Comments on: Good question: how to get the conservative message across http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/14/good-question-how-to-get-the-conservative-message-across/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:39:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Kevin Garnett http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/14/good-question-how-to-get-the-conservative-message-across/#comment-198082 Kevin Garnett Fri, 05 Nov 2010 21:58:09 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/14/good-question-how-to-get-the-conservative-message-across/#comment-198082 Rose: I will be very, very surprised if Ayers is a guest at the White House. I think Obama is much too canny for that. Ayers has served his purpose, anyway. Rose: I will be very, very surprised if Ayers is a guest at the White House. I think Obama is much too canny for that. Ayers has served his purpose, anyway.

]]> By: neo-neocon http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/14/good-question-how-to-get-the-conservative-message-across/#comment-93158 neo-neocon Tue, 18 Nov 2008 04:40:56 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/14/good-question-how-to-get-the-conservative-message-across/#comment-93158 Rose: I will be very, very surprised if Ayers is a guest at the White House. I think Obama is much too canny for that. Ayers has served his purpose, anyway. Rose: I will be very, very surprised if Ayers is a guest at the White House. I think Obama is much too canny for that. Ayers has served his purpose, anyway.

]]> By: Rose http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/14/good-question-how-to-get-the-conservative-message-across/#comment-93157 Rose Tue, 18 Nov 2008 04:37:38 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/14/good-question-how-to-get-the-conservative-message-across/#comment-93157 boqueronman, we all need to read Alinsky's book, understand what we are up against, and read their other bible - Lakoff's Don't think of an elephant (a really crappy piece of work in my opinion, but one they swear by.) You have to stop believing that the voters will see the truth, see through the propaganda, and make the right decision for the country - they won't - they want someone who will entertain them like WWF - so, it will take a smackdown kind of show. Pulling punches certainly isn't working. Palin was good - great even, able to do it all with a smile on her face. We've never seen anything like that. If watching Ayres crowing now doesn't convince people they were lied to - if realizing they are now going to allow that murderous bastard into the White House as an FOB doesn't shock people, nothing will. boqueronman, we all need to read Alinsky’s book, understand what we are up against, and read their other bible – Lakoff’s Don’t think of an elephant (a really crappy piece of work in my opinion, but one they swear by.)

You have to stop believing that the voters will see the truth, see through the propaganda, and make the right decision for the country – they won’t – they want someone who will entertain them like WWF – so, it will take a smackdown kind of show.

Pulling punches certainly isn’t working.

Palin was good – great even, able to do it all with a smile on her face. We’ve never seen anything like that.

If watching Ayres crowing now doesn’t convince people they were lied to – if realizing they are now going to allow that murderous bastard into the White House as an FOB doesn’t shock people, nothing will.

]]> By: Lil' green olives http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/14/good-question-how-to-get-the-conservative-message-across/#comment-93064 Lil' green olives Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:34:16 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/14/good-question-how-to-get-the-conservative-message-across/#comment-93064 Oh, and like you I hope Obama's administration will somehow be good for the country. I doubt it, and the chances are we will be given a gift, an opening where the American people will be disgusted with them, much like the gift GW gave to the dems. And we need to be ready. Oh, and like you I hope Obama’s administration will somehow be good for the country. I doubt it, and the chances are we will be given a gift, an opening where the American people will be disgusted with them, much like the gift GW gave to the dems.

And we need to be ready.

]]> By: Lil' green olives http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/14/good-question-how-to-get-the-conservative-message-across/#comment-93062 Lil' green olives Mon, 17 Nov 2008 14:26:45 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/14/good-question-how-to-get-the-conservative-message-across/#comment-93062 Is there any way to keep this thread alive Neo ?. Perhaps in another post by yourself? I think this subject needs to be gone over and over. The Dems were a shattered, incohesive mess after 2004 but came back to put all their differing factions together. They really didn't even like each other. (think blacks, gays, and prop 8 in Ca.) and certainly didn't come together under one political philosophy, just the bumper sticker mentality "hope and change". Can we ever expect to get pro-life social conservatives and historically pro family conservative hispanic voters to rally to the banner of smaller government and free markets that defines us? We've got alot of work and we need to keep it out front and focused upon. Is there any way to keep this thread alive Neo ?. Perhaps in another post by yourself? I think this subject needs to be gone over and over.

The Dems were a shattered, incohesive mess after 2004 but came back to put all their differing factions together. They really didn’t even like each other. (think blacks, gays, and prop 8 in Ca.) and certainly didn’t come together under one political philosophy, just the bumper sticker mentality “hope and change”.

Can we ever expect to get pro-life social conservatives and historically pro family conservative hispanic voters to rally to the banner of smaller government and free markets that defines us?

We’ve got alot of work and we need to keep it out front and focused upon.

]]> By: Rose http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/14/good-question-how-to-get-the-conservative-message-across/#comment-93019 Rose Mon, 17 Nov 2008 03:29:37 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/14/good-question-how-to-get-the-conservative-message-across/#comment-93019 GOOD, I mean! dang typos! GOOD, I mean! dang typos!

]]> By: Rose http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/14/good-question-how-to-get-the-conservative-message-across/#comment-93018 Rose Mon, 17 Nov 2008 03:29:10 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/14/good-question-how-to-get-the-conservative-message-across/#comment-93018 Micha Elyi GODD POINTS! Micha Elyi

GODD POINTS!

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/14/good-question-how-to-get-the-conservative-message-across/#comment-92936 Ymarsakar Sun, 16 Nov 2008 08:44:54 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/14/good-question-how-to-get-the-conservative-message-across/#comment-92936 <b>I don’t see “teaching” conservatism or attempts at elbowing it into institutions as an efficient approach to our problems.</b> Try vouchers. They really can't stand that. I don’t see “teaching” conservatism or attempts at elbowing it into institutions as an efficient approach to our problems.

Try vouchers. They really can’t stand that.

]]> By: Micha Elyi http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/14/good-question-how-to-get-the-conservative-message-across/#comment-92924 Micha Elyi Sun, 16 Nov 2008 07:55:03 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/14/good-question-how-to-get-the-conservative-message-across/#comment-92924 Folks keep referring to "the Republicans." Well, exactly who or what are those folks talking about? Seriously, I want to know. Somehow "the Republicans" never include those folks themselves, as if casting most of ones votes for partisan office for Republican candidates, chatting up and arguing for votes for Republican candidates with others, registering ones party preference as Republican, voting in Republican party primary elections doesn't make oneself part of "the Republicans." Maybe, in their incoherence, those folks are trying to refer to some centralized Republican party apparatus. Heh, that makes such folks doubly incoherent because there isn't any such organization. There's the Republican National Committee which, authority-wise, is little more than the sanctioning body for and organizers of the quadriennial national presidential nominating convention, to which largely autonomous <i>state</i> and territorial Republican party organizations send delegates. And what are those state Republican party bodies? (Does anyone here know the name of their state party's GOP chairman without looking it up?) The state Republican committee may or may not be responsive to the wishes of Republican activists organized at the county central committee level and politicians along with their campaign organizations are often not at all responsive to the locally chosen central committees that operate in those politician's districts. So, again, who exactly are "the Republicans"? Folks keep referring to “the Republicans.” Well, exactly who or what are those folks talking about? Seriously, I want to know. Somehow “the Republicans” never include those folks themselves, as if casting most of ones votes for partisan office for Republican candidates, chatting up and arguing for votes for Republican candidates with others, registering ones party preference as Republican, voting in Republican party primary elections doesn’t make oneself part of “the Republicans.”

Maybe, in their incoherence, those folks are trying to refer to some centralized Republican party apparatus. Heh, that makes such folks doubly incoherent because there isn’t any such organization. There’s the Republican National Committee which, authority-wise, is little more than the sanctioning body for and organizers of the quadriennial national presidential nominating convention, to which largely autonomous state and territorial Republican party organizations send delegates. And what are those state Republican party bodies? (Does anyone here know the name of their state party’s GOP chairman without looking it up?) The state Republican committee may or may not be responsive to the wishes of Republican activists organized at the county central committee level and politicians along with their campaign organizations are often not at all responsive to the locally chosen central committees that operate in those politician’s districts.

So, again, who exactly are “the Republicans”?

]]> By: Rose http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/14/good-question-how-to-get-the-conservative-message-across/#comment-92918 Rose Sun, 16 Nov 2008 06:50:46 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2008/11/14/good-question-how-to-get-the-conservative-message-across/#comment-92918 I'd add that Romney would have been savaged as much or more than Palin, because of his religion. It’s ok for Bill Clinton to go to church and carry a bible, and for Barack to go to church because wink wink, it’s only to get elected. Look what the Prop 8 activists are doing to Mormons, they’ve declared they are going to destroy Utah’s “brand.” Regarding the Republicans - they should have backed McCain en masse rather than allow the activist/community organizer mentality to gain power in- it comes down to Country First! and Republicans failed that test. The PUMAS passed it. Believe me, Republicans would rather Hillary had won than Barack - there’d still be disagreements, but there’s be reason for respect. Not so with Obama. Given what was against him, and her, McCain and Palin did an amazing job! Give them credit. If they weren’t such absolutely good people, Barack would have gotten 70% of the vote. He eked by, but only because of the media and the machine. I’d add that Romney would have been savaged as much or more than Palin, because of his religion. It’s ok for Bill Clinton to go to church and carry a bible, and for Barack to go to church because wink wink, it’s only to get elected.

Look what the Prop 8 activists are doing to Mormons, they’ve declared they are going to destroy Utah’s “brand.”

Regarding the Republicans – they should have backed McCain en masse rather than allow the activist/community organizer mentality to gain power in- it comes down to Country First! and Republicans failed that test. The PUMAS passed it.

Believe me, Republicans would rather Hillary had won than Barack – there’d still be disagreements, but there’s be reason for respect. Not so with Obama.

Given what was against him, and her, McCain and Palin did an amazing job! Give them credit. If they weren’t such absolutely good people, Barack would have gotten 70% of the vote. He eked by, but only because of the media and the machine.

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