Comments on: “Understanding” evil http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/27/understanding-evil/ Tue, 22 May 2012 21:33:06 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Davidus Carvinus http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/27/understanding-evil/#comment-97326 Davidus Carvinus Sat, 27 Dec 2008 19:04:12 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/27/understanding-evil/#comment-97326 Scott Peck wrote that evil could be defined as "live" spelled backwards: that which took away life. On the basis of which he opposed the Vietnam War. But a few pages later he was approving of free choice and abortion rights, without reference to life spelled backwards or forwards. It is no accident that the Me Generation would also be the Subjective Generation. So I ask if subjectivism might be the actual basis of evil. And sure enough, that's how the Bible sees it: If you choose to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge, you will be godlike, deciding for yourself what is good and what is evil. And this cuts us off from the other tree, with its fruit: life. What we fail to appreciate is that we ALL have been deceived and are under the self-delusion and power of evil. And that is the significance of the Light who came into the world, which the darkness did not overcome. Joyeux Noel, y'all. Scott Peck wrote that evil could be defined as “live” spelled backwards: that which took away life. On the basis of which he opposed the Vietnam War. But a few pages later he was approving of free choice and abortion rights, without reference to life spelled backwards or forwards.

It is no accident that the Me Generation would also be the Subjective Generation.

So I ask if subjectivism might be the actual basis of evil. And sure enough, that’s how the Bible sees it: If you choose to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge, you will be godlike, deciding for yourself what is good and what is evil.

And this cuts us off from the other tree, with its fruit: life.

What we fail to appreciate is that we ALL have been deceived and are under the self-delusion and power of evil. And that is the significance of the Light who came into the world, which the darkness did not overcome.

Joyeux Noel, y’all.

]]> By: nyomythus http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/27/understanding-evil/#comment-90104 nyomythus Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:57:55 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/27/understanding-evil/#comment-90104 Where does evil come from? Religion Where does evil come from? Religion

]]> By: Vince P http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/27/understanding-evil/#comment-61593 Vince P Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:43:35 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/27/understanding-evil/#comment-61593 * rolling my eyes at |---||| neocons!!!! |||---| * * rolling my eyes at |—||| neocons!!!! |||—| *

]]> By: Jackie http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/27/understanding-evil/#comment-61591 Jackie Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:20:29 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/27/understanding-evil/#comment-61591 Words and actions determine evil. Correct Evil (words and action) are used to attain, maintain power. Correct Yet your politics support the rise of evil in this country, by the above definitions! But you think this evil is, less than and needed, to confront the greater evil. It's false logic! Hamas wants hard-liners in power, they fight, that Hamas will always fight. But the real question is, will they lead? Is complete appeasement the answer? Of course not. But the Neocons, need the fight as well to stay in power, our lesser evil. This evil has become vicious circle. Words and actions determine evil. Correct

Evil (words and action) are used to attain, maintain power. Correct

Yet your politics support the rise of evil in this country, by the above definitions!

But you think this evil is, less than and needed, to confront the greater evil.

It’s false logic!

Hamas wants hard-liners in power, they fight, that Hamas will always fight. But the real question is, will they lead?

Is complete appeasement the answer? Of course not.

But the Neocons, need the fight as well to stay in power, our lesser evil.

This evil has become vicious circle.

]]> By: Tom Grey - Liberty Dad http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/27/understanding-evil/#comment-60872 Tom Grey - Liberty Dad Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:08:39 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/27/understanding-evil/#comment-60872 Funny to come here months later -- but the issue of Art (Mamet changing his mind, 14 Mar 2008) led me to think of evil. Was too busy working to read or leave comments in Sept. Evil is wanting to do bad to others; to have the power to do bad over others; the willingness to do bad; the desire that bad happens (envy). Even the willingness to do bad "for a greater good". On Berg ... is it possible to "pimp a dead son"? If it's not, then of course daddy Berg can't do it. If it IS possible, what would that mean? What would it look like? I claim it is possible. I think son Berg, like son Sheehan, were defying their parents when the children chose to go to Iraq, go into the military. If so, how the parents are using their grief is a legitimate polite topic of conversation. I don't like the way the parents are betraying the children. Funny to come here months later — but the issue of Art (Mamet changing his mind, 14 Mar 2008) led me to think of evil. Was too busy working to read or leave comments in Sept.

Evil is wanting to do bad to others; to have the power to do bad over others; the willingness to do bad; the desire that bad happens (envy).
Even the willingness to do bad “for a greater good”.

On Berg … is it possible to “pimp a dead son”? If it’s not, then of course daddy Berg can’t do it. If it IS possible, what would that mean? What would it look like?

I claim it is possible. I think son Berg, like son Sheehan, were defying their parents when the children chose to go to Iraq, go into the military. If so, how the parents are using their grief is a legitimate polite topic of conversation. I don’t like the way the parents are betraying the children.

]]> By: FredHjr http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/27/understanding-evil/#comment-60512 FredHjr Mon, 10 Mar 2008 17:31:47 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/27/understanding-evil/#comment-60512 It seems to me that "evil" is a moral category which stands in contrast with its opposite, "the good." Therefore, because we need to resort to philosophy AND theology in order to even consider it a meaningful topic, there are both rational and aesthetic dimensions to it. Moreover, because of its power and its ultimately mysterious nature, it does indeed have a supernatural identity. By its fruits you shall know it. I would further add that evil has a malevolent, cruel, vicious, and sadistic core, that it has to hide by means of deception in order to be deployed in the process of our destruction. I have indeed known evil people. They aren't many. "The banality of evil" only describes a cover, and does not reveal the core of what it is. So much for that. Evil people are deceivers who seek power and domination over others. They ENJOY inflicting harm on people. Their pleasure principle is so opposite of most of us that sometimes it is difficult for normal, healthy people to conceive of it and understand it. In totalitarian societies, many people collaborate with it, but are not necessarily evil people. They are indeed guilty of a host of other sins which serve this monster at the apex of the hierarchy of wickedness. Not every German, Soviet, Chinese, North Vietnamese, North Korean, Cuban, or Muslim member of the 1400 year Ummah is evil. But many are guilty of sloth, pride, greed, cowardice, and a host of other bad traits that make for an easy accommodation with those who pull the levers of power. Evil is corrosive of vitality. It truly is necrophiliac, metaphorically, symbolically, and literally. It seems to me that “evil” is a moral category which stands in contrast with its opposite, “the good.” Therefore, because we need to resort to philosophy AND theology in order to even consider it a meaningful topic, there are both rational and aesthetic dimensions to it. Moreover, because of its power and its ultimately mysterious nature, it does indeed have a supernatural identity. By its fruits you shall know it. I would further add that evil has a malevolent, cruel, vicious, and sadistic core, that it has to hide by means of deception in order to be deployed in the process of our destruction.

I have indeed known evil people. They aren’t many. “The banality of evil” only describes a cover, and does not reveal the core of what it is. So much for that. Evil people are deceivers who seek power and domination over others. They ENJOY inflicting harm on people. Their pleasure principle is so opposite of most of us that sometimes it is difficult for normal, healthy people to conceive of it and understand it.

In totalitarian societies, many people collaborate with it, but are not necessarily evil people. They are indeed guilty of a host of other sins which serve this monster at the apex of the hierarchy of wickedness. Not every German, Soviet, Chinese, North Vietnamese, North Korean, Cuban, or Muslim member of the 1400 year Ummah is evil. But many are guilty of sloth, pride, greed, cowardice, and a host of other bad traits that make for an easy accommodation with those who pull the levers of power.

Evil is corrosive of vitality. It truly is necrophiliac, metaphorically, symbolically, and literally.

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/27/understanding-evil/#comment-43555 Ymarsakar Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:19:12 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/27/understanding-evil/#comment-43555 If the moral authority that Berg Vater got was extremely high because he saw one son die, then when a person ends war by annihilating humanity, including his own family, then that person would achieve Ultimate Dominance in terms of authority and credibility. When he says something is true, his moral position is indefeatable and unchallengeable, for he has lost much and seen much loss. If the moral authority that Berg Vater got was extremely high because he saw one son die, then when a person ends war by annihilating humanity, including his own family, then that person would achieve Ultimate Dominance in terms of authority and credibility. When he says something is true, his moral position is indefeatable and unchallengeable, for he has lost much and seen much loss.

]]> By: Bugs http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/27/understanding-evil/#comment-43549 Bugs Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:51:35 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/27/understanding-evil/#comment-43549 agip - It is a crass idea most recently cooked up - or at least taken out of the fridge and microwaved - by Maureen Dowd. Reason enough not to take it seriously. agip – It is a crass idea most recently cooked up – or at least taken out of the fridge and microwaved – by Maureen Dowd. Reason enough not to take it seriously.

]]> By: agip http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/27/understanding-evil/#comment-43547 agip Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:56:18 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/27/understanding-evil/#comment-43547 Oh, but do either of you gents have an <a href="http://hotair.com/archives/2007/10/02/the-tom-harkin-absolute-moral-authority-card/" rel="nofollow">Absolute Moral Authority <em>Card</em></a>??? Hmmmm???? Ah, I thought not. Oh, but do either of you gents have an Absolute Moral Authority Card??? Hmmmm????

Ah, I thought not.

]]> By: Lee http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/27/understanding-evil/#comment-43541 Lee Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:59:06 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/09/27/understanding-evil/#comment-43541 Hey, wait a minute! I paid good money to some guy downtown to have absolute moral authority in all issues. So why do I now need your approval, Jason? Hey, wait a minute!
I paid good money to some guy downtown to have absolute moral authority in all issues. So why do I now need your approval, Jason?

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