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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/10/baldilocks-nails-it/#comment-93972</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 19:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While this is a true statement, those of us with longer memories remember the thing when G.W. Bush was elected in 2000, albeit on the right.

Careful there where you throw the stones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While this is a true statement, those of us with longer memories remember the thing when G.W. Bush was elected in 2000, albeit on the right.</p>
<p>Careful there where you throw the stones.</p>
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		<title>By: Bugs</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/10/baldilocks-nails-it/#comment-92294</link>
		<dc:creator>Bugs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Face it: there is no fair play here, no attempt to see things from the other guy&#039;s perspective. The Democrats believe that their ugly, eight-year temper-tantrum was entirely justified. At the same time, they believe that any negative reaction to Obama&#039;s victory is completely unjustified and irrational. They see no contradiction, now that they&#039;ve won, in asking everyone to be nice and cooperate. This even though we know a McCain victory would have led to four more years of god-awfulness on their part. It&#039;s a really one-sided perspective. 

I&#039;ve often compared our behavior to that of monkeys. I take it back: monkeys are better at getting along than we are. They have ways of dealing with victory and defeat, rituals that preserve social harmony despite unequal outcomes. We have lost all that. Compared to monkeys, we (and especially Democrats) are...crass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Face it: there is no fair play here, no attempt to see things from the other guy&#8217;s perspective. The Democrats believe that their ugly, eight-year temper-tantrum was entirely justified. At the same time, they believe that any negative reaction to Obama&#8217;s victory is completely unjustified and irrational. They see no contradiction, now that they&#8217;ve won, in asking everyone to be nice and cooperate. This even though we know a McCain victory would have led to four more years of god-awfulness on their part. It&#8217;s a really one-sided perspective. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve often compared our behavior to that of monkeys. I take it back: monkeys are better at getting along than we are. They have ways of dealing with victory and defeat, rituals that preserve social harmony despite unequal outcomes. We have lost all that. Compared to monkeys, we (and especially Democrats) are&#8230;crass.</p>
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		<title>By: Rose</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/10/baldilocks-nails-it/#comment-92205</link>
		<dc:creator>Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing about that election - seems to me - is that neither candidate was particularly well-liked. Gore was wooden and uninspiring. Bush was, well, Republican, and hadn&#039;t inspired either. People felt 50/50. And the election came down exactly that way. 50/50. Certainly a recount was warranted. Incredibly,  the election was closer than some local elections, proof that every vote does indeed count.

Then, Gore began the histrionics - trying to disallow military votes, trying to count only the heavily democratic counties... and i agree with you SouthernJames, from that time forward, the political climate has been poisonous. 

With all the cries an concerns about vote tampering and stolen elections, one would think there would be outrage over the ACORN stuff this time, but no. They see it as vengeance.

And so we all pay the price.

And now, they want us to bow in submission, and applaud them for their coup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing about that election &#8211; seems to me &#8211; is that neither candidate was particularly well-liked. Gore was wooden and uninspiring. Bush was, well, Republican, and hadn&#8217;t inspired either. People felt 50/50. And the election came down exactly that way. 50/50. Certainly a recount was warranted. Incredibly,  the election was closer than some local elections, proof that every vote does indeed count.</p>
<p>Then, Gore began the histrionics &#8211; trying to disallow military votes, trying to count only the heavily democratic counties&#8230; and i agree with you SouthernJames, from that time forward, the political climate has been poisonous. </p>
<p>With all the cries an concerns about vote tampering and stolen elections, one would think there would be outrage over the ACORN stuff this time, but no. They see it as vengeance.</p>
<p>And so we all pay the price.</p>
<p>And now, they want us to bow in submission, and applaud them for their coup.</p>
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		<title>By: mockpupy</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/10/baldilocks-nails-it/#comment-92184</link>
		<dc:creator>mockpupy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>talk about bad losers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>talk about bad losers</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernJames</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/10/baldilocks-nails-it/#comment-92183</link>
		<dc:creator>SouthernJames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 17:43:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those of us who were old enough to start voting back in the 70&#039;s, and remember a different political age - where you could agree to disagree with your neighbor about politics without it becoming a bitter anger-filled hatred sort of thing......sometimes I think Al Gore and his conduct in refusing to EVER gracefully concede defeat formed the basis for, or at least encouraged, the age of political bitterness, BDS, and and venom which arose following the 2000 election and which has been with us ever since.  To me, Gore himself was the inspiration for all the &quot;he&#039;s not MY president&quot; bumper stickers and BDS attitudes.  

I&#039;m NOT saying he should not have asked for a recount.  I&#039;m talking about his classless and pentualant attitude and conduct throughout the recount process, and also after it was all over.   I know it is a lot of blame to lay at the feet of just one man, but think about it.   Not once did he ever truly acknowledge that Bush won or say anything statesmanlike, such as &quot;I fully accept the outcome and I now encourage ALL Americans to rally and come together and unite around our new President Elect.....&quot; etc, in the manner losers of presidential elections are SUPPOSED to act (like McCain acted).   And stick with that message.    To the contrary, he ENCOURAGED a continuation of this &quot;selected not elected&quot; bullshit long after it was over.  

He served as the Sore Loser Role Model for every American who voted for him instead of for Bush.  

Gore&#039;s manner, his conduct, his demeanor, and his words (or lack thereof) represent a shameful and disgraceful chapter in American history.  IMO.  And helped  usher in, or at least legitimatize and validae, an era where the politician on the other side of the aisle is not simply &quot;wrong,&quot;.....he is EVIL - and he and those who support him can be bitterly HATED. 

Thank you, Al Gore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those of us who were old enough to start voting back in the 70&#8242;s, and remember a different political age &#8211; where you could agree to disagree with your neighbor about politics without it becoming a bitter anger-filled hatred sort of thing&#8230;&#8230;sometimes I think Al Gore and his conduct in refusing to EVER gracefully concede defeat formed the basis for, or at least encouraged, the age of political bitterness, BDS, and and venom which arose following the 2000 election and which has been with us ever since.  To me, Gore himself was the inspiration for all the &#8220;he&#8217;s not MY president&#8221; bumper stickers and BDS attitudes.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m NOT saying he should not have asked for a recount.  I&#8217;m talking about his classless and pentualant attitude and conduct throughout the recount process, and also after it was all over.   I know it is a lot of blame to lay at the feet of just one man, but think about it.   Not once did he ever truly acknowledge that Bush won or say anything statesmanlike, such as &#8220;I fully accept the outcome and I now encourage ALL Americans to rally and come together and unite around our new President Elect&#8230;..&#8221; etc, in the manner losers of presidential elections are SUPPOSED to act (like McCain acted).   And stick with that message.    To the contrary, he ENCOURAGED a continuation of this &#8220;selected not elected&#8221; bullshit long after it was over.  </p>
<p>He served as the Sore Loser Role Model for every American who voted for him instead of for Bush.  </p>
<p>Gore&#8217;s manner, his conduct, his demeanor, and his words (or lack thereof) represent a shameful and disgraceful chapter in American history.  IMO.  And helped  usher in, or at least legitimatize and validae, an era where the politician on the other side of the aisle is not simply &#8220;wrong,&#8221;&#8230;..he is EVIL &#8211; and he and those who support him can be bitterly HATED. </p>
<p>Thank you, Al Gore.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Gordon</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/10/baldilocks-nails-it/#comment-92179</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:46:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And don&#039;t get me started on the 2000 Florida recount.

I&#039;ll point out that the infamous &quot;Butterfly ballot&quot; seems to have been used without problems in Chicago and was designed by a democrat.  

And, that most of the disputed precincts in Florida were managed by democrats.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And don&#8217;t get me started on the 2000 Florida recount.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll point out that the infamous &#8220;Butterfly ballot&#8221; seems to have been used without problems in Chicago and was designed by a democrat.  </p>
<p>And, that most of the disputed precincts in Florida were managed by democrats.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Gordon</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/10/baldilocks-nails-it/#comment-92178</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;I took my sticker off myself the morning after. I had already been risking vandalism for a month and a half, and besides, I didn’t want to be one of those Kerry/Edwards losers that kept their bumper stickers on for four freakin’ years.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

In Houston, the day after the 2000 election, I found myself behind a car with a bumper sticker saying

 &quot;George Bush Lost!  Get Over It!
  (P.S., I didn&#039;t vote for his daddy either)&quot;

The day after the 2004 election, I saw the same sticker on another car, and wondered if it was the same driver.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I took my sticker off myself the morning after. I had already been risking vandalism for a month and a half, and besides, I didn’t want to be one of those Kerry/Edwards losers that kept their bumper stickers on for four freakin’ years.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>In Houston, the day after the 2000 election, I found myself behind a car with a bumper sticker saying</p>
<p> &#8220;George Bush Lost!  Get Over It!<br />
  (P.S., I didn&#8217;t vote for his daddy either)&#8221;</p>
<p>The day after the 2004 election, I saw the same sticker on another car, and wondered if it was the same driver.</p>
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		<title>By: SouthernJames</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/10/baldilocks-nails-it/#comment-92177</link>
		<dc:creator>SouthernJames</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No surprise at all.   Of course they were going to act this way. 

This goes back to the 2000 election and the classless and venomous vitriol directed at Bush, right out of the gate.   They personified the definition of &quot;sore Losers.&quot;  The just could not and would not accept the outcome. 

They could not shake their almost religious belief that Bush had &quot;stolen&quot; Florida and therefore &quot;stole&quot; the election, and that the &quot;duly elected&quot; candidate had been denied the presidency due to a &#039;right wing&#039; supreme court which &quot;appointed&quot; Bush.  

Even after several of the major news media outlets ended up taking the time and effort to fund a detailed recount of the Florida votes (done in the EXACT SAME METHOD AND MANNER the Gore camp wanted it done) which showed that BUSH DID INDEED WIN FLORIDA, and therefore, in hindsight the correct result WAS reached, and Bush WAS &quot;legitimately&quot; elected....it made no difference.  They ignored it.   The &quot;truth&quot; in their minds was already set in stone.   They were not interested in the least, in the actual facts.  And they have been (with about a 3 week &quot;pause&quot; following 9-11) suffering from BDS rage ever since. 

The sore losers suffering from their righteous indignation these 8 years, have just been waiting for their moment of glory to gloat and get in your face, and be.....as classless and sore winners as they were sore losers.   

My wife said a couple nights before the election:  &quot;If  Obama wins, McCain will give a graceful concession speech, with the losing side will quietly concede.  Peace will rein across the land.  And we&#039;ll all get on with our lives.   On the other hand, if there is just a 2-3 percent switch, and McCain wins, there will be riots, lawsuits demanding recounts, accusations of election fraud and &quot;disenfranchisment&quot; , and America will be proclaimed a Racist KKK nation.&quot;  We would have seen a temper tantrum and a rage-filled hysteria hissy fit of historic proportions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No surprise at all.   Of course they were going to act this way. </p>
<p>This goes back to the 2000 election and the classless and venomous vitriol directed at Bush, right out of the gate.   They personified the definition of &#8220;sore Losers.&#8221;  The just could not and would not accept the outcome. </p>
<p>They could not shake their almost religious belief that Bush had &#8220;stolen&#8221; Florida and therefore &#8220;stole&#8221; the election, and that the &#8220;duly elected&#8221; candidate had been denied the presidency due to a &#8216;right wing&#8217; supreme court which &#8220;appointed&#8221; Bush.  </p>
<p>Even after several of the major news media outlets ended up taking the time and effort to fund a detailed recount of the Florida votes (done in the EXACT SAME METHOD AND MANNER the Gore camp wanted it done) which showed that BUSH DID INDEED WIN FLORIDA, and therefore, in hindsight the correct result WAS reached, and Bush WAS &#8220;legitimately&#8221; elected&#8230;.it made no difference.  They ignored it.   The &#8220;truth&#8221; in their minds was already set in stone.   They were not interested in the least, in the actual facts.  And they have been (with about a 3 week &#8220;pause&#8221; following 9-11) suffering from BDS rage ever since. </p>
<p>The sore losers suffering from their righteous indignation these 8 years, have just been waiting for their moment of glory to gloat and get in your face, and be&#8230;..as classless and sore winners as they were sore losers.   </p>
<p>My wife said a couple nights before the election:  &#8220;If  Obama wins, McCain will give a graceful concession speech, with the losing side will quietly concede.  Peace will rein across the land.  And we&#8217;ll all get on with our lives.   On the other hand, if there is just a 2-3 percent switch, and McCain wins, there will be riots, lawsuits demanding recounts, accusations of election fraud and &#8220;disenfranchisment&#8221; , and America will be proclaimed a Racist KKK nation.&#8221;  We would have seen a temper tantrum and a rage-filled hysteria hissy fit of historic proportions.</p>
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		<title>By: Trimegistus</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/10/baldilocks-nails-it/#comment-92172</link>
		<dc:creator>Trimegistus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liberals hate reality.  By that I mean they are uncomfortable and alienated in the world as it exists.  They constantly strive for &quot;change&quot; in the hope that some policy, some politician, some magic nostrum will cure their unhappiness.  But since that unhappiness is internal, nothing ever satisfies.  

If Obama is ineffective, they will continue to support him in his endless battle against &quot;how things are.&quot;  Their hatred and alienation will support him.

If he&#039;s &lt;i&gt;successful&lt;/i&gt; expect his most fervent supporters to turn on him.  If he actually does bring about all the change that he&#039;s promised -- it won&#039;t be enough.  They&#039;ll call him a sellout and a hypocrite and an Uncle Tom, and they&#039;ll find some new messiah, someone even more outside the mainstream.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liberals hate reality.  By that I mean they are uncomfortable and alienated in the world as it exists.  They constantly strive for &#8220;change&#8221; in the hope that some policy, some politician, some magic nostrum will cure their unhappiness.  But since that unhappiness is internal, nothing ever satisfies.  </p>
<p>If Obama is ineffective, they will continue to support him in his endless battle against &#8220;how things are.&#8221;  Their hatred and alienation will support him.</p>
<p>If he&#8217;s <i>successful</i> expect his most fervent supporters to turn on him.  If he actually does bring about all the change that he&#8217;s promised &#8212; it won&#8217;t be enough.  They&#8217;ll call him a sellout and a hypocrite and an Uncle Tom, and they&#8217;ll find some new messiah, someone even more outside the mainstream.</p>
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		<title>By: armchair pessimist</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/10/baldilocks-nails-it/#comment-92169</link>
		<dc:creator>armchair pessimist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 13:21:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If they could, they&#039;d practice &quot;ecrasez l&#039;infame&quot;.    I take their jumping up and down and pointing to their behinds in the spirit they intend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If they could, they&#8217;d practice &#8220;ecrasez l&#8217;infame&#8221;.    I take their jumping up and down and pointing to their behinds in the spirit they intend.</p>
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