They are, as other Iraqis, but what triggered the area is those pictures that Backwater guys, and the reactionary collective punishment that US forces did in the area which triggered and killed more civilians and destroyed a town with almost 250,000, this created a recruit ground for terrorists and their mad ilk’s.

Apparently not. Wishing for it won’t make it happen.

So the point is Ralph Peters should be treated with cautious
as far as his views about ME

More about Ralph Peters

“In place of the civil war that elements in our media declared, I saw full streets, open shops, traffic jams, donkey carts, Muslim holiday flags - and children everywhere, waving as our Humvees passed,” he recalled.
“Even the clouds of dust we stirred up didn’t deter them. And the presence of children in the streets is the best possible indicator of a low threat level.”
So, why is the U.S. press full of reports that Iraq is spinning into chaos?
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/5/121111.shtml

Are you arguing that arabs like the borders drawn artbitrarily by the British Empire after WWI?

It’s Margaret Bell’s goofy borders that split up and consolidated a lot of tribal land in Iraq!

I met Ralph Peters a few times when I was in the Army and I’ve read his books. He is a thoughful, educated and sincere retired officer and gentleman.

Jonson, you’re raving. I went through a crappy divorce too, get over it. Life gets better….

Good post Neo. I love it when you give the media hell!

I have been interviewed before and I have been party to events that were later reported (no, I’m not telling) and I assure you, they never get anything right not even the names and places.

I can further tell you that I knew more than a few journalism and ‘communications’ majors in college and they were uniformly the stupidest and least curious people I have ever met.

TE Lawrence and Bell both had much to say about how the ME would never be peaceful again.

It is unethical to report news that would bolster the morale of your enemies and discourage your allies, Neo.

the fact is that once that position was taken and hammered home over many months and years, to turn back would require a massive course correction.

They never disagreed with Bush’s staying the course rhetoric, on principle. It just so happens to be that even if an enemy has things right on principle, you can’t and shouldn’t admit it in public for morale reasons. They are still the enemy; enemies that must be destroyed. And it makes your job of destroying the enemy harder if you take their side. So why would the media help Bush when their job is to do the exact opposite? To turn back and alter their course is to admit defeat to the enemy.

If you read Totten’s work, you’ll see all is not sweetness and light in Fallujah. Corruption still exists, as does some violence.

The best you can expect from the media is that they ignore you.

To expect anything more would be like expecting a tiger to refuse to eat meat, Neo.

You can be cynical and skeptical about this if you like. In fact, as Totten’s piece indicates, the Marines themselves are careful to maintain a hefty dose of wariness because—as their signs point out—”complacency kills.”

Tea meets and greets are nice but one can never forget that this is war, not a social party.

And the point to war is to kill the enemy, not have fun.

What else do you expect? Is Hitler supposed to now, all of a sudden, devote his life to saving Jews instead of exterminating them? You cannot expect a man’s fundamental behavior to change when you have not changed the nature of a man.

I can further tell you that I knew more than a few journalism and ‘communications’ majors in college and they were uniformly the stupidest and least curious people I have ever met.

You can’t run a propaganda and psychological warfare operation with people that keep opening their mouths to ask inconvenient questions about classified information that they don’t have a need to know.

Not having curiosity is a virtue in the media.

Btw, anything that our side releases for public consumption and could be beneficial for individuals to know, is classified data to the media. So they have no problems covering things up, modifying data, and not telling the whole truth. That’s how intel and counter-espionage operations are run, for the most part. Deception is the point of the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EEDBMhVusk

This guy is right on about the threat we’re facing.

“A turning point in America, certain things said that would not have been acceptable to say a few years ago are received with thundering applause today. United American Committee’s Jim Horn addresses 1,800 people at the National Federation of Republican Women convention September 2007″

Motherless those with low IQ mind hard to them to understand this tact called Divide and Conquer as Imperial Rules

However, from gertrudebell.com:

Adventurer, archaeologist and arabist, Gertrude Bell (1868-1926) was a counsellor to Lloyd George and Winston Churchill, and a confidante of sheikhs. To T E Lawrence she was ‘Gerty,’ and he was her ‘Little One.’ She cut a unique figure in the turbulent politics of the Middle East at the turn of last century.

Instrumental in defining modern Iraq’s borders, and in choosing its first king, she was generally considered the most powerful woman in the British Empire.

Wikipedia says:

Bell’s influence led to the creation of a country inhabited by a Shi’ite majority in the south, and Sunni and Kurdish minorities in the center and north respectively. By denying the Sunni Kurds a separate, autonomous area or state, the British tried to balance the heavy predominance of Shi’ites in Iraq and keep control of the potential oilfields in their territory.

And that’s what we’ve got now.

The sources I find on the web just flat out say: “She drew the map of modern Iraq”.

TE Lawrence and Bell both had much to say about how the ME would never be peaceful again.

Sure, not without a Caliphate….

But its moral to full the media with ugly pic’s and dead bodies of Iraqis showing the horrifying people because of the war, or cheering live launching of Tomahawk missiles on civilians in Iraq just as a game and internments for the viewers who pay FOX, CNN and others, but when pictures of captured US pilots on TV its against UN regulations, POW regulations and human rights and its immoral and a big crime.

Wonder how many standards and personalities some holding with their naive souls?

“Wonkette” is not a credible source. She’s an imbecile and, by her writing, clearly holds arabs in contempt.

hard to them to understand this tact called Divide and Conquer as Imperial Rules

So you don’t like the British Boundaries of Iraq?

You want us to leave arabs alone and save them at the same time.

One thing missing here A SPY!!

Certainly, those are our pilots You’re an arab, you understand….

Don’t pretend to be naive yourself.

Adviser Has President’s Ear as She Keeps Eyes on Iraq

Of course: The Turks lost the war and the Caliphate was divided up among the victors–just like arabs.

“who colleagues say is instrumental in shaping Mr. Bush’s views: Meghan L. O’Sullivan, the 36-year-old deputy national security adviser for Iraq and Afghanistan, and the most senior official working on those nations full time at the White House.”

Well, at least she’s not a weird old hippy. What’s the problem?

Hah,

Very clear racist and very sick. Well done dude the supporter of freedom and democracy and saving Iraqis from tyrant regime hah?

Abu Griab specks more of your mind then. Yes those Arab!!

Tell us what God gave you more to be better than Arab? One leg more , no one eye more, no open mind, oh yes full of sickness views

No, those sick people are in military jail.

Of course we ask for our pilots not to be beaten and humiliated, they are our pilots.

Read my comment well, I did not having problem, go read what I said.

WHAT’S YOUR PROBLEM?

You trying hardly manipulating the words and views here

OK. That is a good thing if she is advising Bush and has an understanding of Arab culture and politics like a “Khatun” in court.

Read my comment well, I did not having problem, go read what I said.

I’m sorry if I didn’t understand your message.

God gave us the Bible.

Satan gave the Arabs the Koran.

The results speak for themselves.

Are you supporting his view?

What action then you should do to show this guy his limits and stop his sick views with disgusting words about other race and humans.

Satan gave the Arabs the Koran.

I don’t think that is Right: The Koran has many, many Biblical and Christian ideas. It recognizes Jesus (Issa) and Moses (Musa) as Holy Men.

Just this past Christmas, Shi’ite and Sunni alike came to Christmas services to show solidarity with Iraqi Christians.

You’re comment is unhelpful and untrue.

But if you’re talking about Kurdish Yezidi, or Yaresan, that’s a different issue….

Here is what the Muslims believe will happen…. please I hope this Isa never comes down.

Sorry, I have a full understanding of Islam and I will speak the truth about it.

According to Surah 2:177, A Muslim must accept all these things:

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It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces to the East and the West; but righteous is he who believeth in Allah and the Last Day and the angels and the Scripture and the prophets

The Last Day is the most important thing after belief in Allah.

The Last Day consists of the coming of the Imam Mahdi along with the appearance of the Muslim Jesus. For the Last Day to come, the Muslims must go to war and slaughter the Jews

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The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

But the Muslims don’t stop there.. once that’s accomplished:

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al-Mahdi will receive a pledge of allegiance as a caliph for Muslims. He will lead Muslims in many battles of jihad. His reign will be a caliphate that follows the guidance of the Prophet. Many battles will ensue between Muslims and the disbelievers during the Mahdi’s reign…

Harun Yahya, a moderate and very popular Muslim author refers to the Mahdi’s invasion of numerous non-Muslim lands:

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The Mahdi will invade all the places between East and West.

In today’s world.. non-Muslims are not killed or forced to convert if they pay the Jizya in Muslim lands and agree to live as dhimmis. Well apparently even that wonderful option will be eliminated during the Muslim Last Day. I’m assuming the pigs in this quote means Jews.

Volume 3, Book 43, Number 656: Narrated Abu Huraira:

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Allah’s Apostle said, “The Hour will not be established until the son of Mary (i.e. Jesus) descends amongst you as a just ruler, he will break the cross, kill the pigs, and abolish the Jizya tax. Money will be in abundance so that nobody will accept it (as charitable gifts).

Ahmad ibn Naqib al-Misri (d. 1368) from The Reliance of the Traveller, the classic Shafi manual of Islamic jurisprudence states:

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“… the time and the place for [the poll tax] is before the final descent of Jesus (upon whom be peace). After his final coming, nothing but Islam will be accepted from them, for taking the poll tax is only effective until Jesus’ descent (upon him and our Prophet be peace) …”

Ayatollah Ibrahim Amini clearly articulates this vision:

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The Mahdi will offer the religion of Islam to the Jews and Christians; if they accept it they will be spared, otherwise they will be killed.

Sheikh Kabbani, Chairman of the Islamic Supreme Council of America clearly articulates the Islamic perspective regarding Jesus’ evangelistic role when He returns.

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Like all prophets, Prophet Jesus came with the divine message of surrender to God Almighty, which is Islam. This verse shows that when Jesus returns he will personally correct the misrepresentations and misinterpretations about himself. He will affirm the true message that he brought in his time as a prophet, and that he never claimed to be the Son of God. Furthermore, he will reaffirm in his second coming what he prophesied in his first coming bearing witness to the seal of the Messengers, Prophet Muhammad. In his second coming many non-Muslims will accept Jesus as a servant of Allah Almighty, as a Muslim and a member of the Community of Muhammad.

Al-Sadr and Mutahhari, likewise articulate this same expectation:

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Jesus will descend from heaven and espouse the cause of the Mahdi. The Christians and the Jews will see him and recognize his true status. The Christians will abandon their faith in his godhead (sic).

They’re preparing for the call to Jihad by a future Caliph.

And I’m supposed to be SENSITIVE TO THEM?

You’re not quoting the Q’uran, you are quoting some extreme interpretations of it.

However, there is no one correct interpretation: Mullahs and Imams have different interpretations–you clearly do not have a full understanding of Islam.

We aren’t fighting a religious war. I didn’t join the Army to spread The Gospel. Our troops aren’t in Iraq to spread Christianity.

The US military is not a Christian organization, we leave our pets at home.

It’s all there in black and white… there is no “extreme” interpretation.. it says quite clearly and quite plainly what it says.

Don’t kid yourself and try to whitewash it.

If the Muslims ever succeed in establishing a recognized Caliphate. the Muslims will act on these Hadith.

That’s their major objection about what Bin Laden did.. it’s not that he attacked us… it’s that he attacked us too soon and without a Caliph to provide authority.

And we are fighting a religious war. That’s the big secret no one is supposd to say.. but we are. A war the Muslims started 1,400 years ago and will never end.

Fighting against Muslims was one of the keys that exposed the problems wtih the Articles of Confederation and prompted the Constitutional Convention. The US needed a Navy very badly because the Muslims were attacking our commerce in the Mediterrean Sea.

“In 1786 Jefferson and John Adams went to negotiate with Tripoli’s envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman or (Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves. Jefferson reported to Secretary of State John Jay, and to the Congress:

The ambassador answered us that [the right] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet (Mohammed), that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman (or Muslim) who should be slain in battle was sure to go to heaven”

Nothing has changed. Other than they went into decline in the 1800s but now they have flourished again with the money we give them for oil.

Of course:that’s what I said: You’re not quoting the Q’uran, you are quoting interpretations of it.

Hey, I’m fighting “to defend the Constitution against enemies foreign and domestic”, that’s what my oath said:

The First ammendment of that Constitution has the “Establishment Clause”. I’m not fighting for or against a particular religion.

So anyway, I hope I defended my opinion sufficiently. This religion is a brutal, anti-human system.

Some passage from New Century Version Bible:

No, not at all.

It’s not a settled issue in Islam: some believe the Koran is enough and others look to the ’sunnah’ or way of life of Muhammed and put less weight on hadith… Some believe the Hadith as written and others don’t.

Islam doesn’t have one authority, there are entire schools of disagreeing Islamic Jurisprudence.

You just have a big ol’ axe to grind.

They go way beyond what is just found in the Koran.

Yeah, that’s what I’ve been saying….

A false rebuttal, what you did, is to change the subject.

Changing the subject does not refute me, though it is one of the very common tactics that Muslims employ when the spotlight is shined on their religion.

The other tactics you might use are
1 - State I took things out of context
2 - State that the Koran/hadith/siras real meaning does not translate into English and could only be properly understoood in Arabic
3 - State the translation into English is flawed
4 - State that the topic is not in Islam at all and is a local custom.

You can’t be both anti-Muslim and pro-victory in Iraq.

We are partnered with, training, and counting on many devout Muslims there.

We’re not there to convert them: You’re going to have to set aside your anti-Muslim attitudes if you are going to support our efforts….

Thank you Captain Obvious

>You can’t be both anti-Muslim and pro-victory in Iraq.

That’s your platitude, I don’t need to accept it.

>We are partnered with, training, and counting on many devout Muslims there

Thank you Captain obvious

>We’re not there to convert them:

Straw man.

>You’re going to have to set aside your anti-Muslim attitudes if you are going to support our efforts….

That’s your platitude.

Do me a favor and take your condescension and direct it towards someone else.

I’m not Anti-Muslim. I am Anti-Islam. Islam is an ideology. Muslims are people.

If the Muslims of Iraq form a consensus that Jihad, Dawa and Sharia no longer apply it will be in spite of Islam and not because of it. We will have succeeded in our bold and risky experiment.

The jury is still out regarding Iraq. Yes the Sunnis rejected Al Qaida but it wasn’t for our sake. They rejected AQ because the AQ was slaughtering them!

So it is not I who has to change my totally justified suspicion of Muslims.. but rather it is they who have to change.. They are the ones with the problem. It is not a problem to notice this and to talk about it.

You know what you can do with your Political Correctness?

Watch this video and then tell me Islam is not of the Devil

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1637.htm

http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1646.htm

Satan’s representative demanding child sacrifices.

Hamas MP Yunis Al-Astal: Holiday Offerings Teach Us that Fathers Need to Sacrifice Their Sons and Sons Need to Sacrifice Themselves

Following are excerpts from a speech delivered by Hamas MP Yunis Al-Astal, which aired on Al-Aqsa TV on December 27, 2007.

Yunis Al-Astal: The offerings slaughtered by the pilgrims teach us how fathers should sacrifice their sons by encouraging them to wage Jihad for the sake of Allah. They also teach us how young people should sacrifice themselves. Our forefather Ismail, who was also a prophet, said: “Oh father, do what you are commanded,” and he sacrificed himself. The holiday and the offerings remind us of the need for fathers to sacrifice their sons and the need for sons to sacrifice themselves.

It shows what happens when a photographer and journalist reports what he sees with the intention of understanding it and helping other people understand it.

“Have a plan to kill everyone you see” is shocking, and he finds it shocking, but instead of going off on a self-indulgent offended joy ride he asks, what does that mean? Why is the sign there? What is it like for soldiers and Marines to have to stay ready all the time, even when nothing happens?

It’s a fabulous report.

Who drove those people in Baghdad?
Why 1.8-2.0 Million Iraqis refugees inside Iraq and 2.0-2.5 Millions Iraqi refugees outside Iraq, who did these crimes?

Iran?
Shiites?
Sunni?
Americans?
…… is it THIS!

This is the number on which many military experts inside the Beltway rely. Michael O’Hanlon, a senior fellow in foreign policy studies at the Brookings Institution who attended the Baghdad background briefing, explained that he thought the estimate derived from a comprehensive analysis by teams of local intelligence agents who examine the type and location of daily attacks, and their intended targets, and crosscheck that with reports from Iraqi informants and other data, such as intercepted phone calls. “It’s a fairly detailed kind of assessment,” O’Hanlon said. “Obviously you can’t always know who is behind an attack, but there is a fairly systematic way of looking at the attacks where they can begin to make a pretty informed guess.” Yet those who have worked on estimates inside the system take a more circumspect view. Alex Rossmiller, who worked in Iraq as an intelligence officer for the Department of Defense, says that real uncertainties exist in assigning responsibility for attacks. “It was kind of a running joke in our office,” he recalls. “We would sarcastically refer to everybody as al-Qaeda.”

“They are keenly aware of the danger of wider sectarian conflict, especially along the fault lines where the the Kurdish, Shia and Sunni Arab communities come together (like Baghdad).
I have in my 2+ years here yet met an Iraqi who thinks this would be a good idea. They want to stay a single country and they have had one for the past 85 years. They also want to get their security situation under control, they want to have safe streets and a growing economy.

So the point is not Totten’s report is fabulous or Ralph Peters report, the case is ask “what the Iraqi people want”

WTF does this mean?

The definition of a Muslim is a believer in Islam, just as a Christian is a believer in Christianity.

Think of it this way:

I’m not anti-Christian. I am anti-Christianity. Christianity is an ideology. Christians are people.

WTF does this mean? ”

It means I’m against the Islam that is expressed in the Koran, Hadith, and Sira.. particularly that section of it that states that Muslims must rule the world and are free to use any tactic in order to do so.

Amoung the various sects there is no disagreement in that area of Islam. So lest people point out that Islam is not a monolith, in regards to Dar al Haarb, Islam is.

Muslims, on the other hand, are people born or deceived into the religion. As people it can not be said that all of them act in a certain way. Some are more pious than others.

My enemy is the Muslim who believes in spreading sharia beyond the borders Dar Al Islam by any means and those Muslims who support them by means including but not limited to: doing nothing, obfuscating, deflecting criticism away from Muslims and back toward to the Non-muslim, providing an enclave from which jihad or dawa is launched.

Etc…

So Islam is Islam…. Muslims are people who run the spectrum from secular/cultural Muslims to dangerous devout Muslims.

Over time, some of these conquered peoples may rediscover their pre-Islamic heritage.

Islam is currently against Human Rights, both against allowing one to change away from being a believer, and against allowing allowing non-Muslims to live and believe as they choose in Mecca (and possibly not in Medina?).

It took many Catholic - Protestant wars before Christians allowed other Christians “freedom of belief”. And the early US Puritans were NOT among the tolerant.

I hope that devout, Human Rights supporting Muslims will gain accendancy in Iraq, with tolerance between Arab & Kurd Sunnis, and between Shia and Sunni.

Bush is looking like he’ll be getting a “B” by next year (less than 5000 Americans killed).

Hey Truth, any note on Abu Ghraib in 2002 or before? Do you really think torture there went up or down in 2003? I think it was reduced by some 99%, which is pretty good but not perfect.

Sort of like imperfect America, better in fact than any other reality.

Let just add this, whatever theory may we hear from vast media and with all reports some prizing surge some don’t, but there few facts working behind this war from the start.

1- Iraq as a country and as nation was brought to its knees due to inhuman sanction for 13 years people in Iraq seeing the death and no hope to they can continue their journey in this world peacefully they suffer and suffer they were patient for so long on hope this not can last there is end to it, but their hope day after day months after months year after year faded.
2- Before that Iraqi as nation fought for 8 years of bloody war which cost millions life and left widows mother kids hopeless and suffer fro war that thought to be push the evil from the east the united because their love to their land they did lesson to that lunatic Mullah and his ugly head who like to bring live to back age and drive people like sheep on their land in name of Islam.
3- After 8 years Iraqi nation again bombed and destroyed for its lunatic leader sin they suffer and lost more lives and can found their loved ones aftermath of that war no one tell them where are they but the new that they under the sand buried in their shelters as if earth quake in the desert taken them but its not God well it’s a military weapon invented to create and taken their lives but the lunatic leader a live.

So if a nation like Iraq suffered and went through all this and after four bloody years of occupation with chaos every where they left prisons in their homes waiting for the death at any moment, suddenly we hear YES it’s a surge working we wining , what a win we got?

How many lives this adventure cost how many Mums, kids suffer year there are 5 million Iraqi orphans now and more suffering.

The nation now under the fatigue of wars , a fatigue of chaos, a fatigue of suffering that why surge work, you using them as a cloning media in library now they just don’t know but you cheering your surge on a lake of blood.

Jesus Christ, but that must have gotten someone’s attention. Yes, the Surge is working. But I believe it is not a surge of boots that is doing the work so much as it is a surge of hope.

Let just add this, whatever theory may we hear from vast media and with all reports some prizing surge some don’t, but there few facts working behind this war from the start.

1- Iraq as a country and as nation was brought to its knees due to inhuman sanction for 13 years people in Iraq seeing the death and no hope to they can continue their journey in this world peacefully they suffer and suffer they were patient for so long on hope this not can last there is end to it, but their hope day after day months after months year after year faded.
2- Before that Iraqi as nation fought for 8 years of bloody war which cost millions life and left widows mother kids hopeless and suffer fro war that thought to be push the evil from the east the united because their love to their land they did lesson to that lunatic Mullah and his ugly head who like to bring live to back age and drive people like sheep on their land in name of Islam.
3- After 8 years Iraqi nation again bombed and destroyed for its lunatic leader sin they suffer and lost more lives and can found their loved ones aftermath of that war no one tell them where are they but the new that they under the sand buried in their shelters as if earth quake in the desert taken them but its not God well it’s a military weapon invented to create and taken their lives but the lunatic leader a live.

So if a nation like Iraq suffered and went through all this and after four bloody years of occupation with chaos every where they left prisons in their homes waiting for the death at any moment, suddenly we hear YES it’s a surge working we wining , what a win we got?

How many lives this adventure cost how many Mums, kids suffer year there are 5 million Iraqi orphans now and more suffering.

The nation now under the fatigue of wars , a fatigue of chaos, a fatigue of suffering that why surge work, you using them as a cloning media in library now they just don’t know but you cheering your surge on a lake of blood.

neo, I asked but you neither responding nor took action what I asked, sham on you if you live with people who are racist hatemongering driving this space.

Then go after OBL and his family like what you doing in Iraq you had 50,000 in camps, some of those are family members who have done nothing, why them OBL family still their touring US and other part or word or their long tail of money there in Saudi. Did that need a genius brain to know this?

Oh yes they are our friends keep them signing billion of dollars deals with small bribe to princes they are good.

What’s with your petualant demand for perfection? It’s never going to happen.

I have hard time accepting arguments such as “Why didn’t you attack country X instead.”

Because of all the ME countries , Iraq was the most politically acceptible nation to invade.

The idiocy of Saddam was like a sort of begging to be attacked.

So we went into Iraq first.. and boy oh boy listen to the baseless charges “Illegal war” “War criminal”. “war based on lies” etc…. and this is from a war that will probably be the war wth the most UN justification.

Can you imagine all the emotional reaction had the US invaded another country!!

And secondly, you’d be against that war no matter what.

So your argument is disingenious.

Well I saw it more like, I hate NAZI’ism.

Were all German’s NAZIs? No of course not.

Last night I watched “Under Fire,” a 1983 movie about journalists covering the fighting in Nicaragua.

Very enlightening, in a Rathergate kind of way. Long story short, the “journalists” fall in love with the Sandinistas (I know you’re surprised), fake a photograph to help them win, and then cover it up. Closing shot of happy throngs, flags waving, etc.

No mention that the Sandinistas were Castro and the Soviets proxies (that got left on the cutting room floor, I guess), but lots of indication that Somoza was our proxy. The communist revolutionaries were, of course, sweetness and light, and merely bored opponents to death with Marxist ideology, whereas government forces brutally killed all and sundry.

But most telling of all was the frank, matter of fact, and unapologetic admission that journalists make up stories to advance left-wing goals.

No wonder Rather was stunned to be caught out. It was business as usual.

So did you know who changing the subject NOW?

1. Please use correct English…and learn to spell.

2. A good friend of mine - female, as it happens - was put up against a wall in Iran and shot dead. Her mistake? Starting a medical college for women.

She was both a PhD and an MD from Harvard Medical School. trying to do something that would help Iranian women. And men too when you come down to it.

Now I should retain sympathy for Islam? The excuse for her death was that she violated the Qu’ran rules for women.

Nice religion, eh?

“Islam is the stupidest of the monotheisms”: Schopenhauer. I have to agree with that Kraut.

How many criminals get nailed after either organizing or bragging about their crimes via email or on the Internet?

In politics, people like neo-neocon destroy any potential political career they may have by welcoming hate-mongering nonsense like the idiocy spouted by Vince P and many other Muslim-haters here, while banning people like me, who simply voice liberal views and answer ad hominem in kind with wit.

I really appreciate that neo-neocon banned me from posting here, because the record of that will last forever, as will the record of the people here who haven’t been banned after calling for killing all Muslims and overthrowing the government by violence and so on.

Had neoneo not banned me and others, she could argue that this is simply a free forum and she can’t control what people say.

But we now have proof, archived forever, that she does exercise control.

Should she ever harbor any thoughts of seeking political office or a government position, her embrace of anti-Muslim hate will be all right here for anyone to see at the blog she controls.

Thanks neo-neocon!

You’re welcome, jerk.

There…I have become EVIL.

A nice feeling, all in all.

There are differences between the faiths of Jews, Muslims and Christians that run deep and although our elite sophistication and political correctness wants us to pretend and believe that at their heart each faith is tolerant, accepting and non-violent, this is not the truth.

Good Ole Charlie, first apologies to you and other friends here for my English mistakes.
Secondly Khomeini and his ilk’s were an Iranian Shiite Muslim, and Ayatollah is Iranians a Shiite title.
Shiite Muslims account for less than 10% of the Muslim population, and are therefore not representative of Islam. Also you need to understand that not all Shiite same as Iran Shiite, may be your commanders on the ground in Iraq tells the truth about what I mentioned.
May also pick your attention that your administrations support Iranian /Iraqi Mullah Al-Hakim who now the Iraqi women and Iraqi Christians killed because of this lunatic mullah and he enjoy his time of US support for him and his brigade “Bader Force” Iran crated and trained Militia!
But I feel the sorrow in you about your poor friend with the crimes done for here by those criminals also who hold the US embassy hostages, but keep in mind what 25 Millions in Iraq suffering and some killed because of REGIM CHANGE WAR?
Is it same sorrow for Arab/Iraqi or THEY ARE DIFFERENT?

We had to find something to fulfill that function between Democratic National Conventions.

Sorry. Couldn’t resist.

If you were banned, and are gloating about how being banned makes you such a Good Person…

WHY ARE YOU COMMENTING HERE?

It’s not Islam, those leaders in charge of Islamic nations, those some of them US friendly regimes who are violating currently against Human Rights, like Al-Saud, Al-Subah, Al-Thani, Qdaffi, Hussni Mubark and on and on

Q Morning, Mr. President. I have a more general question about the United States’ work to democratize the rest of the world. Many have viewed the United States’ effort to democratize the world — especially nations in the Middle East — as an imposition or invasion on their sovereign rights. Considering that it was, in fact, the Prophet Mohammed who established the first known constitution in the world — I’m referring to the constitution he wrote for the city of Medina –and that his life and the principles outlined in his constitution, such as the championing of the welfare of women, children and the poor, living as an equal among his people, dissolving disputes between the warring clans in Arabia, giving any man or woman in parliament the right to vote and guaranteeing respect for all religions, ironically parallel those principles that we hold most precious in our own Constitution. I’m wondering how might your recently formed Iraq Study Group under the U.S. Institute for Peace explore these striking similarities to forge a new relationship with Iraqis and educate Americans about the democratic principles inherent in Islam?