Comments on: Guilt by association: General Petraeus and the company he keeps http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/ Sat, 11 Oct 2008 21:32:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: gcotharn http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38688 gcotharn Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:07:34 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38688 One can see the logic in destroying Patraeus at any cost. The power to run the United States - both the Executive and the Legislative - is at stake. The entire 2008 Elections will be decided in a September 2007 Kabuki Theater in a Senate Chamber. The summer and fall 2008 campaigns don't much matter. It's all about Sept. 2007. Because the Surge is succeeding: Patraeus will be Borked. There is no other way for the Dems. Too much is at stake. My favorite accusation is that Patreaus used a lowdown strategy of bypassing the MSM in order to get his "unfiltered message" out. LOL Captain Ed makes a good point: Bush' critics have forever said: "Listen to the Generals! Put more troops on the ground!" Now that we have more troops, "the Generals" are saying we are succeeding, and those same critics are saying "Don't listen to the Generals!" Of course: "Listen to the Generals" never actually meant "Listen to the Generals." It meant: "Bush is incompetent. Vote Democratic." I blogged my very best effort on this topic: <a href="http://theendzone.blogspot.com/2007/07/david-patreus-must-be-destroyed.html" rel="nofollow">Link</a> One can see the logic in destroying Patraeus at any cost. The power to run the United States - both the Executive and the Legislative - is at stake. The entire 2008 Elections will be decided in a September 2007 Kabuki Theater in a Senate Chamber. The summer and fall 2008 campaigns don’t much matter. It’s all about Sept. 2007.

Because the Surge is succeeding: Patraeus will be Borked. There is no other way for the Dems. Too much is at stake.

My favorite accusation is that Patreaus used a lowdown strategy of bypassing the MSM in order to get his “unfiltered message” out. LOL

Captain Ed makes a good point:

Bush’ critics have forever said: “Listen to the Generals! Put more troops on the ground!”

Now that we have more troops, “the Generals” are saying we are succeeding, and those same critics are saying “Don’t listen to the Generals!”

Of course: “Listen to the Generals” never actually meant “Listen to the Generals.”

It meant: “Bush is incompetent. Vote Democratic.”

I blogged my very best effort on this topic: Link

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38689 Ymarsakar Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:08:12 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38689 <b>But Petraeus is either willing to be used by the Republican propaganda machine or he is part of the Republican propaganda machine.</b> People that believe their own propaganda, as Sullie does, should not be talking about propaganda, Neo. Theirs or anyone else's for that matter. <b>and all of that “supporting the troops” stuff on the part of the Left/liberals</b> That was propaganda, obviously. <b>And they call Petraeus biased.</b> That's because they believe in their own propaganda that they are the righteous and unfallen members of humanity, destined and ready to Rule. Anyone that tries to say otherwise, must be shut down and silenced. Just as Stalin silenced Trotsky. <b>Of course: “Listen to the Generals” never actually meant “Listen to the Generals.”</b> Exactly, except the Left believed in their own propaganda. And now that their propaganda line has changed, they believe in it just as fervently as they believed in the last "Oceania was at war with" line. No wonder they can't think straight, most of their energies are concentrated on keeping their compartamentalized boat sinking with half of the compartments compromised with leaks and water. But Petraeus is either willing to be used by the Republican propaganda machine or he is part of the Republican propaganda machine.

People that believe their own propaganda, as Sullie does, should not be talking about propaganda, Neo. Theirs or anyone else’s for that matter.

and all of that “supporting the troops” stuff on the part of the Left/liberals

That was propaganda, obviously.

And they call Petraeus biased.

That’s because they believe in their own propaganda that they are the righteous and unfallen members of humanity, destined and ready to Rule. Anyone that tries to say otherwise, must be shut down and silenced.

Just as Stalin silenced Trotsky.

Of course: “Listen to the Generals” never actually meant “Listen to the Generals.”

Exactly, except the Left believed in their own propaganda. And now that their propaganda line has changed, they believe in it just as fervently as they believed in the last “Oceania was at war with” line.

No wonder they can’t think straight, most of their energies are concentrated on keeping their compartamentalized boat sinking with half of the compartments compromised with leaks and water.

]]> By: Zhombre http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38690 Zhombre Mon, 23 Jul 2007 22:47:27 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38690 Sullivan has been unhinged for quite a while now --- if only the nasty conservatives would let him get married and settle down! --- and Matt Yglesias is an elitist supercilious Georgetown twit. What he knows about the military fits in a flea's navel. What he thinks he knows about everything is as vast as the number of Starbucks in North America. Sullivan has been unhinged for quite a while now — if only the nasty conservatives would let him get married and settle down! — and Matt Yglesias is an elitist supercilious Georgetown twit. What he knows about the military fits in a flea’s navel. What he thinks he knows about everything is as vast as the number of Starbucks in North America.

]]> By: Jimbo - PRS http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38693 Jimbo - PRS Tue, 24 Jul 2007 01:27:08 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38693 I would love to see General Petraeus confront Sullivan one on one, but it won't happen because General Petraeus has more important things to do than worry about what someone about as important as a bit of bird crap has to say. I would love to see General Petraeus confront Sullivan one on one, but it won’t happen because General Petraeus has more important things to do than worry about what someone about as important as a bit of bird crap has to say.

]]> By: Mark http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38696 Mark Tue, 24 Jul 2007 02:45:58 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38696 Neo, I think it's important that you regularly present links to things that help to answer the statement that there is no improvement. A one-paragraph epilogue on Iraqi progress of the day, perhaps, so that even those who come in to troll will see good news over and over. I appeal to you and everyone who has a public platform to regularly present good news. If by breaking the MSM silence we can get just 8% of the electorate to doubt the Left's narrative, we may nudge the '08 elections in the right direction. Neo, I think it’s important that you regularly present links to things that help to answer the statement that there is no improvement. A one-paragraph epilogue on Iraqi progress of the day, perhaps, so that even those who come in to troll will see good news over and over. I appeal to you and everyone who has a public platform to regularly present good news. If by breaking the MSM silence we can get just 8% of the electorate to doubt the Left’s narrative, we may nudge the ‘08 elections in the right direction.

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38701 Ymarsakar Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:20:53 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38701 blackfive.netAnyone want mil tech info, they need to go to www.blackfive.net Neo's specialty is not quite suited for the full line of battle counts. Most of us knew what the Left was up to, but I think their latest shenanigans are special in that it rises to a level where it is quite obvious what they are doing. No amount of good news will affect a person that has been indoctrinated into a brain lock state. It takes more shock than reading would create, to change the mind of such a person. blackfive.netAnyone want mil tech info, they need to go to www.blackfive.net

Neo’s specialty is not quite suited for the full line of battle counts. Most of us knew what the Left was up to, but I think their latest shenanigans are special in that it rises to a level where it is quite obvious what they are doing.

No amount of good news will affect a person that has been indoctrinated into a brain lock state. It takes more shock than reading would create, to change the mind of such a person.

]]> By: camojack http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38702 camojack Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:40:37 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38702 And the beat(ing of a deceased equine) goes on... And the beat(ing of a deceased equine) goes on…

]]> By: harry http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38723 harry Wed, 25 Jul 2007 04:10:12 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38723 The National Intelligence Estimate predicts increased levels of attacks by liberals, their pandering politicians and a hostile press on not only the current US administration, but also upon the US military as well, leading up to the '08 US presidential election cycle. Be especially watchful of increasing calls for congressional investigations on the Bush administration for matters great and small followed by increased calls for impeachment. On the homefront, we expect higher instances of anti-war rallies with soldiers burned in effigy, coffins placed at local National Guard Armories, lunatics carrying signs that read "I'll Support the Troops when they Shoot Their Officers", and Starbucks storefront windows being smashed in. We expect these higher levels of "tolerance & enlightenment" when the moon is full, or an appeal judge overturns Scooter Libby's conviction. You are advised to place a clump of garlic above your door to ward off moonbats and to carry chemical mace around with you if garlic is not potent enough. Of course, the 2nd amendment remains intact if necessary. The National Intelligence Estimate predicts increased levels of attacks by liberals, their pandering politicians and a hostile press on not only the current US administration, but also upon the US military as well, leading up to the ‘08 US presidential election cycle.

Be especially watchful of increasing calls for congressional investigations on the Bush administration for matters great and small followed by increased calls for impeachment.

On the homefront, we expect higher instances of anti-war rallies with soldiers burned in effigy, coffins placed at local National Guard Armories, lunatics carrying signs that read “I’ll Support the Troops when they Shoot Their Officers”, and Starbucks storefront windows being smashed in.

We expect these higher levels of “tolerance & enlightenment” when the moon is full, or an appeal judge overturns Scooter Libby’s conviction.

You are advised to place a clump of garlic above your door to ward off moonbats and to carry chemical mace around with you if garlic is not potent enough. Of course, the 2nd amendment remains intact if necessary.

]]> By: Michael Blaine http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38726 Michael Blaine Wed, 25 Jul 2007 04:48:43 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38726 rudelystamped.blogspot.comThe sick thing is all the American kids who will have to die while the politicians play their games. And let’s not forget the 66,000 Iraqi civilian deaths, and the hellhole Iraqis have to live in every day. 2 million have fled the country already as refugees, and 2 million are internally displaced. The US government owes the Iraqi people a formal apology, plus massive reparations for recklessly intervening in their country. Michael Blaine www.rudelystamped.blogspot.com rudelystamped.blogspot.comThe sick thing is all the American kids who will have to die while the politicians play their games.

And let’s not forget the 66,000 Iraqi civilian deaths, and the hellhole Iraqis have to live in every day. 2 million have fled the country already as refugees, and 2 million are internally displaced.

The US government owes the Iraqi people a formal apology, plus massive reparations for recklessly intervening in their country.

Michael Blaine
www.rudelystamped.blogspot.com

]]> By: Michael Blaine http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38727 Michael Blaine Wed, 25 Jul 2007 04:49:37 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38727 rudelystamped.blogspot.comThe sick thing is all the American kids who will have to die while the politicians play their games. And let’s not forget the Iraqi civilian deaths, and the hellhole Iraqis have to live in every day. 2 million have fled the country already as refugees, and 2 million are internally displaced. The US government owes the Iraqi people a formal apology, plus massive reparations for recklessly intervening in their country. Michael Blaine www.rudelystamped.blogspot.com rudelystamped.blogspot.comThe sick thing is all the American kids who will have to die while the politicians play their games.

And let’s not forget the Iraqi civilian deaths, and the hellhole Iraqis have to live in every day. 2 million have fled the country already as refugees, and 2 million are internally displaced.

The US government owes the Iraqi people a formal apology, plus massive reparations for recklessly intervening in their country.

Michael Blaine
www.rudelystamped.blogspot.com

]]> By: Michael Blaine http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38728 Michael Blaine Wed, 25 Jul 2007 04:51:49 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38728 iraqbodycount.nethttp://www.iraqbodycount.net/ iraqbodycount.nethttp://www.iraqbodycount.net/

]]> By: Michael Blaine http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38729 Michael Blaine Wed, 25 Jul 2007 04:54:44 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38729 <!-- include cost of war javascript; this runs the counter --> <!-- the elements 'row' and 'alt' will be changed by the javascript to contain the correct numbers --> <b>Cost of the War in Iraq</b> (JavaScript Error) <a href="http://costofwar.com" rel="nofollow">To see more details, click here.</a> <!-- this line triggers the counter to start --> inc_totals_at_rate(1000); Cost of the War in Iraq (JavaScript Error) To see more details, click here. inc_totals_at_rate(1000);

]]> By: Lee http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38735 Lee Wed, 25 Jul 2007 08:10:45 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38735 Hey, At least ol' "Hitler Youth" Michael Blaine here didn't quote the Lancet Study. Hey,
At least ol’ “Hitler Youth” Michael Blaine here didn’t quote the Lancet Study.

]]> By: Michael Blaine http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38765 Michael Blaine Wed, 25 Jul 2007 22:33:36 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38765 rudelystamped.blogspot.comDoes needless death bother anybody here? Michael Blaine www.rudelystamped.blogspot.com rudelystamped.blogspot.comDoes needless death bother anybody here?

Michael Blaine
www.rudelystamped.blogspot.com

]]> By: Michael Blaine http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38766 Michael Blaine Wed, 25 Jul 2007 22:36:10 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38766 rudelystamped.blogspot.comI mean, what are you trying to say, Lee? The US invasion of Iraq has led to not a single civilian death? In fact, it has led directly to at least 66,000 documented civilian deaths. If that doesn't make one's skin crawl, I have questions about that person's humanity. Michael Blaine www.rudelystamped.blogspot.com rudelystamped.blogspot.comI mean, what are you trying to say, Lee? The US invasion of Iraq has led to not a single civilian death?

In fact, it has led directly to at least 66,000 documented civilian deaths.

If that doesn’t make one’s skin crawl, I have questions about that person’s humanity.

Michael Blaine
www.rudelystamped.blogspot.com

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38856 Ymarsakar Fri, 27 Jul 2007 18:07:48 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-38856 All the terrorists have to do to stop the killing is to commit hara kiri, Michael. You should focus your energies on making sure that happens, or else the blood of more people will be spilled. <b>The sick thing is all the American kids who will have to die while the politicians play their games.</b> You people have been playing games with lives for a long time now. Don't think we are unable to see this. All the terrorists have to do to stop the killing is to commit hara kiri, Michael. You should focus your energies on making sure that happens, or else the blood of more people will be spilled.

The sick thing is all the American kids who will have to die while the politicians play their games.

You people have been playing games with lives for a long time now. Don’t think we are unable to see this.

]]> By: equalty http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-47807 equalty Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:06:41 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/07/23/guilt-by-association-general-petraeus-and-the-company-he-keeps/#comment-47807 Very good web forum, great work and thank you for your service. http://danuegonax.com Forgive that beside You was little ed! Very good web forum, great work and thank you for your service.
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Forgive that beside You was little ed!

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