Comments on: Bhutto: into the jaws of death http://neoneocon.com/2007/12/27/bhutto-into-the-jaws-of-death/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 16:40:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Erik Kain http://neoneocon.com/2007/12/27/bhutto-into-the-jaws-of-death/#comment-52065 Erik Kain Sun, 06 Jan 2008 05:21:51 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/12/27/bhutto-into-the-jaws-of-death/#comment-52065 I heard the news in my car on my way to work. I didn't even hear her name, but I knew it must be her when they mentioned a female had been assassinated. I felt no surprise either. It was inevitable, really, and very sad. Regardless of her corruption, she was, as you said, quite brave, and this is just one more sign of Pakistan's fall into darkness. I heard the news in my car on my way to work. I didn’t even hear her name, but I knew it must be her when they mentioned a female had been assassinated. I felt no surprise either. It was inevitable, really, and very sad.

Regardless of her corruption, she was, as you said, quite brave, and this is just one more sign of Pakistan’s fall into darkness.

]]> By: Richard Aubrey http://neoneocon.com/2007/12/27/bhutto-into-the-jaws-of-death/#comment-51337 Richard Aubrey Mon, 31 Dec 2007 03:44:05 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/12/27/bhutto-into-the-jaws-of-death/#comment-51337 Bhutto was marketed as a moderate Muslim leader. Presumably, she was, all her baggage notwithstanding. It's probably inevitable that a moderate Muslim leader will have that kind of baggage. Innyways, a moderate Muslim leader went into a genuinely Muslim country. Bhutto was marketed as a moderate Muslim leader. Presumably, she was, all her baggage notwithstanding. It’s probably inevitable that a moderate Muslim leader will have that kind of baggage.
Innyways, a moderate Muslim leader went into a genuinely Muslim country.

]]> By: Perfected democrat http://neoneocon.com/2007/12/27/bhutto-into-the-jaws-of-death/#comment-51143 Perfected democrat Sat, 29 Dec 2007 05:46:05 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/12/27/bhutto-into-the-jaws-of-death/#comment-51143 and one of the reasons they're becoming more emboldened; bizarro land, where al turns your adversaries into fools, reinforcing that deeply inculcated sense of superiority.... the american left then jumps on the bandwagon that it's bush's fault, there was no problem in iraq until bush invaded.... truly a fool's game..... and one of the reasons they’re becoming more emboldened; bizarro land, where al turns your adversaries into fools, reinforcing that deeply inculcated sense of superiority…. the american left then jumps on the bandwagon that it’s bush’s fault, there was no problem in iraq until bush invaded…. truly a fool’s game…..

]]> By: Vince P http://neoneocon.com/2007/12/27/bhutto-into-the-jaws-of-death/#comment-51121 Vince P Sat, 29 Dec 2007 01:10:31 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/12/27/bhutto-into-the-jaws-of-death/#comment-51121 Mo's soldiers have to really love the Europeans.... Some of those idiots actually work up enough emotion to break down in hysterics thinking about global warming... the Mohemmedans must think they're in bizarro land. Mo’s soldiers have to really love the Europeans…. Some of those idiots actually work up enough emotion to break down in hysterics thinking about global warming… the Mohemmedans must think they’re in bizarro land.

]]> By: Occam's Beard http://neoneocon.com/2007/12/27/bhutto-into-the-jaws-of-death/#comment-51119 Occam's Beard Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:34:11 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/12/27/bhutto-into-the-jaws-of-death/#comment-51119 Kinda like refusing a last cigarette before facing a firing squad for fear of getting lung cancer. Kinda like refusing a last cigarette before facing a firing squad for fear of getting lung cancer.

]]> By: Perfected democrat http://neoneocon.com/2007/12/27/bhutto-into-the-jaws-of-death/#comment-51116 Perfected democrat Sat, 29 Dec 2007 00:15:38 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/12/27/bhutto-into-the-jaws-of-death/#comment-51116 Some people think global warming is the more immediately compelling problem.... after all, San Diego will be under water in 3 decades.... Mo's soldiers must be half laughing, and half salivating....." Some people think global warming is the more immediately compelling problem…. after all, San Diego will be under water in 3 decades…. Mo’s soldiers must be half laughing, and half salivating…..”

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://neoneocon.com/2007/12/27/bhutto-into-the-jaws-of-death/#comment-51094 Ymarsakar Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:46:44 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/12/27/bhutto-into-the-jaws-of-death/#comment-51094 Watch Naruto and Bleach for other entertaining and surprising takes on "gotta get 'em all". Watch Naruto and Bleach for other entertaining and surprising takes on “gotta get ‘em all”.

]]> By: Occam's Beard http://neoneocon.com/2007/12/27/bhutto-into-the-jaws-of-death/#comment-51092 Occam's Beard Fri, 28 Dec 2007 19:03:11 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/12/27/bhutto-into-the-jaws-of-death/#comment-51092 Sorry about the funky formatting. Sorry about the funky formatting.

]]> By: Occam's Beard http://neoneocon.com/2007/12/27/bhutto-into-the-jaws-of-death/#comment-51089 Occam's Beard Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:23:38 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/12/27/bhutto-into-the-jaws-of-death/#comment-51089 Well said, Y. My only comment was that reading <i>first you had to kill <b>“most.</b> of them” before any social problems could be solved</i> put me in mind of my sons' Pokemon cartoons, the theme song of which says "gotta get 'em all." Well said, Y. My only comment was that reading

first you had to kill “most.
of them” before any social problems could be solved

put me in mind of my sons’ Pokemon cartoons, the theme song of which says “gotta get ‘em all.”

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://neoneocon.com/2007/12/27/bhutto-into-the-jaws-of-death/#comment-51088 Ymarsakar Fri, 28 Dec 2007 18:16:13 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2007/12/27/bhutto-into-the-jaws-of-death/#comment-51088 <b>In foresight and now in hindsight, Bhutto’s judgment to trust or tempt fate was shortsighted and risky for the democratic process</b> An indication of the worth of her judgement once she was in power. <b>You exculpate the killers when you say she should not have been speaking in public, it was her right</b> Rights exist because Americans killed and died to defend those rights. Who has Benazir Bhutto killed to defend such rights? Dying is not enough really. Any slave or serf can die trying to get the right of self-expression. They won't achieve it without armed force, though. <b>democracy dies when you can’t face that which threatens liberty (brings the Boston Massacre to mind).</b> Democracy is dying in Lebanon regardless of how many people face up to their assassins and die in the bombs that occur. Or maybe because of it. Dying in the pursuit of liberty is not enough. It has never been enough. <b>Saying that society should have locked up or executed a twice-convicted murderer does not excuse his third murder.</b> This is not about excusing people's actions. This is about taking the consequences of your own actions. Bhutto made choices and these are the consequences of her choices. It would not have changed in principle if she had lived and came to power in Pakistan. She still would have made choices and had consequences spring from such choices. <b>pretending that abbas is not just one of mo’s dedicated soldiers, like albright negotiating with kim, clinton with arafat, the fool and the huckster</b> As I said, liberty is defended not just by dying in its pursuit but by killing its enemies. One of the relatives of Bhutto was recently on the Sanity Squad. She wanted to work with the terrorists in the north/west of Pakistan on social problems. My solution was "first you had to kill most of them" before any social problems could be solved. In foresight and now in hindsight, Bhutto’s judgment to trust or tempt fate was shortsighted and risky for the democratic process

An indication of the worth of her judgement once she was in power.

You exculpate the killers when you say she should not have been speaking in public, it was her right

Rights exist because Americans killed and died to defend those rights. Who has Benazir Bhutto killed to defend such rights? Dying is not enough really. Any slave or serf can die trying to get the right of self-expression. They won’t achieve it without armed force, though.

democracy dies when you can’t face that which threatens liberty (brings the Boston Massacre to mind).

Democracy is dying in Lebanon regardless of how many people face up to their assassins and die in the bombs that occur. Or maybe because of it.

Dying in the pursuit of liberty is not enough. It has never been enough.

Saying that society should have locked up or executed a twice-convicted murderer does not excuse his third murder.

This is not about excusing people’s actions. This is about taking the consequences of your own actions. Bhutto made choices and these are the consequences of her choices. It would not have changed in principle if she had lived and came to power in Pakistan. She still would have made choices and had consequences spring from such choices.

pretending that abbas is not just one of mo’s dedicated soldiers, like albright negotiating with kim, clinton with arafat, the fool and the huckster

As I said, liberty is defended not just by dying in its pursuit but by killing its enemies.

One of the relatives of Bhutto was recently on the Sanity Squad. She wanted to work with the terrorists in the north/west of Pakistan on social problems. My solution was “first you had to kill most of them” before any social problems could be solved.

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