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		<title>By: O Bloody Hell</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/08/23/obamas-pick-why-its-the-democratic-mccain/#comment-82904</link>
		<dc:creator>O Bloody Hell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 16:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;  is strongest on foreign policy

Yeah, but he&#039;s always WRONG... lol.

&quot;I told you guys to go get me the guy who had the &lt;i&gt;most experience&lt;/i&gt; with foreign policy... I thought you&#039;d have sense enough to know I meant the guy who had the most experience being &lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;right&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;, dammit!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;  is strongest on foreign policy</p>
<p>Yeah, but he&#8217;s always WRONG&#8230; lol.</p>
<p>&#8220;I told you guys to go get me the guy who had the <i>most experience</i> with foreign policy&#8230; I thought you&#8217;d have sense enough to know I meant the guy who had the most experience being <b><i>right</i></b>, dammit!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: daveg</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/08/23/obamas-pick-why-its-the-democratic-mccain/#comment-82897</link>
		<dc:creator>daveg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Obama is so inexperienced that an experienced veep will effectively be running things. &lt;/i&gt;

Which is ironic given that the Dems have been saying for eight years that Cheney was running the country with the imbecile Bush as his puppet.  You know, as if it was a &lt;i&gt;bad&lt;/i&gt; thing.

So, where&#039;s The Change?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Obama is so inexperienced that an experienced veep will effectively be running things. </i></p>
<p>Which is ironic given that the Dems have been saying for eight years that Cheney was running the country with the imbecile Bush as his puppet.  You know, as if it was a <i>bad</i> thing.</p>
<p>So, where&#8217;s The Change?</p>
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		<title>By: njcommuter</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/08/23/obamas-pick-why-its-the-democratic-mccain/#comment-82847</link>
		<dc:creator>njcommuter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:10:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama is so inexperienced that an experienced veep will effectively be running things.  Obama needs someone he can dominate.  That someone is not, and probably never will be, Shrillary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama is so inexperienced that an experienced veep will effectively be running things.  Obama needs someone he can dominate.  That someone is not, and probably never will be, Shrillary.</p>
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		<title>By: strcpy</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/08/23/obamas-pick-why-its-the-democratic-mccain/#comment-82783</link>
		<dc:creator>strcpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The hostility aside between Obama and Hillary she would be a terrible choice for him as VP. Not in the electable sense - I think that would be great, but just that the way she is, her supporters are, and Obama&#039;s general lack of forcefulness she would have run roughshod over him. I am pretty sure that he realizes it (Hillary said there was no real contact over it and I see no reason to believe otherwise).

In fact, that in general makes it hard for Obama to pick a candidate. To really fit with him he would need a Washington outsider with name recognition that had just enough &quot;experience&quot; in government to help with the &quot;no experience&quot; problem he had yet not enough over shadow him. Further he needed said candidate to appeal to a different demographic than he does as he is pretty much and &quot;all or nothing&quot; in each demographic.

That person doesn&#039;t exist. He *has* to have someone with experience so they have to be a Washington insider. Further he has to be real careful that he doesn&#039;t pick someone that will greatly overshadow him - real hard to do. Those two are a main priority and there are some out there that fit that. In fact there are some Governors out there that would also bring in a few fairly large demographics (Bill Richardson comes to mind here).

but then I can&#039;t really see them attaching themselves to Obama. They are amongst the democrats that realize that he has no where to go but down and you don&#039;t attach your anchor to a sinking ship.

So yes, I am fairly sure that Biden wasn&#039;t remotely his first choice - Biden brings *nothing* positive to the table and only negatives (if Obama hadn&#039;t been pushing the &quot;different candidate&quot; so hard the attack dog mentality would have helped, now it just makes him look even more hypocritical than ever). Even his biggest supporters know this - it&#039;s been *more* than enough time to figure out how to spin even a remotely decent pick and they still haven&#039;t found one yet.

I guess at least Biden isn&#039;t going to overshadow him, even amongst the general democrats he is seen as something of a crank.

Now, lets see who McCain is going to pick. As I have said for ages Obama can not win the election but McCain is perfectly capable of loosing it. McCain has enough neutral to good choices it *should* be hard to pick, but I have all the faith in the world he could pick a pro-abortion, anti-gun, big government vice president in an attempt to &quot;bridge the gap&quot; and loose too many reluctant supporters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The hostility aside between Obama and Hillary she would be a terrible choice for him as VP. Not in the electable sense &#8211; I think that would be great, but just that the way she is, her supporters are, and Obama&#8217;s general lack of forcefulness she would have run roughshod over him. I am pretty sure that he realizes it (Hillary said there was no real contact over it and I see no reason to believe otherwise).</p>
<p>In fact, that in general makes it hard for Obama to pick a candidate. To really fit with him he would need a Washington outsider with name recognition that had just enough &#8220;experience&#8221; in government to help with the &#8220;no experience&#8221; problem he had yet not enough over shadow him. Further he needed said candidate to appeal to a different demographic than he does as he is pretty much and &#8220;all or nothing&#8221; in each demographic.</p>
<p>That person doesn&#8217;t exist. He *has* to have someone with experience so they have to be a Washington insider. Further he has to be real careful that he doesn&#8217;t pick someone that will greatly overshadow him &#8211; real hard to do. Those two are a main priority and there are some out there that fit that. In fact there are some Governors out there that would also bring in a few fairly large demographics (Bill Richardson comes to mind here).</p>
<p>but then I can&#8217;t really see them attaching themselves to Obama. They are amongst the democrats that realize that he has no where to go but down and you don&#8217;t attach your anchor to a sinking ship.</p>
<p>So yes, I am fairly sure that Biden wasn&#8217;t remotely his first choice &#8211; Biden brings *nothing* positive to the table and only negatives (if Obama hadn&#8217;t been pushing the &#8220;different candidate&#8221; so hard the attack dog mentality would have helped, now it just makes him look even more hypocritical than ever). Even his biggest supporters know this &#8211; it&#8217;s been *more* than enough time to figure out how to spin even a remotely decent pick and they still haven&#8217;t found one yet.</p>
<p>I guess at least Biden isn&#8217;t going to overshadow him, even amongst the general democrats he is seen as something of a crank.</p>
<p>Now, lets see who McCain is going to pick. As I have said for ages Obama can not win the election but McCain is perfectly capable of loosing it. McCain has enough neutral to good choices it *should* be hard to pick, but I have all the faith in the world he could pick a pro-abortion, anti-gun, big government vice president in an attempt to &#8220;bridge the gap&#8221; and loose too many reluctant supporters.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Lofquist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Lofquist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 04:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Neo,

I have thought for many years (60 or so) that elections are determined more by negatives than positives. Obama was right in rejecting Hillary. He&#039;s in a world of hurt and his best strategy is to not present more targets. Apparently he didn&#039;t realize that Biden is a pretty big target himself.

Regards,
Roy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Neo,</p>
<p>I have thought for many years (60 or so) that elections are determined more by negatives than positives. Obama was right in rejecting Hillary. He&#8217;s in a world of hurt and his best strategy is to not present more targets. Apparently he didn&#8217;t realize that Biden is a pretty big target himself.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Roy</p>
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		<title>By: Perfected democrat</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/08/23/obamas-pick-why-its-the-democratic-mccain/#comment-82772</link>
		<dc:creator>Perfected democrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 03:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Little correction to the last sentence above, please... It&#039;s the europeanization of American culture, no wonder Putin, the Communist Chinese and the jihadis are licking their chops...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Little correction to the last sentence above, please&#8230; It&#8217;s the europeanization of American culture, no wonder Putin, the Communist Chinese and the jihadis are licking their chops&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Perfected democrat</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/08/23/obamas-pick-why-its-the-democratic-mccain/#comment-82769</link>
		<dc:creator>Perfected democrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 02:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the selection of Joe, B.O. with his usual &quot;audacity&quot;, has shown his true interest, getting elected at any cost, and Biden his lack of integrity, since it has, after all, not been all that long since Joe gave B.O. the compliment of being &quot;clean&quot;, at least...  From Carter to Pelosi to Howie to Teddie to Soros to Gore, what an incredible menagerie of dishonest, duplicitous, opportunistic, erratic and incompetent blowhards, shallow left-wing fools and crass hypocrites the dimocrats have morphed into the last several decades...  It&#039;s the europeanization of American culture, no wonder the jihadis are licking their chops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the selection of Joe, B.O. with his usual &#8220;audacity&#8221;, has shown his true interest, getting elected at any cost, and Biden his lack of integrity, since it has, after all, not been all that long since Joe gave B.O. the compliment of being &#8220;clean&#8221;, at least&#8230;  From Carter to Pelosi to Howie to Teddie to Soros to Gore, what an incredible menagerie of dishonest, duplicitous, opportunistic, erratic and incompetent blowhards, shallow left-wing fools and crass hypocrites the dimocrats have morphed into the last several decades&#8230;  It&#8217;s the europeanization of American culture, no wonder the jihadis are licking their chops.</p>
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		<title>By: huxley</title>
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		<dc:creator>huxley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 01:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, at least Obama vetted Biden--presumably--for electroshock treatments, unlike poor old George McGovern when he unwittingly tapped Tom Eagleton for VP. After that, it was all downhill for McGovern.

This may be Obama&#039;s Eagleton moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, at least Obama vetted Biden&#8211;presumably&#8211;for electroshock treatments, unlike poor old George McGovern when he unwittingly tapped Tom Eagleton for VP. After that, it was all downhill for McGovern.</p>
<p>This may be Obama&#8217;s Eagleton moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Occam's Beard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Occam's Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 00:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BO and Hillary have too much history now.

Even if BO could be assured that Bill and Hill would behave themselves, and not publicly wrong-foot Obama (and that&#039;s a &lt;i&gt;very&lt;/i&gt; big &quot;if&quot;), it still wouldn&#039;t work. Given the bad blood between them, anything that worked to the detriment of one over the other would be interpreted as treachery, rightly or wrongly. That&#039;s no way to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BO and Hillary have too much history now.</p>
<p>Even if BO could be assured that Bill and Hill would behave themselves, and not publicly wrong-foot Obama (and that&#8217;s a <i>very</i> big &#8220;if&#8221;), it still wouldn&#8217;t work. Given the bad blood between them, anything that worked to the detriment of one over the other would be interpreted as treachery, rightly or wrongly. That&#8217;s no way to work.</p>
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		<title>By: jh</title>
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		<dc:creator>jh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 23:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait till Bidens views on GUns gets out. That is not going to be a great thing in certain areas of the country including swing states</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait till Bidens views on GUns gets out. That is not going to be a great thing in certain areas of the country including swing states</p>
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