the military has been filtering recruits and others by quizzing them on things and promoting those with the right answers. so i have no idea which way it would go since it would go one way on the command control side and another way on the tiny lone guy side.

as far as iran, they know that any new regime will shake em up, and the old one will reward them for standing true. they will hold out for as long as seems prudent.

unless someone does something about night death squads and such, it will not continue for too much longer.

i have no idea whether our or other agencies can help or do anything that way given how they seem to be neutered.

For example, in our country if we ever had a rebellion against the Marxists now ruling our country the outcome would be decided by the military and who the bulk of it chose to throw in its lot with.

This is why our Founders were so wise. They knew that liberty is obtained at the point of a gun and sword. It is very rare that you can have a successful rebellion without arms and without the military deciding to go against the rulers. Why do you think the Roman emperors would pay off the army? They knew who held the real power.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2009/jun/19/iran-clergy-mousavi-khamenei

“Clerical opposition to Ahmedinejad already exists, perhaps most prominently from senior Ayatollahs Sanei and Safi-Golpayegani. Another ayatollah, Montazeri, has said: “no one in their right mind can believe” the election results; Montazeri was designated to succeed Ayatollah Khomeini as Supreme Leader – that is until he stepped out of line, and criticised the republic’s human rights abuses back in 1988.”

So there’s my take on Iran. If no. 3 changes, as happened in Romania, when the Army came over to the people’s side against the Securitate, then all bets are off. I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t think I am.

With the above always being kept firmly in mind, the next question is: should the United States encourage and support democracy and fair elections in Iran?

Absolutely.

We should encourage adoption of our democratic principles and the growth of liberty wherever and whenever we can. Talk is cheap—as Obama should well know, but in this instance, the President should both very pointedly and publicly make statements that unmistakably and unequivocally support the demonstrators and their calls for new, fair elections. But, as in the case of the elections in the “Palestinian territories” which Hamas won, we should not be deluded as to the likely character of those in Iran who might win more honest elections there.

On a more realpolitik level, since Iran is such a danger to the Middle East, Israel, the United States and, indeed, to the whole world, we should at the same time use our clandestine resources to aid the protestors in the hope of overthrowing the current regime.

It must be understood, however, that even if the current regime is overthrown and Mousavi or some other “reformist” candidate winds up on top, this new leader will be an Islamic “reformist”; we should not naively expect our brand of Liberalism, and sunshine, little bunnies , rainbows and lollipops to break out all over Iran, or expect that Iran will stop its drive for nuclear weapons, its encouragement of terrorism, drop its intention to annihilate Israel and the Jews, or halt its attempts to fight the “Great Satan” i.e. the U.S.

Me and the president are in opposite camps. The question remains: will he shine thru? Will Joe, Nancy, Bill and Hillary oppose him?

Interesting times. Everybody is indirectly challenged by Obama’s cluelessness or radical agenda. The American people must choose a side. The Persian people also. Everybody is on his/her own now – and yet the connexion is also very strong. It will be Life or destruction? A Persian revolution at this juncture can only turn out to become the return of life, nothing short of that.

Obama is supposed to bring freedom thanks to his words. It’s now that he must choose which president he wants to emulate? Reagan or Carter? The iranian people are more than ready.

Iran must find her own bunch of enlightened founding fathers. Her constitution ready. We will submit it to the iranian people, thank you internet. They can vote on line and then we’ll send the cops arrest the thugs in religious garb and bolchevic ramnling.

We want a velvet revolution this time (ref. to “Velvet Underground”) against the possibility of one inspired by the ideology of the Weather Underground. Che, Chavez, castro, Michel Moores like.

Iran has been hijacked by pagan thugs 1400 years ago and no amount of sufism has been able to give Islam a better reputation or its followers a better education and a lighter heart.

The president must solve his own war: What will solve and save the world from darkness and hate: The Jesus way or the Mohamad route? Christianity or Islam?

Even a Arab has to ask himself if he will follow the path of the Jews and challenge those who worship a cult or those who know God?

The God described in the Koran is a fraud. He had the audacity to take His throne and bring hate, lies and horror each time power has been given to him.

Every single individual must answer the call, accept the challenge and choose Freedom or Hell for all. Are we as God’s apprentices, ready to prove we are worthy of Him and worthy of paradise in Paradise?

We want a peaceful revolution and a peaceful world, free from mafiosi politicians. If Russians build good reactors, when Iran will become worthy of her heritage and be run by West and Jew loving government, Russians can continue provide the technology. We believe in nuclear power as source of sustainable green energy.

I have so many ideas and tips. Sorry if I don’t make too much effort in my writing. I have one advice for the president: Ask Lou Reed what he would do to make the best of it.
The West should promise one thing to the Mullahs and gangsters who control the world. You can step down peacefully. We promise, we wont cut your head. We will isolate you in some paradise in the Caribbean. Gantanamo was not such a bad idea after all. Without the waterboarding and the guards. But nobody need to waterboard these people. We have the truth already.

Few in the crowd were disappointed with the cleric’s words. “Death to America!” the people chanted repeatedly, interrupting Khamenei’s speech. “Death to Israel.”

Noticeably absent Friday was Moussavi, the man who had sparked Iran’s unrest by calling for a recount of the votes. Absent, too, were Moussavi’s supporters, who did not take to the streets to protest as they had done in previous days. There were no signs and placards on the streets. Or people clamoring for change.

“Web Support Pours Out For Iran Protestors”

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g8YUejJ0FPdDMOUsC6K0bW35RHYwD98U14G80