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Did you ever notice…

The New Neo Posted on by

…how many articles there have been giving Obama helpful advice on what he should do to win the election? Here’s just one, but there have been tons of them ever since he started slipping a wee bit in the polls.

My questions: if he’s so smart, why does he need so much advice?

And if he’s so smart, why isn’t he taking it?

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Did you ever notice… — 44 Comments

  1. Yesssss… When McCain was down in the polls, I recall very few major media figures and consultants discussing what he needed to do to win. A theme of “what the Republicans might attack the Democrats with” did come up, but that has rather a different tone, eh?

  2. Another thing I’ve noticed is how very many of these articles are either by or involved with either explicit Clintonistas, or people who were friendly to the Clintons in some other way.

    Of course, Obama’s screwing up badly enough all by himself that he doesn’t really need a chorus of “helpful” Clinton-attaches to enhance the impression that he’s floundering…

  3. David Brin, author of The Postman and science fiction, has an interesting blog where he gives advice for getting out the vote for Obama.

    The current topic involves absentee votes and converting the “ostriches,” “monsters,” “looneys” and those sufferring from “psychopathology” on the conservative side.

    I’ve been debating there for a while and I am close to being banned. Take a look if you’re interested. Contrary Brin: The Under-Appreciated Issues that Nobody Talks About

  4. Even I have been baffled enough by the Obama campaign that I’ve been inclined to offer advice.

    In some basic way I’m trying to understand what the Obama people are up to and I wish that the political process was sufficiently enough that they could do a better job.

  6. Brin has an interesting justification in that he needs to get rid of what he calls the “neo-conservatives” that have corrupted the GOP. But Neo-conservatives aren’t really spenders, but just people who favor the war in Iraq: by Leftist definition.

    Anything that creates the politically expedient reality of getting rid of Bush’s people, means McCain is inferior to Obama, for Obama, a Democrat, will purge the neo-cons but McCain won’t.

    Then again, Bush didn’t purge Clinton’s appointees, either. What does that say? That perhaps Bush and McCain have a higher priority on integrity while Obama knows he needs to clean the slate because the actions he will want to put into effect, national service involuntary servitude, needs 100% loyal people if it is going to happen?

  7. McCain and Bush reminds me of what makes America weak. Our openness and tolerance of different things and people. TO the point where we tolerate traitors and self-destructive ideas and actions as well.

    Obama represents the strongman solution. He will take out the trash. Or maybe that is Palin’s job as mayor. Obama will make you care. He will fix things. He will force out corruption, cause people won’t have a choice.

    That model is very convenient, but it isn’t ethical.

  8. It is late on a campaign night and Barack has finally gotten into his hotel suite’s bedroom for some quiet time.
    He lies down on the bed and reads over the major newspapers and magazines that have featured glowing
    articles on him and disgusting articles slamming Palin and McCain. Then he slaps in the media tape from
    the day and reviews the networks and the cable news items on the campaign from the day…

    He shakes his head and says,

    “I can’t believe I’m losing with these idiots.”

  10. More thoughts on the link above. It crosses my mind that the plan appears to us to be to sell Obama to the Democrats and to the rest of the world, and then set him up to lose by making him as unattractive as possible to everyone else. I can think of no other reason for the way his representative behaved on the above link – on Fox News. He knows what the Fox audience is about – he’s “reaching out” to the other side, at least I would think so.

    Why? And why would he contribute to his own demise? What would be gained by any third party in the event of an Obama loss, particularly a calamitous one. What could this be used as an excuse to do to those who rejected the chosen one?

    The video above needs to go viral. I smell a rat.

  11. Mezzrow: perhaps the answer is simply that the Obama spokesman was a brick or two short of a full load.

    Occam’s razor: 1) Stupid Obama spokesman.
    2) Obama spokesman undermining Obama campaign, as part of some nefarious conspiracy.

    Which to choose?

  12. I know. Occam/stupidity/malevolence – you’re right on that point. It’s true 99.9% of the time. (sigh)

    Still, nobody’s ear has this kind of tin content. I can’t believe they got to where they are, and are suddenly this dumb. It doesn’t add up.

    I guess I’m looking for Occam’s styptic pencil.

  14. “Obama represents the strongman solution. He will take out the trash. Or maybe that is Palin’s job as mayor. Obama will make you care. He will fix things. He will force out corruption, cause people won’t have a choice.”

    Um./. maybe the words on the teleprompter he reads can do those things.. where is the evidence that the man in the empty suit can or has?

  15. mezzrow: You ask a good question. Can an advisor/spokesperson really be as dumb as Burton seems to be? Or as obnoxious? My answer: yes. And is Burton really that dumb, or is it a pose of some sort? Maybe; hard to say.

    Next question: why does someone as bright as Obama have someone that dumb—or who sounds that dumb—as spokesperson? My answer: either Obama is equally dumb (to hark back to my post of yesterday), or Obama thinks the American people are dumb enough to swallow this swill. Perhaps Burton agrees that the American people are dumb. That might explain that strange smirkiness on his face.

    I’ve noticed that Obama and his spokespeople not only are young, they act even young than they are. In fact, they act positively immature.

  18. “I’ve noticed that Obama and his spokespeople not only are young, they act even young(er) than they are. In fact, they act positively immature.”

    Coupled with the fact that they seem to be convinced that they’re the smartest person in the room, I’ll buy it, Neo. It’s just hard for my mid-fifties mind to wrap around – It’s like being exposed to a Two Minutes Hate as filtered through the upper echelon of the Sea Org.

  19. And the “what-happens-if-he-looses” commentary sound like thinly veiled threats.

  21. It’s like being exposed to a Two Minutes Hate as filtered through the upper echelon of the Sea Org.

    Oh, that’s tasty. I hope Mezzrow stays around for a bit!

    The phrase that crosses my mind everytime I see Obama or one of his spokesholes is: “Not ready for Prime Time.”

  23. I coined a word last week to use in front of the kids and at work: “news-lickers”

    Like Carlie Gibson–rotten news-licker!

  24. …how many articles there have been giving Obama helpful advice on what he should do to win the election?

    I believe there is more to this than what is ovious on the surface.

    If 9/11 could be turn into some nefarious secret government conspiracy… What could an Obama loss be turn into?

    They haven’t had much to celebrate since 2000; that’s 8 years made temporarily hopeful by the congressional wins in 2006. Only to have the hopes of failure in Iraq turned into a nearing, if not assured victory by the surge (the humanity).

    There is a lot of pent-up anger… the MSM, as unqualified mental health amateurs that they are can only do so much.

    Couldn’t you do your part and help a struggling candidacy today 😉

  26. I do believe that Hussein and his toadies are blinded by their own arrogance, and handicapped by the fact that they almost never talk politics with anyone living outside the Hive Mind.

    Many people have instanced The Matrix as an apt metaphor for this blindness: even when they momentarily see the reality behind the illusion, they simply can’t believe it.

    Conservatives have the advantage of having had the Leftist POV shoveled down our throats every bleedin’ day of our lives, so we know their tripe extremely well. Though, I have to say, McCain is too much like Bush in his desire to act like a gentleman. It never gets you brownie points with these freaks, so I vote for going anglo-saxon on their ass.

  28. It never gets you brownie points with these freaks, so I vote for going anglo-saxon on their ass.

    The funny thing is that the Democrats should be wanting McCain precisely because McCain has the same compassionate and tolerant traits of Bush. If they got a FDR or Teddy Roosevelt, the arse of the Left would be grass.

  29. mezzrow Says:

    “Still, nobody’s ear has this kind of tin content. I can’t believe they got to where they are, and are suddenly this dumb. It doesn’t add up.”

    One hit wonder… Hope and Change was a big hit but after that…

  31. When you lack the intellectual capacity to state your case you, like DC1, change the subject and attempt to alienate others in furtherance of that lack. Please stay around and maintain your current lack so that everyone can see the example of what a true leftist is.

  32. I see Obama hanging with Ricky Martin on January 21, drinking heavily and slurring to Ricky, “Missed by that much,” as he holds thumb and index finger apart, and Ricky replies “Yeah, celebrity status is a sometime thing.”

    Then someone plays an eight-track tape, and they both do the macarena.

  33. Next question: why does someone as bright as Obama have someone that dumb–or who sounds that dumb–as spokesperson?

    Or maybe Obama isn’t secure enough to hire the smartest people he can? can’t be outsmarted by the lackeys, you know.

    BTW, that was the second best advice I got from an ex-employer, who had an ego that spanned the multiverse. The best advice he gave me? he told me that I should go apply for the job I currently hold… 😉

  34. Ymarsakar — Thanks for looking into the Brin web site. I’m giving it another go and maybe I get banned and maybe not.

    Overall I must say that the only sites that have banned, frozen, censored, or lynched me, were left/lib venues, even when I was a left/lib myself.

    Neo has managed to dislodge her nastiest trolls, but other than that I didn’t notice commenters, however hostile to the neo-neocon POV, being banned if they manage a certain amount of decorum and substance.

  35. Neo, yes, yes I have! I thought for a while that it was just my own biases at work (no, really), but it’s not that. When one “news” report after another addresses not the status of the Obama campaign but what Obama needs to do in order to recapture the high ground, or his momentum, or whatever, and when (1) there are (my estimate) an order of magnitude fewer stories about the McCain campaign and not ONE of them speaks in the same terms (“What McCain could try in order to recapture formerly-solid-red Virginia”), it’s not my biases.

    NPR is being particularly egregious. I take grim glee at listening to NPR all the time in the car without pledging a dime to them, since the “National” part of their name is clearly not intended for me. It makes me feel that I’m cheating them just a bit – though I’m generally a TANSTAAFL type and pay my way without demur. (It’s “grim” glee because they eventually drive me to actual yelling at the windshield. Occasionally to the bird flipped below dashboard level. They’re infuriating, they are.)

  37. I’m fascinated by the left’s reaction to Obama’s faltering. By turns they evince smug triumphalism of the whistling through the graveyard variety, interleaved with bouts of incredibly vile vitriol. Their reaction really seems to bespeak emotional instability.

  39. I used to note on my blog in 2004 when MSM was giving (supposedly) helpful advice to Kedwards. IIRC, I mostly noted it in the Washington Post.

  40. ELC, yesterday’s Google news had a headline that said “MSM and Blacks at Greatest Risk of AIDS.” That confirmed my worst prejudices regarding the MSM until I learned that “MSM” is the new PC abbreviation for “men who have sex with men,” aka fruits.

  42. David Brin’s two notable things I liked in his Uplift novels were the Meta-Golden Rule and the supreme galactic hierarchy: which included the duties owed by inferiors to superiors, superiors to inferiors, and both superiors and inferiors to the ecological state of the galaxy.

    Bringing up the Iraqis and Afghans to fight for themselves, ensuring that totalitarian systems of thought do not rape the Earth and exploit their own people, are 100% consistent with the principle of order, stability, security, progress, and protecting ecological potential.

    Brin doesn’t see it that, of course. But Neo-neocon does, even if she never read David Brin.

  43. Ymarsakar — Well put!

    Brin was one of my favorite SF authors and I did think I could have a good conversation at his site, but instead I find myself walking on eggshells to avoid being banned, while I can be insulted at will by Brin and the other participants.

    Brin’s site is a great example of neo’s Dancing in a circle post. I’d like to hang out and dance with the Brin folks, but I disagree with their status quo so I am cast out and with a fair amount of nastiness.

  44. If you’ve read the responses to my comments over there, you will probably have realized by now the Standard Operating Procedure by Brin and his commenters.

    If I state that there is a fundamental and philosophical difference between our positions, Brin states that I’m not providing facts. His commenters say that I’m loony and out of touch, clueless, and so such.

    If I state facts, Brin will say that these facts are not real, honest, or what not. His commenters will say that I’m following a “script” and being loony and in need of “de-tox”.

    If you had ever mentioned me and combined your arguments with mine, then they would have had the convenience of labeling both of us as being such and such, rather than having to read us individually and figure our individual responses.

    For example, I did not make any claims about socialism or socialists or that Brin and goon squads were “socialist”. I made claims about the Democrats. Brin’s commenters made claims about voting for Democrats.

    But suddenly Brin and Company want to claim that I’m somehow uttering insults about them being socialists. Gelle and Zorgan brought up socialism, not me. But Gelle’s arguments could not be savaged, cause he served, so that left me as the displacement target for all that they felt was wrong, but couldn’t challenge.

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