Well, I’m different from Saddam in that I’m not a swaggering, old fascist raghead who murdered thousands of his innocent fellow countrymen; who got his ass rudely handed to him by the US military & friends – not once, but twice; who tried to salvage his big-man image by playing little power games with the UN and the US, putting his people at risk for his ego’s sake rather than working to ensure their welfare; who spent months hiding from his enemies but was finally captured while cowering in a dirty little hole in the ground; and who ended his days pissing himself at the end of a hangman’s rope.

Other than that, though, I guess maybe there is a resemblance.

We can’t convince every enemy of ours to become a friend.

What you call them “enemy of ours” it’s the product of Paul Bremer and if that made Iraqi frustrated and unhappy with you should give them some sympathy for not trusting you as such.
For the first year Ymarsakar Iraqis kept watching US what they can handed them of promises that US promised and there were no insurgencies for almost one year.

The problem starting by here was not “have the right people and the right people have us.” those guys from Al-Hakim, Bader Militia and Sader drilling Militia and other corrupt guys like Chalabi these your selection of start of what you call ” the right people and the right people have us” this the drama you lost Iraqi by getting WRONG people Ymarsakar.

Any way I think we went quite bit of the top thank you for your discussion. My concerns and more other people is the loose of people of Iraq and the disastrous war case scenario which may be can prevented in such away.

If you think America’s evacuation of Fallujah and our air strikes there is a representation of our “massive power”, then you must have no idea that the United States of America have only used 5% of our total war capacity in Iraq and Afghanistan.

If you think that’s “massive firepower”, then you’d be amazed at what the US can do full out.

The US recruits those who work with us and don’t just backstab us when it feels convenient. Or at least, that’s what DoD tries to do.

It’s working in Iraq cause it’s working. Cause we have the right people and the right people have us. You can talk about we need to do this or that, but you obviously could never have produced victory in Iraq like Petraeus has.

AQ is moving to Afghanistan, retreating like the US did at the Fall of Saigon. There’s nothing more definite than that. Sure, the Iranians and Russians will want to take a piece, they always do, and we’ll be ready for them. If our politicians don’t make a deal with Arab enemies, of course.

See, the only way the world is able to keep America in check and prevent the full release of our military power, is by these little games of diplomacy.

If I delusional as you speak what about these yours Ymarsakar:

The Forged Iraqi Letter: What Just Happened?

Ymarsakar I think there is confusion here.

Your comment about Russians comparing to US bombing insurgency that my point when it comes to war US have used massive power many Iraqi lost their life’s many are still detained for no charges, take in accounts these Iraqi had 35 bloody years that make things different also helped US new tactics to copy Saddam’s Sahwa when he spread money and support funny tribal local Warlords who calling themselves Sheiks.

I hope you read Arabic this article tell you what the similarities between Saddam after 1991 scenario and US after 2007 scenario with Son of Iraq Daughter of Iraq and Sahwa of Iraq you name it.

There is simple question here if US interested in united stable state of Iraq why then US refused to get these Sahwa fighters (were former enemies of ours) and formally they were Iraqi military personal (that your “propaganda” telling it’s the third big military in the world of its skilled and numbers and weaponry,) so why not recruit them back if that suite US goal instead of put them on payroll by US?

the rise and fall of Sons of Iraq (SoI)

صدام حسين ابتكر ( شيوخ التسعين ) وبوش ( شيوخ الصحوات ) .. تحولات لقب شيخ بين الوسط والجنوب قبل الاحتلال وبعده

Saddam invented The Nineties Sheikhs and G. W. Bush Invented Sahwa Sheikhs

The war is a horrible thing does not matter done by US or others there is no nice war and a gully war. US “propaganda throwing around” serving her goals and her war include your voice Ymarsakar here not mine as such.

No other army, including the Russian so called superpower army, could do that. The Russians lost a division in Chechnya, actually, when they tried that. And their Rules of Engagement were nowhere close to as restricted as our own.

When your armies can go into a hostile city and go door to door and conduct urban counter-insurgency, both with the door kicking and with recruiting local allies like the Sons of Iraq, who were former enemies of ours, then you can start talking about how the US is “not quite right” in how it conducts counter-insurgency operations.

What does your delusional beliefs about Iraq affect anything?

Todenhöfer: We don’t get to see the real war. Every day, American forces conduct about 100 military manoeuvres against the Iraqi population: bombardments, raids, shootings … We don’t get to see these manoeuvres because then the Pentagon would be forced to admit that it is still waging war against the Iraqi population.

Sadly your space used by some uncivilized guys here keep put their anger without engaging in the discussion of view different from them or they don’t like to hear them, this is reflects their attitudes of uncivilized and drawing attitude like Bugs, Artfldgr

This not quite right Ymarsakar.

What you call Shock & Awe war? is war of throwing orange on Iraqis during that time and even after five years US fighters keep bombing districts and town.

But what US did and doing in Iraq with help of Iranians Militia Bader (I know you don’t like this) make the ethnic cleansing and killing throwing dead bodies on the streets arresting tens of thousands of Iraqi just because they are youth holding them without charges all these acts to make havocs and surrender to occupier forces that’s what happened I don’t need to go further to say AQ came when US invaded Iraq when AQ was not in Iraq and there is no link between Iraq and AQ.