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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/21/who-is-susceptible-to-obamalove-and-why/#comment-104962</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 18:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most snipers are men. Work of evolution. Most caretakers and those involved in social communication/networking are women. Work of evolution.

Even as our technology allows us to modify our social standards and free us from certain biological restrictions, evolution still remains the best and most important decider of human behavior.

Which is why reason and logic are so sparse these days in the United States. The sacrifices made, by men and women, have long since gone depleted in this nation of ours. The military has held us safe from foreign enemies, mostly, but they cannot protect us from ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most snipers are men. Work of evolution. Most caretakers and those involved in social communication/networking are women. Work of evolution.</p>
<p>Even as our technology allows us to modify our social standards and free us from certain biological restrictions, evolution still remains the best and most important decider of human behavior.</p>
<p>Which is why reason and logic are so sparse these days in the United States. The sacrifices made, by men and women, have long since gone depleted in this nation of ours. The military has held us safe from foreign enemies, mostly, but they cannot protect us from ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Oblio</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/21/who-is-susceptible-to-obamalove-and-why/#comment-104959</link>
		<dc:creator>Oblio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Becky.  Your comment speaks to the marvelous richness of social life.  My wife also makes me get up to check out noises in the night, and if I am slow to shovel the snow off the driveway, she admonishes me to get after the &quot;man work.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Becky.  Your comment speaks to the marvelous richness of social life.  My wife also makes me get up to check out noises in the night, and if I am slow to shovel the snow off the driveway, she admonishes me to get after the &#8220;man work.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/21/who-is-susceptible-to-obamalove-and-why/#comment-104957</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 16:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess the &quot;why can&#039;t a woman be more like a man&quot; question from &quot;My Fair Lady&quot; has still to be resolved.

At least for some. After 51 years of life, being a girl before a woman, I have decided for myself that women are different.  Here are a few of my observations from work and life:

Women have excuses like PMS, PP Depression, change of life to explain bad behaviour. Women have hormones, evidently men don&#039;t.

Women don&#039;t play professional basketball at the same level as men.

Women don&#039;t like each other as much as men like each other.

Women emphasize relationships, men emphasize missions. Women relate face to face, men work shoulder to shoulder.

Women will backstab and tattle in the work place on co workers.  A man will tell off another worker to his face or challenge them to a fight in the parking lot after work. 

Women are still the nurturers, by law and nature, but that does not mean they are nice. 

The fact that dads play with the kids is important. I was at a family gathering last year. It was an outside affair with kids, dogs, adults. The women stayed on the patio, talking, getting food ready, and the men were in the yard playing with the kids and dogs. Everyone said they had a good time.

I am an architectural technician, and for the most part, it is still a woman&#039;s house and a man&#039;s garage and basement for a married couple.

Women don&#039;t go into the hard sciences as often as men, just a fact.  

Women, even young independent ones today, still ultimately want to find a nice guy, get married (with 6 bridesmaids, cakes with fountains, etc.), have kids and even, surprise, not work while the kids are little. Men still want a good woman, kids and a home too, it is not all about sex.

I could go on, and I am not saying that women are inferior, just different.  Many liberal policies and postitions are based on equality doctrines,  that ignore sex differences, that is why women are more likely to favor liberal policies. Many women want to have babies, careers,  etc. without having to make trade offs.  Liberalism is a safety net.

I don&#039;t know if it is reality or idealism; having babies, raising children is a real (important) thing to do. I think the reality of family is different than the reality of the world.  Men are still seen as the protectors. I have a single friend who thinks we should pass a millage to add more police. We live in a small town that has very little crime, mostly small things.  I have a husband, who when I hear something, I make him get up and see what it is.  Strong marriages and families make less government intervention necessary. I am not saying my husband and me both could not be shot in our home, only that I am not as afraid as my single friend that I will be alone confronting danger (of all kinds).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess the &#8220;why can&#8217;t a woman be more like a man&#8221; question from &#8220;My Fair Lady&#8221; has still to be resolved.</p>
<p>At least for some. After 51 years of life, being a girl before a woman, I have decided for myself that women are different.  Here are a few of my observations from work and life:</p>
<p>Women have excuses like PMS, PP Depression, change of life to explain bad behaviour. Women have hormones, evidently men don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Women don&#8217;t play professional basketball at the same level as men.</p>
<p>Women don&#8217;t like each other as much as men like each other.</p>
<p>Women emphasize relationships, men emphasize missions. Women relate face to face, men work shoulder to shoulder.</p>
<p>Women will backstab and tattle in the work place on co workers.  A man will tell off another worker to his face or challenge them to a fight in the parking lot after work. </p>
<p>Women are still the nurturers, by law and nature, but that does not mean they are nice. </p>
<p>The fact that dads play with the kids is important. I was at a family gathering last year. It was an outside affair with kids, dogs, adults. The women stayed on the patio, talking, getting food ready, and the men were in the yard playing with the kids and dogs. Everyone said they had a good time.</p>
<p>I am an architectural technician, and for the most part, it is still a woman&#8217;s house and a man&#8217;s garage and basement for a married couple.</p>
<p>Women don&#8217;t go into the hard sciences as often as men, just a fact.  </p>
<p>Women, even young independent ones today, still ultimately want to find a nice guy, get married (with 6 bridesmaids, cakes with fountains, etc.), have kids and even, surprise, not work while the kids are little. Men still want a good woman, kids and a home too, it is not all about sex.</p>
<p>I could go on, and I am not saying that women are inferior, just different.  Many liberal policies and postitions are based on equality doctrines,  that ignore sex differences, that is why women are more likely to favor liberal policies. Many women want to have babies, careers,  etc. without having to make trade offs.  Liberalism is a safety net.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if it is reality or idealism; having babies, raising children is a real (important) thing to do. I think the reality of family is different than the reality of the world.  Men are still seen as the protectors. I have a single friend who thinks we should pass a millage to add more police. We live in a small town that has very little crime, mostly small things.  I have a husband, who when I hear something, I make him get up and see what it is.  Strong marriages and families make less government intervention necessary. I am not saying my husband and me both could not be shot in our home, only that I am not as afraid as my single friend that I will be alone confronting danger (of all kinds).</p>
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		<title>By: Occam's Beard</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/21/who-is-susceptible-to-obamalove-and-why/#comment-104880</link>
		<dc:creator>Occam's Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To trot out one hoary chestnut, that nevertheless has some truth to it: men are more interested in things and/or abstractions, women more interested in people.

Comparison of Spike TV with the Lifetime channel, or guy movies with chick flicks, suggests that that chestnut has some merit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To trot out one hoary chestnut, that nevertheless has some truth to it: men are more interested in things and/or abstractions, women more interested in people.</p>
<p>Comparison of Spike TV with the Lifetime channel, or guy movies with chick flicks, suggests that that chestnut has some merit.</p>
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		<title>By: Oblio</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/21/who-is-susceptible-to-obamalove-and-why/#comment-104859</link>
		<dc:creator>Oblio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 06:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Individual women might be quite interested in studying any and all of these topics.  I am interested in what happens when women discuss these topics in a group setting, and in even more when they discuss them with men present.  I would expect some different behavioral dynamics to be present.

In my experience, men often compete with each other by arguing through opinions about sports, history, business, economics.  Depth of knowledge about these topics, command of the facts, and forcefulness of logic increase your status among other men.

I think that status displays work differently among women, and that command of these particular areas is not relevant to the large majority of women...to specialists, of course it is relevant for professional reasons.

Fred, you should ask your wife for her insight on the question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Individual women might be quite interested in studying any and all of these topics.  I am interested in what happens when women discuss these topics in a group setting, and in even more when they discuss them with men present.  I would expect some different behavioral dynamics to be present.</p>
<p>In my experience, men often compete with each other by arguing through opinions about sports, history, business, economics.  Depth of knowledge about these topics, command of the facts, and forcefulness of logic increase your status among other men.</p>
<p>I think that status displays work differently among women, and that command of these particular areas is not relevant to the large majority of women&#8230;to specialists, of course it is relevant for professional reasons.</p>
<p>Fred, you should ask your wife for her insight on the question.</p>
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		<title>By: FredHjr</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/21/who-is-susceptible-to-obamalove-and-why/#comment-104849</link>
		<dc:creator>FredHjr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oblio,

Why do you think it is that most women are not interested in history, economics, government, and philosophy and war?  After all, they examine and explore the nature of the world and its workings.  Who would not be curious about these things?  Even back when I was an adolescent I was fascinated with the questions about the world and how it works.

It most certainly is not the case that they are less intelligent than we are.  But they are less curious and exploratory about these things and many seem to fall in line with the Leftist cant (o.k., I know... social conformity).  You may have something about that.  My wife, as intelligent and curious as she is, does have her spots where she defaults to female conformity and it&#039;s quite unconscious.  In all fairness, there are men who are like this too.  However, most guys my age and older could give a rat&#039;s ass about conforming.  They do what they are required to do at the office and that&#039;s it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oblio,</p>
<p>Why do you think it is that most women are not interested in history, economics, government, and philosophy and war?  After all, they examine and explore the nature of the world and its workings.  Who would not be curious about these things?  Even back when I was an adolescent I was fascinated with the questions about the world and how it works.</p>
<p>It most certainly is not the case that they are less intelligent than we are.  But they are less curious and exploratory about these things and many seem to fall in line with the Leftist cant (o.k., I know&#8230; social conformity).  You may have something about that.  My wife, as intelligent and curious as she is, does have her spots where she defaults to female conformity and it&#8217;s quite unconscious.  In all fairness, there are men who are like this too.  However, most guys my age and older could give a rat&#8217;s ass about conforming.  They do what they are required to do at the office and that&#8217;s it.</p>
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		<title>By: Oblio</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/21/who-is-susceptible-to-obamalove-and-why/#comment-104847</link>
		<dc:creator>Oblio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>huxley, my wife is well-equipped to tell me a thing or two on these topics.  But perhaps she is exceptional.  I think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huxley, my wife is well-equipped to tell me a thing or two on these topics.  But perhaps she is exceptional.  I think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Oblio</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/21/who-is-susceptible-to-obamalove-and-why/#comment-104844</link>
		<dc:creator>Oblio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:48:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, Neo, I&#039;ll bite, and ask the question again.  Are the women you are talking about still exposed to social risk?  Are the biggest stories of their lives still tied up in their romantic relationships past, present, and future, and do those stories have a lot to do with where and how they fit in?  What would happen to them if they started espousing heterodox views about war, economics, history, culture, and politics? 

I attended a cocktail party a few weeks ago where everyone was in their 60&#039;s and 70&#039;s, and every woman I met defined herself in terms of what she wasn&#039;t encouraged to do 40 years ago (study science, become a doctor, whatever).  Even the ones who became doctors were still complaining. 

I will accept that ignorance of history, war, and economics makes it impossible for them to examine the atmospherics of the MSM with anything like critical detachment.  

But it still seems to me that we need to look at this as a social phenomenon, and not a matter where we will be able to use facts and reason to much avail.  These opinions are deep-seated, but they aren&#039;t based on knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Neo, I&#8217;ll bite, and ask the question again.  Are the women you are talking about still exposed to social risk?  Are the biggest stories of their lives still tied up in their romantic relationships past, present, and future, and do those stories have a lot to do with where and how they fit in?  What would happen to them if they started espousing heterodox views about war, economics, history, culture, and politics? </p>
<p>I attended a cocktail party a few weeks ago where everyone was in their 60&#8242;s and 70&#8242;s, and every woman I met defined herself in terms of what she wasn&#8217;t encouraged to do 40 years ago (study science, become a doctor, whatever).  Even the ones who became doctors were still complaining. </p>
<p>I will accept that ignorance of history, war, and economics makes it impossible for them to examine the atmospherics of the MSM with anything like critical detachment.  </p>
<p>But it still seems to me that we need to look at this as a social phenomenon, and not a matter where we will be able to use facts and reason to much avail.  These opinions are deep-seated, but they aren&#8217;t based on knowledge.</p>
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		<title>By: FredHjr</title>
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		<dc:creator>FredHjr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>neo,

My wife must be an exception to the norm.  She is more realistic than most.  In fact, she was a conservative before I was.  Like, when I first met her.  I had only recently put Marxist thinking behind me when I met her, but was sort of a soft &quot;liberal&quot; after that for awhile.  She tolerated it.  More than that, she would make very good arguments and I would listen to her, as she listened to me.  Occasionally, she would even agree with me.  Today, she remarks about how far I&#039;ve traversed the spectrum from what I was when I first met her back in &#039;87.  Interestingly, her sister and her sister&#039;s husband were Reagan supporters back in the Eighties and are now damn near socialists in their thinking.  They&#039;ve gone in the opposite direction from me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neo,</p>
<p>My wife must be an exception to the norm.  She is more realistic than most.  In fact, she was a conservative before I was.  Like, when I first met her.  I had only recently put Marxist thinking behind me when I met her, but was sort of a soft &#8220;liberal&#8221; after that for awhile.  She tolerated it.  More than that, she would make very good arguments and I would listen to her, as she listened to me.  Occasionally, she would even agree with me.  Today, she remarks about how far I&#8217;ve traversed the spectrum from what I was when I first met her back in &#8217;87.  Interestingly, her sister and her sister&#8217;s husband were Reagan supporters back in the Eighties and are now damn near socialists in their thinking.  They&#8217;ve gone in the opposite direction from me.</p>
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		<title>By: huxley</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/21/who-is-susceptible-to-obamalove-and-why/#comment-104839</link>
		<dc:creator>huxley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally I don&#039;t know any women who study politics, history, and economics as the participants in this blog do. Several of my male friends do this and deeply.

I know a few women who learn enough of the left&#039;s talking points to be so suitably indignant now and then, but that&#039;s it.

I wonder if this does not go back to paleolithic warriors sitting around the campfire figuring out how to protect the tribe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I don&#8217;t know any women who study politics, history, and economics as the participants in this blog do. Several of my male friends do this and deeply.</p>
<p>I know a few women who learn enough of the left&#8217;s talking points to be so suitably indignant now and then, but that&#8217;s it.</p>
<p>I wonder if this does not go back to paleolithic warriors sitting around the campfire figuring out how to protect the tribe.</p>
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