is not precisely true, of course - a proper response must start with the concept of ‘citizenship,’ which our friend Pope Ratzo evidently does not understand. But neither is it wholly false.

Countless times people come up to me and say China’s military is equal to becoming equal to the US, cause they got millions of soldiers.

Ahem…I would say that’s what the elections are for. The problem in Iraq is that no one has asked the people what they wanted for the last 50 years. Saddam certainly didn’t. He told them what they wanted. For the left or the right or anyone else to say they know what the Iraqi people want is crap.

The difference between East Germany and West Germany after World War II is that we implemented a system in West Germany where the German people got to have a say in what kind of country they lived in and the Soviet Union implemented a system in East Germany where they did not. What we did was morally right, practical, and highly effective and any comparison between West Germany and East Germany made that crystal clear. It was the difference between NATO (a voluntary organization of likeminded people) and the Warsaw Pact (a forced collective created by duress).

Well, what I want to see is a system where the people in Iraq have a say. I want them to let us know what they think. I don’t want some leftist American or European telling me what is good for them or what they believe. I want to hear it from them. Dennis Prager often says he prefers clarity to agreement. That’s the way I see the situation in Iraq. After 50 years of Baathism, I would like some clarity. I want to know what the people of Iraq really, really think - whether it agrees with what I think or not, because then we’ll know where we stand, they’ll know where they stand, and the world will know where they stand.

But to find any of that out there has to be a way to gauge the will and the priorities of the Iraqi people. And that’s what the last three years has been about. It’s been about setting up a system where they get to say what they think. None of us in favor of giving them that opportunity ever thought they would be in 100% agreement with us. That’s not the point. The point is, they get to speak for themselves for the first time in 50 years. And those of us who supported their right and their opportunity to do so owe an apology to no one. The ones who should apologize are the ones who would deny them that opportunity while practicing the very same right in their own countries every day.

Excreted from the mouths of lefties.

“Logistics” is not the same as “Mutually Assured Destruction”. Sorry, I’m not jumping in the middle of this discussion — but that seemed a bit obvious.

Let’s not manufacture fatigue.

You are just a never ending source of fiction.

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/china/icbm/index.html

Just to clarify something to SB about what I mean when I say that China is not a threat to the US. I mean China is not interested nor do they have the means, to destroy the US homeland territory or cause political/culture instability in the US.

It does not mean I don’t think China’s espionage of American technolgoy or anything else, won’t kill Americans. But there is always a difference between those who die in the front lines and the safety of the country itself.

There’s a lot higher chance for war when people have matching technologies and weaponry, but there would be if one side was outclassed by the other. But any war that would occur, would focus and disrupt China’s surrounding terrain. China does not have the logistics to reach their hand across the globe to the US, unlike the US that is.

Canadians, combination of Britons and French without the economic immigrant problems

Where do you get this crap?

You destroyed yourself.

1. I am as stupid as you all on here keep telling me….

or 2. yrmdwnkr is a violent little retard

The Left has nothing on me in terms of temper, rage, or righteous anger. They don’t know what berzerker rage really is. It truly is an insanity that eats away at your soul, and unless you break something or hurt someone, it just keeps eating and eating.

that will be me again huh?

neo….nice friends out their in the right wing. Do you ever condemn this stuff or just save all that passionless dry ire for democrats?