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		<title>By: Vieux Charles</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/06/23/yes-obamas-president-and-youre-not/#comment-113868</link>
		<dc:creator>Vieux Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way he complains about what he&#039;s &quot;inherited&quot; you&#039;d think he&#039;d been dragged into the oval office kicking and screaming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way he complains about what he&#8217;s &#8220;inherited&#8221; you&#8217;d think he&#8217;d been dragged into the oval office kicking and screaming.</p>
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		<title>By: Amused Cynic &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Obama&#8217;s first semi-tough press conference&#8230;.</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/06/23/yes-obamas-president-and-youre-not/#comment-113770</link>
		<dc:creator>Amused Cynic &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Obama&#8217;s first semi-tough press conference&#8230;.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with Neo-neocon on this, there is something very juvenile, petulant, and disturbing about this &#8220;I won&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] with Neo-neocon on this, there is something very juvenile, petulant, and disturbing about this &#8220;I won&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Scottie</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/06/23/yes-obamas-president-and-youre-not/#comment-113765</link>
		<dc:creator>Scottie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,

Let me lay out for you why Obonga&#039;s constant reminders are so annoying in a way that even you can understand.

Obonga&#039;s constant reminders of his presidency status are very similar to:

- the constant hints some wealthy types drop while trying to make sure everyone knows they&#039;re wealthy.

OR

- the constant reminders the nerdy office manager makes so everyone knows he&#039;s in charge.

Both tend to alienate their audience - which is what Obonga is doing...

But please, by all means let him keep it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>Let me lay out for you why Obonga&#8217;s constant reminders are so annoying in a way that even you can understand.</p>
<p>Obonga&#8217;s constant reminders of his presidency status are very similar to:</p>
<p>- the constant hints some wealthy types drop while trying to make sure everyone knows they&#8217;re wealthy.</p>
<p>OR</p>
<p>- the constant reminders the nerdy office manager makes so everyone knows he&#8217;s in charge.</p>
<p>Both tend to alienate their audience &#8211; which is what Obonga is doing&#8230;</p>
<p>But please, by all means let him keep it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Scottie</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/06/23/yes-obamas-president-and-youre-not/#comment-113764</link>
		<dc:creator>Scottie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Occam,

Thanks for the rebuttal to Matt - you were far more succinct than I tend to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Occam,</p>
<p>Thanks for the rebuttal to Matt &#8211; you were far more succinct than I tend to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Occam's Beard</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/06/23/yes-obamas-president-and-youre-not/#comment-113741</link>
		<dc:creator>Occam's Beard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 04:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The economy Bush inherited was actually pretty good coming off of the Clinton’s years.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Boy, the stock market plunged in December 2000 as the dot.com bubble burst, and then 9/11 hit. But thanks for the revisionist history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The economy Bush inherited was actually pretty good coming off of the Clinton’s years.</p></blockquote>
<p>Boy, the stock market plunged in December 2000 as the dot.com bubble burst, and then 9/11 hit. But thanks for the revisionist history.</p>
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		<title>By: Gringo</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/06/23/yes-obamas-president-and-youre-not/#comment-113733</link>
		<dc:creator>Gringo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, I and others want to know  why cannot President Obama  give a point-by-point refutation of McCain&#039;s statement instead of reverting to the call to authority, &quot;I am the President.&quot;

Or for that matter, why his press secretary cannot do so.

That is the issue. Perhaps it is because President Obama has not shown himself to speak well in unscripted situations. I and others suspect that is the reason why President Obama has reverted so often to saying &quot;I am the President.&quot; Shuts people up, and you don&#039;t have to explain yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, I and others want to know  why cannot President Obama  give a point-by-point refutation of McCain&#8217;s statement instead of reverting to the call to authority, &#8220;I am the President.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or for that matter, why his press secretary cannot do so.</p>
<p>That is the issue. Perhaps it is because President Obama has not shown himself to speak well in unscripted situations. I and others suspect that is the reason why President Obama has reverted so often to saying &#8220;I am the President.&#8221; Shuts people up, and you don&#8217;t have to explain yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: E</title>
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		<dc:creator>E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt writes: 

I’m not sure why you don’t accept Obama as president or get bent out of shape when he mentions it. Pretty small potatoes - don’t you think?

Matt, where did you read in any of neo&#039;s posts that she doesn&#039;t accept Obama as president? That&#039;s a serious charge - you need to cite it, if you can.

The answer is that you can&#039;t. The citation doesn&#039;t exist, because neo never said anything of the kind. Your post is yet another example of sloppy argumentation and rhetorical base-stealing in order to advance a proposition that has no basis in fact.

We accept Obama as our president. We also expect the American president to have more self-assurance , and not to need to keep yammering about how he won, or he&#039;s the only president, etc. It sounds desperate and insecure and lame. Not what we need from our president during these dire times.

I for one don&#039;t hate Obama. But I sure am disappointed in him. American deserves better than a Chicago-rules hack with no executive experience, no knowledge of history or culture, a mysterious academic record, and a tendency to bleat about being the only president. As if we&#039;ve ever had more than one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt writes: </p>
<p>I’m not sure why you don’t accept Obama as president or get bent out of shape when he mentions it. Pretty small potatoes &#8211; don’t you think?</p>
<p>Matt, where did you read in any of neo&#8217;s posts that she doesn&#8217;t accept Obama as president? That&#8217;s a serious charge &#8211; you need to cite it, if you can.</p>
<p>The answer is that you can&#8217;t. The citation doesn&#8217;t exist, because neo never said anything of the kind. Your post is yet another example of sloppy argumentation and rhetorical base-stealing in order to advance a proposition that has no basis in fact.</p>
<p>We accept Obama as our president. We also expect the American president to have more self-assurance , and not to need to keep yammering about how he won, or he&#8217;s the only president, etc. It sounds desperate and insecure and lame. Not what we need from our president during these dire times.</p>
<p>I for one don&#8217;t hate Obama. But I sure am disappointed in him. American deserves better than a Chicago-rules hack with no executive experience, no knowledge of history or culture, a mysterious academic record, and a tendency to bleat about being the only president. As if we&#8217;ve ever had more than one.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 01:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scottie
The economy Bush inherited was actually pretty good coming off of the Clinton&#039;s years. The economy now is bad but not because of Obama. In fact it is not because of any one political party at this point. It&#039;s been a long time coming and there is plenty of blame to go around. But I would blame other factors before politicians.
Anyway if you think the Republicans can gain ground in 2010 or 2012 you need some leaders and a positive image. Have you seen the Republican approval numbers lately? Pretty pathetic.

neo-neocon
I&#039;m not sure why you don&#039;t accept Obama as president or get bent out of shape when he mentions it. Pretty small potatoes - don&#039;t you think?
But too you are including only a part of the text: 

&quot;I think John McCain has genuine passion about many of these international issues, and I think that all of us share a belief that we want justice to prevail. But only I’m the President of the United States, and I’ve got responsibilities in making certain that we are continually advancing our national security interests and that we are not used as a tool to be exploited by other countries.&quot;

Anyone who reads this will note that the emphasis is on &#039;advancing our national interest.&#039; Which is rather important - right? I know you hate Obama but come on...let&#039;s not yank things out of context to advance your political causes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scottie<br />
The economy Bush inherited was actually pretty good coming off of the Clinton&#8217;s years. The economy now is bad but not because of Obama. In fact it is not because of any one political party at this point. It&#8217;s been a long time coming and there is plenty of blame to go around. But I would blame other factors before politicians.<br />
Anyway if you think the Republicans can gain ground in 2010 or 2012 you need some leaders and a positive image. Have you seen the Republican approval numbers lately? Pretty pathetic.</p>
<p>neo-neocon<br />
I&#8217;m not sure why you don&#8217;t accept Obama as president or get bent out of shape when he mentions it. Pretty small potatoes &#8211; don&#8217;t you think?<br />
But too you are including only a part of the text: </p>
<p>&#8220;I think John McCain has genuine passion about many of these international issues, and I think that all of us share a belief that we want justice to prevail. But only I’m the President of the United States, and I’ve got responsibilities in making certain that we are continually advancing our national security interests and that we are not used as a tool to be exploited by other countries.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyone who reads this will note that the emphasis is on &#8216;advancing our national interest.&#8217; Which is rather important &#8211; right? I know you hate Obama but come on&#8230;let&#8217;s not yank things out of context to advance your political causes.</p>
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		<title>By: Oblio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oblio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:34:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally OT...

waltj meant Edward IV, and there is contemporary evidence to support the story that his father was a captain of archers in Rouen by the name of Bleybourgne.  The BBC (or maybe ITV) had a program about it 5 or 6 years ago.  It traced the surviving Plantagenet heirs to a small town in the Australian outback.  These were the descendents of George, Duke of Clarence, who was drown&#039;d in a butt of Malmesy.

If Edward was illegitimate, that had no impact on Richard&#039;s claims.  The Ricardians would argue that the illegitimacy of Edward and his surviving sons --the Princes in the Tower--diminishes Richard&#039;s motive to do them in.  A hard core Ricardian would argue that in fact the Princes never died in the Tower.

Fascinating stuff...Josephine Tey thought the the story of Richard III was a prime example of how a lie repeated often enough becomes accepted as the truth.

Sorry for the interruption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally OT&#8230;</p>
<p>waltj meant Edward IV, and there is contemporary evidence to support the story that his father was a captain of archers in Rouen by the name of Bleybourgne.  The BBC (or maybe ITV) had a program about it 5 or 6 years ago.  It traced the surviving Plantagenet heirs to a small town in the Australian outback.  These were the descendents of George, Duke of Clarence, who was drown&#8217;d in a butt of Malmesy.</p>
<p>If Edward was illegitimate, that had no impact on Richard&#8217;s claims.  The Ricardians would argue that the illegitimacy of Edward and his surviving sons &#8211;the Princes in the Tower&#8211;diminishes Richard&#8217;s motive to do them in.  A hard core Ricardian would argue that in fact the Princes never died in the Tower.</p>
<p>Fascinating stuff&#8230;Josephine Tey thought the the story of Richard III was a prime example of how a lie repeated often enough becomes accepted as the truth.</p>
<p>Sorry for the interruption.</p>
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		<title>By: waltj</title>
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		<dc:creator>waltj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think you may have another Edward in mind...&quot;

I may.  I was going from memory, and as it was getting late over here on my side of the world, I didn&#039;t feel like checking.  I will tonight.  But I do remember it was one of the Edwards who kept sticking in phrases like &quot;...blah blah blah, the King and legitimate son blah blah blah...&quot; in official records of the time.  If there were no doubts, such phrases would have been superfluous.  

Methinks the O-man harbors similar uncertainties about his political legitimacy.  As if he needs to keep reminding himself about who the boss is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think you may have another Edward in mind&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I may.  I was going from memory, and as it was getting late over here on my side of the world, I didn&#8217;t feel like checking.  I will tonight.  But I do remember it was one of the Edwards who kept sticking in phrases like &#8220;&#8230;blah blah blah, the King and legitimate son blah blah blah&#8230;&#8221; in official records of the time.  If there were no doubts, such phrases would have been superfluous.  </p>
<p>Methinks the O-man harbors similar uncertainties about his political legitimacy.  As if he needs to keep reminding himself about who the boss is.</p>
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