Comments on: Framing the Rudd election http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/27/framing-the-rudd-election/ Wed, 23 May 2012 05:49:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Vote for Ron Paul http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/27/framing-the-rudd-election/#comment-48735 Vote for Ron Paul Thu, 06 Dec 2007 05:47:58 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/27/framing-the-rudd-election/#comment-48735 Yes Rudd got in and I think it was only because, as you said, the Howard government hads been in a long time. In my opinion it won't take too long for them to stuff up though. The Labour party traditionally has no business people as elected members, and a government is big business. What have we elected? A hodge podge group of teachers and unionists with a few run-down rejects from the media thrown in for good measure. Yes Rudd got in and I think it was only because, as you said, the Howard government hads been in a long time. In my opinion it won’t take too long for them to stuff up though. The Labour party traditionally has no business people as elected members, and a government is big business.

What have we elected? A hodge podge group of teachers and unionists with a few run-down rejects from the media thrown in for good measure.

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/27/framing-the-rudd-election/#comment-47800 Ymarsakar Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:20:22 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/27/framing-the-rudd-election/#comment-47800 Btw, Merkel has her own problems given that she had to jon in a Grand Coalition with SDP to acquire the majority of votes needed for her party to gain the Prime Ministership. That means that SDP is going to be able to campaign while having access to all kinds of government powers and funds. You know what they will do then. Btw, Merkel has her own problems given that she had to jon in a Grand Coalition with SDP to acquire the majority of votes needed for her party to gain the Prime Ministership.

That means that SDP is going to be able to campaign while having access to all kinds of government powers and funds. You know what they will do then.

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/27/framing-the-rudd-election/#comment-47799 Ymarsakar Thu, 29 Nov 2007 20:18:14 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/27/framing-the-rudd-election/#comment-47799 Let us not forget, Neo, that the Brits also kicked Churchill's party out after the war was over. People are just so ungrateful. Let us not forget, Neo, that the Brits also kicked Churchill’s party out after the war was over. People are just so ungrateful.

]]> By: neo-neocon http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/27/framing-the-rudd-election/#comment-47770 neo-neocon Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:55:37 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/27/framing-the-rudd-election/#comment-47770 jimmy: I wonder why it is that you confuse my criticism of the MSM for omitting relevant facts that disagree with the line <i>the MSM</i> wishes to present with "trashing" the press for disagreeing with the "Neocon line." Anyone who reads me should perceive that I have an interest in looking at issues in depth, rather than following any "line," neocon or other. You may not agree with my conclusions or my point of view, but please don't insult me by accusing me of following in lockstep with a party line of some sort. jimmy: I wonder why it is that you confuse my criticism of the MSM for omitting relevant facts that disagree with the line the MSM wishes to present with “trashing” the press for disagreeing with the “Neocon line.”

Anyone who reads me should perceive that I have an interest in looking at issues in depth, rather than following any “line,” neocon or other. You may not agree with my conclusions or my point of view, but please don’t insult me by accusing me of following in lockstep with a party line of some sort.

]]> By: jimmy http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/27/framing-the-rudd-election/#comment-47716 jimmy Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:02:45 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/27/framing-the-rudd-election/#comment-47716 Blair's time was up, Iraq or no Iraq, though everyone knows that favor for him had dissipated due to the Iraq war. And now the Australians are gone. Whose left? There's that little country in Eastern Europe called.... Bulgaria? Quite a coalition of the willing, huh? And please, can we stop trashing the press just because it doesn't usually agree with the Neocon line? Where is the press that's bringing good news about this war? Are they all delusional? I'm willing to listen. Can they all be liberal scallywags? Blair’s time was up, Iraq or no Iraq, though everyone knows that favor for him had dissipated due to the Iraq war. And now the Australians are gone. Whose left? There’s that little country in Eastern Europe called…. Bulgaria? Quite a coalition of the willing, huh?

And please, can we stop trashing the press just because it doesn’t usually agree with the Neocon line? Where is the press that’s bringing good news about this war? Are they all delusional? I’m willing to listen. Can they all be liberal scallywags?

]]> By: Xanthippas http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/27/framing-the-rudd-election/#comment-47571 Xanthippas Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:52:31 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/27/framing-the-rudd-election/#comment-47571 <i>What does that make the people who read newspapers and watch TV news?</i> Well, if we're talking about Fox viewers, the answer is "content." What does that make the people who read newspapers and watch TV news?

Well, if we’re talking about Fox viewers, the answer is “content.”

]]> By: Xanthippas http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/27/framing-the-rudd-election/#comment-47570 Xanthippas Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:51:39 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/27/framing-the-rudd-election/#comment-47570 <i>Last time I looked he won the last election he fought in the UK and retired undefeated handing over the role of prime minister by agreement to a chosen successor. Who has continued to keep British troops in Iraq and Afghanistan in support of the US.</i> Boy, that's a spin job if I've ever read one. Blair handed his job over to a successor because nobody wanted him in power any longer. And you are clever to state that British troops are remaining in Iraq, when in fact all that will be left will be a residual force as most of the British troops go home. Last time I looked he won the last election he fought in the UK and retired undefeated handing over the role of prime minister by agreement to a chosen successor. Who has continued to keep British troops in Iraq and Afghanistan in support of the US.

Boy, that’s a spin job if I’ve ever read one. Blair handed his job over to a successor because nobody wanted him in power any longer. And you are clever to state that British troops are remaining in Iraq, when in fact all that will be left will be a residual force as most of the British troops go home.

]]> By: johnr http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/27/framing-the-rudd-election/#comment-47566 johnr Wed, 28 Nov 2007 17:41:49 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/27/framing-the-rudd-election/#comment-47566 Sorry, what was the electoral defeat of Tony Blair that you referred to ? Last time I looked he won the last election he fought in the UK and retired undefeated handing over the role of prime minister by agreement to a chosen successor. Who has continued to keep British troops in Iraq and Afghanistan in support of the US. Sorry, what was the electoral defeat of Tony Blair that you referred to ? Last time I looked he won the last election he fought in the UK and retired undefeated handing over the role of prime minister by agreement to a chosen successor. Who has continued to keep British troops in Iraq and Afghanistan in support of the US.

]]> By: Promethea http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/27/framing-the-rudd-election/#comment-47563 Promethea Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:53:11 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/27/framing-the-rudd-election/#comment-47563 Regarding the Chicago Tribune, it can't really be called conservative or liberal. It's all over the map, mainly the map of ignorance, and it has many clueless columnists who write a lot of pap. Its reporting on the Middle East is just pathetic. Once in a while it has a decent column from Victor Davis Hanson or Charles Krauthammer. Regarding the Chicago Tribune, it can’t really be called conservative or liberal. It’s all over the map, mainly the map of ignorance, and it has many clueless columnists who write a lot of pap. Its reporting on the Middle East is just pathetic. Once in a while it has a decent column from Victor Davis Hanson or Charles Krauthammer.

]]> By: Sally http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/27/framing-the-rudd-election/#comment-47554 Sally Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:49:25 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/11/27/framing-the-rudd-election/#comment-47554 <i>What does that make the people who read newspapers and watch TV news?</i> Trim says sad and angry. I just say skeptical. But that only applies to those who do understand that headlines are simple, and that (many) reporters are simpletons or biased, or both. What does that make the people who read newspapers and watch TV news?

Trim says sad and angry. I just say skeptical. But that only applies to those who do understand that headlines are simple, and that (many) reporters are simpletons or biased, or both.

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