Comments on: Missing the Big Story in Iraq http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/02/missing-the-big-story-in-iraq/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:27:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Vince P http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/02/missing-the-big-story-in-iraq/#comment-52472 Vince P Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:52:20 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/02/missing-the-big-story-in-iraq/#comment-52472 If anyone wants a good global scale of the conflict the world finds itself in today vis a vis Islam, check out these: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKne9k08iNc 2miin 49sec the "meat" is at to 4min 40sec http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vypKSWHlnKA I recommend the whole thing but the "meat" is at 5min 11sec Plus I plotted jihad attacks 2003 - Jan 2007 here http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312/attacks.html If anyone wants a good global scale of the conflict the world finds itself in today vis a vis Islam, check out these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKne9k08iNc

2miin 49sec
the “meat” is at to 4min 40sec

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vypKSWHlnKA
I recommend the whole thing
but the “meat” is at 5min 11sec

Plus I plotted jihad attacks 2003 – Jan 2007 here
http://home.comcast.net/~vincep312/attacks.html

]]> By: q2600 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/02/missing-the-big-story-in-iraq/#comment-52230 q2600 Mon, 07 Jan 2008 18:40:16 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/02/missing-the-big-story-in-iraq/#comment-52230 I was going to respond to some previous posts, but there's just too much. Briefly, I will state that, in my opionin, the United States of America IS engaged in a religious war in the middle east. It's just that OUR religion--being definitively outside the mandate of government--has nothing to do with it. Somewhere above someone disputed Islam's bid to world domination on the basis that the "only" 1.5 billion Muslims would have a lot of converting to do to dominate the world. This is true, but they aren't focussed on achieving in a single lifetime. Check out some maps of Islamic territory over time and see how it expands through conquest. While I generally agree with Vince P's assertions, I must insist that the Q'ran was NOT imparted to the Arabs by Satan. It was constructed sura by sura at need by a bullish, pedophilic thug who found religiosity to be the perfect vehicle for his inhuman cruelty and lust. Well, maybe Muhammed WAS Satan, after all... I was going to respond to some previous posts, but there’s just too much. Briefly, I will state that, in my opionin, the United States of America IS engaged in a religious war in the middle east. It’s just that OUR religion–being definitively outside the mandate of government–has nothing to do with it.
Somewhere above someone disputed Islam’s bid to world domination on the basis that the “only” 1.5 billion Muslims would have a lot of converting to do to dominate the world. This is true, but they aren’t focussed on achieving in a single lifetime. Check out some maps of Islamic territory over time and see how it expands through conquest.
While I generally agree with Vince P’s assertions, I must insist that the Q’ran was NOT imparted to the Arabs by Satan. It was constructed sura by sura at need by a bullish, pedophilic thug who found religiosity to be the perfect vehicle for his inhuman cruelty and lust.

Well, maybe Muhammed WAS Satan, after all…

]]> By: Ancient History and Our Funny Ancestors « Sake White http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/02/missing-the-big-story-in-iraq/#comment-52219 Ancient History and Our Funny Ancestors « Sake White Mon, 07 Jan 2008 16:50:15 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/02/missing-the-big-story-in-iraq/#comment-52219 [...] 7, 2008 Posted by ymarsakar in History. trackback  [This is a comment in reply to Neo’s post and the barrage of comments there. It is more user friendly than other things I have written on [...] [...] 7, 2008 Posted by ymarsakar in History. trackback  [This is a comment in reply to Neo’s post and the barrage of comments there. It is more user friendly than other things I have written on [...]

]]> By: Truth http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/02/missing-the-big-story-in-iraq/#comment-52162 Truth Mon, 07 Jan 2008 01:29:21 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/02/missing-the-big-story-in-iraq/#comment-52162 Jack Schwager Says: <i><b>Does Vince P get paid by bin Laden,</b></i> <a HREF="http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070205/pollitt" rel="nofollow"> Ayatollah D'Souza</a> Jack Schwager Says:
Does Vince P get paid by bin Laden,

Ayatollah D’Souza

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/02/missing-the-big-story-in-iraq/#comment-52115 Ymarsakar Sun, 06 Jan 2008 17:34:10 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/02/missing-the-big-story-in-iraq/#comment-52115 <b>So both sides make themselves from the suffering of Arab or others no matter which war Gray.</b> Did Truth just say that Michael Yon makes his living from the suffering of Arabs? So both sides make themselves from the suffering of Arab or others no matter which war Gray.

Did Truth just say that Michael Yon makes his living from the suffering of Arabs?

]]> By: No News is Good News: The Turning Tide in Iraq « NeoThink http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/02/missing-the-big-story-in-iraq/#comment-52103 No News is Good News: The Turning Tide in Iraq « NeoThink Sun, 06 Jan 2008 15:04:50 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/02/missing-the-big-story-in-iraq/#comment-52103 [...] this excellent article on the subject over at neoneocon.com.  It highlights the fact that our major news media is all [...] [...] this excellent article on the subject over at neoneocon.com.  It highlights the fact that our major news media is all [...]

]]> By: Truth http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/02/missing-the-big-story-in-iraq/#comment-52097 Truth Sun, 06 Jan 2008 12:56:41 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/02/missing-the-big-story-in-iraq/#comment-52097 Gray you missed the main key point in our discussion here. My The discussion did not argue I am right or left, neither the reporters/links to judge me left or right, off course its your view which I disagree, but the point is what in the Felicity’s report contents about Iraq and Iraqis were been and where are now forgot the years of lunatic man and his mentality and wars, but the level Iraq were till 1979 and before that the key point I try to make and show some friends here who put Iraq Afghanistan in same level which far from the truth. Off course Gray Iraq third world country for Americans looks different. So if you have any reference telling the opposite please do show us or if you have any other reports let take a look to it. The matter is not those "<i> weird old white people</i> here, the case also still valid of the other side like <a href="http://michaelyon-online.com/wp/" rel="nofollow">Michael Yon</a> or <a href="http://www.newamerica.net/people/nir_rosen" rel="nofollow">Nir Rosen</a> when he was a child he had "dreamed of joining <a href="http://jarrarsupariver.blogspot.com/2006/11/education-of-nir-rosen.html" rel="nofollow">Israel's elitie special forces</a>." So both sides make themselves from the suffering of Arab or others no matter which war Gray. Jimmy J. Says: <i><b>3. If you are Muslim, do you agree that it is the duty of all Muslims to convert or kill non-believers?</b></i> I am relevant here, but please read <a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1310/is_20060604/ai_11863991" rel="nofollow">Islamic history </a> will give you more answers and clear picture of Islam and what this religion adds to civilization. May I pick your attention Arab countries have Christian and Jews till now between them living together and more Iran (One of Axis of Evil) and regarded as aggressive Mullah regime and extremist there are 20,000 Jews there in addition to Christians. You need to think about it before believing what hatemongering telling. Gray you missed the main key point in our discussion here.
My The discussion did not argue I am right or left, neither the reporters/links to judge me left or right, off course its your view which I disagree, but the point is what in the Felicity’s report contents about Iraq and Iraqis were been and where are now forgot the years of lunatic man and his mentality and wars, but the level Iraq were till 1979 and before that the key point I try to make and show some friends here who put Iraq Afghanistan in same level which far from the truth. Off course Gray Iraq third world country for Americans looks different.

So if you have any reference telling the opposite please do show us or if you have any other reports let take a look to it.

The matter is not those “ weird old white people here, the case also still valid of the other side like Michael Yon or Nir Rosen when he was a child he had “dreamed of joining Israel’s elitie special forces.”

So both sides make themselves from the suffering of Arab or others no matter which war Gray.

Jimmy J. Says:
3. If you are Muslim, do you agree that it is the duty of all Muslims to convert or kill non-believers?

I am relevant here, but please read Islamic history will give you more answers and clear picture of Islam and what this religion adds to civilization.

May I pick your attention Arab countries have Christian and Jews till now between them living together and more Iran (One of Axis of Evil) and regarded as aggressive Mullah regime and extremist there are 20,000 Jews there in addition to Christians.

You need to think about it before believing what hatemongering telling.

]]> By: Gray http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/02/missing-the-big-story-in-iraq/#comment-52059 Gray Sun, 06 Jan 2008 03:38:23 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/02/missing-the-big-story-in-iraq/#comment-52059 <i>Anyway your choose to understand what I am trying to do and to convey my views in this way.</i> Felicity Arbuthnot isn't from Korea. She's a weird old hippy from Britain. John Pilger is a weird old hippy from Australia. They don't care about arabs or the Middle East, they just hate America and Britain. They aren't your friends. They are weird old white people who will use arab suffering to advance their own leftist agendas! They love arab suffering because it advances their cause. They miss the Soviet Union. I think you are more pro-leftist than pro-arab, and that's a shame. Ralph Peters isn't a neocon. I've met him, he's not even very conservative, but he's right sometimes.... Anyway your choose to understand what I am trying to do and to convey my views in this way.

Felicity Arbuthnot isn’t from Korea. She’s a weird old hippy from Britain. John Pilger is a weird old hippy from Australia.

They don’t care about arabs or the Middle East, they just hate America and Britain.

They aren’t your friends. They are weird old white people who will use arab suffering to advance their own leftist agendas! They love arab suffering because it advances their cause.

They miss the Soviet Union.

I think you are more pro-leftist than pro-arab, and that’s a shame.

Ralph Peters isn’t a neocon. I’ve met him, he’s not even very conservative, but he’s right sometimes….

]]> By: Truth http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/02/missing-the-big-story-in-iraq/#comment-52058 Truth Sun, 06 Jan 2008 02:46:32 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/02/missing-the-big-story-in-iraq/#comment-52058 <i><b>I enjoy your talk about arab self-determination and fighting both the Mad Mullah’s “and their ilks” and the Corrupt Princes, but Pilger and Stupid Felicity are just European Leftists.</b></i> Gary same argument I applied to this post, if you consider Ralph Peters and Michael Totten as neocone guys so it’s same. But if you go back and read my comments is to bring broad view what’s going and what’s Iraq was and all the info. You should care and consider what in the links I posted and try to discussing the contents but if you stick to run after who right this or that then we wasting our time as if all issue here is where is the truth in all of this war and what’s happening now in Iraq and how to get think sort out for better for both side in this war. Its not matter left and right folks here, but in my mind people like Felicity Arbuthnot from Korea and others may be china and other countries when they right its easy to say those view more independent and based that US or Iraq reporters and views. Anyway your choose to understand what I am trying to do and to convey my views in this way. I enjoy your talk about arab self-determination and fighting both the Mad Mullah’s “and their ilks” and the Corrupt Princes, but Pilger and Stupid Felicity are just European Leftists.

Gary same argument I applied to this post, if you consider Ralph Peters and Michael Totten as neocone guys so it’s same.

But if you go back and read my comments is to bring broad view what’s going and what’s Iraq was and all the info.

You should care and consider what in the links I posted and try to discussing the contents but if you stick to run after who right this or that then we wasting our time as if all issue here is where is the truth in all of this war and what’s happening now in Iraq and how to get think sort out for better for both side in this war.

Its not matter left and right folks here, but in my mind people like Felicity Arbuthnot from Korea and others may be china and other countries when they right its easy to say those view more independent and based that US or Iraq reporters and views.

Anyway your choose to understand what I am trying to do and to convey my views in this way.

]]> By: Jimmy J. http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/02/missing-the-big-story-in-iraq/#comment-52057 Jimmy J. Sun, 06 Jan 2008 02:35:30 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/02/missing-the-big-story-in-iraq/#comment-52057 "...........So Islam is Islam…. Muslims are people who run the spectrum from secular/cultural Muslims to dangerous devout Muslims.” Okay Vince, I get the distinction you are making. Sorry to push you on the issue, but I was not getting your point. I learned something from the exchange. Thanks. “………..So Islam is Islam…. Muslims are people who run the spectrum from secular/cultural Muslims to dangerous devout Muslims.”

Okay Vince, I get the distinction you are making. Sorry to push you on the issue, but I was not getting your point. I learned something from the exchange. Thanks.

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