Comments on: The France 2 trials: the wheels of French justice grind slow… http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/20/the-france-2-trials-the-wheels-of-french-justice-grind-slow/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:11:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: site http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/20/the-france-2-trials-the-wheels-of-french-justice-grind-slow/#comment-45145 site Tue, 30 Oct 2007 05:00:42 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/20/the-france-2-trials-the-wheels-of-french-justice-grind-slow/#comment-45145 <strong>hello...</strong> exellent... hello…

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]]> By: superdupont http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/20/the-france-2-trials-the-wheels-of-french-justice-grind-slow/#comment-44814 superdupont Tue, 23 Oct 2007 14:38:16 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/20/the-france-2-trials-the-wheels-of-french-justice-grind-slow/#comment-44814 http://members.aol.com/bblum6/American_holocaust.htm Worth the visit.... http://members.aol.com/bblum6/American_holocaust.htm Worth the visit….

]]> By: nyomythus http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/20/the-france-2-trials-the-wheels-of-french-justice-grind-slow/#comment-42777 nyomythus Sun, 23 Sep 2007 01:48:30 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/20/the-france-2-trials-the-wheels-of-french-justice-grind-slow/#comment-42777 I was hasty on prehap some of my tone on commenting on the Jena, LA situation; it looks like a clear case of injustice for just about everyone involved; especially for the African-American kids (the six) and their families; what a mess. My apologies. I was hasty on prehap some of my tone on commenting on the Jena, LA situation; it looks like a clear case of injustice for just about everyone involved; especially for the African-American kids (the six) and their families; what a mess. My apologies.

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/20/the-france-2-trials-the-wheels-of-french-justice-grind-slow/#comment-42759 Ymarsakar Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:22:10 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/20/the-france-2-trials-the-wheels-of-french-justice-grind-slow/#comment-42759 <b>The incident and attendant publicity solidified the idea that Israeli soldiers are a brutal lot intent on killing innocent Palestinian children. </b> All the negative consequences of extermination poilicies with none of the positive rewards. Ah, such is the way of war, since after all, this actually did happen in the past. People would accuse their enemies of atrocities and such and often they would manufacture such atrocities and blame it on their enemies. This kind attack would cause psychological shock damage and thus stun the enemy for just long enough to perhaps advance other plans and attack avenues to take and hold ground, territory, or something else of relevant benefit. The incident and attendant publicity solidified the idea that Israeli soldiers are a brutal lot intent on killing innocent Palestinian children.

All the negative consequences of extermination poilicies with none of the positive rewards. Ah, such is the way of war, since after all, this actually did happen in the past. People would accuse their enemies of atrocities and such and often they would manufacture such atrocities and blame it on their enemies. This kind attack would cause psychological shock damage and thus stun the enemy for just long enough to perhaps advance other plans and attack avenues to take and hold ground, territory, or something else of relevant benefit.

]]> By: sergey http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/20/the-france-2-trials-the-wheels-of-french-justice-grind-slow/#comment-42641 sergey Fri, 21 Sep 2007 09:46:05 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/20/the-france-2-trials-the-wheels-of-french-justice-grind-slow/#comment-42641 The main difference between Code Napoleon and British Common Law is that the first was proposed with main intent to defend society, in tradition of French Revolution ("national razor", etc.), while the second to protect individuals. So the first is inherently statist, and the second inherently liberal. The same applies generally to difference between Latin and Anglo-Saxon civilizations. The main difference between Code Napoleon and British Common Law is that the first was proposed with main intent to defend society, in tradition of French Revolution (“national razor”, etc.), while the second to protect individuals. So the first is inherently statist, and the second inherently liberal. The same applies generally to difference between Latin and Anglo-Saxon civilizations.

]]> By: strcpy http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/20/the-france-2-trials-the-wheels-of-french-justice-grind-slow/#comment-42628 strcpy Fri, 21 Sep 2007 05:26:32 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/20/the-france-2-trials-the-wheels-of-french-justice-grind-slow/#comment-42628 It will be interesting to see how far France2 goes in protecting the video. If it shows what they say then I expect it to be handed over quite quickly and with little fan fare - however I suspect that isn't so much the case if for nothing more than they way they have been acting so far. If it shows what the people outside of France2 says they saw I suspect there will many attempts at hiding it. If this were the US there would have to be multiple court orders with little bits here and there released and it would be years before the tape is seen if it wasn't just declared "lost" (better to loose the judgment than allow the video out). I don't know how their legal system handles things, but given what we have seen so far I'm not going to hold my breath on getting the full tape. But then, their courts may have greater jurisdiction to punish things people do to get around some laws than ours does. We would have to prove that things were intentionally lost and that is near impossible to do so the people get a much lesser sentence by doing so (and is why many also "forget" things that they shouldn't - good luck proving that a lie). If their laws run along the lines of the defamation case then France2 would have to prove their innocence or get the harsher ruling - I don't know if that is the case or not. If it does turn out to show what their detractors say I hope the courts fully release it, I for one would like to see it. It will be interesting to see how far France2 goes in protecting the video.

If it shows what they say then I expect it to be handed over quite quickly and with little fan fare – however I suspect that isn’t so much the case if for nothing more than they way they have been acting so far.

If it shows what the people outside of France2 says they saw I suspect there will many attempts at hiding it. If this were the US there would have to be multiple court orders with little bits here and there released and it would be years before the tape is seen if it wasn’t just declared “lost” (better to loose the judgment than allow the video out).

I don’t know how their legal system handles things, but given what we have seen so far I’m not going to hold my breath on getting the full tape. But then, their courts may have greater jurisdiction to punish things people do to get around some laws than ours does. We would have to prove that things were intentionally lost and that is near impossible to do so the people get a much lesser sentence by doing so (and is why many also “forget” things that they shouldn’t – good luck proving that a lie). If their laws run along the lines of the defamation case then France2 would have to prove their innocence or get the harsher ruling – I don’t know if that is the case or not.

If it does turn out to show what their detractors say I hope the courts fully release it, I for one would like to see it.

]]> By: njcommuter http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/20/the-france-2-trials-the-wheels-of-french-justice-grind-slow/#comment-42619 njcommuter Fri, 21 Sep 2007 01:41:21 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/20/the-france-2-trials-the-wheels-of-french-justice-grind-slow/#comment-42619 At least the used-car salesman has a good which may have <i>some</i> value; the race-baiters offer only the orgy of envy, at the price of power and treasure. At least the used-car salesman has a good which may have some value; the race-baiters offer only the orgy of envy, at the price of power and treasure.

]]> By: nyomythus http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/20/the-france-2-trials-the-wheels-of-french-justice-grind-slow/#comment-42613 nyomythus Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:25:50 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/20/the-france-2-trials-the-wheels-of-french-justice-grind-slow/#comment-42613 Speaking of inverted justice, and though the case is multifaceted, look at how many people are not ashamed to stand in solidarity with the loathsome so-called 'Jena Six'. Al Sharpton protecting his steak-n-potatoes; pitting the stupid and gullible against the stupid and gullible. It's amazing how one can combine the low-life entrepreneurial skills of a used car salesman and a reverend to make a living. Speaking of inverted justice, and though the case is multifaceted, look at how many people are not ashamed to stand in solidarity with the loathsome so-called ‘Jena Six’. Al Sharpton protecting his steak-n-potatoes; pitting the stupid and gullible against the stupid and gullible. It’s amazing how one can combine the low-life entrepreneurial skills of a used car salesman and a reverend to make a living.

]]> By: nyomythus http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/20/the-france-2-trials-the-wheels-of-french-justice-grind-slow/#comment-42612 nyomythus Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:20:04 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/20/the-france-2-trials-the-wheels-of-french-justice-grind-slow/#comment-42612 I remember; and with much interest; thank you for the follow up!! I remember; and with much interest; thank you for the follow up!!

]]> By: r4d20 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/20/the-france-2-trials-the-wheels-of-french-justice-grind-slow/#comment-42607 r4d20 Thu, 20 Sep 2007 22:01:57 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/20/the-france-2-trials-the-wheels-of-french-justice-grind-slow/#comment-42607 Lee, Been there, read that, seen the videos, and did, indeed, find the arguments against the simplistic, "official" version compelling. But the truth is that its a <b>circumstantial case and people who claim that circumstantial evidence "proves" anything beyond doubt are the kinds of suckers that conspiracy-minded propagandists love. The tape is coming out. We will soon see if we are right or if we are just the victim of an even better PR campaign than Pallywood.</b> Lee,

Been there, read that, seen the videos, and did, indeed, find the arguments against the simplistic, “official” version compelling.

But the truth is that its a circumstantial case and people who claim that circumstantial evidence “proves” anything beyond doubt are the kinds of suckers that conspiracy-minded propagandists love.

The tape is coming out. We will soon see if we are right or if we are just the victim of an even better PR campaign than Pallywood.

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