Comments on: Obama: hope is not enough (nor is talk) http://neoneocon.com/2008/02/29/obama-hope-is-not-enough-nor-is-talk/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:26:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: A Prime Example of The Left Lying to Itself and Everyone Else http://neoneocon.com/2008/02/29/obama-hope-is-not-enough-nor-is-talk/#comment-107576 A Prime Example of The Left Lying to Itself and Everyone Else Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:44:39 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/02/29/obama-hope-is-not-enough-nor-is-talk/#comment-107576 [...] folks on the right disagreed, even to the rank-and-file. In February of 2008, for instance, one commenter on a blog said that it is a bad idea to meet with dictators. “A U.S. Presidential meeting [...] [...] folks on the right disagreed, even to the rank-and-file. In February of 2008, for instance, one commenter on a blog said that it is a bad idea to meet with dictators. “A U.S. Presidential meeting [...]

]]> By: The Reality Check » Blog Archive » A Prime Example of The Left Lying to Itself and Everyone Else http://neoneocon.com/2008/02/29/obama-hope-is-not-enough-nor-is-talk/#comment-107245 The Reality Check » Blog Archive » A Prime Example of The Left Lying to Itself and Everyone Else Mon, 20 Apr 2009 16:43:55 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/02/29/obama-hope-is-not-enough-nor-is-talk/#comment-107245 [...] folks on the right disagreed, even to the rank-and-file. In February of 2008, for instance, one commenter on a blog said that it is a bad idea to meet with dictators. “A U.S. Presidential meeting [...] [...] folks on the right disagreed, even to the rank-and-file. In February of 2008, for instance, one commenter on a blog said that it is a bad idea to meet with dictators. “A U.S. Presidential meeting [...]

]]> By: A Prime Example of The Left Lying to Itself and Everyone Else | Social Debate: Barack and American Politics http://neoneocon.com/2008/02/29/obama-hope-is-not-enough-nor-is-talk/#comment-107230 A Prime Example of The Left Lying to Itself and Everyone Else | Social Debate: Barack and American Politics Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:13:32 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/02/29/obama-hope-is-not-enough-nor-is-talk/#comment-107230 [...] folks on the right disagreed, even to the rank-and-file. In February of 2008, for instance, one commenter on a blog said that it is a bad idea to meet with dictators. “A U.S. Presidential meeting [...] [...] folks on the right disagreed, even to the rank-and-file. In February of 2008, for instance, one commenter on a blog said that it is a bad idea to meet with dictators. “A U.S. Presidential meeting [...]

]]> By: A Prime Example of The Left Lying to Itself and Everyone Else : Stop The ACLU http://neoneocon.com/2008/02/29/obama-hope-is-not-enough-nor-is-talk/#comment-107229 A Prime Example of The Left Lying to Itself and Everyone Else : Stop The ACLU Mon, 20 Apr 2009 11:03:39 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/02/29/obama-hope-is-not-enough-nor-is-talk/#comment-107229 [...] folks on the right disagreed, even to the rank-and-file. In February of 2008, for instance, one commenter on a blog said that it is a bad idea to meet with dictators. “A U.S. Presidential meeting [...] [...] folks on the right disagreed, even to the rank-and-file. In February of 2008, for instance, one commenter on a blog said that it is a bad idea to meet with dictators. “A U.S. Presidential meeting [...]

]]> By: A Prime Example of The Left Lying to Itself and Everyone Else - Warner_Todd_Huston’s blog - RedState http://neoneocon.com/2008/02/29/obama-hope-is-not-enough-nor-is-talk/#comment-107226 A Prime Example of The Left Lying to Itself and Everyone Else - Warner_Todd_Huston’s blog - RedState Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:34:55 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/02/29/obama-hope-is-not-enough-nor-is-talk/#comment-107226 [...] folks on the right disagreed, even to the rank-and-file. In February of 2008, for instance, one commenter on a blog said that it is a bad idea to meet with dictators. “A U.S. Presidential meeting [...] [...] folks on the right disagreed, even to the rank-and-file. In February of 2008, for instance, one commenter on a blog said that it is a bad idea to meet with dictators. “A U.S. Presidential meeting [...]

]]> By: Gray http://neoneocon.com/2008/02/29/obama-hope-is-not-enough-nor-is-talk/#comment-59831 Gray Tue, 04 Mar 2008 02:38:53 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/02/29/obama-hope-is-not-enough-nor-is-talk/#comment-59831 <i>What seems implied by many of the comments here are (1) the better answer to our disagreements with Iran and Cuba (and no doubt a long list of other nations) is military invasion rather than diplomacy; and (2) that those who disagree with (1) must be leftist radicals whose loyalty to America is suspect by that disagreement</i> The problem is that 'diplomacy' as you use it here consists of recognition, and ass-kissing. Remember when Castro Shook his finger under Carter's nose and lectured him about human rights? The dirty Lift just loved that! You personally loved it when Hugo Chaves insulted our president and called him 'the devil'. You would love to see Ahmadinejad humiliate the US with Obama as the agent of concession and conciliation. No, we can't trust leftists to 'negotiate' with strong-men or dictators, they aren't honest brokers--remember Madeliene Albright shaking her fat ass for Kim Jong Il !? What seems implied by many of the comments here are (1) the better answer to our disagreements with Iran and Cuba (and no doubt a long list of other nations) is military invasion rather than diplomacy; and (2) that those who disagree with (1) must be leftist radicals whose loyalty to America is suspect by that disagreement

The problem is that ‘diplomacy’ as you use it here consists of recognition, and ass-kissing.

Remember when Castro Shook his finger under Carter’s nose and lectured him about human rights?

The dirty Lift just loved that!

You personally loved it when Hugo Chaves insulted our president and called him ‘the devil’.

You would love to see Ahmadinejad humiliate the US with Obama as the agent of concession and conciliation.

No, we can’t trust leftists to ‘negotiate’ with strong-men or dictators, they aren’t honest brokers–remember Madeliene Albright shaking her fat ass for Kim Jong Il !?

]]> By: Gringo http://neoneocon.com/2008/02/29/obama-hope-is-not-enough-nor-is-talk/#comment-59661 Gringo Sun, 02 Mar 2008 17:21:21 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/02/29/obama-hope-is-not-enough-nor-is-talk/#comment-59661 Anyone who follows Hugo of Hugoslavia, and has listened to his press conferences or his TV show, Alo Presidente, knows that Hugo talks, and everyone listens. Hugo never met a quiet person he didn't like. In the sense that both persons talk and both persons listen, a DIALOGUE with Hugo is an Oxymoron. Anyone who follows Hugo of Hugoslavia, and has listened to his press conferences or his TV show, Alo Presidente, knows that Hugo talks, and everyone listens. Hugo never met a quiet person he didn’t like.

In the sense that both persons talk and both persons listen, a DIALOGUE with Hugo is an Oxymoron.

]]> By: House of Eratosthenes http://neoneocon.com/2008/02/29/obama-hope-is-not-enough-nor-is-talk/#comment-59658 House of Eratosthenes Sun, 02 Mar 2008 16:23:18 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/02/29/obama-hope-is-not-enough-nor-is-talk/#comment-59658 [...] is inspired by He Who Walks On Water and wants to dialog with our enemies, to quote herself on the subject of useless and potentially dangerous talk: …even therapists must [...] [...] is inspired by He Who Walks On Water and wants to dialog with our enemies, to quote herself on the subject of useless and potentially dangerous talk: …even therapists must [...]

]]> By: Chris White http://neoneocon.com/2008/02/29/obama-hope-is-not-enough-nor-is-talk/#comment-59649 Chris White Sun, 02 Mar 2008 14:50:43 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/02/29/obama-hope-is-not-enough-nor-is-talk/#comment-59649 <i>Lenin did, Hitler did it, Mao did it, Castro did it, Chavez did it… and B.O. The only reason to “talk” with Iran is to make it clear that a nuclearized Iran is unacceptable. ... What Obama means by “talk” is either accomodation or capitulation; both amount to appeasement. Barak <b>Hussein</b> Obama</i> An outbreak of ODS anyone? Perhaps Obama's talk about talk appeals to many Americans who have concluded that talking is a better approach than preventative (as opposed to preemptive) military action for advancing our long-term interests. Perhaps many Americans have heard the voices of those <i>dissenters inside an oppressive dictator’s nation</i> who point out that shunning and threatening those regimes tends to strengthen their grip and better enable them to suppress such internal dissent by making their own intransigence seem more reasonable in the face of the current American administration's strategy of threats and disengagement. What do those commenting here make of the fact that Iran has become the first nation in the area to recognize the government in Iraq? How does having Akhmedinejad be one of the first "world leaders" to visit Iraq and engage in diplomatic conversations there change the dynamic in the ME? Is this one of those "unintended consequences" of the way the Bush administration's handling of democratization in Iraq has intensified rather than reduced the differences among the Shiite, Sunni, and Kurdish populations? What seems implied by many of the comments here are (1) the better answer to our disagreements with Iran and Cuba (and no doubt a long list of other nations) is military invasion rather than diplomacy; and (2) that those who disagree with (1) must be leftist radicals whose loyalty to America is suspect by that disagreement. Lenin did, Hitler did it, Mao did it, Castro did it, Chavez did it… and B.O.

The only reason to “talk” with Iran is to make it clear that a nuclearized Iran is unacceptable. … What Obama means by “talk” is either accomodation or capitulation; both amount to appeasement.

Barak Hussein Obama

An outbreak of ODS anyone?

Perhaps Obama’s talk about talk appeals to many Americans who have concluded that talking is a better approach than preventative (as opposed to preemptive) military action for advancing our long-term interests. Perhaps many Americans have heard the voices of those dissenters inside an oppressive dictator’s nation who point out that shunning and threatening those regimes tends to strengthen their grip and better enable them to suppress such internal dissent by making their own intransigence seem more reasonable in the face of the current American administration’s strategy of threats and disengagement.

What do those commenting here make of the fact that Iran has become the first nation in the area to recognize the government in Iraq? How does having Akhmedinejad be one of the first “world leaders” to visit Iraq and engage in diplomatic conversations there change the dynamic in the ME? Is this one of those “unintended consequences” of the way the Bush administration’s handling of democratization in Iraq has intensified rather than reduced the differences among the Shiite, Sunni, and Kurdish populations?

What seems implied by many of the comments here are (1) the better answer to our disagreements with Iran and Cuba (and no doubt a long list of other nations) is military invasion rather than diplomacy; and (2) that those who disagree with (1) must be leftist radicals whose loyalty to America is suspect by that disagreement.

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://neoneocon.com/2008/02/29/obama-hope-is-not-enough-nor-is-talk/#comment-59580 Ymarsakar Sun, 02 Mar 2008 01:34:19 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/02/29/obama-hope-is-not-enough-nor-is-talk/#comment-59580 Conservatives are Obama's enemies, not Castro or Amanie. Conservatives are Obama’s enemies, not Castro or Amanie.

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