Comments on: The case of the flying thong buckle: I can relate http://neoneocon.com/2008/07/09/the-case-of-the-flying-thong-buckle-i-can-relate/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:27:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Sergey http://neoneocon.com/2008/07/09/the-case-of-the-flying-thong-buckle-i-can-relate/#comment-77209 Sergey Mon, 14 Jul 2008 08:01:45 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/07/09/the-case-of-the-flying-thong-buckle-i-can-relate/#comment-77209 Nyomythus, moral and religious convictions can't proved or disproved, they are articles of faith, no sense to dispute them. Obviously, we have different sets of core beliefs. I only note an important fact: in extremal conditions religious people have more moral fortitude and survive better, then atheists and agnostics, and often are moral authorities for others and so help them, too. Nyomythus, moral and religious convictions can’t proved or disproved, they are articles of faith, no sense to dispute them. Obviously, we have different sets of core beliefs. I only note an important fact: in extremal conditions religious people have more moral fortitude and survive better, then atheists and agnostics, and often are moral authorities for others and so help them, too.

]]> By: nyomythus http://neoneocon.com/2008/07/09/the-case-of-the-flying-thong-buckle-i-can-relate/#comment-77171 nyomythus Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:08:06 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/07/09/the-case-of-the-flying-thong-buckle-i-can-relate/#comment-77171 Holding to the heart any of the three monotheist religious doctrines is immoral to begin with; and yes those who cling to and help others survive harsh environments are moral people. Holding to the heart any of the three monotheist religious doctrines is immoral to begin with; and yes those who cling to and help others survive harsh environments are moral people.

]]> By: Sergey http://neoneocon.com/2008/07/09/the-case-of-the-flying-thong-buckle-i-can-relate/#comment-77022 Sergey Sat, 12 Jul 2008 20:30:22 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/07/09/the-case-of-the-flying-thong-buckle-i-can-relate/#comment-77022 You completely misunderstand my point about coal mines and concentration camps: only moral people survive there, demoralized ones perish first. And moral people are those who do not cling to physical survival by any means, but are ready to die, if needed, but stay moral people. You completely misunderstand my point about coal mines and concentration camps: only moral people survive there, demoralized ones perish first. And moral people are those who do not cling to physical survival by any means, but are ready to die, if needed, but stay moral people.

]]> By: nyomythus http://neoneocon.com/2008/07/09/the-case-of-the-flying-thong-buckle-i-can-relate/#comment-76998 nyomythus Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:08:51 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/07/09/the-case-of-the-flying-thong-buckle-i-can-relate/#comment-76998 You're not welcome in the trenches of western liberalism. Sergey, it looks like you and the islamofascist share at least one core belief; perhaps you'd have lots to talk and laugh about with them. On the coal mine number, yes yes death is often used to handle the apostate if you're saying the religious ones shun or kill off the non-believers. So the moral people die, or feign credulity, and all we're left with are the crazies to be set free to raise another generation of dysfunctional people; I see something of how it works, sad, but maybe one day we'll extirpate such from humanity; ha, fat chance, but a moral effort nonetheless. You’re not welcome in the trenches of western liberalism. Sergey, it looks like you and the islamofascist share at least one core belief; perhaps you’d have lots to talk and laugh about with them. On the coal mine number, yes yes death is often used to handle the apostate if you’re saying the religious ones shun or kill off the non-believers.

So the moral people die, or feign credulity, and all we’re left with are the crazies to be set free to raise another generation of dysfunctional people; I see something of how it works, sad, but maybe one day we’ll extirpate such from humanity; ha, fat chance, but a moral effort nonetheless.

]]> By: Sergey http://neoneocon.com/2008/07/09/the-case-of-the-flying-thong-buckle-i-can-relate/#comment-76878 Sergey Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:55:28 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/07/09/the-case-of-the-flying-thong-buckle-i-can-relate/#comment-76878 I have nothing against sexuality as such, both in men in women. But as every other instinct in human, it must know its place and purpose, because otherwise it would became destructive and dehumanizing, that is, a demonic force. Sexual fetishism, pornography and frivolity are manifestations of this depersonalisation and dehumanisation, and jewelry decorated underwear is one of expression of this sinful tendency. I have nothing against sexuality as such, both in men in women. But as every other instinct in human, it must know its place and purpose, because otherwise it would became destructive and dehumanizing, that is, a demonic force. Sexual fetishism, pornography and frivolity are manifestations of this depersonalisation and dehumanisation, and jewelry decorated underwear is one of expression of this sinful tendency.

]]> By: Sergey http://neoneocon.com/2008/07/09/the-case-of-the-flying-thong-buckle-i-can-relate/#comment-76876 Sergey Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:29:54 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/07/09/the-case-of-the-flying-thong-buckle-i-can-relate/#comment-76876 There is no atheists in fox-holes and narcissists in barrack-rooms and bomb-shelters: they simply do not survive there. Read Viktor Frankl's "Psychologist in Concentration Camp". Or, may be, Bruno Bethelheim's description of analogue experience. My uncle served 18 years in Vorkuta coal mines, one of the worst Gulag camps. He told me a lot about who can and who cannot survive in such places, and why. There is no atheists in fox-holes and narcissists in barrack-rooms and bomb-shelters: they simply do not survive there. Read Viktor Frankl’s “Psychologist in Concentration Camp”. Or, may be, Bruno Bethelheim’s description of analogue experience. My uncle served 18 years in Vorkuta coal mines, one of the worst Gulag camps. He told me a lot about who can and who cannot survive in such places, and why.

]]> By: Sergey http://neoneocon.com/2008/07/09/the-case-of-the-flying-thong-buckle-i-can-relate/#comment-76873 Sergey Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:16:43 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/07/09/the-case-of-the-flying-thong-buckle-i-can-relate/#comment-76873 Hyperhumanizm - that is, human-worship, so universally adopted nowadays in the West, is not an authentic expression of Judeo-Chistian value system, but a secular aberration and manifestation of decadence. It will disappear completely at the next turn of history, when inavoidable clash of civilizations will escalate into hot war, most probably, thermonuclear. Self-restriction, ascetic self-sacrifice and discipline, conscientious submission of individual whims to higher, supraindividual goals will again become imperatives of collective survival, as it was in the days of WWII, and a new Great Awakening will follow. Hyperhumanizm – that is, human-worship, so universally adopted nowadays in the West, is not an authentic expression of Judeo-Chistian value system, but a secular aberration and manifestation of decadence. It will disappear completely at the next turn of history, when inavoidable clash of civilizations will escalate into hot war, most probably, thermonuclear. Self-restriction, ascetic self-sacrifice and discipline, conscientious submission of individual whims to higher, supraindividual goals will again become imperatives of collective survival, as it was in the days of WWII, and a new Great Awakening will follow.

]]> By: Sergey http://neoneocon.com/2008/07/09/the-case-of-the-flying-thong-buckle-i-can-relate/#comment-76870 Sergey Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:56:00 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/07/09/the-case-of-the-flying-thong-buckle-i-can-relate/#comment-76870 There is nothing mizoginst or fascistic in acceptance of misfortune as a punishment for sin - it is a fairly authentic, traditional Christian attitude, equally applied both for men and women. And to slap misbehaving children is not abuse, but sometimes neccessary disciplinary measure, when words are not enough to stop them. Pain is a quick teacher; just as to slap hysterical woman at cheek (slightly, of course) is the best way to stop a feat of hysteria, when a child lost self-control and don't respond to reproach, slap him is the best way to return him to reality. There is nothing mizoginst or fascistic in acceptance of misfortune as a punishment for sin – it is a fairly authentic, traditional Christian attitude, equally applied both for men and women. And to slap misbehaving children is not abuse, but sometimes neccessary disciplinary measure, when words are not enough to stop them. Pain is a quick teacher; just as to slap hysterical woman at cheek (slightly, of course) is the best way to stop a feat of hysteria, when a child lost self-control and don’t respond to reproach, slap him is the best way to return him to reality.

]]> By: Jaime http://neoneocon.com/2008/07/09/the-case-of-the-flying-thong-buckle-i-can-relate/#comment-76823 Jaime Thu, 10 Jul 2008 20:07:12 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/07/09/the-case-of-the-flying-thong-buckle-i-can-relate/#comment-76823 I totally agree. Pretty soon there will be bat cages on bridges too, so that no-one can jump. I totally agree. Pretty soon there will be bat cages on bridges too, so that no-one can jump.

]]> By: Tatyana http://neoneocon.com/2008/07/09/the-case-of-the-flying-thong-buckle-i-can-relate/#comment-76819 Tatyana Thu, 10 Jul 2008 19:32:08 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/07/09/the-case-of-the-flying-thong-buckle-i-can-relate/#comment-76819 nyomythus: he was not trying to be cute, trust me. Just as he was not trying to be cute when he expressed solidarity with the child abuser. See, he explained it himself as <i>cultural habit in Russia </i>. People here tend not to believe that such an unapologetically mysoginistic people could be for real. nyomythus: he was not trying to be cute, trust me. Just as he was not trying to be cute when he expressed solidarity with the child abuser.
See, he explained it himself as cultural habit in Russia .
People here tend not to believe that such an unapologetically mysoginistic people could be for real.

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