Comments on: Osama gives a history lesson http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/09/osama-gives-a-history-lesson/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:40:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Sofia Vergara http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/09/osama-gives-a-history-lesson/#comment-49539 Sofia Vergara Thu, 13 Dec 2007 09:16:10 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/09/osama-gives-a-history-lesson/#comment-49539 Hi there...Man i love reading your blog, interesting posts ! it was a great Thursday . <a>Sofia Vergara</a> Hi there…Man i love reading your blog, interesting posts ! it was a great Thursday . Sofia Vergara

]]> By: Talkinkamel http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/09/osama-gives-a-history-lesson/#comment-41858 Talkinkamel Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:29:32 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/09/osama-gives-a-history-lesson/#comment-41858 mary Yes, I agree, Osama's jumped the shark! (I'd love to see his face photoshopped on the body of the Fonz, in that infamous shark-jumping episode.) Alive and unconquered, Osama would have been a hero. Dead, he would have been a martyr. Maybe this is the best way to deal with him; alive, but as a feeble clown with an obviously dyed beard, begging the American Left for help and mouthing speeches written for him by a pudgy Southern California ex-hippy. mary

Yes, I agree, Osama’s jumped the shark! (I’d love to see his face photoshopped on the body of the Fonz, in that infamous shark-jumping episode.)

Alive and unconquered, Osama would have been a hero. Dead, he would have been a martyr. Maybe this is the best way to deal with him; alive, but as a feeble clown with an obviously dyed beard, begging the American Left for help and mouthing speeches written for him by a pudgy Southern California ex-hippy.

]]> By: mary http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/09/osama-gives-a-history-lesson/#comment-41855 mary Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:19:33 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/09/osama-gives-a-history-lesson/#comment-41855 <i>Has anyone considered that maybe, this speech was actually written by an American traitor? Adam Gadahn, for instance?</i> I think it could have been. Either that, or Osama has been living in a basement in Falls Church, Virginia reading Daily Kos and antiwar.com. The most interesting thing about this speech is the press' reaction. For whatever reason, the speech obviously focused on the American left. The press is embarrased by the references to Lefty heroes like Chomsky and Scheuer, they're disappointed by the lack of real blood, threats and fear in the text and his beard looks funny. With this tape, Osama is losing his friends in the press. Even <a href="http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/offbeat/2007/09/10/moos.osama.beard.affil" rel="nofollow">CNN</a> is making fun of him. Effective media relations are essential to any terrorist organization. Osama (or Osama the brand) jumped the shark with this one. Has anyone considered that maybe, this speech was actually written by an American traitor? Adam Gadahn, for instance?

I think it could have been. Either that, or Osama has been living in a basement in Falls Church, Virginia reading Daily Kos and antiwar.com.

The most interesting thing about this speech is the press’ reaction. For whatever reason, the speech obviously focused on the American left. The press is embarrased by the references to Lefty heroes like Chomsky and Scheuer, they’re disappointed by the lack of real blood, threats and fear in the text and his beard looks funny. With this tape, Osama is losing his friends in the press. Even CNN is making fun of him.

Effective media relations are essential to any terrorist organization. Osama (or Osama the brand) jumped the shark with this one.

]]> By: Lee http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/09/osama-gives-a-history-lesson/#comment-41810 Lee Mon, 10 Sep 2007 19:41:29 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/09/osama-gives-a-history-lesson/#comment-41810 Of course, if his comments are any indicator, correct history seems to matter little to Donald, as well. Of course, if his comments are any indicator, correct history seems to matter little to Donald, as well.

]]> By: DC http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/09/osama-gives-a-history-lesson/#comment-41799 DC Mon, 10 Sep 2007 16:04:26 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/09/osama-gives-a-history-lesson/#comment-41799 Why we are dependent of foreign oil: This was explained to me in all seriousness by a fifty-five year old massage therapist. It’s because of the widespread use of the auto and there was a conspiracy that resulted in this widespread desire for autos. People used to ride nice clean electric trolleys, but they were replaced with dirty buses by a conspiracy of oil and auto companies. You can read about it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspiracy http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_335.html Arguing with him was futile. Of course I would never mention the name Rumsfeld to him, he would take that as a signal to rant about the war and from there it would be tales of germ warfare against the Indians and so on from which there would be no escape until he was done. Sometimes these massage therapy sessions were like entering a Twilight Zone portal into my childhood, life turned into a recurring bad dream with intermittent periods of waking up only to be pulled back in over and over until time was up. He did play the right sort of music to set a relaxing mood though, at least he got that right. Why we are dependent of foreign oil:

This was explained to me in all seriousness by a fifty-five year old massage therapist. It’s because of the widespread use of the auto and there was a conspiracy that resulted in this widespread desire for autos. People used to ride nice clean electric trolleys, but they were replaced with dirty buses by a conspiracy of oil and auto companies.

You can read about it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_streetcar_conspiracy

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_335.html

Arguing with him was futile. Of course I would never mention the name Rumsfeld to him, he would take that as a signal to rant about the war and from there it would be tales of germ warfare against the Indians and so on from which there would be no escape until he was done.

Sometimes these massage therapy sessions were like entering a Twilight Zone portal into my childhood, life turned into a recurring bad dream with intermittent periods of waking up only to be pulled back in over and over until time was up. He did play the right sort of music to set a relaxing mood though, at least he got that right.

]]> By: sergey http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/09/osama-gives-a-history-lesson/#comment-41798 sergey Mon, 10 Sep 2007 15:42:47 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/09/osama-gives-a-history-lesson/#comment-41798 Osama himself is not a big problem to wary about, but ideology he expounded is. In every radical mosque the same ideas are repeated in daily basis, in every European capital city and in many US cities too. When the West will surmount enough political will to put an end to this outrage? Osama himself is not a big problem to wary about, but ideology he expounded is. In every radical mosque the same ideas are repeated in daily basis, in every European capital city and in many US cities too. When the West will surmount enough political will to put an end to this outrage?

]]> By: Donald Wolberg http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/09/osama-gives-a-history-lesson/#comment-41795 Donald Wolberg Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:57:06 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/09/osama-gives-a-history-lesson/#comment-41795 Correct history or mythology matters little to the dead of 9/11 and all the others killed or maimed by these evil people. They need to be found and rendered harmless and then we can have all those political science grad students looking at the words and writing theses, but first matters first. It is one of the amazing failures of Clinton et al and later Bush et al, that leaves these deadly loonies hanging around their caves or otherwise. Correct history or mythology matters little to the dead of 9/11 and all the others killed or maimed by these evil people. They need to be found and rendered harmless and then we can have all those political science grad students looking at the words and writing theses, but first matters first. It is one of the amazing failures of Clinton et al and later Bush et al, that leaves these deadly loonies hanging around their caves or otherwise.

]]> By: Jim http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/09/osama-gives-a-history-lesson/#comment-41785 Jim Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:39:25 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/09/osama-gives-a-history-lesson/#comment-41785 I agree, Neo. No one could ever be quite so ignorant as to believe that is the history. And, I imagine, no one would expect Osama to be savy about such things. So why bring it up? You simplify your opponents. I agree, Neo. No one could ever be quite so ignorant as to believe that is the history. And, I imagine, no one would expect Osama to be savy about such things. So why bring it up? You simplify your opponents.

]]> By: Kevin http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/09/osama-gives-a-history-lesson/#comment-41754 Kevin Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:18:55 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/09/osama-gives-a-history-lesson/#comment-41754 heh, I bet Osama would outscore my 21-year-old niece on the US History CLEP test! heh, I bet Osama would outscore my 21-year-old niece on the US History CLEP test!

]]> By: DC http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/09/osama-gives-a-history-lesson/#comment-41750 DC Mon, 10 Sep 2007 03:17:44 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/09/osama-gives-a-history-lesson/#comment-41750 Neo says: “they [Rumsfeld and McNamara] resembled each other a bit—the wire-rim glasses and the slicked-back hairdo. Maybe to Osama, all white-businessmen-who-later-became-Defense-Secretary look alike.” More on Rumsfeld McNamara similarity-- McNamara was one of the Whiz kids, these were veterans who went to work as executives for Ford Motors,. about the Whiz Kids, Wiki says: “The group was part of a management science operation within the Army Air Force known as Statistical Control, organized to coordinate all the operational and logistical information required to manage the waging of war.” also “they have been criticized for starting the trend of managing by numbers and building corporate bureaucracies, making Top Management a closed environment surrounded with an elitist staff ignorant of the realities of operations and markets, who have only known them by the books or by reports.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiz_Kids Rumsfeld was Gerald Ford’s Secretary of Defense. Although Gerald Ford was from Michigan, the home of Ford motors, his name wasn’t really Ford, he changed his name. Wiki has an article on conspiracy theory. It goes into its role in history and the psychology of it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory#General_arguments_against_conspiracism Neo says:

“they [Rumsfeld and McNamara] resembled each other a bit—the wire-rim glasses and the slicked-back hairdo.
Maybe to Osama, all white-businessmen-who-later-became-Defense-Secretary look alike.”

More on Rumsfeld McNamara similarity–

McNamara was one of the Whiz kids, these were veterans who went to work as executives for Ford Motors,.

about the Whiz Kids, Wiki says:

“The group was part of a management science operation within the Army Air Force known as Statistical Control, organized to coordinate all the operational and logistical information required to manage the waging of war.”

also

“they have been criticized for starting the trend of managing by numbers and building corporate bureaucracies, making Top Management a closed environment surrounded with an elitist staff ignorant of the realities of operations and markets, who have only known them by the books or by reports.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whiz_Kids

Rumsfeld was Gerald Ford’s Secretary of Defense. Although Gerald Ford was from Michigan, the home of Ford motors, his name wasn’t really Ford, he changed his name.

Wiki has an article on conspiracy theory. It goes into its role in history and the psychology of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory#General_arguments_against_conspiracism

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