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	<title>Comments on: The odd trio: McCain and Britney and Obama</title>
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		<title>By: douglas</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/08/01/the-odd-trio-mccain-and-britney-and-obama/#comment-80704</link>
		<dc:creator>douglas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 07:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Bill Press is just a dem hack.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

As someone who remembers when he was a political &#039;commentator&#039; on the local news in Los Angeles, let me assure you, he is exactly that- and always has been.  no answer is too tortured for him if it sticks to the script.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Bill Press is just a dem hack.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>As someone who remembers when he was a political &#8216;commentator&#8217; on the local news in Los Angeles, let me assure you, he is exactly that- and always has been.  no answer is too tortured for him if it sticks to the script.</p>
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		<title>By: Vince P</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/08/01/the-odd-trio-mccain-and-britney-and-obama/#comment-80382</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Left is infantalizing all public discourse.</description>
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		<title>By: Begging an Answer &#124; curtis schweitzer (dot) net</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/08/01/the-odd-trio-mccain-and-britney-and-obama/#comment-80378</link>
		<dc:creator>Begging an Answer &#124; curtis schweitzer (dot) net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 17:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Winer asks a great question in the comments, and NeoNeocon writes about issue no. 1 on this list of political [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Trochilus</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/08/01/the-odd-trio-mccain-and-britney-and-obama/#comment-80376</link>
		<dc:creator>Trochilus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 17:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In modern American politics, it seems to me that a very real gap has emerged in the way some people become so personally invested with their perception of the meaning or intention of others.  And, it is reflected in what they are so willing to publicly say about the &quot;real&quot; intentions of others, especially public figures.  

I&#039;m not wistfully hearkening back to the &quot;&lt;em&gt;good old days&lt;/em&gt;&quot; notion that we should get back to &quot;&lt;em&gt;the way we were&lt;/em&gt;&quot; -- times change, and perhaps predominently due to the internet, we relate more intensly, more quickly, and without any hesitation, than we ever did before.  So, maybe one inevitable byproduct of that is the &lt;em&gt;preservation&lt;/em&gt; (e.g., YouTube) of more out-and-out &quot;&lt;strong&gt;blurts&lt;/strong&gt;&quot; -- comments or rants that one might have decided &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; to say, given a little breather.

I honestly do not recall a prior time when so many people whose views or entertainment I might otherwise consider, are expressing such strange, and frequently poisonous notions about what they &quot;know&quot; public figures are thinking ---e.g., &quot;Bush derangement syndrome.&quot;  Press, Letterman, Olberman, to name a few . . . it&#039;s a very long list.

Now, I don&#039;t know whether your work as a therapist leads you to really understand better what makes people click, or whether it actually gives you a greater appreciation for how little we know about one another.  But I think you have taken a very good &quot;stab&quot; at undermining Press&#039;s risible claim.

But I am curious about what prompts a man like Bill Press to so confidently assert that the &quot;&lt;em&gt;celebrity ad&lt;/em&gt;&quot; is racist?  His explanation is so tortured that it is actually quite laughable.  It was my immediate reaction when I started reading it.  Now, I can imagine someone writing such palpable nonesense in a fit of passionate intensity, and then getting up and reading it &lt;em&gt;again&lt;/em&gt; the next morning over a cup of coffee.  At that point, it would be promptly sent to the cyberspace graveyard, with a large sigh of relief at having dodged the bullet of making a fool of one&#039;s self.  Bit not with Bill Press.

Is Press just a willing partisan tool who is offering his way of turning the around an emerging trend -- to poke a little well-deserved fun at Obama?  Is Press&#039;s thinking so twisted that he really believes what he is saying?  

I just cannot imagine ever hitting the &quot;&lt;strong&gt;publish&lt;/strong&gt;&quot; button on such rubbish.  But it seems to me that more and more people, even ones with reputations to uphold, cross that existential threshold, and do make similarly preposterous claims every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In modern American politics, it seems to me that a very real gap has emerged in the way some people become so personally invested with their perception of the meaning or intention of others.  And, it is reflected in what they are so willing to publicly say about the &#8220;real&#8221; intentions of others, especially public figures.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not wistfully hearkening back to the &#8220;<em>good old days</em>&#8221; notion that we should get back to &#8220;<em>the way we were</em>&#8221; &#8212; times change, and perhaps predominently due to the internet, we relate more intensly, more quickly, and without any hesitation, than we ever did before.  So, maybe one inevitable byproduct of that is the <em>preservation</em> (e.g., YouTube) of more out-and-out &#8220;<strong>blurts</strong>&#8221; &#8212; comments or rants that one might have decided <em>not</em> to say, given a little breather.</p>
<p>I honestly do not recall a prior time when so many people whose views or entertainment I might otherwise consider, are expressing such strange, and frequently poisonous notions about what they &#8220;know&#8221; public figures are thinking &#8212;e.g., &#8220;Bush derangement syndrome.&#8221;  Press, Letterman, Olberman, to name a few . . . it&#8217;s a very long list.</p>
<p>Now, I don&#8217;t know whether your work as a therapist leads you to really understand better what makes people click, or whether it actually gives you a greater appreciation for how little we know about one another.  But I think you have taken a very good &#8220;stab&#8221; at undermining Press&#8217;s risible claim.</p>
<p>But I am curious about what prompts a man like Bill Press to so confidently assert that the &#8220;<em>celebrity ad</em>&#8221; is racist?  His explanation is so tortured that it is actually quite laughable.  It was my immediate reaction when I started reading it.  Now, I can imagine someone writing such palpable nonesense in a fit of passionate intensity, and then getting up and reading it <em>again</em> the next morning over a cup of coffee.  At that point, it would be promptly sent to the cyberspace graveyard, with a large sigh of relief at having dodged the bullet of making a fool of one&#8217;s self.  Bit not with Bill Press.</p>
<p>Is Press just a willing partisan tool who is offering his way of turning the around an emerging trend &#8212; to poke a little well-deserved fun at Obama?  Is Press&#8217;s thinking so twisted that he really believes what he is saying?  </p>
<p>I just cannot imagine ever hitting the &#8220;<strong>publish</strong>&#8221; button on such rubbish.  But it seems to me that more and more people, even ones with reputations to uphold, cross that existential threshold, and do make similarly preposterous claims every day.</p>
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		<title>By: huxley</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/08/01/the-odd-trio-mccain-and-britney-and-obama/#comment-80364</link>
		<dc:creator>huxley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 16:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like &#039;em or not, Oprah and Schwarzenegger are accomplished individuals who built substantial careers a step at a time over decades.

Obama would be fine if he weren&#039;t interviewing for arguably the most important job on the planet. There was a time when even he knew better:

&quot;I got elected to the U.S. Senate. I haven&#039;t done anything yet.&quot; --Obama, Washington Post, Feb25, 2005.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like &#8216;em or not, Oprah and Schwarzenegger are accomplished individuals who built substantial careers a step at a time over decades.</p>
<p>Obama would be fine if he weren&#8217;t interviewing for arguably the most important job on the planet. There was a time when even he knew better:</p>
<p>&#8220;I got elected to the U.S. Senate. I haven&#8217;t done anything yet.&#8221; &#8211;Obama, Washington Post, Feb25, 2005.</p>
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		<title>By: cSimon</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/08/01/the-odd-trio-mccain-and-britney-and-obama/#comment-80278</link>
		<dc:creator>cSimon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 02:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Just as that New Yorker cartoon cover of Barack and Michelle Obama as Islamist terrorist and 60s “revolutionary” was meant to be about the hysteria of extremist Obama critics, so “Celebs” is meant to be about the hysteria of extremist Obama advocates.&quot;

Not!   It is what it is, just what you see:  juxtaposition of  Obama with other vapid, empty people (who both happen to be women, I believe, only because they fit the role) who are celebrities because.  Their celebrity feeds their increasing celebrity.  Why people are in awe?  THAT&#039;S the question.

Done.  No between the lines.  No sexual or racist overtones -- or undertones.  Geez........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Just as that New Yorker cartoon cover of Barack and Michelle Obama as Islamist terrorist and 60s “revolutionary” was meant to be about the hysteria of extremist Obama critics, so “Celebs” is meant to be about the hysteria of extremist Obama advocates.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not!   It is what it is, just what you see:  juxtaposition of  Obama with other vapid, empty people (who both happen to be women, I believe, only because they fit the role) who are celebrities because.  Their celebrity feeds their increasing celebrity.  Why people are in awe?  THAT&#8217;S the question.</p>
<p>Done.  No between the lines.  No sexual or racist overtones &#8212; or undertones.  Geez&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Terrye</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/08/01/the-odd-trio-mccain-and-britney-and-obama/#comment-80277</link>
		<dc:creator>Terrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 02:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These people must be stupid, or they think we are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These people must be stupid, or they think we are.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom the Redhunter</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/08/01/the-odd-trio-mccain-and-britney-and-obama/#comment-80262</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom the Redhunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 01:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you think Obama&#039;s whining today is bad, it&#039;ll increase tenfold if he drops in the polls.   He&#039;ll grow bitter and cling to his cliche&#039;s and prepared scripts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think Obama&#8217;s whining today is bad, it&#8217;ll increase tenfold if he drops in the polls.   He&#8217;ll grow bitter and cling to his cliche&#8217;s and prepared scripts.</p>
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		<title>By: stphnd</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/08/01/the-odd-trio-mccain-and-britney-and-obama/#comment-80259</link>
		<dc:creator>stphnd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 00:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today&#039;s &quot;The One&quot; ad is, as straight up satirical mockery, even better than the &quot;Celeb&quot; ad. Using the torrent of stupid things Obama has himself said up till now is the best strategy, I think. 

Let him be the &quot;One&#039; to destroy himself. Hegelian irony could be so fitting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s &#8220;The One&#8221; ad is, as straight up satirical mockery, even better than the &#8220;Celeb&#8221; ad. Using the torrent of stupid things Obama has himself said up till now is the best strategy, I think. </p>
<p>Let him be the &#8220;One&#8217; to destroy himself. Hegelian irony could be so fitting.</p>
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		<title>By: Sissy Willis</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/08/01/the-odd-trio-mccain-and-britney-and-obama/#comment-80258</link>
		<dc:creator>Sissy Willis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 00:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I wrote on my blog this afta,

Just as that New Yorker cartoon cover of Barack and Michelle Obama as Islamist terrorist and 60s &quot;revolutionary&quot; was meant to be about the hysteria of extremist Obama critics, so &quot;Celebs&quot; is meant to be about the hysteria of extremist Obama advocates. Neither has anything to do with Obama per se, beyond his ability to inhabit the superstar role of what Virginial Postrel has called &quot;the fresh young prince onto whom Democrats project their hopes and dreams.&quot;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://sisu.typepad.com/sisu/2008/08/im-able-by-mean.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I&#039;m able by means of a secret charm&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I wrote on my blog this afta,</p>
<p>Just as that New Yorker cartoon cover of Barack and Michelle Obama as Islamist terrorist and 60s &#8220;revolutionary&#8221; was meant to be about the hysteria of extremist Obama critics, so &#8220;Celebs&#8221; is meant to be about the hysteria of extremist Obama advocates. Neither has anything to do with Obama per se, beyond his ability to inhabit the superstar role of what Virginial Postrel has called &#8220;the fresh young prince onto whom Democrats project their hopes and dreams.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://sisu.typepad.com/sisu/2008/08/im-able-by-mean.html" rel="nofollow">I&#8217;m able by means of a secret charm</a></p>
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