Oh, so it’s OK to invade and conquer other peoples if you improve their way of life? That’s exactly what the Europeans said when they colonized the ME (and Africa, India, China, etc.) — after all, they built roads and schools and brought science, medicine, and Christianity with them! Perfectly OK, right?

Your numbers are again irrelevant. I compared Israel vs. Arabs. Nothing the US or Europe or anyone else has done affects what I wrote.

trooth: “Finally why you pay bribes are you Christian goes read your bible well, you will find both sides are making Sin.”

And you can give the scripture for that?

trooth: “Moreover what make you pay on behalf of Israelis? Are you Israeli or Zionist?”

Because the Israelis are right, and it would be a crime to allow a liberal democracy to fall to tyrants simply for lack of funding.

trooth: “Last thing keep in mind Iraq war as example and speak unless you’re idiot and living in black bubble.”

I do keep the Iraq war in mind, and so I must speak the truth as I understand it. I suggest it’s you living in a black bubble.

What rubbish here you put.

I don’t need advice from some one so fanatic to tell me, stirring history as his mindset.

If don’t like go back thousands years who did crimes against humanity,

Check your history of colonialism in ME, before saying any thing here, remember those Muslims who invade some Europe land and Spain they brought you the bases of what you enjoying today life and you should thank them for dragging out your nations from the darkens and wars that lasting hundred of years.

Just some figure reminder for fanatic mindset:
! Million in Algeria
!00,000 in Libya
Un-counted numbers in Egypt in Lebanon Syria Palestine
Uncounted number in Iraq but history tell us that Britt’s lost 20,000 of its military in Iraq and the have 50% lost of their youth at that time.

Imagine how many Iraqi killed compare the weaponry and advance weaponry used at that time compare it with Iraqi they had only stone and swords.

Finally why you pay bribes are you Christian goes read your bible well, you will find both sides are making Sin.
Moreover what make you pay on behalf of Israelis? Are you Israeli or Zionist?

Last thing keep in mind Iraq war as example and speak unless you’re idiot and living in black bubble.

Gray, actually, the Iranians are not Arabs. They’re Persians.

trooth: “Did Arab history have any massacre of Jews like what Christian did to the Jews?”

That’s irrelevant. First, I said the Arabs have committed more crimes than Israel. I meant contemporary crimes, not things a thousand years or more old. But, if you want to compare, why are Arabs and Muslims all over the ME? They conquered those territories and ruled them against the will of the peoples already there. Talk to the Persians about Arab crimes. The Crusades began with a plea from the head of the Orthodox Church to help defend Constantinople from Muslim invaders; had the Muslims not invaded Europe, there would have been no Crusades. Finally, again, all that is irrelevant to Israel’s history. It hasn’t existed a century yet, so blaming it for ancient crimes is mere propaganda – no, not mere, it is bloody, hateful propaganda.

trooth: “Go read the history well.”

I suggest you go read it again. You clearly didn’t understand it the first time.

trooth: “Those billion is a Bribe for Egyptian’s government to keep their promises not the Egyptian’s nation … By bribe not democracy, ohhhh my boy well done”

At least our money is buying peace; it’s a shame it takes bribes for Arab nations to keep their promises.

Gray, you are right as Muslims and Arab we did not have problems with Jews as religion and as people.

Motherless the peace if left in hands of people of both sides it will achievable but, both side showing lack of leadership and ignorance to fill full the needs of their nations for peace.

This just last year I met two Israelis man 25 years old, women 30 year old both expressed their view sand they side we are living their in Israeli Arab and Jews and love each other eat food each other and the added if people left without interferences from politicians we will have no problems!!

So if really the leaders work toward peace it will be achievable with hanging on this matter or that, all will be solved and will ease to final agreements.

This bring my point I made earlier that both side should set with desire for ending the cycle of blood supervised by committee have the confidence and credibility and not biased you like it or not US not sincere host for nay peace process this not my world its years of US paled game in ME with successive administrations.

Enjoy you Falafel and Shawarma Gray

True, but Israelis do eat a lot of shawarma and if it wasn’t for felafel they would probably starve.

The Sons of Ishmael and the Sons of Isaac share many customs….

Living between people in peace never been and not essential means they are same or they adapted the customs each other.

You and you ilk should learn to respect and treats others as you love to be respected and treated you and your like.

Here is question for you answer it, if coming back to comment here, don’t change the discussion:

Are N. Koreans changed and adapted your customs made US negotiating peacefully to resolve their differences?
Why your loving State department not advised your administration leader go to invade N. Korea?

Again is it China adapted your customs made US talk friendly or say respectably for solving the differences?
Or from your delusions mind you should go and invade N. Korea and China to see peace flourishing between US and them?

Did your folk Paul Bremer brings his customs with him to teach Iraq when he created CPA on Sec. basis? Or those $9.0 Billions and un-metered Iraqi oil these customs you talking about that your man demonstrated well while he is sheikh on Iraq?
Or that follow Chalabi who grownup on you land he brought the customs of theft of Banks?

The tribe life with Arab world did not been a key issue here when it comes to countries and nations. I hope you’re not like those jerks who believe in Noah Freedman of “Nation Building” in Iraq and other part in ME.
Those nations taught Noah Freedman and other how to write and read. These nations had the richness lived for thousands of years are better understand how to live in peace with others than a nation had 400 years old, isn’t?

Finally Ymarsakar, I ending my comment with verse of Hammurabi Code of Law that may give you some wisdom from 5000 years Code of Law introduced to this world:

If an ox be a goring ox, and it shown that he is a gorer, and he do not bind his horns, or fasten the ox up, and the ox gore a free-born man and kill him, the owner shall pay one-half a mina in money.