Comments on: Is this what Cloward-Piven looks like? http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/10/is-this-what-cloward-piven-looks-like/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:40:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Ymarsakar http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/10/is-this-what-cloward-piven-looks-like/#comment-105533 Ymarsakar Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:05:52 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/10/is-this-what-cloward-piven-looks-like/#comment-105533 <b>Logern: you insult my intelligence if you think I’m saying that upbeat tones can forestall a recession or depression that’s already in the works for economic reasons.</b> Can't get insulted by a log. Maybe by a (Loyal) Achates, perhaps. Logern: you insult my intelligence if you think I’m saying that upbeat tones can forestall a recession or depression that’s already in the works for economic reasons.

Can’t get insulted by a log. Maybe by a (Loyal) Achates, perhaps.

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/10/is-this-what-cloward-piven-looks-like/#comment-105532 Ymarsakar Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:04:12 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/10/is-this-what-cloward-piven-looks-like/#comment-105532 You know what I think? I think we're all fauked. In the military sense that one might be should your own artillery train have mistakenly targeted your own location in the field and started maximum fire rates. And when you call them up to tell them to stop firing, they say you are not in their chain of command and you are not authorized to give them such an order. You would have to go through the loophole of talking to 5 other radio operators before authorization could get sent, maybe. All the while, you are getting pounded, Shocked and Awed, blitzed, psychologically tortured, shellshocked, etc. That is the tactical situation we are in. But the strategic and logistical realm? That has yet to become crystal clear. You know what I think? I think we’re all fauked.

In the military sense that one might be should your own artillery train have mistakenly targeted your own location in the field and started maximum fire rates. And when you call them up to tell them to stop firing, they say you are not in their chain of command and you are not authorized to give them such an order. You would have to go through the loophole of talking to 5 other radio operators before authorization could get sent, maybe.

All the while, you are getting pounded, Shocked and Awed, blitzed, psychologically tortured, shellshocked, etc.

That is the tactical situation we are in. But the strategic and logistical realm? That has yet to become crystal clear.

]]> By: Robohobo http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/10/is-this-what-cloward-piven-looks-like/#comment-101350 Robohobo Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:19:49 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/10/is-this-what-cloward-piven-looks-like/#comment-101350 <blockquote cite="Is this what Cloward-Piven looks like?"> Why, yes, it is. Rahmbo E said so. This is straight out of the playbook of the CPUSA. If "The Won" and Rahmbo don't know that, then they are feckless. If they do, well, you know where that takes us = "...I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC..." It is truly a sad state of affairs that we find ourselves in but I keep hearing the statement that 'you get the kind of government you deserve' floating about in my subconscious.</blockquote>

Why, yes, it is. Rahmbo E said so. This is straight out of the playbook of the CPUSA. If “The Won” and Rahmbo don’t know that, then they are feckless. If they do, well, you know where that takes us = “…I WILL SUPPORT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AGAINST ALL ENEMIES, FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC…”

It is truly a sad state of affairs that we find ourselves in but I keep hearing the statement that ‘you get the kind of government you deserve’ floating about in my subconscious.

]]> By: neo-neocon http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/10/is-this-what-cloward-piven-looks-like/#comment-101130 neo-neocon Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:37:49 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/10/is-this-what-cloward-piven-looks-like/#comment-101130 Logern: you insult my intelligence if you think I'm saying that upbeat tones can forestall a recession or depression that's already in the works for economic reasons. But it can keep things from getting worse than they need otherwise be. Scare tactics, on the other hand, have the effect of <i>increasing</i> the panic. The latter is what Obama is doing---escalating the fear through gloomy prognostications from the very start of the whole thing. Logern: you insult my intelligence if you think I’m saying that upbeat tones can forestall a recession or depression that’s already in the works for economic reasons. But it can keep things from getting worse than they need otherwise be. Scare tactics, on the other hand, have the effect of increasing the panic. The latter is what Obama is doing—escalating the fear through gloomy prognostications from the very start of the whole thing.

]]> By: SteveH http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/10/is-this-what-cloward-piven-looks-like/#comment-101111 SteveH Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:12:47 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/10/is-this-what-cloward-piven-looks-like/#comment-101111 The democrats cannot continue to hold simultaneously opposing positions for much longer. They cannot be for the little guy economically, while trying to destroy the big guy economically. They are all the same tree with the trunk supporting all other branches. When democrats finally figure out their entire argument for society rest on the stirring up of childlike envy, it'll be too late to stop the tide that will resent them for it. And it won't be pretty. The democrats cannot continue to hold simultaneously opposing positions for much longer.

They cannot be for the little guy economically, while trying to destroy the big guy economically. They are all the same tree with the trunk supporting all other branches.

When democrats finally figure out their entire argument for society rest on the stirring up of childlike envy, it’ll be too late to stop the tide that will resent them for it. And it won’t be pretty.

]]> By: Logern http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/10/is-this-what-cloward-piven-looks-like/#comment-101108 Logern Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:15:04 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/10/is-this-what-cloward-piven-looks-like/#comment-101108 [b]Obama may not be especially consistent. But this is one topic on which he’s been exactly that, sounding a single depressing note from the very beginning of the financial crisis till the present time.[/b] If you read Edward Angly's book "Oh Yeah" from 1931, you'll find numerous quotes from Hoover to captains of industry and finance with optimism and rosy forecasts from 1930 about how the worst of the Great Depression was just around the corner or already there. The upbeat tone didn't change or convey one iota of new reality, as you should know already as to how long the depression lasted. [b]Obama may not be especially consistent. But this is one topic on which he’s been exactly that, sounding a single depressing note from the very beginning of the financial crisis till the present time.[/b]

If you read Edward Angly’s book “Oh Yeah” from 1931, you’ll find numerous quotes from Hoover to captains of industry and finance with optimism and rosy forecasts from 1930 about how the worst of the Great Depression was just around the corner or already there.

The upbeat tone didn’t change or convey one iota of new reality, as you should know already as to how long the depression lasted.

]]> By: Artfldgr http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/10/is-this-what-cloward-piven-looks-like/#comment-101078 Artfldgr Wed, 11 Feb 2009 21:56:13 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/10/is-this-what-cloward-piven-looks-like/#comment-101078 dont have time to read the posts.. but wanted to point out that the general of the air force of ajerbaijan, you know the country needed for land bridge to move weapons, was assasinated. anyone want to tally up the assasinations NOT REPORTED in the news in the past 2 or 3 months? go to go... there is a lot more... and i havent read a lot of it. sigh dont have time to read the posts.. but wanted to point out that the general of the air force of ajerbaijan, you know the country needed for land bridge to move weapons, was assasinated.

anyone want to tally up the assasinations NOT REPORTED in the news in the past 2 or 3 months?

go to go… there is a lot more… and i havent read a lot of it. sigh

]]> By: Beverly http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/10/is-this-what-cloward-piven-looks-like/#comment-101066 Beverly Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:30:21 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/10/is-this-what-cloward-piven-looks-like/#comment-101066 <blockquote>I think he’s the front man of a hellish marriage of one-world ideologues and trans-national plutocrats. To the one, the nation-states belong in the dark ages; to the other, the nations’ distinct laws and practices and currencies are an impediment to the frictionless movement of money. The continued existence of the USA as we know it, is a particularly irksome nail that needs to be hammered down for once and for all. Provided they can provide enough bread and circuses, there’s no reason to hope Americans will wake up and take their country back.</blockquote> Word, Armchair Pessimist.

I think he’s the front man of a hellish marriage of one-world ideologues and trans-national plutocrats. To the one, the nation-states belong in the dark ages; to the other, the nations’ distinct laws and practices and currencies are an impediment to the frictionless movement of money. The continued existence of the USA as we know it, is a particularly irksome nail that needs to be hammered down for once and for all.

Provided they can provide enough bread and circuses, there’s no reason to hope Americans will wake up and take their country back.

Word, Armchair Pessimist.

]]> By: Assistant Village Idiot http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/10/is-this-what-cloward-piven-looks-like/#comment-101057 Assistant Village Idiot Wed, 11 Feb 2009 19:54:32 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/10/is-this-what-cloward-piven-looks-like/#comment-101057 Don't think Antarctica. We're fine in the medium term. But you should try and interest your children in the idea of space colonization. Don’t think Antarctica. We’re fine in the medium term. But you should try and interest your children in the idea of space colonization.

]]> By: Baklava http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/10/is-this-what-cloward-piven-looks-like/#comment-101046 Baklava Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:32:13 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/10/is-this-what-cloward-piven-looks-like/#comment-101046 Obamqa gets an "F" in economic history http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/obama-presser-does-obama-pay-attention/ Obamqa gets an “F” in economic history

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/02/10/obama-presser-does-obama-pay-attention/

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