Comments on: The art of politics http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/ Wed, 09 Jul 2008 04:42:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.1 By: Campaign poster art….The Mantra remains the same… at Amused Cynic http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55217 Campaign poster art….The Mantra remains the same… at Amused Cynic Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:51:19 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55217 [...] Neo-neocon looks at this poster and sees an attempt to invoke JFK. Funny, I see the “retro-Soviet” iconic image as stylistically reminiscent of those Che Guevera T-shirts so popular with the undereducated college students and aging boomers who form Obama’s groupie “base.” [...] […] Neo-neocon looks at this poster and sees an attempt to invoke JFK. Funny, I see the “retro-Soviet” iconic image as stylistically reminiscent of those Che Guevera T-shirts so popular with the undereducated college students and aging boomers who form Obama’s groupie “base.” […]

]]> By: Valjean http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55218 Valjean Thu, 31 Jan 2008 19:51:36 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55218 Neo, No, you're not unhinged -- but you might expand your horizons about leftist obsessions with graphic <i>visages</i>. For example, there's this fellow, who seems to have had his mug rendered a few times: http://www.dirtymouse.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/propaganda_2.jpg ... and, of course, the original thug pin-up: http://images.art.com/images/-/Che-Guevara---Classic-Poster-C10005217.jpeg Interesting to see Mr. Obama in the same company ... Neo,

No, you’re not unhinged — but you might expand your horizons about leftist obsessions with graphic visages. For example, there’s this fellow, who seems to have had his mug rendered a few times:

http://www.dirtymouse.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/propaganda_2.jpg

… and, of course, the original thug pin-up:

http://images.art.com/images/-/Che-Guevara—Classic-Poster-C10005217.jpeg

Interesting to see Mr. Obama in the same company …

]]> By: nyomythus http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55228 nyomythus Thu, 31 Jan 2008 21:38:21 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55228 Slight resemblance, yes ... but I also love retro-Soviet style art! Slight resemblance, yes … but I also love retro-Soviet style art!

]]> By: Cappy http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55233 Cappy Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:01:18 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55233 Is fearless leader. Can Mr. Big be far behind? Moose and Squirrel must die! Is fearless leader. Can Mr. Big be far behind?

Moose and Squirrel must die!

]]> By: driver http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55234 driver Thu, 31 Jan 2008 22:17:22 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55234 Michelle Obama does kind of look like Natasha, come to think of it. Michelle Obama does kind of look like Natasha, come to think of it.

]]> By: harry9000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55262 harry9000 Fri, 01 Feb 2008 03:44:43 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55262 Good call Neo. By the way, I aslo love the old Soviet modernist art. The romanticism of a politcal movement. You klnow what else was cool? Pictures of Yugoslav partisans during WW2. Those guys were always striking dramatic poses with weapons and banners. They looked awsome. I wish I had that to post. I only have Lenin: <a href="http://img236.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rus127bcm4.jpg" rel="nofollow"></a> Good call Neo. By the way, I aslo love the old Soviet modernist art. The romanticism of a politcal movement. You klnow what else was cool? Pictures of Yugoslav partisans during WW2. Those guys were always striking dramatic poses with weapons and banners. They looked awsome. I wish I had that to post. I only have Lenin:

]]> By: harry9000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55263 harry9000 Fri, 01 Feb 2008 03:45:29 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55263 http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/4789/rus127bcm4.jpg http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/4789/rus127bcm4.jpg

]]> By: Perfected democrat http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55288 Perfected democrat Fri, 01 Feb 2008 08:05:55 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55288 "The punching up of the red, white and blue — a color scheme no candidate can afford to do without. " I must be color blind, I see red, yellow and blue... and "Progress", a typically vague and Orwellian platitude which, based on his more concrete discussions, actually intends more and bigger central government programs and higher taxes, which some people call socialism. In reference to Obama's interview with the french magazine and his intent to have "muslim summit", "I will ask them to join us in battling terrorism but we should also be willing to listen in terms of some of their concerns," he said. Didn't they just have one, called "Annapolis", and when the Israelis spoke they removed the translation monitors in their ears.... There is much indignation when people like myself suggest that what we have in hand here is a real life version of a "Manchurian Candidate", but as the addage goes, "if it walks, talks, and looks like a duck, it must be".... “The punching up of the red, white and blue — a color scheme no candidate can afford to do without. ”

I must be color blind, I see red, yellow and blue… and “Progress”, a typically vague and Orwellian platitude which, based on his more concrete discussions, actually intends more and bigger central government programs and higher taxes, which some people call socialism. In reference to Obama’s interview with the french magazine and his intent to have “muslim summit”, “I will ask them to join us in battling terrorism but we should also be willing to listen in terms of some of their concerns,” he said. Didn’t they just have one, called “Annapolis”, and when the Israelis spoke they removed the translation monitors in their ears…. There is much indignation when people like myself suggest that what we have in hand here is a real life version of a “Manchurian Candidate”, but as the addage goes, “if it walks, talks, and looks like a duck, it must be”….

]]> By: douglas http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55293 douglas Fri, 01 Feb 2008 09:54:49 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55293 Interesting observations. Progress. As in "Progressive" as in the inexorable march of history toward the inevitable communist future! WHat I can't figure out is what is in the middle of the Obama 'O sunrise' logo? The logo normally has an empty center (perfect representation of the original). This one has something with a star and I'm not sure what... I zoomed in but the resolution isn't that great. Pixellated, it looks reminiscent of some old soviet star on a military medal. Interesting observations. Progress. As in “Progressive” as in the inexorable march of history toward the inevitable communist future!

WHat I can’t figure out is what is in the middle of the Obama ‘O sunrise’ logo? The logo normally has an empty center (perfect representation of the original). This one has something with a star and I’m not sure what… I zoomed in but the resolution isn’t that great. Pixellated, it looks reminiscent of some old soviet star on a military medal.

]]> By: driver http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55308 driver Fri, 01 Feb 2008 15:14:39 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55308 Heh. I zoomed in too, and I think it's a face superimposed over a star. Big Brother? Heh. I zoomed in too, and I think it’s a face superimposed over a star. Big Brother?

]]> By: Al Fin http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55315 Al Fin Fri, 01 Feb 2008 16:33:49 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55315 Big Brother Barack? It has a ring to it. Yes, it is indeed neo-soviet art, the revival of which should be cheered by collectivists everywhere! This is the season of Audacious Hope in America, as in Kenya. Big Brother Barack? It has a ring to it.

Yes, it is indeed neo-soviet art, the revival of which should be cheered by collectivists everywhere!

This is the season of Audacious Hope in America, as in Kenya.

]]> By: Xanthippas http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55319 Xanthippas Fri, 01 Feb 2008 17:11:39 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55319 <blockquote>There is much indignation when people like myself suggest that what we have in hand here is a real life version of a “Manchurian Candidate”, but as the addage goes, “if it walks, talks, and looks like a duck, it must be”….</blockquote> Well now wait...is he secretly a Islamofascist or a Communist? Which "duck" are we talking about here?

There is much indignation when people like myself suggest that what we have in hand here is a real life version of a “Manchurian Candidate”, but as the addage goes, “if it walks, talks, and looks like a duck, it must be”….

Well now wait…is he secretly a Islamofascist or a Communist? Which “duck” are we talking about here?

]]> By: Portia http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55324 Portia Fri, 01 Feb 2008 17:57:54 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55324 Well now wait…is he secretly a Islamofascist or a Communist? Which “duck” are we talking about here? Both are empty shells to claim the right of the "enlightened few" to control all actions of the unenlightened many. Both are attempts to restore a form of "nobility derived from birth" that wonderful system that kept most of humanity in shackles for millenia. It quacks like a duck. It waddles like a duck. It is of little importance to me whether the duck is yellow or pink. I'd like to say I don't know if he's conscious of being a manchurian candidate. But I do know he has internalized guilt for his father's desertion of his mother and himself, and has idealized the foreign and "other" who are of course among our enemies. I don't know if he ever had a choice to do otherwise, or if he was programmed to choose this way. I would think he nursed white guilt with his mother's milk, and that too he's interiorized. I think what we're looking at is an even more naive and blinkeredly traitorous Carter, dressing up his wish to reunite with his "oppressed" -- never mind he's an elite politician in Kenya. He's black, therefore oppressed -- father by appeasing the islamists and stabbing his white mother (US -- never mind we're not by any means a white country. Thank heavens. I'm talking about what I'm sure -- from reading his bio -- is his ideation, not the reality) in the back and making daddy see it's all HER fault, so he'll come back for sonny and see he's worthy of daddy. This unconscious need is cloaked in the language of rescuing the oppressed in America and leveling the classes and all that rott, in the old Marxian patois that always comes in so handy for such things. In other words, he's a profoundly damaged individual, marching to a tune he can't even understand, and having to hold on to cherished illusions in order to survive relatively sane. All those leftists who accused Bush of a daddy complex are about to see the real thing. If this duck gets power, our goose is cooked. P. Well now wait…is he secretly a Islamofascist or a Communist? Which “duck” are we talking about here?

Both are empty shells to claim the right of the “enlightened few” to control all actions of the unenlightened many. Both are attempts to restore a form of “nobility derived from birth” that wonderful system that kept most of humanity in shackles for millenia. It quacks like a duck. It waddles like a duck. It is of little importance to me whether the duck is yellow or pink.

I’d like to say I don’t know if he’s conscious of being a manchurian candidate. But I do know he has internalized guilt for his father’s desertion of his mother and himself, and has idealized the foreign and “other” who are of course among our enemies. I don’t know if he ever had a choice to do otherwise, or if he was programmed to choose this way. I would think he nursed white guilt with his mother’s milk, and that too he’s interiorized. I think what we’re looking at is an even more naive and blinkeredly traitorous Carter, dressing up his wish to reunite with his “oppressed” — never mind he’s an elite politician in Kenya. He’s black, therefore oppressed — father by appeasing the islamists and stabbing his white mother (US — never mind we’re not by any means a white country. Thank heavens. I’m talking about what I’m sure — from reading his bio — is his ideation, not the reality) in the back and making daddy see it’s all HER fault, so he’ll come back for sonny and see he’s worthy of daddy. This unconscious need is cloaked in the language of rescuing the oppressed in America and leveling the classes and all that rott, in the old Marxian patois that always comes in so handy for such things.

In other words, he’s a profoundly damaged individual, marching to a tune he can’t even understand, and having to hold on to cherished illusions in order to survive relatively sane. All those leftists who accused Bush of a daddy complex are about to see the real thing.

If this duck gets power, our goose is cooked.

P.

]]> By: harry9000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55335 harry9000 Fri, 01 Feb 2008 19:31:26 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55335 The messiah is above having to make plebeian gestures. http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/6551/obamapicay4.jpg The messiah is above having to make plebeian gestures.

http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/6551/obamapicay4.jpg

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55347 Ymarsakar Fri, 01 Feb 2008 21:37:19 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55347 Since the Soviets were not defeated by a war, now we see the consequences of what happens when one claims victory without a war to settle the issue once and for all. Since the Soviets were not defeated by a war, now we see the consequences of what happens when one claims victory without a war to settle the issue once and for all.

]]> By: nyomythus http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55358 nyomythus Fri, 01 Feb 2008 22:25:38 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55358 There is the hope that he might mature as a leader, though I would prefer to see evidence before becoming president. There is the hope that he might mature as a leader, though I would prefer to see evidence before becoming president.

]]> By: Assistant Village Idiot http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55400 Assistant Village Idiot Sat, 02 Feb 2008 03:35:44 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55400 And this image as well: http://members.telering.at/pat/goua.jpg I'm noticing a theme, here... And this image as well: http://members.telering.at/pat/goua.jpg

I’m noticing a theme, here…

]]> By: Perfected democrat http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55409 Perfected democrat Sat, 02 Feb 2008 05:50:41 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55409 The problem is, about half or more of the country is buying into this.... so we now have a dead center mainstream democrat (McCain) close to becoming the Republican nominee (and which would make him a very respectable contender if he were running as a democrat); Instead the dims are about to nominate an authentic manchurian candidate, while Hugo Chavez courts hezbollah and harasses "his" Jews (with his "security" director a former saddam/Iraqi ambassador), and the mayor of London is a second term Ken Livingstone..... The islamization of western europe, the europeanization of America, a steady erosion of culture and character which reminds me of the evolution of the 1930's, and which had to become a crisis and a blood bath before people with some common sense, inspired by some finally gut level fear, finally felt compelled to take responsibility..... But the stakes are so much higher now, no doubt someone with a little money, and access to some obscure caves and the internet, could easily fabricate some nasty wmd which would easily fit into a standard shipping container.... people don't have enough appreciation and respect for what has been accomplished in Iraq and Afghanistan due to Bush and Darth Vader's leadership.... What really bothers me is the devolution of Rice..... The problem is, about half or more of the country is buying into this…. so we now have a dead center mainstream democrat (McCain) close to becoming the Republican nominee (and which would make him a very respectable contender if he were running as a democrat); Instead the dims are about to nominate an authentic manchurian candidate, while Hugo Chavez courts hezbollah and harasses “his” Jews (with his “security” director a former saddam/Iraqi ambassador), and the mayor of London is a second term Ken Livingstone….. The islamization of western europe, the europeanization of America, a steady erosion of culture and character which reminds me of the evolution of the 1930’s, and which had to become a crisis and a blood bath before people with some common sense, inspired by some finally gut level fear, finally felt compelled to take responsibility….. But the stakes are so much higher now, no doubt someone with a little money, and access to some obscure caves and the internet, could easily fabricate some nasty wmd which would easily fit into a standard shipping container…. people don’t have enough appreciation and respect for what has been accomplished in Iraq and Afghanistan due to Bush and Darth Vader’s leadership…. What really bothers me is the devolution of Rice…..

]]> By: Perfected democrat http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55413 Perfected democrat Sat, 02 Feb 2008 06:02:03 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55413 P.S. ... and this interesting tidbit from Politcal Mavens site: "There are people turning 20 next year who have never known a time when there has not been a Bush or a Clinton as president of the United States." Think about it..... P.S. … and this interesting tidbit from Politcal Mavens site: “There are people turning 20 next year who have never known a time when there has not been a Bush or a Clinton as president of the United States.” Think about it…..

]]> By: Perfected democrat http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55414 Perfected democrat Sat, 02 Feb 2008 06:05:21 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55414 It's doubtful this is what the founding fathers intended.... It’s doubtful this is what the founding fathers intended….

]]> By: sf http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55477 sf Sat, 02 Feb 2008 14:48:50 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55477 Lots of thoughtful analysis in the above comments. Obama's seeming anti-American streaks will simply ensure a Clinton win--compared to Obama, Hillary looks like a moderate. Lots of thoughtful analysis in the above comments.

Obama’s seeming anti-American streaks will simply ensure a Clinton win–compared to Obama, Hillary looks like a moderate.

]]> By: Al Fin http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55518 Al Fin Sat, 02 Feb 2008 19:14:25 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/01/31/the-art-of-politics/#comment-55518 It is fascinating to contemplate a US presidential cabinet composed of members whose last names are all "X." I am reminded of the wave of populist hope that rose around the David Dinkins mayor-ship in NYC. A wave of glorious change was supposed to sweep across the city, bringing a new millenium. Most of us remember what actually happened. The same type of audacious hope for millenial change surrounds the candidacy of Barack Obama. And I think we all can see where it would actually lead, should the candidacy achieve its ultimate goal. It is fascinating to contemplate a US presidential cabinet composed of members whose last names are all “X.”

I am reminded of the wave of populist hope that rose around the David Dinkins mayor-ship in NYC. A wave of glorious change was supposed to sweep across the city, bringing a new millenium. Most of us remember what actually happened.

The same type of audacious hope for millenial change surrounds the candidacy of Barack Obama. And I think we all can see where it would actually lead, should the candidacy achieve its ultimate goal.

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