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		<title>By: N. O'Brain</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/12/ah-those-clever-literary-intellectuals/#comment-53317</link>
		<dc:creator>N. O'Brain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 21:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;People STILL steal ideas from him.&quot;

PIMF</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;People STILL steal ideas from him.&#8221;</p>
<p>PIMF</p>
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		<title>By: N. O'Brain</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/12/ah-those-clever-literary-intellectuals/#comment-53316</link>
		<dc:creator>N. O'Brain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 20:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Writing is not necessarily something to be ashamed of, but  do it in private and wash your hands afterwards.&quot;

-Robert Heinlein


RAH was a &lt;i&gt;smart&lt;/i&gt; writer, a graduate of Annapolis, politician, silver miner, inventor (the water bed).

People STILL ideas from him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Writing is not necessarily something to be ashamed of, but  do it in private and wash your hands afterwards.&#8221;</p>
<p>-Robert Heinlein</p>
<p>RAH was a <i>smart</i> writer, a graduate of Annapolis, politician, silver miner, inventor (the water bed).</p>
<p>People STILL ideas from him.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince P</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/12/ah-those-clever-literary-intellectuals/#comment-53265</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom Grey - Liberty Dad : And how about the way they kept calling the program the &quot;Domestic eavesdropping&quot;, when it was international!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom Grey &#8211; Liberty Dad : And how about the way they kept calling the program the &#8220;Domestic eavesdropping&#8221;, when it was international!</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Grey - Liberty Dad</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/12/ah-those-clever-literary-intellectuals/#comment-53257</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Grey - Liberty Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 12:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a clear Leftist sample of opinion as news:
&quot;Unwarranted wire-tapping approved and ordered by the Bush administration is simply a fact with overwhelming evidence. But is evidence really necessary when the Bush administration has admitted it and, even, argued that it’s necessary?&quot;

Fact: wire-tapping was approved (as it was by Clinton).
Leftist Opinion: Bush&#039;s wire-tappping is Unwarranted.
Leftist mush: &quot;Unwarranted wire-tapping ... is simply a fact&quot;.

The Leftist often adds a subjective analysis onto a fact and calls them both, together, a &quot;fact&quot;.  Which it never is.

Stop terrorism opinion: wire-tapping is necessary.

The Liberal Fascists enforce PC crapola in the University -- see Larry Summers, fired for speaking the truth.

(It is a fact that more men than women score 800 on the SAT math exams.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a clear Leftist sample of opinion as news:<br />
&#8220;Unwarranted wire-tapping approved and ordered by the Bush administration is simply a fact with overwhelming evidence. But is evidence really necessary when the Bush administration has admitted it and, even, argued that it’s necessary?&#8221;</p>
<p>Fact: wire-tapping was approved (as it was by Clinton).<br />
Leftist Opinion: Bush&#8217;s wire-tappping is Unwarranted.<br />
Leftist mush: &#8220;Unwarranted wire-tapping &#8230; is simply a fact&#8221;.</p>
<p>The Leftist often adds a subjective analysis onto a fact and calls them both, together, a &#8220;fact&#8221;.  Which it never is.</p>
<p>Stop terrorism opinion: wire-tapping is necessary.</p>
<p>The Liberal Fascists enforce PC crapola in the University &#8212; see Larry Summers, fired for speaking the truth.</p>
<p>(It is a fact that more men than women score 800 on the SAT math exams.)</p>
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		<title>By: Sally</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/12/ah-those-clever-literary-intellectuals/#comment-53212</link>
		<dc:creator>Sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McL: &lt;i&gt;And just to make it even clearer, my view isn’t that conservatives are incapable of academic achievement.&lt;/i&gt;

Or, we could  make it still more clear, and say liberals are stupid. 

And that&#039;s the only kind of thing he has to say. Lovey is just a classic troll and is so a waste of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McL: <i>And just to make it even clearer, my view isn’t that conservatives are incapable of academic achievement.</i></p>
<p>Or, we could  make it still more clear, and say liberals are stupid. </p>
<p>And that&#8217;s the only kind of thing he has to say. Lovey is just a classic troll and is so a waste of time.</p>
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		<title>By: Occam's Beard</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/12/ah-those-clever-literary-intellectuals/#comment-53193</link>
		<dc:creator>Occam's Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 04:07:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Don’t you ever tire of their whining? What do they want?&lt;/i&gt;

Yep, sometimes I do. Of course, I also have no time for feminists and minorities whining about hostile environments, either.

I should point out that they are bleating about this publicly, but rather privately to me. Their colleagues in general have little idea of their true convictions. They keep their heads down and their mouths shut so as to avoid professional repercussions.

&lt;i&gt;Why do they feel so entitled to have their views accepted? Why do they feel so they have a right to complain just because liberals challenge their assumptions?&lt;/i&gt;

In fairness, they don&#039;t expect their views to be accepted. And liberals don&#039;t challenge their assumptions; they use social pressure to enforce orthodoxy, and one against many is tough - particularly when one anticipates working with the same people for the next few decades. As indicated above, to the best of theri ability, they try to stay below the radar. 

It&#039;s kind of like arguing with one&#039;s wife: a confrontation best avoided, because there&#039;s no upside, and lots of downside. Bear in mind that funding, manuscript , and tenure decisions are generally made anonymously, so making enemies unnecessarily is not a good strategy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Don’t you ever tire of their whining? What do they want?</i></p>
<p>Yep, sometimes I do. Of course, I also have no time for feminists and minorities whining about hostile environments, either.</p>
<p>I should point out that they are bleating about this publicly, but rather privately to me. Their colleagues in general have little idea of their true convictions. They keep their heads down and their mouths shut so as to avoid professional repercussions.</p>
<p><i>Why do they feel so entitled to have their views accepted? Why do they feel so they have a right to complain just because liberals challenge their assumptions?</i></p>
<p>In fairness, they don&#8217;t expect their views to be accepted. And liberals don&#8217;t challenge their assumptions; they use social pressure to enforce orthodoxy, and one against many is tough &#8211; particularly when one anticipates working with the same people for the next few decades. As indicated above, to the best of theri ability, they try to stay below the radar. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of like arguing with one&#8217;s wife: a confrontation best avoided, because there&#8217;s no upside, and lots of downside. Bear in mind that funding, manuscript , and tenure decisions are generally made anonymously, so making enemies unnecessarily is not a good strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: McLovin</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/12/ah-those-clever-literary-intellectuals/#comment-53187</link>
		<dc:creator>McLovin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And it&#039;s more than a little hilarious that Occam admits that he considers his political views in the same light as religious tradition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it&#8217;s more than a little hilarious that Occam admits that he considers his political views in the same light as religious tradition.</p>
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		<title>By: McLovin</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/12/ah-those-clever-literary-intellectuals/#comment-53186</link>
		<dc:creator>McLovin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>``Conservative friends in academia who don’t want to leave are pretty miserable putting up with the atmosphere.&#039;&#039;

Don&#039;t you ever tire of their whining? What do they want? Why do they feel so entitled to have their views accepted? Why do they feel so they have a right to complain just because liberals challenge their assumptions?

There are scores of unabashedly conservative universities across America. Why can&#039;t these whining academics find their way to them?

And just to make it even clearer, my view isn&#039;t that conservatives are incapable of academic achievement. I see no evidence that conservatives, on average, are any more or less intelligent than liberals. Political views track other factors, not so much intelligence. Still, conservatives themselves insist vehemently that they underperform academically, either that, or there is some sort of conspiracy holding them down. And where&#039;s the evidence for that?

Conservatives do however lead the way in self-pity and whining. When will they at long last tire of whinging about the fact that some people disagree with them? When will they at long last face the reality that America is a free country where their views entitle them to zip, nada. They have to earn their way in the media or academia. And the failure to do so is just that, failure.

Got views other people don&#039;t like? Defend them. Stop whining!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Conservative friends in academia who don’t want to leave are pretty miserable putting up with the atmosphere.&#8221;</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you ever tire of their whining? What do they want? Why do they feel so entitled to have their views accepted? Why do they feel so they have a right to complain just because liberals challenge their assumptions?</p>
<p>There are scores of unabashedly conservative universities across America. Why can&#8217;t these whining academics find their way to them?</p>
<p>And just to make it even clearer, my view isn&#8217;t that conservatives are incapable of academic achievement. I see no evidence that conservatives, on average, are any more or less intelligent than liberals. Political views track other factors, not so much intelligence. Still, conservatives themselves insist vehemently that they underperform academically, either that, or there is some sort of conspiracy holding them down. And where&#8217;s the evidence for that?</p>
<p>Conservatives do however lead the way in self-pity and whining. When will they at long last tire of whinging about the fact that some people disagree with them? When will they at long last face the reality that America is a free country where their views entitle them to zip, nada. They have to earn their way in the media or academia. And the failure to do so is just that, failure.</p>
<p>Got views other people don&#8217;t like? Defend them. Stop whining!</p>
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		<title>By: Occam's Beard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Occam's Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So...Streisand and the Kennedys are not part of the American elite? I&#039;m with you there, 100% in fact, but most people would disagree.

&lt;i&gt;I don’t think conservatives are INCAPABLE of making the grade–that wasn’t my point at all. Rather, it’s that for whatever reason–including those cited by Occam–they don’t.&lt;/i&gt;

Pardon me, but in English the phrase &quot;conservatives failed to make the grade&quot; admits of only one interpretation, and it&#039;s one that does not comport well with &quot;not doing so out of their own volition.&quot;

&lt;i&gt;Lastly, Occam makes my case by admitting that he left academia completly of his own volition for a better pay check and an environment more conducive to his particular political views.

No purge, no coercion, just Occam opting out for greener pastures.&lt;/i&gt;

Kind of a &quot;separate but equal&quot; deal? Ever hear of a hostile environment? I was pleased to leave, for the cited reasons, but conservative friends in academia who don&#039;t want to leave are pretty miserable putting up with the atmosphere.

An orthodox Jew invited to a spare rib barbecue and regaled with Jewish jokes might choose of his own volition to leave too. No purge, no coerciion, just seeking out an environment more conducive to his religious views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230;Streisand and the Kennedys are not part of the American elite? I&#8217;m with you there, 100% in fact, but most people would disagree.</p>
<p><i>I don’t think conservatives are INCAPABLE of making the grade–that wasn’t my point at all. Rather, it’s that for whatever reason–including those cited by Occam–they don’t.</i></p>
<p>Pardon me, but in English the phrase &#8220;conservatives failed to make the grade&#8221; admits of only one interpretation, and it&#8217;s one that does not comport well with &#8220;not doing so out of their own volition.&#8221;</p>
<p><i>Lastly, Occam makes my case by admitting that he left academia completly of his own volition for a better pay check and an environment more conducive to his particular political views.</p>
<p>No purge, no coercion, just Occam opting out for greener pastures.</i></p>
<p>Kind of a &#8220;separate but equal&#8221; deal? Ever hear of a hostile environment? I was pleased to leave, for the cited reasons, but conservative friends in academia who don&#8217;t want to leave are pretty miserable putting up with the atmosphere.</p>
<p>An orthodox Jew invited to a spare rib barbecue and regaled with Jewish jokes might choose of his own volition to leave too. No purge, no coerciion, just seeking out an environment more conducive to his religious views.</p>
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		<title>By: harry9000</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/12/ah-those-clever-literary-intellectuals/#comment-53175</link>
		<dc:creator>harry9000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OB:
&lt;i&gt;&quot;I was about to say that memberfs of the Kennedy members have acquitted themselves well, but actually in some cases it was a jury who acquitted them, so they don’t really get credit for that.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

LOL!  I love that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OB:<br />
<i>&#8220;I was about to say that memberfs of the Kennedy members have acquitted themselves well, but actually in some cases it was a jury who acquitted them, so they don’t really get credit for that.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>LOL!  I love that!</p>
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