Comments on: Sarko the Magnificent http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/ Sat, 30 Aug 2008 02:34:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: harry http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34904 harry Mon, 07 May 2007 02:39:21 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34904 I understand they're making it a gay old time over there already. I understand they’re making it a gay old time over there already.

]]> By: Ray Huttig http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34905 Ray Huttig Mon, 07 May 2007 02:43:18 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34905 I would suggest that the boomers affect on the United States has been quite disasterous especially in the academic world which is busy multiplying the ignorance. I would suggest that the boomers affect on the United States has been quite disasterous especially in the academic world which is busy multiplying the ignorance.

]]> By: Donald Douglas http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34907 Donald Douglas Mon, 07 May 2007 03:32:13 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34907 Hi: Saw your link on Memeorandum. I'm a former Democrat too, now pretty much a neoconservative, with Burkean inclinations. I thought I'd pass along my post I wrote this morning on an academic political science article making the case for an Israeli preventive strike on Iran's nuclear development program. It's very compelling! Check it out: http://burkeanreflections.blogspot.com/2007/05/assessing-israeli-capabilities-for.html I like your blog, by the way! Take care! Hi: Saw your link on Memeorandum. I’m a former Democrat too, now pretty much a neoconservative, with Burkean inclinations. I thought I’d pass along my post I wrote this morning on an academic political science article making the case for an Israeli preventive strike on Iran’s nuclear development program. It’s very compelling! Check it out:

http://burkeanreflections.blogspot.com/2007/05/assessing-israeli-capabilities-for.html

I like your blog, by the way! Take care!

]]> By: sergey http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34908 sergey Mon, 07 May 2007 03:55:47 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34908 Last night more 80 cars were burned in French black ghettoes. By such vandalism Muslim youth were showing their dissatisfaction by election results. A good case to strip the vandals of citizenship and deport them to country of origin. Last night more 80 cars were burned in French black ghettoes. By such vandalism Muslim youth were showing their dissatisfaction by election results. A good case to strip the vandals of citizenship and deport them to country of origin.

]]> By: sergey http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34910 sergey Mon, 07 May 2007 04:11:27 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34910 I hope this is 18 Brumaire for him. If true, this is a new page in European history. I hope this is 18 Brumaire for him. If true, this is a new page in European history.

]]> By: alphie http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34911 alphie Mon, 07 May 2007 04:56:33 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34911 Looks like Sarkozy's first gesture to America was to ask us to sign Kyoto. I doubt that will play well the oil and coal crowd. Looks like Sarkozy’s first gesture to America was to ask us to sign Kyoto.

I doubt that will play well the oil and coal crowd.

]]> By: sergey http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34913 sergey Mon, 07 May 2007 05:57:06 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34913 The choice between Sego and Sarko was clear-cut choice between archetypal Mother figure and Father figure. The first nurtures, comfortes, care; the second demands, punishes, judge. The message of the first: more of the same. Message of the second: you must change. The first is attractive to infantile, narcissistic individuals, for whom future does not exist, and no responsibility is admitted; they live in eternal "now", their worst fear is to lose Mother; while she is here, everything is OK. The second is attractive to adolescent, obsessed with guilt and fear of inadequacy; this guilt can be absolved by punishment, and inadequacy compensated by wise and strong leadership. They are ready to endure pain to acquire manhood (as in initiation rites) and to obey to authority - this absolves original sin of disobedience. When a nation get tired of disorder and unrest, it readily embraces no-nonsense Sheriff. This is counter-revolution of some sort, or revolt against the last revolt. The last revolt was 1968; it is time to revolt against its legacy. The choice between Sego and Sarko was clear-cut choice between archetypal Mother figure and Father figure. The first nurtures, comfortes, care; the second demands, punishes, judge. The message of the first: more of the same. Message of the second: you must change. The first is attractive to infantile, narcissistic individuals, for whom future does not exist, and no responsibility is admitted; they live in eternal “now”, their worst fear is to lose Mother; while she is here, everything is OK. The second is attractive to adolescent, obsessed with guilt and fear of inadequacy; this guilt can be absolved by punishment, and inadequacy compensated by wise and strong leadership. They are ready to endure pain to acquire manhood (as in initiation rites) and to obey to authority - this absolves original sin of disobedience. When a nation get tired of disorder and unrest, it readily embraces no-nonsense Sheriff. This is counter-revolution of some sort, or revolt against the last revolt. The last revolt was 1968; it is time to revolt against its legacy.

]]> By: sergey http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34915 sergey Mon, 07 May 2007 07:11:19 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34915 France can easily satisfy Kyoto norms, because 80% of its electricity are generated by nuclear power plants, and railroads are electrified too. But in US this would lead to ecnomic stagnation. Switch to atomic energy can't be made quickly enogh, capital investment are huge and time of recouping long (more 15 years). France can easily satisfy Kyoto norms, because 80% of its electricity are generated by nuclear power plants, and railroads are electrified too. But in US this would lead to ecnomic stagnation. Switch to atomic energy can’t be made quickly enogh, capital investment are huge and time of recouping long (more 15 years).

]]> By: camojack http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34916 camojack Mon, 07 May 2007 08:05:56 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34916 Hope springs eternal! Hope springs eternal!

]]> By: armchair pessimist http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34918 armchair pessimist Mon, 07 May 2007 12:18:41 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34918 Actually,this election isn't over yet. There's still the third round, which is held in the streets. Sarko will have his work cut out for him winning that one. And it may take many whiffs of grapeshot. Actually,this election isn’t over yet. There’s still the third round, which is held in the streets. Sarko will have his work cut out for him winning that one. And it may take many whiffs of grapeshot.

]]> By: Dawson Do-right http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34919 Dawson Do-right Mon, 07 May 2007 12:50:35 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34919 Sarkozy would like us to be at the kyoto table, which is a place we haven't thought of going since 2000. If you're not at the table, you can't ask for less taters and more meat. I think Sarkozy is a good change of climate in france and I look forward to seeing his economic polices. Sarkozy would like us to be at the kyoto table, which is a place we haven’t thought of going since 2000. If you’re not at the table, you can’t ask for less taters and more meat.

I think Sarkozy is a good change of climate in france and I look forward to seeing his economic polices.

]]> By: Jen http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34920 Jen Mon, 07 May 2007 13:16:23 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34920 Armchair pessimest, If there was a turnout of 85 percent, and 53% voted for Sarko, why does he still need to win "the streets"? It sounds to me as if you are saying that the voters represent some kind of elite but not the common man (the man of the streets), yet this is clearly not the case unless the majority of the French are part of its elite. If that is not what you meant, please clarify. Armchair pessimest, If there was a turnout of 85 percent, and 53% voted for Sarko, why does he still need to win “the streets”? It sounds to me as if you are saying that the voters represent some kind of elite but not the common man (the man of the streets), yet this is clearly not the case unless the majority of the French are part of its elite. If that is not what you meant, please clarify.

]]> By: armchair pessimist http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34921 armchair pessimist Mon, 07 May 2007 13:42:26 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34921 Jen, I mean that this next round will be about the barricades, not the ballot box France has a long history of the mob taking to the streets to impose its will on the duly elected government--for that matter on the rest of France. Usually, but not always, the government backs down. Hopefully, the French people have given Sarkozy permisson to give the troublemakers one serious asswhuppin'. We'll find out. Jen,

I mean that this next round will be about the barricades, not the ballot box

France has a long history of the mob taking to the streets to impose its will on the duly elected government–for that matter on the rest of France. Usually, but not always, the government backs down.

Hopefully, the French people have given Sarkozy permisson to give the troublemakers one serious asswhuppin’. We’ll find out.

]]> By: Anon Y. Mous http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34922 Anon Y. Mous Mon, 07 May 2007 15:26:10 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34922 "The choice between Sego and Sarko was clear-cut choice between archetypal Mother figure and Father figure. The first nurtures, comfortes, care; the second demands, punishes, judge. The message of the first: more of the same. Message of the second: you must change." Is it worth pointing out that Sarko's victory entails the incumbent party remaining in power? “The choice between Sego and Sarko was clear-cut choice between archetypal Mother figure and Father figure. The first nurtures, comfortes, care; the second demands, punishes, judge. The message of the first: more of the same. Message of the second: you must change.”

Is it worth pointing out that Sarko’s victory entails the incumbent party remaining in power?

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34923 Ymarsakar Mon, 07 May 2007 15:41:41 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34923 y would make a great revolutionary. y would make a great revolutionary.

]]> By: Chuck http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34924 Chuck Mon, 07 May 2007 16:45:34 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34924 Yay!! We'll have to wait and see how he does -- but nonetheless, this is definitely a positive development! 12 - years to be exact which in France is the presidential time line. Yay!! We’ll have to wait and see how he does — but nonetheless, this is definitely a positive development! 12 - years to be exact which in France is the presidential time line.

]]> By: james wilson http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34925 james wilson Mon, 07 May 2007 17:09:50 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34925 If this is a beginning, it is no more than that. A great leader brings a great movement with him, but Sarko only appears good against the backdrop of French illusions and delusions. That is not a movement, but a reaction. There are signs even in his recent past that Sarko is not a principled visionary, or that the French would want one. They will need to be closer yet to the roar of the falls to pull their heads out of their asses. If this is a beginning, it is no more than that. A great leader brings a great movement with him, but Sarko only appears good against the backdrop of French illusions and delusions. That is not a movement, but a reaction.
There are signs even in his recent past that Sarko is not a principled visionary, or that the French would want one. They will need to be closer yet to the roar of the falls to pull their heads out of their asses.

]]> By: WEVS1 http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34927 WEVS1 Mon, 07 May 2007 18:20:25 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/05/06/sarko-the-magnificent/#comment-34927 For those of us who were concerned about a leftward lurch in Europe--especially after Zapatero’s election in Spain and the subsequent removal of Spanish troops from Iraq--this is extremely good news. Sarkozy has plans to do a lot of positive things for France. Most importantly for Americans, and America’s image abroad, Sarkozy will do much to mend the frayed trans-Atlantic relationship between our two countries. This is all very good news. But Armchair pessimist is correct as well. Sarkozy is aware that he’ll be facing opposition in the streets including riots by immigrant youth in the suburbs and more organized protests and demonstrations by workers and farmers organizations in the core of Paris. The French people clearly are not united behind Sarkozy’s view for the future of France. The political atmosphere there, as here, is extremely polarized. For those of us who were concerned about a leftward lurch in Europe–especially after Zapatero’s election in Spain and the subsequent removal of Spanish troops from Iraq–this is extremely good news. Sarkozy has plans to do a lot of positive things for France. Most importantly for Americans, and America’s image abroad, Sarkozy will do much to mend the frayed trans-Atlantic relationship between our two countries. This is all very good news.

But Armchair pessimist is correct as well. Sarkozy is aware that he’ll be facing opposition in the streets including riots by immigrant youth in the suburbs and more organized protests and demonstrations by workers and farmers organizations in the core of Paris. The French people clearly are not united behind Sarkozy’s view for the future of France. The political atmosphere there, as here, is extremely polarized.

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