Comments on: Profiles in the Virginia Tech massacre: the shooter http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/ Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:04:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: Jim Bender http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33784 Jim Bender Tue, 17 Apr 2007 19:49:29 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33784 Paul, at Wizbang! thinks that the writing might have been intended to be Ismail Yk, not Ismail Ax, and the authorities just misread it. Not knowing anything about Ismail Yk, who Paul says is a Turkish singer with a YouTube video that has had many looks, I don't know how plausible it is. It makes more sense, though, then Ismail Ax. Paul, at Wizbang! thinks that the writing might have been intended to be Ismail Yk, not Ismail Ax, and the authorities just misread it. Not knowing anything about Ismail Yk, who Paul says is a Turkish singer with a YouTube video that has had many looks, I don’t know how plausible it is. It makes more sense, though, then Ismail Ax.

]]> By: LabRat http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33786 LabRat Tue, 17 Apr 2007 20:33:10 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33786 I've also seen it proposed that it's supposed to be Ishmael Ax. There's a character called Ishmael in a James Fenimore Cooper novel called "Prairie" who goes forth into the wildnerness with nothing but an ax and a gun, the ax being a symbol for the creation and destruction. Well, he WAS an English major... And for some reason it pleases me that people are arguing about what his big important signoff phrase was (it's also in the note he left) because he had shitty handwriting. I’ve also seen it proposed that it’s supposed to be Ishmael Ax. There’s a character called Ishmael in a James Fenimore Cooper novel called “Prairie” who goes forth into the wildnerness with nothing but an ax and a gun, the ax being a symbol for the creation and destruction.

Well, he WAS an English major…

And for some reason it pleases me that people are arguing about what his big important signoff phrase was (it’s also in the note he left) because he had shitty handwriting.

]]> By: amr http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33792 amr Tue, 17 Apr 2007 21:54:15 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33792 This tragedy could have been avoided had he been arrested and expelled from VT for his reported starting a dorm fire and the stalking of girls. Even if released on bailed, he could have been on a watch list at the campus. As this rampage and Columbia University’s mini-riot shows, disrespect for the rule of law and societal civility have few, if any, consequences until the violence is too great to ignore. When will Americans take to heart what was proven to work in NYC; the Broken Windows Theory of stopping crime and bad behavior works. This tragedy could have been avoided had he been arrested and expelled from VT for his reported starting a dorm fire and the stalking of girls. Even if released on bailed, he could have been on a watch list at the campus. As this rampage and Columbia University’s mini-riot shows, disrespect for the rule of law and societal civility have few, if any, consequences until the violence is too great to ignore. When will Americans take to heart what was proven to work in NYC; the Broken Windows Theory of stopping crime and bad behavior works.

]]> By: Still-A-Neocon http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33793 Still-A-Neocon Tue, 17 Apr 2007 22:14:00 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33793 Several people commenting on the shooter on popular blogs (hotair) are blaming anti-depressants. Your thoughts on this would be nice. I think too many confuse correlation with causation. The anti-depressants indicate the kid had recognized problems. A kid with problems was THE problem. The anti-depressants may have prevented this from happening earlier---who knows? It is a leap to say the drugs themselves are to blame---and not provable or disprovable. Several people commenting on the shooter on popular blogs (hotair) are blaming anti-depressants. Your thoughts on this would be nice. I think too many confuse correlation with causation. The anti-depressants indicate the kid had recognized problems. A kid with problems was THE problem. The anti-depressants may have prevented this from happening earlier—who knows? It is a leap to say the drugs themselves are to blame—and not provable or disprovable.

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33804 Ymarsakar Wed, 18 Apr 2007 03:41:26 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33804 Anti-Depressants would probably cause a psychotic person from not feeling sorry enough for himself. Thereby clearing his mind to think up of what to proactively do, instead of self-pity. Despair tends to sap will. When anti-depressants make people feel better, it can also promote them into planning murder sprees if "feeling better" for a psychotic means killing more people. Anti-Depressants would probably cause a psychotic person from not feeling sorry enough for himself. Thereby clearing his mind to think up of what to proactively do, instead of self-pity.

Despair tends to sap will. When anti-depressants make people feel better, it can also promote them into planning murder sprees if “feeling better” for a psychotic means killing more people.

]]> By: Robert Lindsay http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33811 Robert Lindsay Wed, 18 Apr 2007 05:44:55 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33811 <strong>Chinese Immigrant Student Identified as Virginia Tech Shooter...</strong> Neo-Neocon says the therapist had a duty to commit him if she thought he was violent. The problem is so many people show up in therapy as potentially violent and it is hard to figure out who to commit and who not to commit. Furthermore, some nonviolent... Chinese Immigrant Student Identified as Virginia Tech Shooter…

Neo-Neocon says the therapist had a duty to commit him if she thought he was violent. The problem is so many people show up in therapy as potentially violent and it is hard to figure out who to commit and who not to commit. Furthermore, some nonviolent…

]]> By: sergey http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33814 sergey Wed, 18 Apr 2007 10:37:18 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33814 Are antidepressants prescribed drags in US? Are doctors that prescribe them obliged to report to autorities about troubled patients? Do arms sellers required to ask some sertificate on mental health of theirs customers? If the answer to any of these question is "No", you are in serious trouble. Are antidepressants prescribed drags in US? Are doctors that prescribe them obliged to report to autorities about troubled patients? Do arms sellers required to ask some sertificate on mental health of theirs customers? If the answer to any of these question is “No”, you are in serious trouble.

]]> By: expat http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33815 expat Wed, 18 Apr 2007 12:26:30 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33815 I've listened to the roomates and one teacher's description of this guy. It is obviously hard to predict how he would act, but shouldn't such bizarre behaviour at least warrant a mandatory committment and thorough psychiatric evaluation, especially since the police had been called for a stalking episode? I’ve listened to the roomates and one teacher’s description of this guy. It is obviously hard to predict how he would act, but shouldn’t such bizarre behaviour at least warrant a mandatory committment and thorough psychiatric evaluation, especially since the police had been called for a stalking episode?

]]> By: james wilson http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33818 james wilson Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:41:12 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33818 1) Since one in several million men will engage in this behavior, we may confidently conclude no one is going to predict the next one, so let us not encourage an industry in it. 2) If we cared to compare 10,000 people prescribed anti-depressants, both on and off their meds, to a control population of the first 10,000 people in the phone book, it should be obvious the behaviors will be markedly different. To then blame anti-depressants becomes cretinous. The only question is how much their undesired behaviors are lessened on the anti-depressants. 3) What I would like to know is the size of his penis as it relates to other mass killers and to the general populations. I'm betting $2.50 that there is a marker there. We might have to put a few million guys on the small penis watch list, but what the hell, if it saves the life of one child.... 1) Since one in several million men will engage in this behavior, we may confidently conclude no one is going to predict the next one, so let us not encourage an industry in it.
2) If we cared to compare 10,000 people prescribed anti-depressants, both on and off their meds, to a control population of the first 10,000 people in the phone book, it should be obvious the behaviors will be markedly different. To then blame anti-depressants becomes cretinous. The only question is how much their undesired behaviors are lessened on the anti-depressants.
3) What I would like to know is the size of his penis as it relates to other mass killers and to the general populations. I’m betting $2.50 that there is a marker there. We might have to put a few million guys on the small penis watch list, but what the hell, if it saves the life of one child….

]]> By: Sam L. http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33841 Sam L. Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:50:18 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33841 tcsdaily.comSee: http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=041807B Ismail was the son of Abraham, and according to Mohammed, was the one to be sacrificed (using an ax, rather than Isaac with a knife). (I didn't know this, either.) tcsdaily.comSee: http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=041807B

Ismail was the son of Abraham, and according to Mohammed, was the one to be sacrificed (using an ax, rather than Isaac with a knife).

(I didn’t know this, either.)

]]> By: Will M. http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33904 Will M. Thu, 19 Apr 2007 20:59:43 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33904 The Symbolic Ishmael Ax I also looked for its meaning and stumbled upon something remarkeble, i think. Ishmael Ax consists of 9 digits in total I1s2h3m4a5e6l7A8x9 Now look at the alphabet and understand that every letter is fixed to a number. so we would get this result : 9i 19s 8h 13m 1a 5e 12l 1a 24x now add all numbers from the alphabet and what do you get ? 9 19 8 13 1 5 12 1 24 = 92 [9+2]=11 9 1 9 8 1 3 1 5 1 2 1 2 4 = 47 [4+7]= 11 strangely enough ive discovered that IshmaelAx containts 9 digits and adding all letter-numbers together we get the sum of the name IshmaelAx : 911 This is weird ! How do you explain this ? The Symbolic Ishmael Ax

I also looked for its meaning and stumbled upon something remarkeble, i think.

Ishmael Ax consists of 9 digits in total
I1s2h3m4a5e6l7A8×9

Now look at the alphabet and understand that every letter is fixed to a number. so we would get
this result : 9i 19s 8h 13m 1a 5e 12l 1a 24x

now add all numbers from the alphabet and what do you get ?
9 19 8 13 1 5 12 1 24 = 92 [9+2]=11
9 1 9 8 1 3 1 5 1 2 1 2 4 = 47 [4+7]= 11

strangely enough ive discovered that IshmaelAx
containts 9 digits and adding all letter-numbers together we get the sum of the name IshmaelAx :
911

This is weird !

How do you explain this ?

]]> By: Anon Y. Mous http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33905 Anon Y. Mous Thu, 19 Apr 2007 21:11:02 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33905 Will M., your post is a work of art. Will M., your post is a work of art.

]]> By: Will M. http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33906 Will M. Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:01:20 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33906 i worked on it some more, and eventhough i`m not sure about all the details concerning the spelling, i gave it a try. Thank you Anon Y. Mous ! --- my conclusion The Meaning of : A. Ishmael / Ishmael Ax / Ismail Ax I also looked for a possible meaning and stumbled upon something remarkable, i think. __________________________________________ A. Ishmael = [[ A1I2s3h4m5a6e7l8 ]] 8 digits Now look at the alphabet and understand that every letter is fixed to a number. so we would get this result : 1a 9i 19s 8h 13m 1a 5e 12l now add all numbers from the alphabet and what do you get ? 1+9+19+8+13+1+5+12 = 68 [6+8] = 14 [1+4]= 5 not clear what this outcome could mean. __________________________________________ Ishmael Ax = [[ I1s2h3m4a5e6l7A8x9 ]] 9 digits Now look at the alphabet and understand that every letter is fixed to a number. so we would get this result : 9i 19s 8h 13m 1a 5e 12l 1a 24x now add all numbers from the alphabet and what do you get ? 9+1+9+8+1+3+1+5+1+2+1+2+4 = 47 [4+7]= 11 this name containts 9 digits and adding all letter-numbers together we get the sum of the name IshmaelAx : 911 ___________________________________________ Ismail Ax = [[ I1s2m3a4i5l6a7x8 ]] = 8 digits Alternatively, if we look at the suggested alternative writing on his arm being: Ismail Ax , we would get the following. 9i 19s 13m 1a 9i 12l 1a 24x 9+19+13+1+9+12+1+24= 88 [8+8] = 16 the massacre occured on 16th April and the number 88 was drawn on a peace of paper he added into the envelop he had send to NBC News. _____________________________________________________ Now if we take al the results : A. Ishmael = 5 Ishmael Ax = 11 Ismail Ax = 16 5+11+16 = 32 ( Thirty-two people shot by Cho at Virginia Tech ) _____________________________________________________ This is weird ! Eventhough i`m still not sure what it would mean exactelly, it almost looks like an encrypted message, or something like that. How do you explain this ? i worked on it some more, and eventhough i`m not sure about all the details concerning the spelling, i gave it a try.

Thank you Anon Y. Mous !

— my conclusion

The Meaning of :
A. Ishmael / Ishmael Ax / Ismail Ax

I also looked for a possible meaning
and stumbled upon something remarkable, i think.
__________________________________________
A. Ishmael = [[ A1I2s3h4m5a6e7l8 ]] 8 digits
Now look at the alphabet and understand that every letter
is fixed to a number. so we would get
this result : 1a 9i 19s 8h 13m 1a 5e 12l

now add all numbers from the alphabet and what do you get ?
1+9+19+8+13+1+5+12 = 68 [6+8] = 14 [1+4]= 5
not clear what this outcome could mean.
__________________________________________
Ishmael Ax = [[ I1s2h3m4a5e6l7A8×9 ]] 9 digits

Now look at the alphabet and understand that every letter
is fixed to a number. so we would get
this result : 9i 19s 8h 13m 1a 5e 12l 1a 24x

now add all numbers from the alphabet and what do you get ?
9+1+9+8+1+3+1+5+1+2+1+2+4 = 47 [4+7]= 11

this name containts 9 digits and adding all letter-numbers
together we get the sum of the name IshmaelAx : 911

___________________________________________
Ismail Ax = [[ I1s2m3a4i5l6a7×8 ]] = 8 digits

Alternatively, if we look at the suggested alternative writing on his arm
being: Ismail Ax , we would get the following.

9i 19s 13m 1a 9i 12l 1a 24x
9+19+13+1+9+12+1+24= 88 [8+8] = 16

the massacre occured on 16th April
and the number 88 was drawn on a peace of paper he
added into the envelop he had send to NBC News.

_____________________________________________________
Now if we take al the results :
A. Ishmael = 5
Ishmael Ax = 11
Ismail Ax = 16

5+11+16 = 32 ( Thirty-two people shot by Cho at Virginia Tech )
_____________________________________________________

This is weird !
Eventhough i`m still not sure what it would mean exactelly,
it almost looks like an encrypted message, or something like that.

How do you explain this ?

]]> By: PaulGibson http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33923 PaulGibson Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:03:06 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33923 The shooter spelled A.Ishmael,Ismail Ax etc.differently. Therefore, it could not have meant much to him. If it was really some message or something he felt dtrongly about,then it would have been spelled correctly. The only logical conclusion is that it probably was a name he drew from literature,religion etc. as some twisted pseudonym. He posted the package as "A.Ishmael" and then fearing that it would be lost, or noone could make a connection, he wrote it on his arm [albeit wrong] to ensure that the package would be tied to him. Therefore, I see it not as a message or that it means something, but simply as a confirmation of who the package belonged to. He posted it after the first shooting, so he was afraid that there was already a police call on his original name. After using the pseudonym he probably realized that he needed a to make sure that everything went according to plan. The filing of the gun numbers reveals similar thought patterns. People don't know why he did it if he was going to send a package of himself to NBC. It's simple really. If his plans were discovered before execution he could dump the weapons, with no trace to him, to "reset" his plans. Imagine cho walking down the street with his weapons and a police vehicle approaches. Dump weapons and it's back to the drawing board without being caught. The shooter spelled A.Ishmael,Ismail Ax etc.differently. Therefore, it could not have meant much to him. If it was really some message or something he felt dtrongly about,then it would have been spelled correctly.

The only logical conclusion is that it probably was a name he drew from literature,religion etc. as some twisted pseudonym. He posted the package as “A.Ishmael” and then fearing that it would be lost, or noone could make a connection, he wrote it on his arm [albeit wrong] to ensure that the package would be tied to him.

Therefore, I see it not as a message or that it means something, but simply as a confirmation of who the package belonged to.

He posted it after the first shooting, so he was afraid that there was already a police call on his original name. After using the pseudonym he probably realized that he needed a to make sure that everything went according to plan.

The filing of the gun numbers reveals similar thought patterns. People don’t know why he did it if he was going to send a package of himself to NBC. It’s simple really. If his plans were discovered before execution he could dump the weapons, with no trace to him, to “reset” his plans.

Imagine cho walking down the street with his weapons and a police vehicle approaches. Dump weapons and it’s back to the drawing board without being caught.

]]> By: Lordx http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33924 Lordx Fri, 20 Apr 2007 12:34:02 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-33924 still ... Ishmael Ax = 911 This is more then a coincident i think. still … Ishmael Ax = 911
This is more then a coincident i think.

]]> By: Psychic http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-34022 Psychic Sun, 22 Apr 2007 01:24:21 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-34022 Cho Seung Hui had his own twisted logic, which doesn`t need to obey our logical way of thinking, he showed this clearly to the world. He most likely felt very misunderstood and mistreated... and did show that he was extremely out of control.. But this still was a very calculated young man. He appears to have become a "Riddler". He didn`t he call himself : Questionmark ? The intertwined number 88 (8+8=16) he drew and the other drawings, the play writings and the way he constructed the massacre,... shows he had a creative imaginary mindset, but misused this terribly. I`m very angry and sad about this whole ordeal without any doubt.. but also want to understand his point of view. I do agree with a possible interconnected logic, between the name variations A. Ishmael , Ishmael Ax, Ismail Ax. Its possible that the different spelling was intentional... by which you could look at the relationships between them. In this way he could encrypt a few different riddles, inhancing the feeling of attention. He wanted attention i feel. He could have had frustrations towards those people that only saw what they wanted to see and didn`t expect the obvious,... his logic at least. And specifically the positive attention he never got. From his point of view it didn`t matter what he did, he was the outcast and could have become such a loner that his world became one big fantasy. My intuition tells me that he really felt that their was no other option then to make everyone listen to his way of story telling, that it became one of the most tragic events anyone could imagine. No one really was interested in his way of thinking (i feel), perhaps making it a good reason for chosing this his sick deeds and choosing such a strange name as : A. Ishmael (and alternatives.) This probably could have had more then one meaning to him, and that is something he figured would really create a big question mark for everyone. My guess is that he wanted to present a riddle , knowing that most people would not understand, like always, but some would. He did add the " Ax" to the name Ishmael, and this makes it a riddle, if you ask me. It could be that he did mean to encrypt the number 88 and 911 into his alternative name. Something for the world to chew on. That is why i also think that it has more then one meaning. Try to connect the dots.... thats what my intuition tells me at least. Kind Regards, Psychic Cho Seung Hui had his own twisted logic, which doesn`t need to obey our logical way of thinking, he showed this clearly to the world. He most likely felt very misunderstood and mistreated… and did show that he was extremely out of control.. But this still was a very calculated young man. He appears to have become a “Riddler”. He didn`t he call himself : Questionmark ? The intertwined number 88 (8+8=16) he drew and the other drawings, the play writings and the way he constructed the massacre,… shows he had a creative imaginary mindset, but misused this terribly.
I`m very angry and sad about this whole ordeal
without any doubt.. but also want to understand his point of view.

I do agree with a possible interconnected logic,
between the name variations A. Ishmael , Ishmael Ax, Ismail Ax. Its possible that the different spelling was intentional… by which you could look at the relationships between them. In this way he could encrypt a few different riddles, inhancing the feeling of attention. He wanted attention i feel.
He could have had frustrations towards those people that only saw what they wanted to see
and didn`t expect the obvious,… his logic at least.
And specifically the positive attention he never got.
From his point of view it didn`t matter what he did,
he was the outcast and could have become such a loner that his world became one big fantasy.
My intuition tells me that he really felt that their was no other option then to make everyone listen to his way of story telling, that it became one of the most tragic events anyone could imagine.
No one really was interested in his way of thinking (i feel), perhaps making it a good reason for chosing this his sick deeds and choosing such a strange name as : A. Ishmael (and alternatives.)

This probably could have had more then one meaning to him, and that is something he figured would really create a big question mark for everyone.
My guess is that he wanted to present a riddle , knowing that most people would not understand,
like always, but some would.
He did add the ” Ax” to the name Ishmael, and this makes it a riddle, if you ask me.

It could be that he did mean to encrypt the number 88 and 911 into his alternative name. Something for the world to chew on. That is why i also think that it has more then one meaning. Try to connect the dots…. thats what my intuition tells me at least.

Kind Regards, Psychic

]]> By: mark http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-34046 mark Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:12:52 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-34046 I personally think the 32 people killed was a coincidence, but the numbers 9 1 1 hidden in the name ,.. that could be something else. I personally think the 32 people killed was a coincidence, but the numbers 9 1 1 hidden in the name ,.. that could be something else.

]]> By: 1psychic1 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-34066 1psychic1 Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:13:12 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-34066 911+88=999 this does look like an explination. Read this carefully ! > The seal of Solomon known as the sixpointed Jewish star, contains the old wisdom: "as above, so below". This wisdom is reflected with the numbers 6 and 9; the number 6 seen from above is 9 and 9 seen from above is 6. Nostradamus knew this when he dated the end of time to 999. (Remark: At the time when Nostradamus lived it was a custom to write the year without the 1000, i.e. they wrote 666 instead of 1666, and so on.) And since the end of time cannot be predictet as to Mt: 24: 34, Nostradamus` "end of time" prediction has nothing to do with the year 1999. Still it has a relation and that is to the seal of Solomon; "as above (999), so below (666)". Nostradamus knew that in a numerological sence the Bible speaks of the same persons revelation: 666 = 6+6+6 = 18 = 1+8 = 9 999 = 9+9+9 = 27 = 2+7 = 9 This relates to the not so peacefull side of Jesus,(666/Mt:10:34-35): "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law." At the "same" time he showed his good side too,(999/Mt:12:7): "But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not have condemned the guiltless." Thus Jesus reflected man in flesh and blood. And this is what life is about for all of us. We undergo 9 months of pregnancy, the number of man so to speak. Then for the rest of our lives, we have to face and bring forth our inner abilities of good (999) and/or bad (666) behaviour. "As above - so below" by Arvid Luneng, first published in 1996. the above information came from: http://home.online.no/~luneng/999.html 911+88=999

this does look like an explination.
Read this carefully ! >

The seal of Solomon

known as the sixpointed Jewish star, contains the old wisdom: “as above, so below”. This wisdom is reflected with the numbers 6 and 9; the number 6 seen from above is 9 and 9 seen from above is 6. Nostradamus knew this when he dated the end of time to 999. (Remark: At the time when Nostradamus lived it was a custom to write the year without the 1000, i.e. they wrote 666 instead of 1666, and so on.)
And since the end of time cannot be predictet as to Mt: 24: 34, Nostradamus` “end of time” prediction has nothing to do with the year 1999. Still it has a relation and that is to the seal of Solomon; “as above (999), so below (666)”. Nostradamus knew that in a numerological sence the Bible speaks of the same persons revelation:

666 = 6+6+6 = 18 = 1+8 = 9
999 = 9+9+9 = 27 = 2+7 = 9

This relates to the not so peacefull side of Jesus,(666/Mt:10:34-35):
“Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her
mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.”
At the “same” time he showed his good side too,(999/Mt:12:7):
“But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice, ye would not
have condemned the guiltless.”
Thus Jesus reflected man in flesh and blood.

And this is what life is about for all of us. We undergo 9 months of pregnancy, the number of man so to speak. Then for the rest of our lives, we have to face and bring forth our inner abilities of good (999) and/or bad (666) behaviour.

“As above - so below” by Arvid Luneng, first published in 1996.
the above information came from:
http://home.online.no/~luneng/999.html

]]> By: Mark http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-34083 Mark Sun, 22 Apr 2007 21:24:38 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-34083 did i read this correctly ? it is strange that the Columbine High School Massacre took place in 1999 ( 4/20/99 ) so "the end of time" idea became related to 1999 -"as above" (999) .... so the 999 isn`t that far fetched i guess. 666, or 999 , or alternative spellings, it all depends on how you look at it..... i guess It is an interesting subject, could he really have used numerological symbology ? - questionmark* April 20th and April 16th, four days apart, exactelly 8 years later. didnt i see 8 digits earlier on ? He went back to the campus for a 2nd time (2) and 8/2=4 or 8x2=16 or 4+16=20 perhaps it is mumbo jumbo, or there Cho could have a interest in numerology. He did say on his video he saw himself as Jesus, and 999 also relates to Jesus. Perhaps more information will appear in the future. did i read this correctly ?

it is strange that the Columbine High School Massacre took place in 1999 ( 4/20/99 )
so “the end of time” idea became related to 1999 -”as above” (999)
…. so the 999 isn`t that far fetched i guess.

666, or 999 , or alternative spellings, it all depends
on how you look at it….. i guess

It is an interesting subject, could he really have used numerological symbology ? - questionmark*
April 20th and April 16th, four days apart, exactelly 8 years later. didnt i see 8 digits earlier on ?
He went back to the campus for a 2nd time (2) and
8/2=4 or 8×2=16 or 4+16=20 perhaps it is mumbo jumbo, or there Cho could have a interest in numerology. He did say on his video he saw himself as Jesus, and 999 also relates to Jesus.

Perhaps more information will appear in the future.

]]> By: Richard http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-34090 Richard Sun, 22 Apr 2007 22:38:14 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-34090 Ismail Ax should also be 888 because it consists of 8 digits and spells number 88 ,.... just like Ishmael Ax has 9 digits and spells the number 11 which indeed gives us 911. 888 is the Sacred number of Christ http://taratarotweb.tripod.com/id42.html Ismail Ax should also be 888 because it consists of
8 digits and spells number 88 ,…. just like
Ishmael Ax has 9 digits and spells the number 11
which indeed gives us 911.

888 is the Sacred number of Christ
http://taratarotweb.tripod.com/id42.html

]]> By: Will M. http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-34140 Will M. Mon, 23 Apr 2007 14:48:06 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-34140 Thank you guys, for helping. I`ve created a Blog with more clear details about what i`ve discovered... and perhaps we can slowly get a clearer picture of the intentions which led to this terrible tragedy. take a look at this blog if you like >> http://viginiatechmassacre911.blogspot.com/ Thank you guys, for helping.
I`ve created a Blog with more clear details about what i`ve discovered… and perhaps we can slowly get a clearer picture of the intentions which led to this terrible tragedy.

take a look at this blog if you like >>
http://viginiatechmassacre911.blogspot.com/

]]> By: Dr BLT http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-34281 Dr BLT Wed, 25 Apr 2007 23:52:23 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-34281 drblt.netdrblt.netAll I have to offer is a couple of songs to show my support and sympathy. I wish I could reverse time and prevent the tragedy from happening, but I'm not God, I'm just a singer/songwriter who has a day job as a shrink: Today in Virginia Dr BLT words and music by Dr BLT (c) 2007 http://www.drblt.net/music/TinV.mp3 Virginia's Tears Dr BLT words and music by Dr BLT (c) 2007 http://www.drblt.net/music/VT.mp3 drblt.netdrblt.netAll I have to offer is a couple of songs to show my support and sympathy. I wish I could reverse time and prevent the tragedy from happening, but I’m not God, I’m just a singer/songwriter who has a day job as a shrink:

Today in Virginia
Dr BLT
words and music by Dr BLT (c) 2007
http://www.drblt.net/music/TinV.mp3

Virginia’s Tears
Dr BLT
words and music by Dr BLT (c) 2007
http://www.drblt.net/music/VT.mp3

]]> By: Tim http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-55114 Tim Wed, 30 Jan 2008 22:41:24 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/04/17/profiles-in-the-virginia-tech-massacre-the-shooter/#comment-55114 I go to Appalachian State University, just 150 miles south of Blacksburg. Today I saw this on a power transformer: "X ISHMAEL". Should this be taken as a threat? I go to Appalachian State University, just 150 miles south of Blacksburg. Today I saw this on a power transformer:
“X ISHMAEL”. Should this be taken as a threat?

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