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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/04/05/obama-throws-america-under-the-bus/#comment-106100</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;so that accounts for the time, but where would be the right place?&lt;/b&gt;

Anywhere where the Left can gain power by exploiting the deaths of others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>so that accounts for the time, but where would be the right place?</b></p>
<p>Anywhere where the Left can gain power by exploiting the deaths of others.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/04/05/obama-throws-america-under-the-bus/#comment-106099</link>
		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:38:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Log, you&#039;d be the first to stand with the Chinese police as they beat to death Tibetan monks.

How you think you got the stuff to talk about Bush,must be an inevitably production of self-righteousness. Your certainty. Your unbridled pride in Obama, that he cannot be criticized, only a sacrificial goat like Bush or Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Log, you&#8217;d be the first to stand with the Chinese police as they beat to death Tibetan monks.</p>
<p>How you think you got the stuff to talk about Bush,must be an inevitably production of self-righteousness. Your certainty. Your unbridled pride in Obama, that he cannot be criticized, only a sacrificial goat like Bush or Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: Occam's Beard</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/04/05/obama-throws-america-under-the-bus/#comment-105930</link>
		<dc:creator>Occam's Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;the wrong war at the wrong time&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I love this bit of disinformation, straight from the stable floor to us. What exactly would be the right war at the right time? Presumably we would need a Dem in the White House, so that accounts for the time, but where would be the right place?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>the wrong war at the wrong time</p></blockquote>
<p>I love this bit of disinformation, straight from the stable floor to us. What exactly would be the right war at the right time? Presumably we would need a Dem in the White House, so that accounts for the time, but where would be the right place?</p>
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		<title>By: Wolla Dalbo</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/04/05/obama-throws-america-under-the-bus/#comment-105920</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolla Dalbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a famous pamphlet written by Lenin famously asked, “What Is To Be Done”?

Obama &amp; Co. have not yet been in office for 100 days and they and Democratic majorities in the House and Senate have already pushed through revolutionary legislation and a bankrupting budget, effectively nationalized or seized corporations and dismissed a CEO—with more to come, set in motion a vast expansion of the money supply—hello, runaway inflation, are set to pass an energy “cap and trade” policy designed, in the words of Obama, to “bankrupt the coal industry,” which, it is estimated, will double and perhaps triple home electric bills, set in motion White House actions to seize control of both the Census and the ability to shut down parts of the Internet, started the formation of a massive civilian power base, consisting of a series of new or vastly expanded and well-funded “people’s organizations” combined with a massive re-inflation of the welfare class, and will shortly pass a GIVE act requiring “mandatory” public service, funded corrupt, leftist, vote-fixing ACORN with several hundreds of millions of dollars and given them a role in hiring Census enumerators, given the envious and angry among us a class of “enemies of the people” to hate, when Obama personally demonized AIG employees and the entrepreneurial class, displayed conspicuous weakness in foreign policy, just signed an agreement that will effectively place U.S. businesses under EU regulation, literally kowtowed to the Muslim king of Saudi Arabia and the Muslim world, apologized to the world in general for being American, and displayed a level of ignorance, arrogance, and rudeness towards our Allies worse that any I can think of;  and this is just the start.  

If Obama and the Democrats have their way, by the time the 2010 election rolls around traditional, conservative, capitalistic and free America will not be recognizable, and by the time the 2012 Presidential election rolls around, these drastic changes to America they will have put into place will not be easily uprooted or reversed or--as I am sure Obama intends--may be irreversible, and, by then, it may not be Obama the removable President, but Obama the un-removable Tyrant.

So, what is to be done?

Democrats and the Left have control of the Presidency and both Houses of Congress, the MSM and Academia.  The recent action by Democrats to use the “reconciliation” process (a maneuver which allowed them to vote this astronomical Budget through with less votes than they would normally need) to ram through their budget--with Republicans given exactly 20 minutes of debate time to present their alternative budget--shows that they are not going to let the Republican minority have any real chance of blocking, significantly slowing or modifying the “Obama/Marxist/Socialist Revolution.”  Because of way Democrats have played it--try as they and their captive MSM will try to deflect responsibility--the disastrous results of all these proposals for America will all be laid at the feet of Obama and the Democratic Party.

Three “Republican” Senator’s votes helped pass the Democrat’s entering wedge, H.R. 1—the $ 700 million dollar Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, the yes votes of Arlen Specter, Susan Collins and Olympia Snow. These three traitors will have to be persuaded to vote again as Republicans or be read out of the Party;  a Republican Party that, from now on, will have to forget phony “bipartisanship” and vote as a block, to do everything it can to offer truly Conservative alternatives, and to try to block Democratic legislation, if only to clearly establish the record of the  Democrat’s sole responsibility for the disastrous changes their legislation will cause.

Some centrist Democrats are already worried.  It will be our job to make them so worried about a total repudiation of the Democratic Party, and their defeat, that they themselves will slow and eventually stop this train wreck.

I don&#039;t have any great solutions, butI am sure all of the ingenious folks out there can come up with all sorts of methods of increasing this worry among more centrist Democrats, and of individually making sure that the cars of the Obama and Democratic constructed train that come their way can be &quot;derailed,&quot; but I would say that increasingly large and loud public demonstrations of protest and anger against Obama &amp; Co would be a good place to start</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a famous pamphlet written by Lenin famously asked, “What Is To Be Done”?</p>
<p>Obama &amp; Co. have not yet been in office for 100 days and they and Democratic majorities in the House and Senate have already pushed through revolutionary legislation and a bankrupting budget, effectively nationalized or seized corporations and dismissed a CEO—with more to come, set in motion a vast expansion of the money supply—hello, runaway inflation, are set to pass an energy “cap and trade” policy designed, in the words of Obama, to “bankrupt the coal industry,” which, it is estimated, will double and perhaps triple home electric bills, set in motion White House actions to seize control of both the Census and the ability to shut down parts of the Internet, started the formation of a massive civilian power base, consisting of a series of new or vastly expanded and well-funded “people’s organizations” combined with a massive re-inflation of the welfare class, and will shortly pass a GIVE act requiring “mandatory” public service, funded corrupt, leftist, vote-fixing ACORN with several hundreds of millions of dollars and given them a role in hiring Census enumerators, given the envious and angry among us a class of “enemies of the people” to hate, when Obama personally demonized AIG employees and the entrepreneurial class, displayed conspicuous weakness in foreign policy, just signed an agreement that will effectively place U.S. businesses under EU regulation, literally kowtowed to the Muslim king of Saudi Arabia and the Muslim world, apologized to the world in general for being American, and displayed a level of ignorance, arrogance, and rudeness towards our Allies worse that any I can think of;  and this is just the start.  </p>
<p>If Obama and the Democrats have their way, by the time the 2010 election rolls around traditional, conservative, capitalistic and free America will not be recognizable, and by the time the 2012 Presidential election rolls around, these drastic changes to America they will have put into place will not be easily uprooted or reversed or&#8211;as I am sure Obama intends&#8211;may be irreversible, and, by then, it may not be Obama the removable President, but Obama the un-removable Tyrant.</p>
<p>So, what is to be done?</p>
<p>Democrats and the Left have control of the Presidency and both Houses of Congress, the MSM and Academia.  The recent action by Democrats to use the “reconciliation” process (a maneuver which allowed them to vote this astronomical Budget through with less votes than they would normally need) to ram through their budget&#8211;with Republicans given exactly 20 minutes of debate time to present their alternative budget&#8211;shows that they are not going to let the Republican minority have any real chance of blocking, significantly slowing or modifying the “Obama/Marxist/Socialist Revolution.”  Because of way Democrats have played it&#8211;try as they and their captive MSM will try to deflect responsibility&#8211;the disastrous results of all these proposals for America will all be laid at the feet of Obama and the Democratic Party.</p>
<p>Three “Republican” Senator’s votes helped pass the Democrat’s entering wedge, H.R. 1—the $ 700 million dollar Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, the yes votes of Arlen Specter, Susan Collins and Olympia Snow. These three traitors will have to be persuaded to vote again as Republicans or be read out of the Party;  a Republican Party that, from now on, will have to forget phony “bipartisanship” and vote as a block, to do everything it can to offer truly Conservative alternatives, and to try to block Democratic legislation, if only to clearly establish the record of the  Democrat’s sole responsibility for the disastrous changes their legislation will cause.</p>
<p>Some centrist Democrats are already worried.  It will be our job to make them so worried about a total repudiation of the Democratic Party, and their defeat, that they themselves will slow and eventually stop this train wreck.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have any great solutions, butI am sure all of the ingenious folks out there can come up with all sorts of methods of increasing this worry among more centrist Democrats, and of individually making sure that the cars of the Obama and Democratic constructed train that come their way can be &#8220;derailed,&#8221; but I would say that increasingly large and loud public demonstrations of protest and anger against Obama &amp; Co would be a good place to start</p>
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		<title>By: kcom</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/04/05/obama-throws-america-under-the-bus/#comment-105914</link>
		<dc:creator>kcom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama didn&#039;t go to that church for 20 years for nothing.  I think its full name (which is hard to find on the brochures) is &quot;Trinity United...to throw America under the Bus&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama didn&#8217;t go to that church for 20 years for nothing.  I think its full name (which is hard to find on the brochures) is &#8220;Trinity United&#8230;to throw America under the Bus&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ozymandias</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/04/05/obama-throws-america-under-the-bus/#comment-105910</link>
		<dc:creator>Ozymandias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Logern,

Clearly you have no understanding of foreign policy or international relations if all you can argue for in favor of Obama is that he&#039;s not Bush. That&#039;s very weak.  

You still didn&#039;t answer my questions. I argue that your assertion that Bush used &quot;tough talk&quot; during his second term is ignorant of his actual policies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Logern,</p>
<p>Clearly you have no understanding of foreign policy or international relations if all you can argue for in favor of Obama is that he&#8217;s not Bush. That&#8217;s very weak.  </p>
<p>You still didn&#8217;t answer my questions. I argue that your assertion that Bush used &#8220;tough talk&#8221; during his second term is ignorant of his actual policies.</p>
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		<title>By: Artfldgr</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/04/05/obama-throws-america-under-the-bus/#comment-105905</link>
		<dc:creator>Artfldgr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, fred, we have to survive the next 4 years so that we can have another CFR transnaional socialist...    of course its interesting to hear people running towards a hope that does not exist when both sides of an issue are under control. 

there is no rescue next election...  as the same structure that created and allowed this will still be in place and will be a lot stronger. 

it only takes 18 months on average to change a free state into a chavez type land... and right now everyone is lining up for their monetary pay offs which is what secures the situation next time. 

they are smiling and singing happy while cleaning out the cubbord like in a silent movie... oh yes, we just moving this here for a while while we clean it. we is putting it in the back of the pick up truck so we dont have to bend over to pick it up. etc...

by the time the person being lied to decides to act upon what they knew from the first excuse, they are long gone.. 

why talk about the next election?  makes little sense to me as we are being restructured in a latch manner. by the time that election comes it wont mean anything...  (or do you think all that money to acorn will be used in a fair outcome? the fix is already in by the same people that put an inexperienced know nothing in place!!!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, fred, we have to survive the next 4 years so that we can have another CFR transnaional socialist&#8230;    of course its interesting to hear people running towards a hope that does not exist when both sides of an issue are under control. </p>
<p>there is no rescue next election&#8230;  as the same structure that created and allowed this will still be in place and will be a lot stronger. </p>
<p>it only takes 18 months on average to change a free state into a chavez type land&#8230; and right now everyone is lining up for their monetary pay offs which is what secures the situation next time. </p>
<p>they are smiling and singing happy while cleaning out the cubbord like in a silent movie&#8230; oh yes, we just moving this here for a while while we clean it. we is putting it in the back of the pick up truck so we dont have to bend over to pick it up. etc&#8230;</p>
<p>by the time the person being lied to decides to act upon what they knew from the first excuse, they are long gone.. </p>
<p>why talk about the next election?  makes little sense to me as we are being restructured in a latch manner. by the time that election comes it wont mean anything&#8230;  (or do you think all that money to acorn will be used in a fair outcome? the fix is already in by the same people that put an inexperienced know nothing in place!!!)</p>
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		<title>By: armchair pessimist</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/04/05/obama-throws-america-under-the-bus/#comment-105903</link>
		<dc:creator>armchair pessimist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As he himself said in his immortal work about himself, he learned how to con honkies. 

So true to form he told his pale-skinned audiences in Europe exactly what they wanted to hear.  If there is a pro-USA  scheme behind his games  then good for Obama, but I wouldn&#039;t bet so much as a penny that anything resembling patriotism is on his mind.  He wouldn&#039;t be the first tyrant to charm the world in order to more securely rule at home. Stalin, another exotic, was the master of masters here. 

On the other hand, at least on some abstract level the high-roller monsters like Stalin and Hitler liked their countries.  This guy doesn&#039;t; maybe that will make him less harmful.  We will all find out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As he himself said in his immortal work about himself, he learned how to con honkies. </p>
<p>So true to form he told his pale-skinned audiences in Europe exactly what they wanted to hear.  If there is a pro-USA  scheme behind his games  then good for Obama, but I wouldn&#8217;t bet so much as a penny that anything resembling patriotism is on his mind.  He wouldn&#8217;t be the first tyrant to charm the world in order to more securely rule at home. Stalin, another exotic, was the master of masters here. </p>
<p>On the other hand, at least on some abstract level the high-roller monsters like Stalin and Hitler liked their countries.  This guy doesn&#8217;t; maybe that will make him less harmful.  We will all find out.</p>
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		<title>By: Oblio</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/04/05/obama-throws-america-under-the-bus/#comment-105895</link>
		<dc:creator>Oblio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oz, expat is saying that it isn&#039;t all adulation for Obama in the European press.

I wouldn&#039;t waste time with Logern.  He is clearly out of his depth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oz, expat is saying that it isn&#8217;t all adulation for Obama in the European press.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t waste time with Logern.  He is clearly out of his depth.</p>
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		<title>By: Logern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Logern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 08:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(no thanks to spell check for Miramar)

Well, if I had to speculate, I&#039;d say Bush rendered himself impotent and expended all his political capital (what little he had) both here and abroad in the wrong war at the wrong time.

So is that his fault. YES.  And that started early in the first term.

Furthermore, whether Obama fails or succeeds, it&#039;s still likely that he&#039;ll be able to clear the low bar set by conservative minds of the last administration in foreign policy.

On the world stage, (and the reason I listed that stuff) plenty off tough talk came and went with a net result of what?  And the resume&#039; of conservtive foreign policy success of the last 8 years is what? And, as such, why should we listen to your advice?

If Obama isn&#039;t pursuing that failed policy, then he at least is potentially on a different track.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(no thanks to spell check for Miramar)</p>
<p>Well, if I had to speculate, I&#8217;d say Bush rendered himself impotent and expended all his political capital (what little he had) both here and abroad in the wrong war at the wrong time.</p>
<p>So is that his fault. YES.  And that started early in the first term.</p>
<p>Furthermore, whether Obama fails or succeeds, it&#8217;s still likely that he&#8217;ll be able to clear the low bar set by conservative minds of the last administration in foreign policy.</p>
<p>On the world stage, (and the reason I listed that stuff) plenty off tough talk came and went with a net result of what?  And the resume&#8217; of conservtive foreign policy success of the last 8 years is what? And, as such, why should we listen to your advice?</p>
<p>If Obama isn&#8217;t pursuing that failed policy, then he at least is potentially on a different track.</p>
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