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What does surprise me is how _eager_ and non-skeptical the Western press are in their coverage of this. They’re perfectly content to report “See? There were rabbis there! Amahdinejad isn’t a genocidal fanatic and Iran’s nuclear program isn’t a threat to anybody!”

These are the same journalists who are so skeptical when, for instance, a Pentagon official talks about soldiers building a school. (”But what were they _really_ doing?”)

The only conclusion is that the press are being consciously dishonest. They want Iran to develop nuclear capability. They apparently want to see Israel’s Jews flee their land or killed in a new Holocaust.

Conservatives keep asking “what will it take to open their eyes?” I think that’s the wrong question. Their eyes _are_ open. It’s we who have to open _our_ eyes to the extent and depth of the evil that modern “liberal” thinking represents. They want Israel rendered Judenfrei. They want America beaten and impoverished. They are working actively to bring these things about.

I agree with how happy the media is to find these people (not limited to this instance). It also appalls me the number of scientists who seek to prove and idea, not gather evidence and see where it goes - they should know better. In all the time I spent in research/academics I knew of maybe 5 or six people who understood this.

It seems much of our society is going this way. I, personally, call it the “Throw a dog a bone” syndrome. Too many want to believe something so much that all they need is that little bone, it’s enough. At some point reality intrudes - 9/11 was one instance of that (and now we are rapidly moving back into the pre-9/11 mindset, all we need is a few more bones).

Always with the best of motives, of course.

Sergey, I don’t know what Weltanschauung means. Is it fun? Where does one find it? Is there more of it in Russia than the USA?

But seriously folks, one group of Jews I’ve never heard blubber the stupidity “Why do they hate us?” are the Holocaust survivors, especially the veterans.

Removing a racist regime in Israel isn’t in any way equal to “killing all the jews” neo. You are just propagandizing again. And you know it.

This is a historical fact that zionists and Israel apologists tend to gloss over and revise, as you are doing here.

You are less honest even than the neonazis you make a show of despising.

And why aren’t you in Gaza at this very moment, fighting with your brothers in Hamas, and Al-Fatah? Okay, okay, they’re fighting each other at the moment. But you don’t want to be a chickenhawk, do you?

“You (neocons) wish to remove Muslims from all real power by military force…”

There’s no proof that “Neocons” (the most overly used scare word since “communist”, as well as being the most misused, misunderstood and misapplied attempt at insult) want to “remove Muslims from all real power by military force”. You certainly haven’t presented any. And if “neocons” (by that, I presume you mean “Republicans in government” and internet pundits, although again, that’s a misapplication) want to remove Muslims from all real power, why have the “neocons” who’re actually in the government replaced the only two Muslim who really had power (Bin Laden, who influenced Afghanistan, and Saddam Hussein, who actually led Iraq) with other Muslims?

And why are the ones the government are going after - insurgents in both Iraq and Afghanistan - not in any positions of power to begin with? Zarqawi never had any real power outside of terrorizing people. And the Taliban remnants are fighting to gain power, not protect it from the Americans.

On top of that, you see anyone taking any action against, say, the Saudi Royal Family? Or the Indonesian government?

You’re statement - it’s too devoid of content to be called an “argument” - is baseless.

“…yet you are intolerant of those who reject the legitimacy of a genocidal ethnocreocratic regime in an ethnically cleansed are of traditional arab lands.”

Might this be the Israel scare? Well, now, in 2003 the Arab population was around 20% (the famous figure cited by Netanyahu) and has been growing since. Given the various web estimations of roughly 70% of those Arabs being Muslim (as opposed to Christian or Druze), well… true, they’re a minority. But hardly “ethnically cleansed”, don’t you think? Especially since that population is on the rise?

Again, a content-free statement by the Guy.

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This is a historical fact that zionists and Israel apologists tend to gloss over and revise, as you are doing here.”

Historical fact? Mind providing references? The few I found on just internet searches (not real research, I admit, definitely short of real library-based research… just initial looks) all ended up on pages containing the canards “establishment historians” or ” “Official Story” ” (with scare quotes), and many containing links to other intellectually uplifting sites <⁄sarcasm> like 911 Conspiracy fantasies. True, I’m not versed in the “historical facts” you purport to know (yet don’t cite), but as you generally don’t find diamonds in sewers, you also tend not to find rigorously fact-based, truly analylzed academic research on conspiracy-obsessed sites. Possibly you have some accepted, sober, peer-reviewed academic sources for your claims. If so, please provide so as to debunk my conclusion that such claims are 1. Overhyped, and 2. In cases where evidence is actually presented, built on a narrative where such evidence is stripped of it’s context and of overexaggerated importance to begin with. Otherwise, the one point that you may indeed have more knowledge of that I do I will consider to be no more than the rest of your post i.e. overly hyperventilated, poorly argued, unsupported drivel, and based more on worldview fantasies than hard reality.

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Yes, entering “debates” with delusional 911 conspiracy fantasists has left me with little patience for malformed arguments and conscious denial of reality. Yet, it’s interesting to see how much of the worldviews, theories, and argumentive styles 911 conspiracy fantasists and Israeli obsessed fantasists like “Just A” here have in common. Such as: Serial postings of rants as evidence, arguments built on assertions, anger, and nothing else, and posts devoid of fact, content, analysis… or even critical thought… Neo, perhaps I’ll try to have a discussion with you sometime (here, or offline) about the psychology of such obsessively angry individuals. With your background in psychology, you might have some insights that I’d otherwise miss.

Or like people voting Democratic.