Comments on: The telephone wars: waiting for Godot? http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/ Fri, 29 Aug 2008 07:45:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: cjd http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25547 cjd Fri, 22 Sep 2006 01:53:04 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25547 I hate Verizon. Just thought I'd share, but I'm with you, neo. I hate Verizon. Just thought I’d share, but I’m with you, neo.

]]> By: Josh G. http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25548 Josh G. Fri, 22 Sep 2006 01:56:49 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25548 Much sympathy. I went through nearly the same thing last year. All three jacks in my house weren't working. Verizon told me to do the same test you mention, which confirmed it was a problem with the outside line, thus it was their responsibility and they would come fix it for free. After they came and "fixed" it, only one of my inside jacks worked. The other two still had the same problem. I told Verizon this and they told me that since one of my jacks worked, it was now an inside line problem, and I would have to pay to get it fixed. Grrr. Grrr. Grrr. Much sympathy. I went through nearly the same thing last year. All three jacks in my house weren’t working. Verizon told me to do the same test you mention, which confirmed it was a problem with the outside line, thus it was their responsibility and they would come fix it for free. After they came and “fixed” it, only one of my inside jacks worked. The other two still had the same problem. I told Verizon this and they told me that since one of my jacks worked, it was now an inside line problem, and I would have to pay to get it fixed. Grrr. Grrr. Grrr.

]]> By: Vanderleun http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25549 Vanderleun Fri, 22 Sep 2006 03:15:32 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25549 As a friend of mine once said, "This is the sort of day that makes you want to unwind with a small shooting spree." As a friend of mine once said, “This is the sort of day that makes you want to unwind with a small shooting spree.”

]]> By: dicentra http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25550 dicentra Fri, 22 Sep 2006 03:27:30 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25550 Not to spoil the ending or anything, but Godot never gets there. Pointless play, anyway. Not to spoil the ending or anything, but Godot never gets there. Pointless play, anyway.

]]> By: neo-neocon http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25551 neo-neocon Fri, 22 Sep 2006 03:41:25 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25551 dicentra: So far, neither have the repairmen (sorry to be so PC, but where I live they're always men). And they only have 21 minutes left to go before they have officially stood me up. On the other hand, my cell phone charger came in today's mail. So there is hope. dicentra: So far, neither have the repairmen (sorry to be so PC, but where I live they’re always men). And they only have 21 minutes left to go before they have officially stood me up.

On the other hand, my cell phone charger came in today’s mail. So there is hope.

]]> By: Good Ole Charlie http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25552 Good Ole Charlie Fri, 22 Sep 2006 03:50:28 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25552 Neo: I went from Verizon - curses be upon their heads - to completely wireless via Cingular. Costs a bit more, but I can use my homephone number anywhere in the USA and other countries. Don't have to worry about forwarded calls any more... Give it a try... Neo:

I went from Verizon - curses be upon their heads - to completely wireless via Cingular.

Costs a bit more, but I can use my homephone number anywhere in the USA and other countries. Don’t have to worry about forwarded calls any more…

Give it a try…

]]> By: neo-neocon http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25553 neo-neocon Fri, 22 Sep 2006 04:36:09 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25553 I meant "so un-PC" in above comment. I meant “so un-PC” in above comment.

]]> By: Nyomythus http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25554 Nyomythus Fri, 22 Sep 2006 05:21:53 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25554 The new pic looks good -- it's a tad dark though. The new pic looks good — it’s a tad dark though.

]]> By: EvilDave http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25555 EvilDave Fri, 22 Sep 2006 05:51:59 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25555 So what's up with the new picture? So what’s up with the new picture?

]]> By: neo-neocon http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25556 neo-neocon Fri, 22 Sep 2006 05:57:28 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25556 See <a href="http://neo-neocon.blogspot.com/2006/09/neo-neo-neo.html">new post</a> for photo explanation. On my computer it's not dark. But if the consensus is that it's too dark, I can always put up a lighter version. Everyone's computer seems to have a different color setting, I've noticed. See new post for photo explanation.

On my computer it’s not dark. But if the consensus is that it’s too dark, I can always put up a lighter version. Everyone’s computer seems to have a different color setting, I’ve noticed.

]]> By: Vanderleun http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25557 Vanderleun Fri, 22 Sep 2006 06:35:03 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25557 You're just a hard core people pleaser. I say, let them buy new monitors. You’re just a hard core people pleaser. I say, let them buy new monitors.

]]> By: david foster http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25558 david foster Fri, 22 Sep 2006 08:10:28 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25558 On those dark days when I am forced to call Verizon and talk to a human, s(he) starts the conversation with "How can I provide you with excellent service today?" On those dark days when I am forced to call Verizon and talk to a human, s(he) starts the conversation with “How can I provide you with excellent service today?”

]]> By: benning http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25559 benning Fri, 22 Sep 2006 08:15:17 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25559 You do have some juicy horror stories, neo! You do have some juicy horror stories, neo!

]]> By: strcpy http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25560 strcpy Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:53:35 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25560 An important thing: Make sure you resecure that box - really. It is an ouside jack with no security other than your lock that is *your* phone line. Were I to come over to your house, open it, plug my phone in, and make 10,000 dollars of 900 numbers it's your bill and little you can do about it. You do not want it where anyone can just walk up and plug a phone in - that is the reason it was so hard to reach. However simple or hard it was for you to get too it is the same for anyone else. Nearly all houses built in the last few decades have those boxes and all the phones phreakers know about them. If you know they are there you can see them all over the place, I cringe when I see them at eye level (or below) and simply cliped, not locked with a pad lock. An important thing:

Make sure you resecure that box - really. It is an ouside jack with no security other than your lock that is *your* phone line. Were I to come over to your house, open it, plug my phone in, and make 10,000 dollars of 900 numbers it’s your bill and little you can do about it. You do not want it where anyone can just walk up and plug a phone in - that is the reason it was so hard to reach.

However simple or hard it was for you to get too it is the same for anyone else. Nearly all houses built in the last few decades have those boxes and all the phones phreakers know about them. If you know they are there you can see them all over the place, I cringe when I see them at eye level (or below) and simply cliped, not locked with a pad lock.

]]> By: ginger http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25561 ginger Fri, 22 Sep 2006 18:38:17 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25561 Add me to the Verizon detractors. Best service I've had was T-Mobile....sadly they have no service here so I had to switch. My land line is through my cable company though, not one of the phone companies, and I've had actually quite terrific service from them. As in they are here when they say they will be every time thus far. Like the new pic neo....you look much younger with the darker hair! Add me too to the group whose monitor makes it appear rather dark. Sheesh Stropy....never thought of that and my box is both unlocked and at waist level!! Add to shopping list a smallish pad lock. Then again, here in teeny, teeny town Tennessee I'm unlikely to have a problem. :) Add me to the Verizon detractors. Best service I’ve had was T-Mobile….sadly they have no service here so I had to switch. My land line is through my cable company though, not one of the phone companies, and I’ve had actually quite terrific service from them. As in they are here when they say they will be every time thus far. Like the new pic neo….you look much younger with the darker hair! Add me too to the group whose monitor makes it appear rather dark. Sheesh Stropy….never thought of that and my box is both unlocked and at waist level!! Add to shopping list a smallish pad lock. Then again, here in teeny, teeny town Tennessee I’m unlikely to have a problem. :)

]]> By: strcpy http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25562 strcpy Sat, 23 Sep 2006 05:38:36 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2006/09/21/telephone-wars-waiting-for-godot/#comment-25562 I live in Knoxville Tn, I have quite a few friends in small Tennessee towns that also know of this (Grey, Kingsport, Rutledge, etc). As far as I know none of us ever used the knowledge, but that is more because of how I meet and choose my friends than all small town hackers have a sense of moral responsibility. Especially with the internet now, knowledge crimes like this have nothing to do with the size of the town you live in. Especially given that most of these crimes are done by teenagers not really thinking about the consequences of thier actions ("hey look! mom/dad will not let me do this from our house - I can go next door and do it this way and no one will ever know!"), not by a focused criminal. I live in Knoxville Tn, I have quite a few friends in small Tennessee towns that also know of this (Grey, Kingsport, Rutledge, etc). As far as I know none of us ever used the knowledge, but that is more because of how I meet and choose my friends than all small town hackers have a sense of moral responsibility.

Especially with the internet now, knowledge crimes like this have nothing to do with the size of the town you live in. Especially given that most of these crimes are done by teenagers not really thinking about the consequences of thier actions (”hey look! mom/dad will not let me do this from our house - I can go next door and do it this way and no one will ever know!”), not by a focused criminal.

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