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		<title>By: br549</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/05/05/roundup-on-chrysler-wheres-the-outrage/#comment-108679</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 09:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gcotharn said robbery. I have been thinking theft, as have many for quite some time. But no, it is indeed robbery. And in plain sight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gcotharn said robbery. I have been thinking theft, as have many for quite some time. But no, it is indeed robbery. And in plain sight.</p>
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		<title>By: Artfldgr</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/05/05/roundup-on-chrysler-wheres-the-outrage/#comment-108609</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 16:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;once it gets to the point the media can not cover for him it’s going to be a shocker to many.
&lt;/i&gt;

i would read the quote by Goebbles on this...  it says what will happen.   

everyone quotes the first part, and stops there. 
here is the whole thing

&lt;b&gt;      “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. 

The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. 

It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”&lt;/b&gt;

It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent

that is, exterminate them with extreme prejudice as enemies of the state. maybe call them right wing extremists, no one will check the creds and history of who is sacrificed to inform the rest of the extent of the change. 

      “The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over”


“Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.”

&quot;Faith moves mountains, but only knowledge moves them to the right place”


&lt;b&gt;“If the German people lay down their weapons, the Soviets, according to the agreement between Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin, would occupy all of East and Southeast Europe along with the greater part of the Reich. An iron curtain would fall over this enormous territory controlled by the Soviet Union, behind which nations would be slaughtered.”&lt;/b&gt;

he may have been an evil man, but was he right?


just as engles described the holocaust, and the word was made up to hide the dialogue, such quotes as this now, tend to not be so distant

&lt;i&gt;“If the day should ever come when we [the Nazis] must go, if some day we are compelled to leave the scene of history, we will slam the door so hard that the universe will shake and mankind will stand back in stupefaction..”&lt;/i&gt;


and to Obama&#039;s Populism...

&lt;b&gt;      “Whoever can conquer the street will one day conquer the state, for every form of power politics and any dictatorship-run state has its roots in the street.”&lt;/b&gt;

“If we are attacked we can only defend ourselves with guns not with butter.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>once it gets to the point the media can not cover for him it’s going to be a shocker to many.<br />
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<p>i would read the quote by Goebbles on this&#8230;  it says what will happen.   </p>
<p>everyone quotes the first part, and stops there.<br />
here is the whole thing</p>
<p><b>      “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. </p>
<p>The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. </p>
<p>It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”</b></p>
<p>It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent</p>
<p>that is, exterminate them with extreme prejudice as enemies of the state. maybe call them right wing extremists, no one will check the creds and history of who is sacrificed to inform the rest of the extent of the change. </p>
<p>      “The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly &#8211; it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over”</p>
<p>“Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.”</p>
<p>&#8220;Faith moves mountains, but only knowledge moves them to the right place”</p>
<p><b>“If the German people lay down their weapons, the Soviets, according to the agreement between Roosevelt, Churchill and Stalin, would occupy all of East and Southeast Europe along with the greater part of the Reich. An iron curtain would fall over this enormous territory controlled by the Soviet Union, behind which nations would be slaughtered.”</b></p>
<p>he may have been an evil man, but was he right?</p>
<p>just as engles described the holocaust, and the word was made up to hide the dialogue, such quotes as this now, tend to not be so distant</p>
<p><i>“If the day should ever come when we [the Nazis] must go, if some day we are compelled to leave the scene of history, we will slam the door so hard that the universe will shake and mankind will stand back in stupefaction..”</i></p>
<p>and to Obama&#8217;s Populism&#8230;</p>
<p><b>      “Whoever can conquer the street will one day conquer the state, for every form of power politics and any dictatorship-run state has its roots in the street.”</b></p>
<p>“If we are attacked we can only defend ourselves with guns not with butter.”</p>
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		<title>By: Artfldgr</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 16:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They accused bush of doing it, since they are planning it and they feared that the other side being like them would pre-empt them. 

doesnt hillaries tears mean something different now as i said then? she was no crying for us, she was crying that she was not the hero of the new state who created it and would be imortal rather than a flunky.  thats something that a megalomaniacle sociopath WOULD cry for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They accused bush of doing it, since they are planning it and they feared that the other side being like them would pre-empt them. </p>
<p>doesnt hillaries tears mean something different now as i said then? she was no crying for us, she was crying that she was not the hero of the new state who created it and would be imortal rather than a flunky.  thats something that a megalomaniacle sociopath WOULD cry for.</p>
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		<title>By: Artfldgr</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 15:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I have known people who were born and raised in Eastern Europe during the time of Communism (Poland, Bulgaria and the Czech Republic). &lt;/i&gt;

so can their children...

its the delusional that can twist reality in such a way that they share the same mass delusion that hides things in front of them. the collectivists do what they are told, even if that is being told what to see, beleive, and do. 


experience (empiricism) means nothing sicne they have redefined the perception of reality. through words and games they have changed the cable feed to a matrix kind of delusion. which is why that movie resonates. resonating movies sell big, even if those watching dont get why?  rocky horrors success is easy to understand if you know the story of teh frankfurt school, otherwise they dont know but assert they do. 

in this blog i have always reffered to expeience, a quick glance will show that the self confidence movements purpose was to get people confident in the dreams as being valid over empiricism, and to make equivalent what cant be. 

GIGO...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I have known people who were born and raised in Eastern Europe during the time of Communism (Poland, Bulgaria and the Czech Republic). </i></p>
<p>so can their children&#8230;</p>
<p>its the delusional that can twist reality in such a way that they share the same mass delusion that hides things in front of them. the collectivists do what they are told, even if that is being told what to see, beleive, and do. </p>
<p>experience (empiricism) means nothing sicne they have redefined the perception of reality. through words and games they have changed the cable feed to a matrix kind of delusion. which is why that movie resonates. resonating movies sell big, even if those watching dont get why?  rocky horrors success is easy to understand if you know the story of teh frankfurt school, otherwise they dont know but assert they do. </p>
<p>in this blog i have always reffered to expeience, a quick glance will show that the self confidence movements purpose was to get people confident in the dreams as being valid over empiricism, and to make equivalent what cant be. </p>
<p>GIGO&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Artfldgr</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 15:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rickl
back when i was laying out the iran war situation. i pointed out that the attempt to close the door would result in every burner turned on and so everything will fly forward IF we were prevented from iraq. 

back then it sounded crazy, now. well, now people want to read it.  just as back then when the financial guy predicted the burst bubble, everyone on fox laubhed or got on his case, later he still was working, and ihavent seen those laughing people again. 



civil war and that kind of thing is what they want. the minute it happens, we have accepted that the old system has no power to resolve issues within its framework...  we prove their false point (seemingly).  which is why they protest when debate would do. debate accepts that the system can be reformed over time, and so revutionary change is not needed since the basis of that point is that the prior pwer doesnt change and so has to be overthrown, usurped, replaced, etc.   

so, if we fall into the same behavior, then the other side of the equation has in behavior accepted that the system is defunct. 

failure to see the forces arrayed aroud you in a chess game means failure to win</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rickl<br />
back when i was laying out the iran war situation. i pointed out that the attempt to close the door would result in every burner turned on and so everything will fly forward IF we were prevented from iraq. </p>
<p>back then it sounded crazy, now. well, now people want to read it.  just as back then when the financial guy predicted the burst bubble, everyone on fox laubhed or got on his case, later he still was working, and ihavent seen those laughing people again. </p>
<p>civil war and that kind of thing is what they want. the minute it happens, we have accepted that the old system has no power to resolve issues within its framework&#8230;  we prove their false point (seemingly).  which is why they protest when debate would do. debate accepts that the system can be reformed over time, and so revutionary change is not needed since the basis of that point is that the prior pwer doesnt change and so has to be overthrown, usurped, replaced, etc.   </p>
<p>so, if we fall into the same behavior, then the other side of the equation has in behavior accepted that the system is defunct. </p>
<p>failure to see the forces arrayed aroud you in a chess game means failure to win</p>
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		<title>By: Occam's Beard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Occam's Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 01:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lots of talk of &lt;a href=&quot;http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2009/05/we-may-have-civil-war.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;civil war&lt;/a&gt; in the air. Surprisingly, if Barry is right, it may be blacks and white vs. liberals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lots of talk of <a href="http://jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com/2009/05/we-may-have-civil-war.html" rel="nofollow">civil war</a> in the air. Surprisingly, if Barry is right, it may be blacks and white vs. liberals.</p>
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		<title>By: rickl</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 01:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Artfldgr Says: 
May 6th, 2009 at 2:15 pm &amp; 2:27 pm

Which of your old posts are you referring to?  I would really like to read them.  I don&#039;t know whether or not I saw them the first time around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Artfldgr Says:<br />
May 6th, 2009 at 2:15 pm &amp; 2:27 pm</p>
<p>Which of your old posts are you referring to?  I would really like to read them.  I don&#8217;t know whether or not I saw them the first time around.</p>
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		<title>By: rickl</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 00:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>armchair pessimist Says: 
May 6th, 2009 at 9:43 am
&lt;blockquote cite=&quot;&quot;&gt; Rickl, Trimeg,

Could you describe the line-up in a coming civil war and what would be the basic issue of the conflict? In other words, what kind of America would you fight and die to (re?)establish?&lt;/blockquote&gt; 

The bottom-line divide will be between those of us who believe in the Constitutional Republic created by the Founders vs. the Marxists, their fellow travelers, and their useful idiots.  We have already fallen a long way from the original republic and are now very close to a pure democracy.  The Founders knew that democracy would lead to our ruin, and we can clearly see it happening now.

I can&#039;t predict how it will unfold, or even what will trigger it.  There are too many variables, and there&#039;s always a possibility of totally unexpected and unpredictable events.  There may not even be a single obvious flashpoint, like Lexington or Fort Sumter.  There may be a slow, gradual increase in violent incidents scattered here and there around the country between government and citizens, none of which would be seen as an obvious trigger.

I assume that Federal agencies like the FBI and ATF would side with the Federal government.  The big question mark to me is how the military and National Guard would respond.  Would they side with the established government or with the  Constitution?  I&#039;ve read opinions that argue for both possibilities.  I don&#039;t know.  It&#039;s also possible that the military could fragment, with some officers and units going one way and some the other.

Another uncertainty is how local police forces would react.  That may depend on where you live.  I don&#039;t know about my own local police.

Lest anyone get the wrong idea, I&#039;m not welcoming this or looking forward to it at all.  I live in the Philadelphia suburbs, so I could well find myself on the front lines or even behind enemy lines.  My own county voted for Obama by a large margin, and the next county closer to Philly voted for him by an overwhelming margin.  There are an awful lot of leftists and ignorant idiots around me.  If the SHTF, I will probably have a short life expectancy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>armchair pessimist Says:<br />
May 6th, 2009 at 9:43 am</p>
<blockquote cite=""><p> Rickl, Trimeg,</p>
<p>Could you describe the line-up in a coming civil war and what would be the basic issue of the conflict? In other words, what kind of America would you fight and die to (re?)establish?</p></blockquote>
<p>The bottom-line divide will be between those of us who believe in the Constitutional Republic created by the Founders vs. the Marxists, their fellow travelers, and their useful idiots.  We have already fallen a long way from the original republic and are now very close to a pure democracy.  The Founders knew that democracy would lead to our ruin, and we can clearly see it happening now.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t predict how it will unfold, or even what will trigger it.  There are too many variables, and there&#8217;s always a possibility of totally unexpected and unpredictable events.  There may not even be a single obvious flashpoint, like Lexington or Fort Sumter.  There may be a slow, gradual increase in violent incidents scattered here and there around the country between government and citizens, none of which would be seen as an obvious trigger.</p>
<p>I assume that Federal agencies like the FBI and ATF would side with the Federal government.  The big question mark to me is how the military and National Guard would respond.  Would they side with the established government or with the  Constitution?  I&#8217;ve read opinions that argue for both possibilities.  I don&#8217;t know.  It&#8217;s also possible that the military could fragment, with some officers and units going one way and some the other.</p>
<p>Another uncertainty is how local police forces would react.  That may depend on where you live.  I don&#8217;t know about my own local police.</p>
<p>Lest anyone get the wrong idea, I&#8217;m not welcoming this or looking forward to it at all.  I live in the Philadelphia suburbs, so I could well find myself on the front lines or even behind enemy lines.  My own county voted for Obama by a large margin, and the next county closer to Philly voted for him by an overwhelming margin.  There are an awful lot of leftists and ignorant idiots around me.  If the SHTF, I will probably have a short life expectancy.</p>
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		<title>By: stevesky</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 00:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Obama administration &amp; the Obamites have already taken the next step.  Every house will have its&#039; front door GPS coordinates taken in the next 90 days, under the cover of the &quot;census&quot; (not due until after 2010).

Why?

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&amp;pageId=97208</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Obama administration &amp; the Obamites have already taken the next step.  Every house will have its&#8217; front door GPS coordinates taken in the next 90 days, under the cover of the &#8220;census&#8221; (not due until after 2010).</p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&#038;pageId=97208" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&#038;pageId=97208</a></p>
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		<title>By: Artfldgr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artfldgr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 23:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>taxes are not to pay for things. 

taxes are the cattle prods of social engineering, or havent you noticed how they got us to accept that false premise?  

the rule of law has been broken, there are no limits anymore... we are past the event horizon 

the old system which would right this, will be way trampled by the time law based in the whim of judges without basis is through with them.  the speed difference becomes clear when you realize that this difference is the differnce between rule of law in a republic of the people, and rule of law in a feudal state with kings and lords.  the kings and lords can make judgements faster than the ones in the other system, and so can restructure everything faster. by the time the reasoned and well served process of law administered by the free gets done with one thing, they will have done 10 or 20 more things.  and as soon as the ones following the rule of law as servants realize that they get lords power to be fair as they see fit, they will not be working the slow track anymore. 

if you see a hole in this, please let me know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>taxes are not to pay for things. </p>
<p>taxes are the cattle prods of social engineering, or havent you noticed how they got us to accept that false premise?  </p>
<p>the rule of law has been broken, there are no limits anymore&#8230; we are past the event horizon </p>
<p>the old system which would right this, will be way trampled by the time law based in the whim of judges without basis is through with them.  the speed difference becomes clear when you realize that this difference is the differnce between rule of law in a republic of the people, and rule of law in a feudal state with kings and lords.  the kings and lords can make judgements faster than the ones in the other system, and so can restructure everything faster. by the time the reasoned and well served process of law administered by the free gets done with one thing, they will have done 10 or 20 more things.  and as soon as the ones following the rule of law as servants realize that they get lords power to be fair as they see fit, they will not be working the slow track anymore. </p>
<p>if you see a hole in this, please let me know.</p>
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