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		<title>By: goesh</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/09/02/taking-palin-seriously/#comment-84048</link>
		<dc:creator>goesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Art, I&#039;ll give you credit that a rolling stone gathers no moss and you do make some good points in your commentary that personally I agree with</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Art, I&#8217;ll give you credit that a rolling stone gathers no moss and you do make some good points in your commentary that personally I agree with</p>
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		<title>By: nyomythus</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/09/02/taking-palin-seriously/#comment-84044</link>
		<dc:creator>nyomythus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, here&#039;s one source: http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/alaska-party-official-says-palin-was-not-a-member/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, here&#8217;s one source: <a href="http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/alaska-party-official-says-palin-was-not-a-member/" rel="nofollow">http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/alaska-party-official-says-palin-was-not-a-member/</a></p>
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		<title>By: nyomythus</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/09/02/taking-palin-seriously/#comment-84042</link>
		<dc:creator>nyomythus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a link to the retraction?</description>
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		<title>By: nyomythus</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/09/02/taking-palin-seriously/#comment-84041</link>
		<dc:creator>nyomythus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks gcotharn</description>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/09/02/taking-palin-seriously/#comment-84033</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is amazing people are still ignorant enough to discount the disinformation success of Dan Rather, the January first election of Iraq, Diem&#039;s assassination, WMDs, Valerie Plame, Ted Splash Kennedy, Supreme Court Justices, and numerous other examples of the success of disinformation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is amazing people are still ignorant enough to discount the disinformation success of Dan Rather, the January first election of Iraq, Diem&#8217;s assassination, WMDs, Valerie Plame, Ted Splash Kennedy, Supreme Court Justices, and numerous other examples of the success of disinformation.</p>
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		<title>By: gcotharn</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/09/02/taking-palin-seriously/#comment-84025</link>
		<dc:creator>gcotharn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nyomythus,
The NYT blog has now retracted the claim about Gov. Palin being a secessionist.  The NYT reporter who made the allegation still stands behind it.  There hasn&#039;t been time for a print retraction, if one is forthcoming (before mid Nov.).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nyomythus,<br />
The NYT blog has now retracted the claim about Gov. Palin being a secessionist.  The NYT reporter who made the allegation still stands behind it.  There hasn&#8217;t been time for a print retraction, if one is forthcoming (before mid Nov.).</p>
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		<title>By: Artfldgr</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/09/02/taking-palin-seriously/#comment-84011</link>
		<dc:creator>Artfldgr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here
messageboards.aol.com/aol/en_us/articles.php?boardId=566751&amp;articleId=821427&amp;func=6&amp;channel=News+AOL+Managed&amp;filterRead=false&amp;filterHidden=true&amp;filterUnhidden=false

the disinformation is expanded on to include a list of books and assert that she said &quot;she would like to burn&quot;...

as it spreads each add a bit of an embelishment, or some false fact. and so the disinformation becomes complete when there is so much of the same info over and over that someone on the left looks and thinks that that is the common knowlege and as such must all be correct. 

they are manufacturing a world view by using a hairarchy and a social practice.  look to the one above you, and copy them.  so time writes one thing, kos irresponsibly expands it, and an army of others expands it firther. 

and finally you create the false image of consensus...  the concept that in the absence of truth, the weight of the number of adherents creates truth. 


you can see that those that read from the third stepped on version never even question the validity of it at all.

&quot;The Ministry of Propaganda and Elightenment wanted to ban THE SHINING ??&quot;

another kos job on the same thing but in variation:
Time Magazine: Sarah Palin Book Burner (Updated) 
dailykos.com/story/2008/9/2/112743/6059/507/583261

this one plays up the religion angle... and claims that huffington post has the smoking gun that her religion is the thing...  they quote her stating a prayer, and asking the audience to pray... but the huffington post piece reveals that she was talking to the people in her church. duh.   though this article has nothing as to book burning.  www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205.html


and all blog posts on the kos never question the validity of what htey are discussing (there is no one there like me to challenge the inforamtion. and at kos, if there was, i would be deleted) 

you can find it now inserted here and there in comments on other articles. 

&lt;i&gt;So Palin&#039;s a book-burning fascist, too. What a shock! Sure, PUMA, step right up to vote for this woman who wants to do away with every right feminists have worked for for decades, except the right of a woman to break glass ceilings in order to imprison all other women inside her rigid private morality. Smart thinking, PUMAs! Almost as smart as the Naderite idiots who elected Bush in &#039;00.&lt;/i&gt;


its amazing how it spreads</description>
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<p>the disinformation is expanded on to include a list of books and assert that she said &#8220;she would like to burn&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>as it spreads each add a bit of an embelishment, or some false fact. and so the disinformation becomes complete when there is so much of the same info over and over that someone on the left looks and thinks that that is the common knowlege and as such must all be correct. </p>
<p>they are manufacturing a world view by using a hairarchy and a social practice.  look to the one above you, and copy them.  so time writes one thing, kos irresponsibly expands it, and an army of others expands it firther. </p>
<p>and finally you create the false image of consensus&#8230;  the concept that in the absence of truth, the weight of the number of adherents creates truth. </p>
<p>you can see that those that read from the third stepped on version never even question the validity of it at all.</p>
<p>&#8220;The Ministry of Propaganda and Elightenment wanted to ban THE SHINING ??&#8221;</p>
<p>another kos job on the same thing but in variation:<br />
Time Magazine: Sarah Palin Book Burner (Updated)<br />
dailykos.com/story/2008/9/2/112743/6059/507/583261</p>
<p>this one plays up the religion angle&#8230; and claims that huffington post has the smoking gun that her religion is the thing&#8230;  they quote her stating a prayer, and asking the audience to pray&#8230; but the huffington post piece reveals that she was talking to the people in her church. duh.   though this article has nothing as to book burning.  <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205.html</a></p>
<p>and all blog posts on the kos never question the validity of what htey are discussing (there is no one there like me to challenge the inforamtion. and at kos, if there was, i would be deleted) </p>
<p>you can find it now inserted here and there in comments on other articles. </p>
<p><i>So Palin&#8217;s a book-burning fascist, too. What a shock! Sure, PUMA, step right up to vote for this woman who wants to do away with every right feminists have worked for for decades, except the right of a woman to break glass ceilings in order to imprison all other women inside her rigid private morality. Smart thinking, PUMAs! Almost as smart as the Naderite idiots who elected Bush in &#8217;00.</i></p>
<p>its amazing how it spreads</p>
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		<title>By: nyomythus</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/09/02/taking-palin-seriously/#comment-84008</link>
		<dc:creator>nyomythus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the story about the claim that the Palin&#039;s are Secessionist?</description>
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		<title>By: Artfldgr</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/09/02/taking-palin-seriously/#comment-84006</link>
		<dc:creator>Artfldgr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wexler insinuates through smearing bucanan that palin is a crypto nazi.   this disinformation being so bad, that fox discusses it newsbusters.org/static/2008/09/2008-09-02MSNBCMJ.wmv


then the obama camp picks it up and Mark Bubriski ligitimizes through the miami herald: Palin was a supporter of Pat Buchanan, a right-winger or as many Jews call him: a Nazi sympathizer.

with wexler, and bubriski, you should start seeing more of this spread out. today and yesterday it started...  by the end of the week search bloggs and you will see it promoted.   

its already spreading... you can find links to palin the book burner...  its something that is diseminated by kos, who then the fellow travelers and useful idiots prmote.

www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/2/111944/3298/497/583255

Palin cleaned house of the last administration, and so the TIME mag article interviews the last mayor and they do a book burning hatchet job to paint her as soemthing else. meanwhile, how would someone get rid of a corrupt democratic system? leave the corrupt people who support other policies in place to oppose you? 

the whole idea of TIME was to smear her as an evangelical...  even though they give little support for it and get all their info from the opposition party.  this when they point out that the hottest issue of her time was corruption and cronyism 

the whole idea of kos is then to take that farther and paint her as a nazi, which everyone on the left knows is the same thing as an evangelical. given that cronyism and corruption was big, she got rid of people, and kos makes that out to be an abuse of power. after all, cleaning house and removing all the cronies sets back democratic/socialism/communism based social games by decades. 

the kicker is that the quote that they give from 451 is one in which the book bujrning was by leftist collectivists, not the right. 

&lt;i&gt;We must all be alike. Not everyone born free and equal, as the Constitution says, but everyone made equal... A book is a loaded gun in the house next door. Burn it. Take the shot from the weapon. Breach man&#039;s mind. &lt;/i&gt;

is this short enough?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wexler insinuates through smearing bucanan that palin is a crypto nazi.   this disinformation being so bad, that fox discusses it newsbusters.org/static/2008/09/2008-09-02MSNBCMJ.wmv</p>
<p>then the obama camp picks it up and Mark Bubriski ligitimizes through the miami herald: Palin was a supporter of Pat Buchanan, a right-winger or as many Jews call him: a Nazi sympathizer.</p>
<p>with wexler, and bubriski, you should start seeing more of this spread out. today and yesterday it started&#8230;  by the end of the week search bloggs and you will see it promoted.   </p>
<p>its already spreading&#8230; you can find links to palin the book burner&#8230;  its something that is diseminated by kos, who then the fellow travelers and useful idiots prmote.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/2/111944/3298/497/583255" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/2/111944/3298/497/583255</a></p>
<p>Palin cleaned house of the last administration, and so the TIME mag article interviews the last mayor and they do a book burning hatchet job to paint her as soemthing else. meanwhile, how would someone get rid of a corrupt democratic system? leave the corrupt people who support other policies in place to oppose you? </p>
<p>the whole idea of TIME was to smear her as an evangelical&#8230;  even though they give little support for it and get all their info from the opposition party.  this when they point out that the hottest issue of her time was corruption and cronyism </p>
<p>the whole idea of kos is then to take that farther and paint her as a nazi, which everyone on the left knows is the same thing as an evangelical. given that cronyism and corruption was big, she got rid of people, and kos makes that out to be an abuse of power. after all, cleaning house and removing all the cronies sets back democratic/socialism/communism based social games by decades. </p>
<p>the kicker is that the quote that they give from 451 is one in which the book bujrning was by leftist collectivists, not the right. </p>
<p><i>We must all be alike. Not everyone born free and equal, as the Constitution says, but everyone made equal&#8230; A book is a loaded gun in the house next door. Burn it. Take the shot from the weapon. Breach man&#8217;s mind. </i></p>
<p>is this short enough?</p>
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		<title>By: goesh</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/09/02/taking-palin-seriously/#comment-84004</link>
		<dc:creator>goesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-im making it a personal mission to memorize all of Art&#039;s posts</description>
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