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	<title>Comments on: Jonathan Alter on Obama&#8212;American&#8217;s shrink?  FDR?</title>
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		<title>By: Lonesome Monster</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/23/jonathan-alter-on-obama-americans-shrink-fdr/#comment-102225</link>
		<dc:creator>Lonesome Monster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Something that Liberals, of a certain stripe, often fail to comprehend is that few other people wish to view government officials as therapists, or benevolent fathers/mothers, or agents of some ‘world spirit’.&lt;/i&gt;

This is why I no longer am willing to engage many of my friends in conversations about politics. It&#039;s very unnerving listening to an otherwise intelligent and well educated person appeal to mysticism when framing their arguments. Of course, they don&#039;t regard their justifications as being based on mystical beliefs - if anything, they believe that they&#039;re &#039;scientific&#039;. But though they may use scientific terminology - e.g. from neuro, evolutionary, or clinical psychology - their descriptions of these dynamics and effects are typically bastardized. More often they&#039;re relying on some sort of communal consciousness a/o agency that will react to and affect their intentions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Something that Liberals, of a certain stripe, often fail to comprehend is that few other people wish to view government officials as therapists, or benevolent fathers/mothers, or agents of some ‘world spirit’.</i></p>
<p>This is why I no longer am willing to engage many of my friends in conversations about politics. It&#8217;s very unnerving listening to an otherwise intelligent and well educated person appeal to mysticism when framing their arguments. Of course, they don&#8217;t regard their justifications as being based on mystical beliefs &#8211; if anything, they believe that they&#8217;re &#8216;scientific&#8217;. But though they may use scientific terminology &#8211; e.g. from neuro, evolutionary, or clinical psychology &#8211; their descriptions of these dynamics and effects are typically bastardized. More often they&#8217;re relying on some sort of communal consciousness a/o agency that will react to and affect their intentions.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/23/jonathan-alter-on-obama-americans-shrink-fdr/#comment-102197</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 18:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No argument here!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No argument here!</p>
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		<title>By: Oh, bother</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/23/jonathan-alter-on-obama-americans-shrink-fdr/#comment-102192</link>
		<dc:creator>Oh, bother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:29:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I submit the plan outlined by Jamie@11:58 is quite bad enough for us sensible Americans to oppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I submit the plan outlined by Jamie@11:58 is quite bad enough for us sensible Americans to oppose.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/23/jonathan-alter-on-obama-americans-shrink-fdr/#comment-102190</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m put in mind of the various anti-vaccine people I&#039;ve known, friends and not. I sympathized with their fears, but I could never quite get over my resentment that they were relying on me and most other parents to do to &lt;i&gt;our&lt;/i&gt; children what they believed was a terrible harm, in order to protect &lt;i&gt;their&lt;/i&gt; children. (And before I let myself in for a lot of flame, let me emphasize that I find it completely rational for a parent of a child with autism to delay vaccination or to rule it out entirely for another child and to rely on herd immunity, even though there&#039;s no compelling evidence of a link. Who knows what micro-effects studies might miss? If I were in that situation I&#039;d consider doing the same. I can&#039;t resent the burned-once parent.)

I don&#039;t think Obama and the Democratic leadership are actually conspiring to remake the U.S. in the likeness of Cuba. I think, instead, they&#039;re angling (as armchair pessimist says) to keep themselves in power, and the massive societal change that goes along with it is just gravy. Meanwhile, though, they&#039;re counting on ordinary, ornery Americans to do what they do - not to &quot;shrug&quot; too much - and pull us out of this. So their non-plan - to pull the U.S. out of this downturn - depends on other people&#039;s drive, sacrifice, and generosity to do the actual work, while they can pursue their plan - to hold and solidify their position - and also take credit for the non-plan&#039;s &quot;success&quot; without having to embrace the distasteful methods that actually bring it about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m put in mind of the various anti-vaccine people I&#8217;ve known, friends and not. I sympathized with their fears, but I could never quite get over my resentment that they were relying on me and most other parents to do to <i>our</i> children what they believed was a terrible harm, in order to protect <i>their</i> children. (And before I let myself in for a lot of flame, let me emphasize that I find it completely rational for a parent of a child with autism to delay vaccination or to rule it out entirely for another child and to rely on herd immunity, even though there&#8217;s no compelling evidence of a link. Who knows what micro-effects studies might miss? If I were in that situation I&#8217;d consider doing the same. I can&#8217;t resent the burned-once parent.)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Obama and the Democratic leadership are actually conspiring to remake the U.S. in the likeness of Cuba. I think, instead, they&#8217;re angling (as armchair pessimist says) to keep themselves in power, and the massive societal change that goes along with it is just gravy. Meanwhile, though, they&#8217;re counting on ordinary, ornery Americans to do what they do &#8211; not to &#8220;shrug&#8221; too much &#8211; and pull us out of this. So their non-plan &#8211; to pull the U.S. out of this downturn &#8211; depends on other people&#8217;s drive, sacrifice, and generosity to do the actual work, while they can pursue their plan &#8211; to hold and solidify their position &#8211; and also take credit for the non-plan&#8217;s &#8220;success&#8221; without having to embrace the distasteful methods that actually bring it about.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/23/jonathan-alter-on-obama-americans-shrink-fdr/#comment-102189</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;In Alter’s cover story about Obama entitled “America’s New Shrink,” Alter tells us don’t worry, be happy, ...&lt;/i&gt;

In other news, Delta Burke tells her story of Love, Life, and Loss ;)

It&#039;s odd that Alter would choose to present himself as such a lick-spittle. Something that Liberals, of a certain stripe, often fail to comprehend is that few other people wish to view government officials as therapists, or benevolent fathers/mothers, or agents of some &#039;world spirit&#039;. The very proposition is insulting. This is America, we don&#039;t worship our elected officials.

You&#039;re seeing a lot of articles like Alter&#039;s at the moment. Of the &lt;b&gt;&#039;he may seem like he&#039;s flailing but it&#039;s all part of a master plan - he&#039;s got some kind of mojo that&#039;s just too powerful for us to resist&#039;&lt;/b&gt; variety. I wonder why that is? 


 Many White Liberals REALLY REALLY want Obama to be the heroic figure that they&#039;d perceived during the campaign. But of course campaigns are stage play, and while I&#039;m sure they recognize this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>In Alter’s cover story about Obama entitled “America’s New Shrink,” Alter tells us don’t worry, be happy, &#8230;</i></p>
<p>In other news, Delta Burke tells her story of Love, Life, and Loss <img src='http://neoneocon.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It&#8217;s odd that Alter would choose to present himself as such a lick-spittle. Something that Liberals, of a certain stripe, often fail to comprehend is that few other people wish to view government officials as therapists, or benevolent fathers/mothers, or agents of some &#8216;world spirit&#8217;. The very proposition is insulting. This is America, we don&#8217;t worship our elected officials.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re seeing a lot of articles like Alter&#8217;s at the moment. Of the <b>&#8216;he may seem like he&#8217;s flailing but it&#8217;s all part of a master plan &#8211; he&#8217;s got some kind of mojo that&#8217;s just too powerful for us to resist&#8217;</b> variety. I wonder why that is? </p>
<p> Many White Liberals REALLY REALLY want Obama to be the heroic figure that they&#8217;d perceived during the campaign. But of course campaigns are stage play, and while I&#8217;m sure they recognize this</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/23/jonathan-alter-on-obama-americans-shrink-fdr/#comment-102188</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone see that Alter interview when McCain ran the tv spots showing pictures of Franklin Raines with Obama.
Alter did not respond at all to McCain tying Raines to Obama, he said the spot showed two black men looming
over a white woman. McCain spreading Mandingo fear!
This is gonna end in a bunker....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone see that Alter interview when McCain ran the tv spots showing pictures of Franklin Raines with Obama.<br />
Alter did not respond at all to McCain tying Raines to Obama, he said the spot showed two black men looming<br />
over a white woman. McCain spreading Mandingo fear!<br />
This is gonna end in a bunker&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: armchair pessimist</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/23/jonathan-alter-on-obama-americans-shrink-fdr/#comment-102182</link>
		<dc:creator>armchair pessimist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 13:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think most of the Democrats are party hacks, who aren&#039;t thinking beyond rigging the system so that they will hold on to their jobs for life.   The ones who matter however have grander ambitions, which are to dissolve our good old USA into an entity called &quot;the world community&quot;.  The motives are ideological on the part of some; downright greedy on the part of others, who are international plutocrats loyal to nothing except more profits.  Obama belongs to the first camp.

This only way this can end peacefully is if we the people decide we don&#039;t wish to be &quot;men of valor&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think most of the Democrats are party hacks, who aren&#8217;t thinking beyond rigging the system so that they will hold on to their jobs for life.   The ones who matter however have grander ambitions, which are to dissolve our good old USA into an entity called &#8220;the world community&#8221;.  The motives are ideological on the part of some; downright greedy on the part of others, who are international plutocrats loyal to nothing except more profits.  Obama belongs to the first camp.</p>
<p>This only way this can end peacefully is if we the people decide we don&#8217;t wish to be &#8220;men of valor&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Oblio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oblio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 04:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get the feeling we are heading into a crisis worse than we have seen before with an empty suit in charge.  I expect tomorrow night will be bad.  Wednesday might be a rout in the in the markets.  They will smell irresponsibility and incompetence.

It&#039;s pretty clear that the government is going to lose the populist/Perotista vote in short order.  What is it going to take to turn the suburban &quot;social moms&quot; into &quot;safety moms?&quot;  

How bad will the international situation need to get before otherwise normal Democrats realize that this administration is putting them at risk, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get the feeling we are heading into a crisis worse than we have seen before with an empty suit in charge.  I expect tomorrow night will be bad.  Wednesday might be a rout in the in the markets.  They will smell irresponsibility and incompetence.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s pretty clear that the government is going to lose the populist/Perotista vote in short order.  What is it going to take to turn the suburban &#8220;social moms&#8221; into &#8220;safety moms?&#8221;  </p>
<p>How bad will the international situation need to get before otherwise normal Democrats realize that this administration is putting them at risk, too.</p>
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		<title>By: FredHjr</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/02/23/jonathan-alter-on-obama-americans-shrink-fdr/#comment-102171</link>
		<dc:creator>FredHjr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 04:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m at the point where I think I &quot;get&quot; the caption on the sign of that famous photo that&#039;s been on the web awhile, the one where a bunch of neighborhood guys are posing with their guns and rifles:  &quot;You Loot.  We Shoot.&quot;

Well, the federal government is really in the looting business big time now.  And it&#039;s gonna get worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m at the point where I think I &#8220;get&#8221; the caption on the sign of that famous photo that&#8217;s been on the web awhile, the one where a bunch of neighborhood guys are posing with their guns and rifles:  &#8220;You Loot.  We Shoot.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, the federal government is really in the looting business big time now.  And it&#8217;s gonna get worse.</p>
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		<title>By: huxley</title>
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		<dc:creator>huxley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 04:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the situation weren&#039;t so alarming -- the Dow down to 1997 levels and consumer confidence at another low -- it would be amusing to hear Mitsu burble on about what a joy it is to watch Obama learning to be President.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the situation weren&#8217;t so alarming &#8212; the Dow down to 1997 levels and consumer confidence at another low &#8212; it would be amusing to hear Mitsu burble on about what a joy it is to watch Obama learning to be President.</p>
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