“Neo, I read both your and Dr. Helen’s blog regularly. The comments on Dr. Helen’s blog are not new, they’ve always been like that. I stopped reading the comments there awhile ago because it was rather disturbing. I think Dr.Helen would be better served to just call her blog ‘Place where men can bitch about women’ and be done with it. I’ve also had a few run ins with the good Dr.Herself.”

Right, venting about having their livelihoods’ destroyed and being denied access to their children is “bitching”. Given your indifference to their obvious pain (yes, men can feel pain) I wouldn’t be surprised if your husband ends up “bitching” about you on Helen’s blog.

“I agree with your comments on marriage. I have to believe that most of the people commenting on that blog were not prepared for marriage or relationships in general. One only has to look at how they post about themselves and their former significant others.”

Feminist Translation: When a women wrongs a man he should never under any circumstances say anything the least bit negative about the princess. Any less would indicate a deep seething hatred of women.

“I’m am eternally grateful for my husband. We have a good marriage.

That is not possible for a wymyn who does not know the difference between lamenting a horrible experience of a woman – and the legal system – and an attack on herself. It’s called the victim complex, something Americanwomen(pun intended) have turned into an art form.

It’s not always easy and it takes a lot of personal sacrifice and patience. But we are partners, that’s the key. We both work towards the goal of the relationship. It’s not a contest about who can get the best of who.
I do feel sympathy for some of those posters and hope they get some help for their issues”.*

*not sympathy for what they went through, god no, but sympathy for their “issues”, you know, feeling bad about being betrayed and abandoned by their wives, complaining about being raped by the courts…you know, petty stuff that you should just get over.

After I reading a number of -men-are-angry-and-hate-women post by Americanwomen, Jenny, and Talkincamel I first thought that it was just the typical defensiveness that any harpy queefs up when confronted with the fact that women are less that goddesses. Now I am sure it’s more than that. They are seeing themselves in the mirror. If these wymen were warm, loving, nurturing, caring, and loyal women who didn’t at all resemble the creatures described in men’s horror stories, then the anger and the so called vitriol would just roll off their broad shoulders. When a Dr.Helen angry women hating He-man describes his self-absorbed, abusive, vindictive, frigid, nagging whore of an ex-wife the Harpies motioned above take it personal because they are those women and need to defend themselves accordingly(and in America that means pretending that the man is in the wrong for having the audacity to complain).

There is pain on both sides.

If I dwelt on mine I wouldn’t have my wonderful husband or the beautiful little boy that I do.

But not for the reasons many might gloat over. James Taylor said it pretty good a long time ago. Sweet dreams and flying machines in pieces on the ground.

I”ll make one final attempt to bridge the gulf of misunderstanding between us, then let you have the last word.

What’s in those blog comments isn’t anger, “branding,” or, ludicrously enough, vitriol.

It’s pain.

“At least 7 out of 10 guys I talk to tell me that it is one of the worst mistakes that they ever made. Some tell me not to marry American women, that they are all feminist at heart. One married guy told me that I could get the same effect by selling my house, giving all my money away and having someone castrate me.”

It’s a spontaneous outpouring of agony, the result of decades of systematic abuse. It’s happened on Digg, at the Free Republic, on the website of the Daily Telegraph in Britain, on Dr. Helen’s blog, on Pajamas Media, here, and probably countless other places on the Internet. Anywhere men feel they can tell their stories.

And it’s just the tip of the iceberg. Men who have been humiliated by their wives are reluctant to talk about it. But a critical mass of suffering has been reached, and the Internet is a place its voice can be heard.

No amount of advocacy, activism, or public relations program will change the public perception of men as brutal sexually predating child abusing wife beating pederasts in the face of the Main Stream Media, the education system, Women’s Studies, Oprah Winfrey, Lifetime Network, LMN, EEOC, VAWA, sexual harassment laws, National Organization for Women, etc. ad nauseam.

LabRat illustrates this, obsessed with the thought that some men are physically stronger than some women.
To the exclusion of any rational thought, despite a listing of women who are literal man killers in domestic violence. You can’t argue with that mindset. You can only avoid it.

This isn’t the start of a movement, it’s the end.

As for leveraging women, if they cared about children there wouldn’t be 37% of children born out of wedlock, most to women over 20. An infant would have more than one chance in six of growing up in a home where his biological parents are married and living together.

If women cared about their fathers, brothers, or sons it would never have come to this.

In 2003 the following exchange happened on The Free Republic.

A woman asked, “Why don’t men get themselves out of this mess?”

“They are. They’re not marrying. If women are interested in marriage, then don’t ask men to fix it.
Your response is typical of why this is a trend on the upswing. There are more registered female voters than male voters, and more females are interested in marriage.”

It’s going to get a lot worse.

Meanwhile, divorce lawyers giving this advice to wives.

“Criticize Him Daily …by carving into his ego like a Thanksgiving turkey, you can effectively break down his self-esteem… A man’s self-image is greatly affected by his perception of his virility. If you degrade his sexual ability, you will essentially emasculate him — his entire sense of self-worth will be dismantled.”

It’s all about empowering women.

Branding all American women as out to get men, materialistic, etc. doesn’t help the cause…the good women you want on your team will just withdraw into their happy marriages and think that its only “other men” who have these problems.

All sorts of psychological studies have shown how beneficial to children it is to have a father. This is LEVERAGE. The men’s movement has to come out and show they are PRO-child, and PRO-family. This will subtly indict the women who divorce for frivolous reasons as anti-child (and no mother wants to think of herself this way).

At the same time the men’s movement might want to come down really hard on the *very few* men out there who beat their wives or harm children. But make it known that statistically their numbers are actually quite small–its only television that make the numbers seem larger than they are.

Society won’t try to solve a problem it doesn’t know about.