Comments on: Throwing grandma under the bus http://neoneocon.com/2008/03/19/throwing-grandma-under-the-bus/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 18:32:51 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Artfldgr http://neoneocon.com/2008/03/19/throwing-grandma-under-the-bus/#comment-61534 Artfldgr Fri, 21 Mar 2008 00:18:09 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/03/19/throwing-grandma-under-the-bus/#comment-61534 Nicely said sergey. Communism has never been reached, socialism was supposed to turn into that when the world was socialist. So to practice socialism is to be practicing communism. even now its turning back to its old form in a savvy smarter way. the appearance of 4G entities is part of that. the cure against that is separate states. in the monostate world, non state entities wage war inside the beast. they more we move towards that temporary singularity, the more we get internal bugs that we cant get rid of. police state is not going to get rid of them, it will just create the kind of condition where one destroys ones home swatting at mosquitoes. and if they dont stagnate soon, then space will opern up, and the whole country thing will start over again... progress can only be slowed... not halted... even in the worst stagnation periods little innovations still happened. Nicely said sergey.

Communism has never been reached, socialism was supposed to turn into that when the world was socialist. So to practice socialism is to be practicing communism. even now its turning back to its old form in a savvy smarter way.

the appearance of 4G entities is part of that. the cure against that is separate states. in the monostate world, non state entities wage war inside the beast. they more we move towards that temporary singularity, the more we get internal bugs that we cant get rid of. police state is not going to get rid of them, it will just create the kind of condition where one destroys ones home swatting at mosquitoes.

and if they dont stagnate soon, then space will opern up, and the whole country thing will start over again…

progress can only be slowed… not halted…
even in the worst stagnation periods little innovations still happened.

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]]> By: Sergey http://neoneocon.com/2008/03/19/throwing-grandma-under-the-bus/#comment-61496 Sergey Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:52:21 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/03/19/throwing-grandma-under-the-bus/#comment-61496 Matt, social dynamics is actually much more complex than most people believe. It can not be stabilized at arbitrary points, only some discrete set of points are inherently stable. So slippery slopes really exist. And they lead to traps, from which it is very hard to escape. One of them is welfare state, like present day Europe. To expand entitlements is always easier than curb them, and from some point it became impossible. This is a trap, and it dooms economy to stagnation and undermines public moral irreparably, when people can not anymore be self-reliable, depending on state in all their ways. This is a road to serfdom. Matt, social dynamics is actually much more complex than most people believe. It can not be stabilized at arbitrary points, only some discrete set of points are inherently stable. So slippery slopes really exist. And they lead to traps, from which it is very hard to escape. One of them is welfare state, like present day Europe. To expand entitlements is always easier than curb them, and from some point it became impossible. This is a trap, and it dooms economy to stagnation and undermines public moral irreparably, when people can not anymore be self-reliable, depending on state in all their ways. This is a road to serfdom.

]]> By: Fredjr http://neoneocon.com/2008/03/19/throwing-grandma-under-the-bus/#comment-61491 Fredjr Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:51:01 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/03/19/throwing-grandma-under-the-bus/#comment-61491 Honestly, I had long made up my mind about Obama and this speech I file away under "it is what it is." In fact, it is rare that I allow a politician's particular speech on the stump to sway me. I do go the cold, rational route and look for his or her track record, voting record, ideas, and associations (political and otherwise). Obama is a lawyer. It is unfortunate that a very high proportion of the Democratic Party's congressmen and senators are LAWYERS. Lawyers craft language to find a way out of anything. They triangulate. I cannot fathom why anyone who has done his or her homework and is not ever going to vote for Obama would be terribly interested in his speech in Philadelphia. And the only value in that speech was that he began to really put his cards on the table: he is a statist - a socialist, in the tradition of an FDR and an LBJ. "Sergey" stated it best on a prior thread: what he is proposing to do are policies that have already failed. Honestly, I had long made up my mind about Obama and this speech I file away under “it is what it is.” In fact, it is rare that I allow a politician’s particular speech on the stump to sway me. I do go the cold, rational route and look for his or her track record, voting record, ideas, and associations (political and otherwise).

Obama is a lawyer. It is unfortunate that a very high proportion of the Democratic Party’s congressmen and senators are LAWYERS. Lawyers craft language to find a way out of anything. They triangulate.

I cannot fathom why anyone who has done his or her homework and is not ever going to vote for Obama would be terribly interested in his speech in Philadelphia. And the only value in that speech was that he began to really put his cards on the table: he is a statist – a socialist, in the tradition of an FDR and an LBJ. “Sergey” stated it best on a prior thread: what he is proposing to do are policies that have already failed.

]]> By: Matt http://neoneocon.com/2008/03/19/throwing-grandma-under-the-bus/#comment-61489 Matt Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:38:47 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/03/19/throwing-grandma-under-the-bus/#comment-61489 Tom <i>utterly irreversible downhill course.</i> What evidence do you have to support this? Is it because you are a Republican? I seem to recall many Demicrats saying the same thing when Bush came into office surrounded by a Republican congress. Are we better off or worse off today? Ask the voters. Many think worse off. The war? The economy? The national debt? Environmental concerns? Maybe none of these matter? Maybe because America is better than either Obama or Bush? I personally don't see the sky falling. It's funny how far right and far left see the sky falling whenever there guy doesn't win. Tom
utterly irreversible downhill course.

What evidence do you have to support this? Is it because you are a Republican?
I seem to recall many Demicrats saying the same thing when Bush came into office surrounded by a Republican congress.
Are we better off or worse off today? Ask the voters. Many think worse off. The war? The economy? The national debt? Environmental concerns? Maybe none of these matter?
Maybe because America is better than either Obama or Bush?
I personally don’t see the sky falling. It’s funny how far right and far left see the sky falling whenever there guy doesn’t win.

]]> By: Shaldag http://neoneocon.com/2008/03/19/throwing-grandma-under-the-bus/#comment-61484 Shaldag Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:52:33 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/03/19/throwing-grandma-under-the-bus/#comment-61484 "We are all racists now and if you elect me, I will get rid of racism." “We are all racists now and if you elect me, I will get rid of racism.”

]]> By: Thomas http://neoneocon.com/2008/03/19/throwing-grandma-under-the-bus/#comment-61481 Thomas Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:52:43 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/03/19/throwing-grandma-under-the-bus/#comment-61481 nyomythus Says: "–Oh, it’s all about my race … no need to break a sweat Obama, just kick back on the race card" Well, he is probably finishing his campaign off... he was running as a post racial candidate... and this playing the race card is going to sink... nyomythus Says:

“–Oh, it’s all about my race … no need to break a sweat Obama, just kick back on the race card”

Well, he is probably finishing his campaign off… he was running as a post racial candidate… and this playing the race card is going to sink…

]]> By: Stan http://neoneocon.com/2008/03/19/throwing-grandma-under-the-bus/#comment-61469 Stan Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:31:07 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/03/19/throwing-grandma-under-the-bus/#comment-61469 Obama -- my qualifications for president are not affected at all by my embrace of an anti-American virulent racist as my closest spiritual advisor. Because my grandmother who raised me is also a racist. ? Obama — my qualifications for president are not affected at all by my embrace of an anti-American virulent racist as my closest spiritual advisor.

Because my grandmother who raised me is also a racist.

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]]> By: Al Fin http://neoneocon.com/2008/03/19/throwing-grandma-under-the-bus/#comment-61465 Al Fin Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:48:25 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/03/19/throwing-grandma-under-the-bus/#comment-61465 Obama belongs to the whole wide world now. He is quite the champion of students, blacks, muslims, cult-mongers, and leftist revolutionaries across the globe. Americans who will actually vote in November tend to feel uncomfortable with cult figures and years-long sustained emotion-based appeals. They would rather have a reason not to vote for the self-proclaimed world saviour. Jeremiah Wright is only one of many excellent reasons to send this cult tumbling directly to ground. Do not pass the White House. Do not collect the Presidency. Obama belongs to the whole wide world now. He is quite the champion of students, blacks, muslims, cult-mongers, and leftist revolutionaries across the globe.

Americans who will actually vote in November tend to feel uncomfortable with cult figures and years-long sustained emotion-based appeals. They would rather have a reason not to vote for the self-proclaimed world saviour.

Jeremiah Wright is only one of many excellent reasons to send this cult tumbling directly to ground. Do not pass the White House. Do not collect the Presidency.

]]> By: Tom http://neoneocon.com/2008/03/19/throwing-grandma-under-the-bus/#comment-61462 Tom Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:27:55 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/03/19/throwing-grandma-under-the-bus/#comment-61462 There is a small chance, but only a very small chance, the Wright-Obama fuss is the first crack in the wall of "African-American culture" that may, over time, lead to its collapse. It is an exclusionary culture reveling in paranoia and self-pity. Wright is just the tip of the iceberg. Obama is the lipstick on this pig. A sublime manipulator. If he becomes President, bringing a filibuster-proof Congress with him, the country will in 4 years be placed on an utterly irreversible downhill course. If writing this makes me "racist", so be it. There is a small chance, but only a very small chance, the Wright-Obama fuss is the first crack in the wall of “African-American culture” that may, over time, lead to its collapse. It is an exclusionary culture reveling in paranoia and self-pity. Wright is just the tip of the iceberg.
Obama is the lipstick on this pig. A sublime manipulator. If he becomes President, bringing a filibuster-proof Congress with him, the country will in 4 years be placed on an utterly irreversible downhill course.
If writing this makes me “racist”, so be it.

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