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		<title>By: It&#8217;s the class war</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/09/08/its-the-class-war-stupid/#comment-87306</link>
		<dc:creator>It&#8217;s the class war</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 12:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] great piece on why liberal women have the vapors about Gov. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: TalkinKamel</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/09/08/its-the-class-war-stupid/#comment-84953</link>
		<dc:creator>TalkinKamel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what is it that Russia doing today to Georgia, Sergey?  Oh, yeah, right---it&#039;s protecting Russian nationals in Ossetia!  (Like they haven&#039;t played that game before!)  It&#039;s not about getting control of the oil supplies there, oh, no, no, no!

There&#039;s been a lot of water under the bridge, since the Osman Turks; Russia&#039;s current record (not to mention the entire 20th Century) isn&#039;t real good.  (Hey, when does Pootie wrestle a lion, huh?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what is it that Russia doing today to Georgia, Sergey?  Oh, yeah, right&#8212;it&#8217;s protecting Russian nationals in Ossetia!  (Like they haven&#8217;t played that game before!)  It&#8217;s not about getting control of the oil supplies there, oh, no, no, no!</p>
<p>There&#8217;s been a lot of water under the bridge, since the Osman Turks; Russia&#8217;s current record (not to mention the entire 20th Century) isn&#8217;t real good.  (Hey, when does Pootie wrestle a lion, huh?)</p>
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		<title>By: sergey</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/09/08/its-the-class-war-stupid/#comment-84906</link>
		<dc:creator>sergey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Judeo-Christian framework includes a concept of just war, embodied in Crusades. In all its history Russia protected Christians ethnicities from Islamic aggression, especially at Caucasus. If Georgian and Abkhaz peoples were not included in Russian Empire, their fate in hands of Osman Turks would be the same as Armenians and Greeks, that is, genocide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judeo-Christian framework includes a concept of just war, embodied in Crusades. In all its history Russia protected Christians ethnicities from Islamic aggression, especially at Caucasus. If Georgian and Abkhaz peoples were not included in Russian Empire, their fate in hands of Osman Turks would be the same as Armenians and Greeks, that is, genocide.</p>
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		<title>By: sergey</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/09/08/its-the-class-war-stupid/#comment-84902</link>
		<dc:creator>sergey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 07:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Nobody wants a return of Jacobin terror or, indeed, any other sort of terror, yet it does seem to be returning just the same, doesn’t it?&quot; 

No, it does not. There is a consensus running across all strata of society that terror will never be used, at least against Slavic population. Only small barbaric rebel Muslim populations in Caucasia can be targets of punitive actions, if other measures to make them tame fail. This is like Algeria to France: here we can use paratroopers against villagers, but not in France proper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Nobody wants a return of Jacobin terror or, indeed, any other sort of terror, yet it does seem to be returning just the same, doesn’t it?&#8221; </p>
<p>No, it does not. There is a consensus running across all strata of society that terror will never be used, at least against Slavic population. Only small barbaric rebel Muslim populations in Caucasia can be targets of punitive actions, if other measures to make them tame fail. This is like Algeria to France: here we can use paratroopers against villagers, but not in France proper.</p>
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		<title>By: TalkinKamel</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/09/08/its-the-class-war-stupid/#comment-84898</link>
		<dc:creator>TalkinKamel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 04:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, it might be a good idea for Russia to start thinking about it&#039;s treatment of other nations and cultures, and its crimes against them, and how this fits into the Judeo-Christian framework, or any sort of moral framework at all---that is, assuming they&#039;re not mezmerized by the sight of Rootin-Tootin-Putin&#039;s flabby (but manly!) shirtless physique, and all agog in expectation of his publicly wrestling a lion---oh, goshers, just like Mussolini!

Nobody wants a return of Jacobin terror or, indeed, any other sort of terror, yet it does seem to be returning just the same, doesn&#039;t it?  

Meet the new Russia---same as the old Russia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, it might be a good idea for Russia to start thinking about it&#8217;s treatment of other nations and cultures, and its crimes against them, and how this fits into the Judeo-Christian framework, or any sort of moral framework at all&#8212;that is, assuming they&#8217;re not mezmerized by the sight of Rootin-Tootin-Putin&#8217;s flabby (but manly!) shirtless physique, and all agog in expectation of his publicly wrestling a lion&#8212;oh, goshers, just like Mussolini!</p>
<p>Nobody wants a return of Jacobin terror or, indeed, any other sort of terror, yet it does seem to be returning just the same, doesn&#8217;t it?  </p>
<p>Meet the new Russia&#8212;same as the old Russia.</p>
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		<title>By: TalkinKamel</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/09/08/its-the-class-war-stupid/#comment-84895</link>
		<dc:creator>TalkinKamel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 03:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meet the New Russia---same as the old Russia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meet the New Russia&#8212;same as the old Russia.</p>
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		<title>By: Sergey</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/09/08/its-the-class-war-stupid/#comment-84841</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Culture wars are not the same as ideological wars based on different interpretation of Scripture, as, for example, fierce polemics between Catholics and Protestants, or between christians and atheists. They are about norms and values needed for society cohesion, for universal application of laws or defining public schools curriculum. Society can be very diverse in religeous beliefs, but basic rules of public conduct need to be universally adopted. This is what classic liberalism is all about, and that is why separation of state and church is needed; but there is also a need in overarching culture, and only basic Judeo-Christian moral framework can retain these fundamental liberties. In any other cultural context they would very quickly disappear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Culture wars are not the same as ideological wars based on different interpretation of Scripture, as, for example, fierce polemics between Catholics and Protestants, or between christians and atheists. They are about norms and values needed for society cohesion, for universal application of laws or defining public schools curriculum. Society can be very diverse in religeous beliefs, but basic rules of public conduct need to be universally adopted. This is what classic liberalism is all about, and that is why separation of state and church is needed; but there is also a need in overarching culture, and only basic Judeo-Christian moral framework can retain these fundamental liberties. In any other cultural context they would very quickly disappear.</p>
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		<title>By: Sally</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/09/08/its-the-class-war-stupid/#comment-84830</link>
		<dc:creator>Sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 04:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Sally, the critical distance is an atheist’s point of view, an outsider holding the faith-infused political discourse at arm’s length.&lt;/i&gt;

First, you should understand, Toes, that &quot;an atheist&#039;s point of view&quot; isn&#039;t the same as the point of view of someone phobic or intolerant toward religious belief -- and that your juvenile attempt to mock such belief is hardly the same as holding &quot;faith-infused political discourse at arm’s length&quot;. 

Second, holding such &quot;discourse&quot; at arm&#039;s length doesn&#039;t mean it can&#039;t occur at all -- such as in a church, among one&#039;s faith community, and where the discourse consists of praying (i.e., hoping) that one&#039;s political views and actions are in accord with what&#039;s right.

As for your trip, great. Your use of it to cover your trite anti-American condescension has a little taint of that old &quot;some of my best friends are Jews&quot; excuse, but perhaps you&#039;re sincere. I&#039;d just point out that it takes two sides to fight a culture war, and that the sense of ruination by media manipulation and cynical politicians is felt especially acutely by conservatives and most not on the left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Sally, the critical distance is an atheist’s point of view, an outsider holding the faith-infused political discourse at arm’s length.</i></p>
<p>First, you should understand, Toes, that &#8220;an atheist&#8217;s point of view&#8221; isn&#8217;t the same as the point of view of someone phobic or intolerant toward religious belief &#8212; and that your juvenile attempt to mock such belief is hardly the same as holding &#8220;faith-infused political discourse at arm’s length&#8221;. </p>
<p>Second, holding such &#8220;discourse&#8221; at arm&#8217;s length doesn&#8217;t mean it can&#8217;t occur at all &#8212; such as in a church, among one&#8217;s faith community, and where the discourse consists of praying (i.e., hoping) that one&#8217;s political views and actions are in accord with what&#8217;s right.</p>
<p>As for your trip, great. Your use of it to cover your trite anti-American condescension has a little taint of that old &#8220;some of my best friends are Jews&#8221; excuse, but perhaps you&#8217;re sincere. I&#8217;d just point out that it takes two sides to fight a culture war, and that the sense of ruination by media manipulation and cynical politicians is felt especially acutely by conservatives and most not on the left.</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/09/08/its-the-class-war-stupid/#comment-84827</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 03:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should probably stick to the narrow volume that is Canadian History....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should probably stick to the narrow volume that is Canadian History&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Toes</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/09/08/its-the-class-war-stupid/#comment-84826</link>
		<dc:creator>Toes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 03:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The Declaration of Independence is the very embodiment of basing government policy (unalienable rights) on religious conviction (endowed by their Creator)!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Riiiight, Thomas Jefferson was a &lt;i&gt;big&lt;/i&gt; advocate of mixing church and state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The Declaration of Independence is the very embodiment of basing government policy (unalienable rights) on religious conviction (endowed by their Creator)!</p></blockquote>
<p>Riiiight, Thomas Jefferson was a <i>big</i> advocate of mixing church and state.</p>
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