Comments on: Another puzzling bout of Obama administration cluelessness—or something else? http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/23/another-puzzling-bout-of-obama-administration-cluelessness-or-something-else/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:37:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Artfldgr http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/23/another-puzzling-bout-of-obama-administration-cluelessness-or-something-else/#comment-104874 Artfldgr Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:45:22 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/23/another-puzzling-bout-of-obama-administration-cluelessness-or-something-else/#comment-104874 www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/03/fall_out_from_massive_spending.html Fall out from massive spending: China wants new reserve currency [and we are printing like crazy... they drop it, and everythin will be worthless, and you can guarantee that a new world war where the US loses will occur since we have no factories nor will we be able to build any with our own people against themselves] <i>Analysts said the proposal was an indication of Beijing’s fears that actions being taken to save the domestic US economy would have a negative impact on China. “This is a clear sign that China, as the largest holder of US dollar financial assets, is concerned about the potential inflationary risk of the US Federal Reserve printing money,” said Qu Hongbin, chief China economist for HSBC. Although Mr Zhou did not mention the US dollar, the essay gave a pointed critique of the current dollar-dominated monetary system. “The outbreak of the [current] crisis and its spillover to the entire world reflected the inherent vulnerabilities and systemic risks in the existing international monetary system,” Mr Zhou wrote. China has little choice but to hold the bulk of its $2,000bn of foreign exchange reserves in US dollars, and this is unlikely to change in the near future. To replace the current system, Mr Zhou suggested expanding the role of special drawing rights, which were introduced by the IMF in 1969 to support the Bretton Woods fixed exchange rate regime but became less relevant once that collapsed in the 1970s. Today, the value of SDRs is based on a basket of four currencies – the US dollar, yen, euro and sterling – and they are used largely as a unit of account by the IMF and some other international organisations. </i> the weimar republic lost, a new man has been elected, and he is driving the whole thing purposefully into a wall for one world communist government... a romanian friend is so scared she is contemplating suicide, and she is a park ave doctor. but she grew up there and remembers first hand, unlike me, who only remembers a whole family who acted like her. http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/03/fall_out_from_massive_spending.html

Fall out from massive spending: China wants new reserve currency

[and we are printing like crazy... they drop it, and everythin will be worthless, and you can guarantee that a new world war where the US loses will occur since we have no factories nor will we be able to build any with our own people against themselves]

Analysts said the proposal was an indication of Beijing’s fears that actions being taken to save the domestic US economy would have a negative impact on China.

“This is a clear sign that China, as the largest holder of US dollar financial assets, is concerned about the potential inflationary risk of the US Federal Reserve printing money,” said Qu Hongbin, chief China economist for HSBC.

Although Mr Zhou did not mention the US dollar, the essay gave a pointed critique of the current dollar-dominated monetary system.

“The outbreak of the [current] crisis and its spillover to the entire world reflected the inherent vulnerabilities and systemic risks in the existing international monetary system,” Mr Zhou wrote.

China has little choice but to hold the bulk of its $2,000bn of foreign exchange reserves in US dollars, and this is unlikely to change in the near future.

To replace the current system, Mr Zhou suggested expanding the role of special drawing rights, which were introduced by the IMF in 1969 to support the Bretton Woods fixed exchange rate regime but became less relevant once that collapsed in the 1970s.

Today, the value of SDRs is based on a basket of four currencies – the US dollar, yen, euro and sterling – and they are used largely as a unit of account by the IMF and some other international organisations.

the weimar republic lost, a new man has been elected, and he is driving the whole thing purposefully into a wall for one world communist government…

a romanian friend is so scared she is contemplating suicide, and she is a park ave doctor. but she grew up there and remembers first hand, unlike me, who only remembers a whole family who acted like her.

]]> By: Artfldgr http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/23/another-puzzling-bout-of-obama-administration-cluelessness-or-something-else/#comment-104872 Artfldgr Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:21:49 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/23/another-puzzling-bout-of-obama-administration-cluelessness-or-something-else/#comment-104872 i guess writing to the president of france jaques chirac and telling how you will work with him when he was two years out of office... not to bright. and how about the secret meeting between gorbachev, biden and obama? where the excuse for it being secret is obama wanders aroudn the white house? of course, this urgine Persistroika (restructuring, which in the past i gave the german word for it). www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE52M2RG20090323 if it werent for Konstantin Petrenko, the people of the US would not know that our president and people are having secret meetings with ex soviet leaders... (in the past leaders werent allowed to meet behind closed doors, this prevented collusion against thie own people). “The president tends to roam around the larger (White) House and sometimes walks into meetings that weren't previously on his schedule.” - Gibbs I have no knowlege of tom fife so its not vetted www.americantownmeeting.com/Essays.php press on the obama essay / i have yet to read pandora.. <i>Well, I think you are going to be surprised when you get a black president very soon. What if I told you that you will have a black president very soon and he will be a Communist? Well, you will; and he will be a Communist. Yes, it is true. This is not some idle talk. He is already born and he is educated and being groomed to be president right now. You will be impressed to know that he has gone to the best schools of Presidents. He is what you call "Ivy League". You don't believe me, but he is real and I even know his name. His name is Barack. His mother is white and American and his father is black from Africa. That's right, a chocolate baby! And he's going to be your President. It's all been thought out. His father is not an American black so he won't have that social slave stigma. He is intelligent and he is half white and has been raised from the cradle to be an atheist and a Communist. He's gone to the finest schools. He is being guided every step of the way and he will be irresistible to America. "She was full of little details about him,” Fife continues, “that she was eager to relate. I thought that maybe she was trying to show off that this truly was a real person and not just hot air. She rattled off a complete litany. He was from Hawaii. He went to school in California. He lived in Chicago. He was soon to be elected to the legislature.” “Have no doubt,” T.M. gushed, “he is one of us, a Soviet. . . . he will be a blessing for world Communism. We will regain our strength and become the number one power in the world." ”So, what does this conversation from 1992 prove? Well, it's definitely anecdotal,” Fife admits, adding: It doesn't prove that Obama has had Soviet Communist training nor that he was groomed to be the first black American president, but it does show one thing that I think is very important. It shows that Soviet Russian Communists knew of Barack from a very early date. It also shows that they truly believed among themselves that he was raised and groomed Communist to pave the way for their future. This report on Barack came personally to me from one of them long before America knew he existed. Although I had never before heard of him, at the time of this conversation Obama was 30+ years old and was obviously tested enough that he was their anticipated rising star. </i> a speech transcript posted on the CFR website where U.S. National Security Adviser Jones declared the following: Thank you for that wonderful tribute to Henry Kissinger yesterday. Congratulations. As the most recent National Security Advisor of the United States, <b> I take my daily orders from Dr. Kissinger, filtered down through General Brent Scowcroft and Sandy Berger, who is also here</b>. We have a chain of command in the National Security Council that exists today. James L Jones / en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_L._Jones the 45th Munich Conference on Security Policy at the Hotel Bayerischer Hof on February 8, 2009 i guess writing to the president of france jaques chirac and telling how you will work with him when he was two years out of office… not to bright.

and how about the secret meeting between gorbachev, biden and obama? where the excuse for it being secret is obama wanders aroudn the white house? of course, this urgine Persistroika (restructuring, which in the past i gave the german word for it).

http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE52M2RG20090323

if it werent for Konstantin Petrenko, the people of the US would not know that our president and people are having secret meetings with ex soviet leaders… (in the past leaders werent allowed to meet behind closed doors, this prevented collusion against thie own people).

“The president tends to roam around the larger (White) House and sometimes walks into meetings that weren’t previously on his schedule.” – Gibbs

I have no knowlege of tom fife so its not vetted
http://www.americantownmeeting.com/Essays.php
press on the obama essay / i have yet to read pandora..

Well, I think you are going to be surprised when you get a black president very soon. What if I told you that you will have a black president very soon and he will be a Communist?

Well, you will; and he will be a Communist. Yes, it is true. This is not some idle talk. He is already born and he is educated and being groomed to be president right now. You will be impressed to know that he has gone to the best schools of Presidents. He is what you call “Ivy League”. You don’t believe me, but he is real and I even know his name. His name is Barack. His mother is white and American and his father is black from Africa. That’s right, a chocolate baby! And he’s going to be your President.

It’s all been thought out. His father is not an American black so he won’t have that social slave stigma. He is intelligent and he is half white and has been raised from the cradle to be an atheist and a Communist. He’s gone to the finest schools. He is being guided every step of the way and he will be irresistible to America.

“She was full of little details about him,” Fife continues, “that she was eager to relate. I thought that maybe she was trying to show off that this truly was a real person and not just hot air. She rattled off a complete litany. He was from Hawaii. He went to school in California. He lived in Chicago. He was soon to be elected to the legislature.”

“Have no doubt,” T.M. gushed, “he is one of us, a Soviet. . . . he will be a blessing for world Communism. We will regain our strength and become the number one power in the world.” ”So, what does this conversation from 1992 prove? Well, it’s definitely anecdotal,” Fife admits, adding:

It doesn’t prove that Obama has had Soviet Communist training nor that he was groomed to be the first black American president, but it does show one thing that I think is very important. It shows that Soviet Russian Communists knew of Barack from a very early date. It also shows that they truly believed among themselves that he was raised and groomed Communist to pave the way for their future. This report on Barack came personally to me from one of them long before America knew he existed. Although I had never before heard of him, at the time of this conversation Obama was 30+ years old and was obviously tested enough that he was their anticipated rising star.

a speech transcript posted on the CFR website where U.S. National Security Adviser Jones declared the following:
Thank you for that wonderful tribute to Henry Kissinger yesterday. Congratulations. As the most recent National Security Advisor of the United States, I take my daily orders from Dr. Kissinger, filtered down through General Brent Scowcroft and Sandy Berger, who is also here. We have a chain of command in the National Security Council that exists today. James L Jones / en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_L._Jones the 45th Munich Conference on Security Policy at the Hotel Bayerischer Hof on February 8, 2009

]]> By: br549 http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/23/another-puzzling-bout-of-obama-administration-cluelessness-or-something-else/#comment-104864 br549 Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:55:56 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/23/another-puzzling-bout-of-obama-administration-cluelessness-or-something-else/#comment-104864 artfldgr: This is America. That kind of stuff can't happen here. That belief above is part of the biggest problem I see. People do not, or will not see just what I feel, anyway, is actually going on. It is much easier to dismiss someone who sees this as happening, as a paranoid idiot or some sort of fringe loon. People sleep better at night. My daughter was telling me about the frog in the pot on the stove. I guess most of you have heard this. I had not at the time. But then, she's the one getting the PhD in bio chemistry / bio engineering, not me. Throw a frog into a boiling pot of water, and he immediately jumps out. However, put a frog in a pot of room temperature water and turn on the heat, and he will sit there as the heat slowly rises, until fully cooked. Can I get a ribbit!? artfldgr:

This is America. That kind of stuff can’t happen here.

That belief above is part of the biggest problem I see. People do not, or will not see just what I feel, anyway, is actually going on. It is much easier to dismiss someone who sees this as happening, as a paranoid idiot or some sort of fringe loon. People sleep better at night.

My daughter was telling me about the frog in the pot on the stove. I guess most of you have heard this. I had not at the time. But then, she’s the one getting the PhD in bio chemistry / bio engineering, not me.

Throw a frog into a boiling pot of water, and he immediately jumps out. However, put a frog in a pot of room temperature water and turn on the heat, and he will sit there as the heat slowly rises, until fully cooked.

Can I get a ribbit!?

]]> By: Artfldgr http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/23/another-puzzling-bout-of-obama-administration-cluelessness-or-something-else/#comment-104793 Artfldgr Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:58:19 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/23/another-puzzling-bout-of-obama-administration-cluelessness-or-something-else/#comment-104793 "When you rely on evidence, it's twisted … We rely on the cognitive science framing theory, to frame things the way you want the reader to understand them to be true." Cambourne Cambourne is the leader in the whole word reading programs in australia... his memos got leaked, and its a peak into their 'ways'. that they do know what they are doing, what the outcomes will be, and that they are using other means to move any real discussion off plate (you can see it here in neo's place too as those who are receptive adopt techniques that they think are valid to a process, but destroy it), and to win the points through manipulaiting peoples thinking procesess... if you have read as much as i have, you would literally know thousands of such slips, that people refuse to realize give you a peek into a heinious situation that is forever treated as a incompetent one, or good intentions gone bad. its intentional, its designed to do what it does, you can read about it, i can tell you how to join and move up fast, its formalized, and we have been watching it happen in front of us denynig its the same mostly because we dont speak german, arent educated, and for some reason refuse to adjust our theories to fit the situation as long as a conclusion of stupid is available. in times like these i wish i was stupid enough to be president of the US... shows you how dumb that concept is... we are moving, if it gets to complete things to the point where the current politicians have a good future vested in this stuff, we are then done for... with the rate ot change only being aligned with our inability to react... if we react, then they will pull back, but they are working on 40 fronts at once, and more... so one pull back for afew months means nothing... and wholesale house cleaning is what we wont do the way the new regime will when they get tthe final power. will to power go to the letter that started teh cold war ad read why we would never have peace... i know in all the times i have recomended this, not one person has gone and read it... (which is why my posts get large). if they did, they would have rad the part about how they have only the will to power, and figure good governance and such comes naturally later, its not a problem. so all the misery and such they are causing, they think is the pain from any redecorating, and NOT the pain of dying. all pain to them is just complainers against them. its like a doctor who thinks teh more pain they cause the better the work they do. now they are moving to use psyuchology again... and otehr things... after all, what bumper stickers and such you have can get you into trouble, and there are more stories in the papers of citizens being visited by the services for saying innocuous things. or having a bumper sticker. its going to get weird... and the people that will do well are those who lived this before.. like my family... soon it will be time to start going through all your personal belongings to insure that some sign, some sticker, button, or smoething will not get you in trouble. “When you rely on evidence, it’s twisted … We rely on the cognitive science framing theory, to frame things the way you want the reader to understand them to be true.” Cambourne

Cambourne is the leader in the whole word reading programs in australia… his memos got leaked, and its a peak into their ‘ways’.

that they do know what they are doing, what the outcomes will be, and that they are using other means to move any real discussion off plate (you can see it here in neo’s place too as those who are receptive adopt techniques that they think are valid to a process, but destroy it), and to win the points through manipulaiting peoples thinking procesess…

if you have read as much as i have, you would literally know thousands of such slips, that people refuse to realize give you a peek into a heinious situation that is forever treated as a incompetent one, or good intentions gone bad.

its intentional, its designed to do what it does, you can read about it, i can tell you how to join and move up fast, its formalized, and we have been watching it happen in front of us denynig its the same mostly because we dont speak german, arent educated, and for some reason refuse to adjust our theories to fit the situation as long as a conclusion of stupid is available.

in times like these i wish i was stupid enough to be president of the US… shows you how dumb that concept is…

we are moving, if it gets to complete things to the point where the current politicians have a good future vested in this stuff, we are then done for… with the rate ot change only being aligned with our inability to react… if we react, then they will pull back, but they are working on 40 fronts at once, and more… so one pull back for afew months means nothing… and wholesale house cleaning is what we wont do the way the new regime will when they get tthe final power.

will to power

go to the letter that started teh cold war ad read why we would never have peace… i know in all the times i have recomended this, not one person has gone and read it… (which is why my posts get large). if they did, they would have rad the part about how they have only the will to power, and figure good governance and such comes naturally later, its not a problem. so all the misery and such they are causing, they think is the pain from any redecorating, and NOT the pain of dying.

all pain to them is just complainers against them.

its like a doctor who thinks teh more pain they cause the better the work they do.

now they are moving to use psyuchology again… and otehr things… after all, what bumper stickers and such you have can get you into trouble, and there are more stories in the papers of citizens being visited by the services for saying innocuous things. or having a bumper sticker.

its going to get weird… and the people that will do well are those who lived this before.. like my family… soon it will be time to start going through all your personal belongings to insure that some sign, some sticker, button, or smoething will not get you in trouble.

]]> By: Occam's Beard http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/23/another-puzzling-bout-of-obama-administration-cluelessness-or-something-else/#comment-104775 Occam's Beard Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:19:49 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/23/another-puzzling-bout-of-obama-administration-cluelessness-or-something-else/#comment-104775 <blockquote>We want to change health care, we just get a bunch of smart people together, make a plan, and do it - of course it will mostly work, and we’ll just fix the details as we go along.</blockquote> This touches on something that I find increasingly annoying: the leftist tendency to prepend “smart” to such nouns as diplomacy, policies, and warfare. (A while ago the catchall adjective was “robust,” but it now seems out of favor.) It’s gratuitous (who proposes pursuing “stupid” policies?), judgment-laden, condescending, and smug, because it invites the conclusion that those advocating “smart” options must themselves have great intelligence. Ironically, people who assert most vociferously that they are smart...aren’t. Call it the “Fredo effect.”

We want to change health care, we just get a bunch of smart people together, make a plan, and do it – of course it will mostly work, and we’ll just fix the details as we go along.

This touches on something that I find increasingly annoying: the leftist tendency to prepend “smart” to such nouns as diplomacy, policies, and warfare. (A while ago the catchall adjective was “robust,” but it now seems out of favor.) It’s gratuitous (who proposes pursuing “stupid” policies?), judgment-laden, condescending, and smug, because it invites the conclusion that those advocating “smart” options must themselves have great intelligence. Ironically, people who assert most vociferously that they are smart…aren’t. Call it the “Fredo effect.”

]]> By: physics geek http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/23/another-puzzling-bout-of-obama-administration-cluelessness-or-something-else/#comment-104771 physics geek Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:40:06 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/23/another-puzzling-bout-of-obama-administration-cluelessness-or-something-else/#comment-104771 I keep hoping that this country will wake up, but I remain somewhat cynical. The true believers of The One are not fazed by anything that he does. Apparently they do believe, as John Scalzi once opined (and he's a died in the wool lefty), that Obama does fart cinnamon scented rainbows. Arguing with such people is a waste of time. Facts? Evidence? They have no need of such things. Blind adoration sustains them. And despite the hit the Democrats are taking for the nonsense, the GOP continues to be the party of the stupid. Apparently no real leadership exists within that party; no one from the Republicans seems to want to take advantage of Gaffe factory that DC is today. This, while disappointing, does not surprise me. I keep hoping that this country will wake up, but I remain somewhat cynical. The true believers of The One are not fazed by anything that he does. Apparently they do believe, as John Scalzi once opined (and he’s a died in the wool lefty), that Obama does fart cinnamon scented rainbows. Arguing with such people is a waste of time. Facts? Evidence? They have no need of such things. Blind adoration sustains them.

And despite the hit the Democrats are taking for the nonsense, the GOP continues to be the party of the stupid. Apparently no real leadership exists within that party; no one from the Republicans seems to want to take advantage of Gaffe factory that DC is today. This, while disappointing, does not surprise me.

]]> By: br549 http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/23/another-puzzling-bout-of-obama-administration-cluelessness-or-something-else/#comment-104770 br549 Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:09:42 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/23/another-puzzling-bout-of-obama-administration-cluelessness-or-something-else/#comment-104770 Paul Gordon: Pretty soon, they will have the guns. Then it will be through the bullet. Every now and then one reads about kids turning in their own parents for smoking dope. So it's already working. It's not the dope you see, that's just the carrier wave; it's the fact the government already has kids turning against their parents. How long, I wonder, before something goes kaboom in the minds of those who do not ascribe to the direction we are heading? If I did not have kids and a grand son I would not be as concerned - no, angry about and for - the future. I mean, one has to admit, there has been nothing like what we are seeing ever before in this nation. Is there anyone who does not see that, left or right? Paul Gordon:

Pretty soon, they will have the guns. Then it will be through the bullet.

Every now and then one reads about kids turning in their own parents for smoking dope. So it’s already working. It’s not the dope you see, that’s just the carrier wave; it’s the fact the government already has kids turning against their parents.

How long, I wonder, before something goes kaboom in the minds of those who do not ascribe to the direction we are heading? If I did not have kids and a grand son I would not be as concerned – no, angry about and for – the future.

I mean, one has to admit, there has been nothing like what we are seeing ever before in this nation. Is there anyone who does not see that, left or right?

]]> By: Paul Gordon http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/23/another-puzzling-bout-of-obama-administration-cluelessness-or-something-else/#comment-104766 Paul Gordon Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:52:05 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/23/another-puzzling-bout-of-obama-administration-cluelessness-or-something-else/#comment-104766 This just in... <a href="http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/03/house-passes-dear-leaders-hitler-youth.html" rel="nofollow"><b>House Passes Hitler Youth Bill </b></a> He told us he was going to do this. It's hardly HIS fault if no one listened. - This just in…

House Passes Hitler Youth Bill

He told us he was going to do this.
It’s hardly HIS fault if no one listened.

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]]> By: Michael http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/23/another-puzzling-bout-of-obama-administration-cluelessness-or-something-else/#comment-104764 Michael Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:05:08 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/23/another-puzzling-bout-of-obama-administration-cluelessness-or-something-else/#comment-104764 <strong>What will the people with “responsibility” have later in life.</strong> Same thing as "people of responsibility" have now. Nothing. What will the people with “responsibility” have later in life.

Same thing as “people of responsibility” have now.

Nothing.

]]> By: Assistant Village Idiot http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/23/another-puzzling-bout-of-obama-administration-cluelessness-or-something-else/#comment-104762 Assistant Village Idiot Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:37:49 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/03/23/another-puzzling-bout-of-obama-administration-cluelessness-or-something-else/#comment-104762 There is uncomfortable commitment on the left to the idea that we can just make things as we want by declaration. We want to change health care, we just get a bunch of smart people together, make a plan, and do it - of course it will mostly work, and we'll just fix the details as we go along. Because it's a Good Thing, y'know, and all those naysayers are just pessimists who can't see the New Era, or else they're special interests. The possibility that they might be creating a catastrophe - that their critics might have substantive reasons for their objections - does not seem to even occur to them. I recall that George Bush took 18 months of negotiations and popular debate before going into Iraq, yet was still accused of being precipitous (whatever complaints one might have about OIF, "precipitous" wasn't one of them). Now we blithely rush in where angels fear to tread in the economy. It reminds me of an old song (cue orchestra) <i>Fools rush in, where wise men never go. But wise men never fall in love...</i> They are behaving like people in love. There is uncomfortable commitment on the left to the idea that we can just make things as we want by declaration. We want to change health care, we just get a bunch of smart people together, make a plan, and do it – of course it will mostly work, and we’ll just fix the details as we go along. Because it’s a Good Thing, y’know, and all those naysayers are just pessimists who can’t see the New Era, or else they’re special interests.

The possibility that they might be creating a catastrophe – that their critics might have substantive reasons for their objections – does not seem to even occur to them.

I recall that George Bush took 18 months of negotiations and popular debate before going into Iraq, yet was still accused of being precipitous (whatever complaints one might have about OIF, “precipitous” wasn’t one of them). Now we blithely rush in where angels fear to tread in the economy.

It reminds me of an old song (cue orchestra) Fools rush in, where wise men never go. But wise men never fall in love… They are behaving like people in love.

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