“New York. MSNBC was the victim of a hoax when it reported that an advisor to John McCain had identified himself as the source of an embarrassing story about former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

David Shuste said on air Monday that Martin Eisenstadt, a McCain policy adviser, had come forth and identified himself as the source of a Fox News Channel story saying Palin had mistakenly believed Africa was a country instead of a continent. The hoax referred to the alleged source, not the story itself. AP”

I’m totally confused. Of whom is MSNBC a victim? And that last sentence – the source was a hoax, but the story (about Palin?) wasn’t?

The simple truth is that the general economy and the federal budget are two disparate entities and that the federal budget is a parasite on the body of the economy. The best that can be hoped for is that the government and the economy can reach a symbiotic state where the nourishment provided by our tax dollars is transmuted into a stimulus which can be used to grow the economy. Unfortunately the tendency for all parasites is to continue to grow until they drain the life blood from their host.

Money taken in taxes is money removed from the economy which is all to often used to reward constituent groups with little regard to their true merit or need. A government program is nearly always the least efficient method of providing services or promoting the general welfare. Removing more money from the economy during an economic downturn is suicidal for the economy. Many economists now agree that the “New Deal”, which tried to stimulate the economy through redistributionist policies probably extended the depression by up to seven years.

The constitution describes a very limited role for the federal government with most powers and responsibilities reserved to the states and the people. The inexorable accretion of these responsibilities to the federal government cannot but impinge on the rights of the states and of the people.

We will soon inaugurate a president who has stated his intention to place judges on the supreme court who support the government’s right to redistribute wealth.

It has long been said that no man is safe in his life or his property as long as the legislature is in session. Now it looks like the executive and judicial branches will be playing that game, and they don’t take recesses. God help us.

Napoleon, STalin, Mao, Kruschev, Cecesciu, allende, pol pot, beria, derzinsky, kim jong, marcus wolf, castro, chavez, perons, and the list goes on for more than a few hundred years of people who prove you wrong…

but you dont know history.. your just a smart ass, smart enough to debate by other means, and think that you win when you wear the others down… this isnt a win by merit, its a win by other means… you can do this, and dont see how your leaders will do the same…

morals would dictate that you stick with facts, and yet you dont, what kind of ethics do you think someone like you with very little is supporting and will not realize it since your own are so off.

the end does not make a moral bad a moral good.

which is why people here do not countenance state theft empowered by one class to wage war on another class, that only in propaganda has waged war so that hate would let them give permission to thugs to take it all.

if they cant have it for nothin, then no one can have it for working hard either.

mitsu should take her money, and find some real poor people that can use something to help. pay some persons medical bill. buy 1000 dollars in food and give it to a church to give to the poor, or go there that night and hand it out to who you want yourself.

no… she would rather see a new beuracracy, like the 300 million dollar one in ny for giving out some different tests to students.

you act like you know so much. you act like the hitler youth did. but you woudnt remember them, or know much other than one diminsional descriptions in books.

but since you didnt know the history of the switch in liberalism, or that marx invented progressive taxes and talked about using them to destroy free countries, because marxs final thing would be a DICTATORSHIP… that progressivism, neo liberalism, nazism, communism, feminism, and a whole hose of other terms are all SOCIALISM.

all enable the state to have power over the people who are free before the state. and i mean before states existed, not in front of.

somehow you think that a communal organization that serves the communities BASIC GROUP needs and nothing else, has to be ruler over the community.

and you dont get that they become ruler over everything indirectly. you dont see a gun at your head, you dont think they can make you do what they want?

what happens after the left gets what they want? will they allow the right to march in the streets, break things, or talk in a way to reverse or change the situation?

if you say no. then you know its totalitarian but cant tell, or refuse to let it kick the ol light on.

if you say yes, then your contradicting your other things over a long set of postings.

i will give you a hint…

russia, large protests allowed against the state?
china, large protests allowed against the state?
venezuela, large protests allowed against the state?
cuba, large protests allowed against the state?

america, large protests allowed against the state now? YES… because thats the principals the left is abusing to get power.

how do people without merit get power? how does a DICTATORSHIP OF THE PROLETARIAT, happen?

mitsu brougth up sweden.. but i wonder if she knows that in sweden you can only name your child what the state allows you to name it.

yet thats not a dictatorship of sorts to her.

you talk about power to take things from the most powerful (who spend most of their time productively and not funding insurgencies and things, which they could do. but the majority just work, and then vacation, and some have hobbies), and dont realize that once thats accomplished, nothing can stop the dictatorship.

it dont matter what you believe… you dont care what a horse thinks when you steer it left… you only care that it goes left…

well, take a pick of which left brand that the market is saturated with to take you to the left. feminism? communism? anarchism? socialism? progressivism? liberalism?

the spectrum is between the state being a servant of the people, or the people being a servant of the state.

if the state can compell you to name your children what it says you can, even in a long list, then your a servant of the state… and those who run the state can do what they want depending on the outcomes they are willing to bother with!!!!

so the swedes are not willing to bother with rioting, nor the USA, or uk… so they only go so far that people protest… then try again and so far… a soft aproach to getting to the gun on the table…

the russians and chinese were willing to handle big outcomes by using big force.

so in the US they order you to a slave camp… there are riots… they back down..

in russia they ordered you to a slave camp, there are riots, they shoot them all on the spot.

next round.

so in the US they increase penalties to get real tough on crime, and they also make it legal to make you work for the stay there for pittance. welcome to the soft work camp…

and in russia, they send you to a camp, everyone pretends that nothing happened. no one talks about it, no one says anything, they just go on with their lives.

and to you its a matter of whether you have a studded collar or a bare one… and for us, its that we dont want to wear any collar..

sweden is dying faster than the US…

Is Swedish Democracy Collapsing?
fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/05/is-swedish-democracy-collapsing.html

the problem is that you youngins think your very incomplete and full of holes education is complete, whole, and self referntially sound..

its not… arguing with you guys reminds me of arguing with new soviet immigrants in the past. they have a completely different false history that is different depending on what era they were raised in…

and like you, and billy… their and your education fails, because it was never intended to educate you the way the education i got was. (i got the old kind)… your education was intended to make you pliable, and to conclude based on censored data, the conclusion they want you to have.

its easy to pick your post apart since its all opinion and not fact…

as of 2006

swedens lowest rate was 51 percent, it went UP to 57… so your wrong on the trending..

A major tax reform in 1991 significantly lowered the top marginal tax rate to encourage growth. The top rate had peaked at 87 percent in 1979 and then gradually dropped to 65 percent in 1990 before being cut to 51 percent in 1991. Subsequent tax increases have since pushed the rate to about 57 percent.6 High payroll tax rates exacerbate the damage.

mitsu… why didint you mention the payroll taxes? or didint you know?

The tax burden in the Swedish economy tripled between 1950 and 1980. In 1970, when taxes were not much higher than they are in America today, Sweden’s GDP per capita ranked fifth in the world4. Since taxes passed 50 percent of GDP the country’s overall prosperity has dwindled, and the downturn has been most dramatic in measures of the standard of living. In 1970 Sweden ranked third in OECD for individual consumption, 39 percent above OECD average. By 1995, Sweden barely beat the OECD average, ranking 14th with an individual consumption 1.4 percent above OECD average, and has been stagnant since that time.5

Sweden is a slow-growth economy. After rising rapidly after World War II, economic performance stagnated once the burden of government reached high levels in the 1970s and 1980s. Since that time, inflation-adjusted growth has averaged less than 3 percent per year.

Unemployment is now a significant problem in Sweden. The official jobless rate is about 8 percent, but independent estimates show the rate is closer to 20 percent.

and you say its a model we want? that it has “the highest per-capita income in the world”… thats all false..

High taxes and excessive regulations have encouraged many large corporations to leave the country. Many individuals also are escaping the Swedish tax system, ranging from high-net worth entrepreneurs to new college graduates.

NOKIA is a finnish company… not a swedish one.

Nokia Corporation (pronunciation /’nɔkiɑ/) OMX: NOK1V, NYSE: NOK, FWB: NOA3) is a Finnish multinational communications corporation, headquartered in Keilaniemi, Espoo, a city neighbouring Finland’s capital Helsinki.

The most noteworthy feature of the personal income tax is that it combines the worst of all worlds. It imposes a very high top tax rate on productive behavior, and the top rate takes effect at a relatively modest level of income. Swedish taxpayers with about $60,000 of income will pay nearly 60 percent of each additional dollar to the national, regional, and local governments. This is a steep penalty on work, saving, investment, risk-taking, and entrepreneurship. Even the Organisation for Economic Cooperation and Development, in its Country Report on Sweden, noted, “High tax wedges have a negative impact on hours of work” and that “cutting marginal income tax rates could help improve work incentives.”12

so even they want to cut tax rates but the RULERS wont let them…

liberals today are communist socialists… liberals from the past are conservatives today… liberalism was gutted in the inside and the shell worn as a costume for social democrats. what the bolsheviks called menshiviks.

again… failure of history, and garbage facts are what your basing your stuff on..

we keep showing that each of your facts is wrong… but you want us to change our mind to match yours… why? why do we want to be wrong? we knwo better. we are older and have EXPERIENCE.

tend to make their money not by buying and selling the fruits of their own labor, but by owning an interest in the labor of others. In other words, they’re skimming off the top of the labor of other people, collecting a cut. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with this, in principle — but there’s also nothing particularly wrong with taxing this sort of income at a higher rate.

if your premise was right, then maybe your right… but your grounding premise is wrong.

the wealthy risk what they have to make more.. to work the same way as another will not increase their wealth but decrease it.

they are like distributive monetary processers. who with their own funds review, anc choose what they will RISK their future in.

the concepts of brewsters millions is false… its a movie… its hard to invest when your very wealthy and you are alone with tons of criminals all lined up to take your money… false businesses, bad partners… false things to invest in… ideas that dont work… etc.

for gods sake… turn on ramseys kitchen and see people investing 1 million dollars US to have a restaurant and losing it all after spending their whole lives making it.

and you think that because they have a million and more they should have that taken?

what happens to the 5 minimum wage cooks, the waitresses and such?

oh yeah… instead of working, you want the state to take the money of the richer person, and give it to the poor person.. and the poor person will go to the restaurant and have a meal… but where is the restaurant? in the poor persons pocket…

you dont get that your education is faulty… like my son its inconcievable to you that your teachers taught you to be a certain way, rather than give you all the info and let you be what you are.

they dont need what you are… they need what they need, and they are trying to mold people to do that. but the modling they do in 1960 cant predict the needs of 1989… so this fails too.

your a good little work unit.. no family, no competition for those above you… they are not going to let you take what they ahve away from them, any more than your going to let a crook enter your aparment by leaving it unlocked.

you are contradictory… on one hand you say they are evil.. and on another hand you say they are good in wanting the state to have more power to tax.

dissonance alert… put your own ideas togetehr, and you get evil people making policy while telling you its all for you…

See, that’s why the federal budget goes down every year, state governments are shrinking and regulations and requirements are being erased off the books!

Think. Think really hard. Can you imagine any government, any at all, that may have done that?

When you do, you can admit it. I won’t rub it in. Honest.

Then how come the democrats won’t trust me with my own money, guns or talk radio?

You’re so close! Just a little bit farther…