i read a recent poll that said even liberals are surprisingly against Barack because they still hold some ingrained prejudices and when they think about black people the adjectives that immediately come to mind are negative ones. the fact that you can stand hear and almost pretend that you are “above” race is really incredulous. you call Barack a blatant liar yet refuse to tell the truth even as you accuse him of the same thing. we would all start off on the right foot if you all would just admit what everybody already knows, but doesn’t articulate anyway. explain to the people why a man who, your new friends claim, has never disagreed with his party or their politic suddenly is on the opposite end of the issues you believe in when you’ve been a staunch democrat all your life?? how does that happen? if you believed what your party believed and he’s never differed from what they believe, then he believes what you believe, but here you are – claiming the impossible – that miraculously – he does not. why? i wonder? you said here it’s because he “lied” and apparently better than anyone in history this far. maybe you think that way because your current president is like George Washington – y’know, he never told a lie either – so they say… but then again “they” write the history books. i bet you’re one of those people who never even listened to that whole sermon of Rev Wright’s in question. bet you never cared about Trinity before this moment. bet you don’t have anything negative to say about Palin and her pastor, Rev Muthee. i’m willing to bet any money you don’t touch that one. bet you have nothing to say about a woman who would infer at a rally that women who don’t support other women have a special place in hell. she may have quoted someone else, but obviously, we know why people quote other people – to drive home a message or emphasize a belief or to characterize and give weight to an ideology. sometimes they use the quote as a prologue or intro to their central message – and hers was “if you’re a woman and you don’t vote for me – you’re going to hell.” but i wonder how you party abandoners spin that in your heads. and here’s a shocker – that’s a lie, too. i bet you don’t even read the Bible, but if you did – you’d know there’s no where in it where God says anyone who doesn’t support a woman goes to hell. what He does say is anyone who doesn’t repent and believe in Christ will find themselves in a place specially created for them – and that place is called hell. imagine – a woman practicing fear and intimidation – or as Bush would call it – “shock and awe” against her own kind…over an election, of all things, to a high seat in a country that she and her husband hate anyway. if Barack is “palling” around with terrorists – she’s sleeping with one. but i bet you don’t see it that way, either. she’s just practicing her states rights to want to secede – as i’ve read many conservatives say of late. but had Barack been talking about independence for Illinois – whole different ballgame. Barack’s a liberal spender they say – but no one even mentions how Palin inherited a city with NO DEBT and when she left two years later those 300 dog sledding, moose eating, all americans were saddled with a maasive 30 million dollars in debt and she walked on to the next big thing. not only that – her running mate co-signed nearly all of the world’s most INFAMOUS big spender, GW’s, budgets and missions that have snapped not only shattered this country’s piggy bank, but the domino effect of shattering the world’s markets is apparently okay with you guys, too. talk about duplicity, selfishness, pride of race, and lack of concern for your fellow human beings.

THEN you make the charge that Barack is the racist one yet Palin tells her rally mates “He doesn’t represent OUR america?” oh really? who is this “our”? and what “america” is she referring to if not the one we all inhabit? this just in – a republican support group distributed a NEWSLETTER by mail and through email with a picture of Barack on a $10 dollar bill surround, not by traditional u.s. money symbols, but with watermelons, ribs, and a bucket of chicken?! LOL. i cracked up laughing at that – and get this, the chairwoman said “it was just food” to her – she made no connection with Barack and those foods HISTORICALLY and RACIALLY identified with blacks. but it’s not about race – of course not. at a convention some dudes were selling “obama waffles” with Barack dressed up like a big eyed, big eared Aunt Jamima coon eying a plate of steaming waffles. that wasn’t racist either though, right? and another thing – joe the plummer saying Barack tap dances better than Sammy Davis Jr was completely inappropriate and racially charged – but you don’t see that either do you? course not – cuz it’s actually BARACK and his crew doing it and the media is editing it to look like McCain and his party supporters. talk about double standards – this group right here foams at the mouth when Barack says “lipstick on a pig” KNOWING it wasn’t directed at Palin, btw – he also said something about smelly or dead fish in the same sentence, but i wonder why the media didn’t want to take that extra step and connect that part to her as well. biased much? picking and choosing our battles for us much? i wodner. but that doesn’t compare to the woman calling HERSELF a dog. apparently that’s okay with you all – maybe you see her as that way anyway. when you consider the viciousness and deadliness and rabidness of a pitbull – maybe it’s fitting for her? a pig sounds better by degrees, i think… they just root around in their own crap not bothering anyone, and they taste good. a pitbull will kill anybody – they’ve been known to snap for no reason and even kill babies that lived in the home with them. but the pitbull gets printed on all the t-shirts. yeah, i guess that’s a better characterization. that wouldn’t offend me at all. oh – and talk about sexism, people have the audacity to claim that the media is tripping the woman up, but no one is holding her accountable for what comes out of her own mouth. and then they say “they’re picking on her” and how it’s not fair to grill her like they grill the boys. hahaha. why isn’t it fair, exactly? but what gets me – for you neocons or neo neocons (will the new names ever stop.. shows how fractured you all are) these same people who champion family values and morals and ethics are the same people who give themselves free passes on strict morals codes they judge others harshly for – for them it becomes a “personal and private family matter.” for others – it’s “see how those people are, that’s why they’re no good.” for certain groups it’s preached “THAT lifestyle is not acceptable. fags and lesbos are disgusting, there’s a special place in hell for people like them!” then when the expose drops in the media (with photos) of them getting THEIR backs broken by their gay usher or gay deacon lover of 20 years it’s, “We all have weaknesses. Let those who haven’t sinned cast the first stone because you shouldn’t judge others – only God can do that.” when Joe Biden makes a remark that Palin “is pretty” it’s seen as condescending somehow, yet the same people who have a problem with don’t have a problem with their own party printing t-shirts that say “Sarah Palin: I’d drill that!” or “Sarah Palin: VPILF!” or “The Geezer and The Gidget” or “Our VP is hotter than YOURS.” talk about duplicity and empty rhetoric – McCain has shamelessy pandered to such a low degree that it’s sickening – choosing an unqualified woman to get women’s votes (not because he thought she was truly qualified), using her family story to make her an object lesson that illustrates some core christian principles people feel strongly about, using Trig’s medical condition to pander to mom’s with sick kids – my gosh, when he kept talking about Autism and how Sarah knows so much about it because of lil Trig – i really felt disgusted. cuz lil Trig doesn’t have autism. so what? he’s determined to find a cure for autism because of lil Trig (which won’t help HIM, incidentally) but he’ll leave the poor Down Syndrome kids to suffer with no funding and no cure (which WOULD help lil Trig). you don’t see anything wrong with that kind of campaigning? you don’t see the “lies” stamped all over that kind of “ooh, i’ll be people will love it when i unleash this new on on em!” – his whole campaign is like a game of powerball. he just wants to win and he’ll shoot and any and everything trying to up his numbers, not because that stuff is a deeply held conviction, but because he’s trying to capitalize on people’s weaknesses. he has seen and learned that american people, for the most part, like being puppets. they don’t want to think TOO much. they’re comfortable with where they sit in the world – and i mean the majority culture. they don’t want to rock that boat at all – they just wanna talk like they wanna rock it. but given a chance to actually change- the run towards what the know. much easier to fall backward than to fall forward.

and don’t think i’m an Obama shill. i’m not – i just have come across a lot of pages like this one of late and it’s really starting to bother me that we as a nation are refusing to get this issue right. people are making their decisions based on trivial things like “he tells lies” – like we’re to believe you think that republicans don’t tell lies. even YOU tell lies – and i bet you still think you’re trustworthy. i bet you still think you’re a good person. i bet you’d still vote for you if you were running for office – and you’d want other people to vote for you, too. not only that – i bet you’ve stolen things before. i bet you’ve cheated before – on a test AND on a person. you may even have had a lesbian lover or an abortion that you’ve not been truthful about. maybe hit someone’s car and broken a mirror and didn’t leave a note. committed tax fraud by not including all income, etc etc…. and even with all that, i bet you still think you’re a decent human being. maybe even an exemplary one. i bet, even knowing what you’ve said and what you’ve done, you’s still say if the world had more people like me it would be a better place. i’m not sticking up for Barack – but i find it incredibly hard to believe that you jumped parties because he lies and the republicans don’t. i really do. i suspect you find it hard to believe too – let alone express to an audience. that makes no sense – everybody, including Washington, lies.

Also – someone asked how Barack is uniting and not divisive – did you perhaps see the DNC??? It was nothing but a sea of colors. Across every kind of line you can think of – Barack’s candidacy and his convention and rally have been a place where people from all nationalities, all walks of life, and all forms of beliefs have stood together to support a man they see can help start the move towards a truly United country for the first time in history. It may not happen during his tenure as pres, but it’s out there – alive and pulsing that this race issue may finally be on the road to getting addressed in this country. either way – the discussion is about to happen whether people like it or not and change of the ilk is on the cusp. Barack represents something that Americans want desperately – and that’s to move beyond this idea that “white is might and right.” do you even realize that every other race in this country feels marginalized and looked down upon and “less than” by white people? it’s your values, your ethics, your standards, your laws, your morals that have been championed above all others throughout the history of the world. do you realize that people are seen as terrorists and enemies because they don’t fit into the global “white values” system? or don’t live up to the global “white government and ethics” principles? how absolutely arrogant and self-serving that is. you only do business with people who think like you. you only provide real success and opportunity to people who adopt your cultural systems and beliefs. you bar other nations who don’t want to play by your rules and you assume always that your rules and your ways are THE best rules and best ways. it’s incredibly insulting to the “other” humans that have managed to survive on this rock, too. and have resisted trying to make their way the only way – but sought to coexist. Barack represents someone who has been on the OTHER side of that kind of thinking. not that he’s above it – we’ve all either been totally assimilated to adopt and believe your “white values” are the only “good” ones, or we’re at various stages in the assimilation process. what he can speak to and what he knows is the struggle to do that. you simply cannot survive in this country without adopting those principles upheld by “white values.” those are the only principles they recognize and reward – any deviation or assertion of values other than theirs may end up costing you everything as Barack nearly found out. there’s a problem with that kind of thinking. and it’s become almost painfully clear having read many posts like this and many conservative news sites and blogs. it’s disconcerting to say the least. america’s underbelly is exposed with this kind of thing and it’s not pretty – it proves to me that racism is still very much alive and kicking in this country – it was just disguised as something else. even if people don’t articulate it – the sense of entitlement and this idea of a closeted “white supremacy” is rearing it’s fierce and blatant head. look at the people who fall in line behind the RNC. where is the diversity there? where is the MESSAGE that there’s a place for EVERY American in that party? where is the message that we can agree on some core/key issues, but here’s where the RNC gives you freedom to be you and still be us? there is no message there like that. maybe there will be – after this.

i consider myself a FUNDAMENTAL Christian, but i’m not a republican. i see nothing fundamental or Christian about a party whose core values are “get it on your own, and if you can’t – sucks for you.” when the Bible says – what you do for the least of Mine, you do for Me. there’s nothing Christian about a party that doesn’t believe sick people (even poor sick ones) don’t have a right to healthcare in the riches nation on earth, thus far. The Bible says -when the disciples were around they healed all manner of sickness and disease that the people had. and I’m willing to bet ALL those people were not just poor, but living in abject poverty. i don’t see Christianity in a party that is so stingy and tight and inhumane that they’d rather pay not pay taxes at all than have a penny of their taxes go to someone less fortunate, persons whom they know nothing about but categorically see as “lazy, black, illiterate, welfare kings and queens with five or six kids with ridiculous ghetto names and shameful morals and behaviors.” The Bible says, when it came time to pay taxes, Jesus had a gold coin removed from the sea and said “Whose face is on that coin? Render to Ceasar (the ruler and chief taxer) what belongs to Ceasar, and render to God what belongs to God.” in other words – He paid His taxes because it was the established belief and law of the land. i don’t think it’s Christian to NOT teach your children how to function in this world, leaving them to their own devices and weaknesses. the Bible says, “train a child in the way that he should go and when he’s older he will not depart from it.” notice, He didn’t say “pass the buck” or “well, you can’t watch them all the time.” i don’t think it’s Christian to have one set of standards for some people and another set of standards for everyone else. Which they do by making excuses for their behaviors while sending everyone to hell for doing the same things they do. The Bible says, “God HATES uneven scales.” And also that vengeance is His – He will repay according to Word. What measure you give out shall be returned unto you. so i am not a republican because they say their Christian, but their beliefs and behaviors are anything but, and people are starting to see this now. Jesus was never so petty, so greedy, so money hungry, so compassion stingy. He was never so heartless and i doubt 100% that He would embrace that party were He walking with is today.

He wouldn’t embrace the Democrats either. i’m not a democrat at all. i’m a new breed of American who’s REALLY tired of the lies on both sides. i want people in office like me – who believe and do the Word of God. the republicans “believe” the Word, but don’t practice it. the democrats practice “the Word”, but don’t really acknowledge it. those are more important than some of the things stated here.

i’ve really had enough of this kind of talk. it’s useless. it’s like people don’t know how to think beyond four people and two parties. we’re so dumb that THIS is what qualifies for intelligent discourse. no wonder we rank so low educationally – we’re too dumb to try to see the whole picture. we only focus on the parts that appease our simple pleasures, simple prejudices, simple lusts, simple ideas, and simple minds. we do need to wake up. time is running out. you’re not the only american you’re obligated to think about. if that’s your mentality – you’re useless. you really are. what does America stand for to you? what is worth fighting for? if Obama/Biden and McCain/Palin all died in a plane crash – would your hopes and dreams and ideals for this country die with them? would you be utterly lost? or do you have a spine? a backbone? an ethic that has nothing to do with whose running and everything to do with the essence of who you are as a human being? if you have a family – do you plan your and their lives based on the information you have for a day or a week or a month or even a year? i’m sure you have some long term and short term goals that you keep in mind regardless of the day to day ups and downs. think of America like THE family, not a family. think about how all of us make this country work, make it stand for what it stands for. and plan for that future not election to election, or candidate to candidate – plan for that future with every decision you make every day of your life. americans are like little spoiled stupid kids who wanna play house but they don’t wanna grow up. it’s time for america to grow up so we can be America – proper.

No, he’s not green.

What that has to do with the post is beyond me.

Seriously.

I knew nothing about any of that before hand so why it should have factored into what I said is beyond me – if it makes you feel better go for it. As happens I drink a lot of kool-aid myself, I have to cut out sugar and generally hate diet drinks. Sugar free kool aid doesn’t have a saccharine taste to it so I drink quite a bit of it. Since what you write here is all I have I will go by what you have written here. Further I’m not sure why someone from Tennessee should disparage someone because they are from Alaska (as far as I can tell most of us figure you guys are mostly conservative too), but go for that too if you want.

I will believe you are skeptical about politicians when you are skeptical about Obama. You can tell me you aren’t all day long but accepting nearly everything he says at face value belies that statement. Again, actions speak louder than words.

My guess is that such an easy way of dismissing anyone you disagree with is a core part of why you think as you do. Either you are crazy enough to think I doubt you for things I knew nothing of or you are looking for reasons to justify your idea with no basis in reality. Either way you are still a hack and I’m not sure which way one should consider “better” (hack or stupid – I don’t really want to be either one, however I find most leftist seem to insist on being stupid for whatever reason).

“My only point is that this is a non-issue. Race should never be an issue.”

The right side did not make it an issue, Obama did. He has during the primary fight with Hillary and is doing so now with McCain. It is even now substantiated that he meant so with his comments on the people pictured in money. That you are *still* saying what you are is more indicative of your defense of a racist than anything I could ever say.

Race should not be an issue and if Obama didn’t constantly bring it up it wouldn’t. He is using his race to deflect any form of disparagement as “racist”, you are doing the same thing. It isn’t about his race, it is about him using his race as a shield (which is a form of racism).

Since we are obviously lacking in our ability to come up with those substantive issue that Obama is clearly the winner how about we read some of them? Tell us what they are – does he have a better stance of FISA, NAFTA, the Border, Taxes, Energy – what? Really come on – tell us where he is the clear winner? Being a sceptic that has obviously looked at everything there is an has an informed opinion this should be easy.

The one and only thing he is clear on is Iraq and I think this particular website has beat that into the ground and more (surely you aren’t saying Neo-neocon doesn’t spend enough time there – not that I’m complaining or anything as that is part of why I read it, just that saying this place doesn’t talk about it is, well, crazy). Other than that what does your finely tuned skepticism see in him? Of course, point out that he wants to remove the troops an believes that this will somehow work out but since you are a skeptic I’m sure you know why we don’t really buy that he will somehow make it right just by being President and hoping.

“Your actions with respect to Obama tell us what you say isn’t true. At best you have little ability at critical thinking, at worst you are simply lying in an attempt to make your views more palatable to others.”

Given that I am young, sheltered, naive and drink kool-aid, I see no reason why you shouldn’t believe me when I say I am skeptical about politicians- even the O man himself. I am from Alaska, after all (another reason why I am so far removed from reality- at least in your little reality).

Christopher-

The 10% of West Virginians voting for Hilary who stated that race mattered was a poll number I heard on the news. Maybe that’s too tainted by the MSM for you.

-

Regardless, I would challenge anyone to substantiate claims from my comments that I am an “Obamamaniac.” I am a total ultra-liberal, no doubt about it, but I am not one to defend, let alone worship any mere politician. My only point is that this is a non-issue. Race should never be an issue.