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		<title>By: books on nominal ledger systems</title>
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		<dc:creator>books on nominal ledger systems</dc:creator>
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		<title>By: SouthWind31</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 08:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Professor Steve Joordens said he wanted to have his 1,500-student, first-year psychology class write and think critically, but there was no money to hire teaching assistants required to do the extra marking. ,</description>
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		<title>By: flywheel</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How did this happen?

There is madness and dissembling running rampant!

We have enemies and we know they hate us because we are sure!

The enemy within will do us in!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How did this happen?</p>
<p>There is madness and dissembling running rampant!</p>
<p>We have enemies and we know they hate us because we are sure!</p>
<p>The enemy within will do us in!</p>
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		<title>By: neo-neocon</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 20:04:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anon: Lions and tigers and bears, oh my!</description>
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		<title>By: Artfldgr</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 19:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem isnt the facts, or their existence. 

The problem is that the lefts people will not get their information from a broad spectrum of sources. When they read other sources, its to scope out the varying ‘facts’ they might be able to attack. 

So in essence they are stuck in a feedback loop in which they have decided which sourves they like, then they don’t accept information from other places. 

A similar example of this would be the student that learned their facts in college, and so refuses to accept information that conflicts with the revisionism they learn in college. 

You mean every 6  seconds a woman is not raped?   Must be! That’s what we learned in womens studies, and it may even be higher than that!   of course the women’s studies course never told them how the number was found, and none of them figured out what that meant on the calculator 
&lt;i&gt;Given their own figures of one rape every six seconds, that meant there had to be 600 rapes an hour, 14,400 rapes a day, and 5,256,000 rapes a year, every year.&lt;/i&gt;

This number is many times the number that is known from criminal databases. A quick search will bring up numbers from all over the place. in news, from blogs, not for profits with VAW stats, and colleges. A sample below. 

5 seconds - www.kaliwalkersandrunners.com/new156638.html
6 minutes - www.amnestyusa.org/violence-against-women/violence-against-women---a-fact-sheet/page.do?id=1108440&amp;n1=3&amp;n2=39
46 seconds - hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/06/11/a-woman-is-raped-every-46-seconds-in-america-thats-78-rapes-each-hour/
2 mins - www.loyno.edu/womens.center/vday.html
20 seconds - www.dancinginthedarkness.com/articles.php?show=5&amp;arc=194


The point here is not to drum up the actual numbers (or make less of the crime), but to show a salient point that if you attended a school and it had these facts, you wouldn’t listen to someone that was going to tell you the real number. 

Here is a feminist source  that seeks to give a real number and honestly discuss things (just for the record not all who call themselves feminists are actually feminists. After all feminists want communism and there are a lot of women that just want the real facts out there so we can make real choices): www.ifeminists.net/introduction/editorials/2003/0902kirkland.html



So in womens studies they learn facts that are half truths and the left pumps them. yes women get raped, but not that number. yes men as a group make more than women as a group, but not due to discrimination, due to the choices that women make (they call it discrimination because they don’t run business the way that greer ran MS. Magazine and destroyed it the first go around. that if they don’t provide paid leave, benefits, and more socialist programs, then its discrimination). Men get custody, but only about 5% of the cases. 

All half truths. 

If I chose history instead. They would learn about mccarthy, and all the horrible things he did. and how there is a term for it “McCarthism”. However they wont learn that the guy lattimore, who coined the term in a book he wrote demonizing mccarthy, turned out to be a spy. This discovered later when the information from the Venona transcripts was made public. 




The list goes on to the point that I would literally spend months listing out the half truth information that they think is real but don’t know. 

So whats going to happen in this situation on the house issue is that when the Obama version comes on, they will think that the commercial is clever. Not realizing that some people buy houses as investments, and that mccain clearly showed that doing so was his wifes thing, not his. Do you know everything your wife or husband purchases? Many people with money keep their stuff separate so that they don’t have to worry about the other… (they share, its just easier bookkeeping if they have two piles and get to do what they want with them, and maybe a third common pool). 

However, the rezko stuff is not going to penetrate. The non lefts (which I prefer since the truth is that the vast majority are not conservatives, paleo or neo, and not this or that. they are just thinking people who don’t think communism and socialism, and such things are in our interest and so they oppose the left. but that doesn’t put them on the right. And I don’t like the terms since they have to do with peasants and royalty in france along the seine, and have nothing to do here, when we don’t have either!), will watch videos on both sides of the issue and they will know more before seeing it. the lefts will watch ONLY their own, and if they watch the other it will be with predetermined hate believing its all a lie. 


If you oppose them on their false information and half truths they will not listen. They will hodge podge and skip all around trying to reletevate or obfuscate or change the subject.  They find it impossible to linearly thing and discuss a subject and quickly resort to kitchen sinking though only throwing one sides sinks. 



Ultimately, whats going to happen is either Obama will win or lose. If he loses, we will get a continuation of everything in the past… endless broken records. Heck even russia today had to do what they always did (create a premise for invasion. They did it with Poland, and Czech, and ALL the others. that they were invited in to save the countries by the leaders, or in this case by groups of oppressed citizens. This is the bow to let the arguments divide us). 

Mccain is not so clean… but the difference is between communism slow, and communism fast. There really is no other alternative on the plates for a long time. 

Obama is an unknown card. At best he will be like carter. At worst he will be like chavez (or worse), and russia will provide the seeming justifications. Given all the groups and people that are real close to him, and their connections with the supreme soviet and whatever now is the modern equivalent of the comintern, we will not fare very well. 

Oh… the other thing is that the left also has a huge number of ‘positive thinkers’, these are people who never read the news, never updated their history, and so spend their days remembering the past in the best light. 

They loved the time of protest. Great songs, good friends, perhaps drugs, and orgies…  the dances, the parties… the cheap apartments… wearing fun clothes and expressing themselves. 

Ask them three good things that carter did and three bad things, and they go blank!  

Ask them what happened AFTER we left Vietnam… and they switch to their bubble world.. oh we celebrated.. and danced…  I even spit on a soldier! 

But ask them if they remember Vietnamese boat people. they will say yes. Ask them about Cambodian boat people, they will say yes. Ask them abound the killing fields and they will say yes, they saw that movie. 

Then tell them that that’s what happened to all those people when the communsits got them and we left. around 3 million people, whole families died, women, the children, the men…

They don’t belive it. they didn’t learn it in college so it must not be so, their professors would have told them. 

If they do believe they will try to equivocate it with some other event, like tuskeegee, or panama, iraq, etc…   

So ultimately its up to the real Americans.. the non lefts.. who just want to ive their lives and get on with it without interference. 


So the real question is… have enough of them been replaced by leftist yet that a November Revolution will happen and the new chavez type socialism take a permanent hold without hope of separation till there is a new nation…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem isnt the facts, or their existence. </p>
<p>The problem is that the lefts people will not get their information from a broad spectrum of sources. When they read other sources, its to scope out the varying ‘facts’ they might be able to attack. </p>
<p>So in essence they are stuck in a feedback loop in which they have decided which sourves they like, then they don’t accept information from other places. </p>
<p>A similar example of this would be the student that learned their facts in college, and so refuses to accept information that conflicts with the revisionism they learn in college. </p>
<p>You mean every 6  seconds a woman is not raped?   Must be! That’s what we learned in womens studies, and it may even be higher than that!   of course the women’s studies course never told them how the number was found, and none of them figured out what that meant on the calculator<br />
<i>Given their own figures of one rape every six seconds, that meant there had to be 600 rapes an hour, 14,400 rapes a day, and 5,256,000 rapes a year, every year.</i></p>
<p>This number is many times the number that is known from criminal databases. A quick search will bring up numbers from all over the place. in news, from blogs, not for profits with VAW stats, and colleges. A sample below. </p>
<p>5 seconds &#8211; <a href="http://www.kaliwalkersandrunners.com/new156638.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.kaliwalkersandrunners.com/new156638.html</a><br />
6 minutes &#8211; <a href="http://www.amnestyusa.org/violence-against-women/violence-against-women---a-fact-sheet/page.do?id=1108440&#038;n1=3&#038;n2=39" rel="nofollow">http://www.amnestyusa.org/violence-against-women/violence-against-women&#8212;a-fact-sheet/page.do?id=1108440&#038;n1=3&#038;n2=39</a><br />
46 seconds &#8211; hazel8500.wordpress.com/2006/06/11/a-woman-is-raped-every-46-seconds-in-america-thats-78-rapes-each-hour/<br />
2 mins &#8211; <a href="http://www.loyno.edu/womens.center/vday.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.loyno.edu/womens.center/vday.html</a><br />
20 seconds &#8211; <a href="http://www.dancinginthedarkness.com/articles.php?show=5&#038;arc=194" rel="nofollow">http://www.dancinginthedarkness.com/articles.php?show=5&#038;arc=194</a></p>
<p>The point here is not to drum up the actual numbers (or make less of the crime), but to show a salient point that if you attended a school and it had these facts, you wouldn’t listen to someone that was going to tell you the real number. </p>
<p>Here is a feminist source  that seeks to give a real number and honestly discuss things (just for the record not all who call themselves feminists are actually feminists. After all feminists want communism and there are a lot of women that just want the real facts out there so we can make real choices): <a href="http://www.ifeminists.net/introduction/editorials/2003/0902kirkland.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ifeminists.net/introduction/editorials/2003/0902kirkland.html</a></p>
<p>So in womens studies they learn facts that are half truths and the left pumps them. yes women get raped, but not that number. yes men as a group make more than women as a group, but not due to discrimination, due to the choices that women make (they call it discrimination because they don’t run business the way that greer ran MS. Magazine and destroyed it the first go around. that if they don’t provide paid leave, benefits, and more socialist programs, then its discrimination). Men get custody, but only about 5% of the cases. </p>
<p>All half truths. </p>
<p>If I chose history instead. They would learn about mccarthy, and all the horrible things he did. and how there is a term for it “McCarthism”. However they wont learn that the guy lattimore, who coined the term in a book he wrote demonizing mccarthy, turned out to be a spy. This discovered later when the information from the Venona transcripts was made public. </p>
<p>The list goes on to the point that I would literally spend months listing out the half truth information that they think is real but don’t know. </p>
<p>So whats going to happen in this situation on the house issue is that when the Obama version comes on, they will think that the commercial is clever. Not realizing that some people buy houses as investments, and that mccain clearly showed that doing so was his wifes thing, not his. Do you know everything your wife or husband purchases? Many people with money keep their stuff separate so that they don’t have to worry about the other… (they share, its just easier bookkeeping if they have two piles and get to do what they want with them, and maybe a third common pool). </p>
<p>However, the rezko stuff is not going to penetrate. The non lefts (which I prefer since the truth is that the vast majority are not conservatives, paleo or neo, and not this or that. they are just thinking people who don’t think communism and socialism, and such things are in our interest and so they oppose the left. but that doesn’t put them on the right. And I don’t like the terms since they have to do with peasants and royalty in france along the seine, and have nothing to do here, when we don’t have either!), will watch videos on both sides of the issue and they will know more before seeing it. the lefts will watch ONLY their own, and if they watch the other it will be with predetermined hate believing its all a lie. </p>
<p>If you oppose them on their false information and half truths they will not listen. They will hodge podge and skip all around trying to reletevate or obfuscate or change the subject.  They find it impossible to linearly thing and discuss a subject and quickly resort to kitchen sinking though only throwing one sides sinks. </p>
<p>Ultimately, whats going to happen is either Obama will win or lose. If he loses, we will get a continuation of everything in the past… endless broken records. Heck even russia today had to do what they always did (create a premise for invasion. They did it with Poland, and Czech, and ALL the others. that they were invited in to save the countries by the leaders, or in this case by groups of oppressed citizens. This is the bow to let the arguments divide us). </p>
<p>Mccain is not so clean… but the difference is between communism slow, and communism fast. There really is no other alternative on the plates for a long time. </p>
<p>Obama is an unknown card. At best he will be like carter. At worst he will be like chavez (or worse), and russia will provide the seeming justifications. Given all the groups and people that are real close to him, and their connections with the supreme soviet and whatever now is the modern equivalent of the comintern, we will not fare very well. </p>
<p>Oh… the other thing is that the left also has a huge number of ‘positive thinkers’, these are people who never read the news, never updated their history, and so spend their days remembering the past in the best light. </p>
<p>They loved the time of protest. Great songs, good friends, perhaps drugs, and orgies…  the dances, the parties… the cheap apartments… wearing fun clothes and expressing themselves. </p>
<p>Ask them three good things that carter did and three bad things, and they go blank!  </p>
<p>Ask them what happened AFTER we left Vietnam… and they switch to their bubble world.. oh we celebrated.. and danced…  I even spit on a soldier! </p>
<p>But ask them if they remember Vietnamese boat people. they will say yes. Ask them about Cambodian boat people, they will say yes. Ask them abound the killing fields and they will say yes, they saw that movie. </p>
<p>Then tell them that that’s what happened to all those people when the communsits got them and we left. around 3 million people, whole families died, women, the children, the men…</p>
<p>They don’t belive it. they didn’t learn it in college so it must not be so, their professors would have told them. </p>
<p>If they do believe they will try to equivocate it with some other event, like tuskeegee, or panama, iraq, etc…   </p>
<p>So ultimately its up to the real Americans.. the non lefts.. who just want to ive their lives and get on with it without interference. </p>
<p>So the real question is… have enough of them been replaced by leftist yet that a November Revolution will happen and the new chavez type socialism take a permanent hold without hope of separation till there is a new nation…</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 17:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FDR used the little rhyme &quot;Marton and Barton and Fish&quot; to great
political effect disparaging his opponent&#039;s friends and associates.   

Can we do something similar like ...

    &quot;Marshall and Rezko and Ayres&quot;  ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FDR used the little rhyme &#8220;Marton and Barton and Fish&#8221; to great<br />
political effect disparaging his opponent&#8217;s friends and associates.   </p>
<p>Can we do something similar like &#8230;</p>
<p>    &#8220;Marshall and Rezko and Ayres&#8221;  ?</p>
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		<title>By: nyomythus</title>
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		<dc:creator>nyomythus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>unless kungfu sells T-Shirts, he&#039;s only advancing the evil capitalist system...

PRICELESS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>unless kungfu sells T-Shirts, he&#8217;s only advancing the evil capitalist system&#8230;</p>
<p>PRICELESS</p>
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		<title>By: nyomythus</title>
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		<dc:creator>nyomythus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Watch it when you can, but essentially it&#039;s a lame excuse for a counter-attack with its premise being wealth-envy; which of course is the standard far Left attempt to shift the ethical standard from &quot;wealth is good&quot; or &quot;wealth is bad&quot; -- which when you also apply it to Obama, well, the argument argues against itself, lol; anti-Reason as opposed to tried and true classical Reason. The far Left (or Multicultural or Post-Modern Left) can propagate this epistemology because the essential spirit of their horrible slogan, &quot;We Support Our troops, When they Shoot Their Offices&quot; IS a marketable commodity – which is, yes,  one vast chasm of tautologies; sky dive with these morons and you find that the stuff in your back pack isn&#039;t a parachute, it&#039;s utter stupidity, which one last time ... is a marketable commodity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watch it when you can, but essentially it&#8217;s a lame excuse for a counter-attack with its premise being wealth-envy; which of course is the standard far Left attempt to shift the ethical standard from &#8220;wealth is good&#8221; or &#8220;wealth is bad&#8221; &#8212; which when you also apply it to Obama, well, the argument argues against itself, lol; anti-Reason as opposed to tried and true classical Reason. The far Left (or Multicultural or Post-Modern Left) can propagate this epistemology because the essential spirit of their horrible slogan, &#8220;We Support Our troops, When they Shoot Their Offices&#8221; IS a marketable commodity – which is, yes,  one vast chasm of tautologies; sky dive with these morons and you find that the stuff in your back pack isn&#8217;t a parachute, it&#8217;s utter stupidity, which one last time &#8230; is a marketable commodity.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomass</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kungfu Says: 

&quot;This campaign has finally gotten interesting for me. Love me some mudslinging. Check out this ad, where Obama hits back on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7PfSEtiXPw
&quot;

I can&#039;t watch it at work, can anyone sum it up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kungfu Says: </p>
<p>&#8220;This campaign has finally gotten interesting for me. Love me some mudslinging. Check out this ad, where Obama hits back on youtube:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7PfSEtiXPw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7PfSEtiXPw</a><br />
&#8221;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t watch it at work, can anyone sum it up?</p>
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		<title>By: kungfu</title>
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		<dc:creator>kungfu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This campaign has finally gotten interesting for me.  Love me some mudslinging.  Check out this ad, where Obama hits back on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7PfSEtiXPw

Priceless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This campaign has finally gotten interesting for me.  Love me some mudslinging.  Check out this ad, where Obama hits back on youtube:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7PfSEtiXPw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7PfSEtiXPw</a></p>
<p>Priceless!</p>
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