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		<title>By: Mission viejo Water Damage</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/02/me-and-obama-changing-minds-part-i/#comment-213971</link>
		<dc:creator>Mission viejo Water Damage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 02:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your great blog is merely worth a read if anyone results in it. Im lucky used to do because now Ive got an entirely new view of this kind of. I didnt realise this issue was so important therefore universal. You definitely indicated in perspective for me personally, thanks for the very good info.</description>
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		<title>By: smrstrauss</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/02/me-and-obama-changing-minds-part-i/#comment-116324</link>
		<dc:creator>smrstrauss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 01:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;he may well have lost his American citizenship when Lolo Soetoro acknowledged him as his son, which he would have had to do in order to be able to enroll Obama, now named Barry Soetoro, in public schools in predominantly Muslim Indonesia.&#039;

Both the US government and the Indonesia government have now said that Obama was never an Indonesian citizen. http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/strunk-answer.pdf

and the State Department also said in the same legal filing that Obama was never adopted by Soetoro.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;he may well have lost his American citizenship when Lolo Soetoro acknowledged him as his son, which he would have had to do in order to be able to enroll Obama, now named Barry Soetoro, in public schools in predominantly Muslim Indonesia.&#8217;</p>
<p>Both the US government and the Indonesia government have now said that Obama was never an Indonesian citizen. <a href="http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/strunk-answer.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/strunk-answer.pdf</a></p>
<p>and the State Department also said in the same legal filing that Obama was never adopted by Soetoro.</p>
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		<title>By: smrstrauss</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/02/me-and-obama-changing-minds-part-i/#comment-116322</link>
		<dc:creator>smrstrauss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 01:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &#039;All this might be readily believed except for the fact that Obama’s maternal grandmother told all and sundry before the inauguration—until Obama’s people shut her up, that she and one of Obama’s half-sisters and one half-brother, who .&quot;

A small point to start. The Kenya side of the family is the paternal side, and the grandmother you are referring to is the paternal grandmother. Neither she nor any other relative ever said that he was born in Kenya. The paternal grandmother actually said that he was born in Hawaii. 

Listen to the complete tape (http://www.obamacrimes.info/Telephone_Interview_with_Sarah_Hussein_Obama_10-16-08.mp3) Be sure to listen for at least five minutes and 15 seconds until after the answer to the question &quot;Wherabouts was he born?&quot; The answer was &quot;America, Hawaii.&quot;

If it is too difficult to listen to the complete tape, here is a transcript. http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/obamatranscriptlulu109.pdf

Again, look for the answer to the question Whereabouts was he born?


Re: &quot;also affirmed that they were present, were in the delivery room in a Mombassa, Kenya hospital, where they witnessed Obama’s birth, a birth confirmed by hospital records.&quot;

No they did not say that, and there are no records in Mombassa or anywhere else that shows that Obama was born in Kenya or that his mother ever traveled to Kenya (She would have had to get a Yellow Fever shot to do it, and that is bad during pregnancy).

In Hawaii, however, there is an official birth certificate showing that Obama was born in Hawaii, and two officials of the state Department of Health looked into the file and stated that they saw an original birth certificate in the file. That must be a Hawaii birth certificate because in 1961 Hawaii did not allow foreign birth certificates to be filed in birth files.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8216;All this might be readily believed except for the fact that Obama’s maternal grandmother told all and sundry before the inauguration—until Obama’s people shut her up, that she and one of Obama’s half-sisters and one half-brother, who .&#8221;</p>
<p>A small point to start. The Kenya side of the family is the paternal side, and the grandmother you are referring to is the paternal grandmother. Neither she nor any other relative ever said that he was born in Kenya. The paternal grandmother actually said that he was born in Hawaii. </p>
<p>Listen to the complete tape (<a href="http://www.obamacrimes.info/Telephone_Interview_with_Sarah_Hussein_Obama_10-16-08.mp3" rel="nofollow">http://www.obamacrimes.info/Telephone_Interview_with_Sarah_Hussein_Obama_10-16-08.mp3</a>) Be sure to listen for at least five minutes and 15 seconds until after the answer to the question &#8220;Wherabouts was he born?&#8221; The answer was &#8220;America, Hawaii.&#8221;</p>
<p>If it is too difficult to listen to the complete tape, here is a transcript. <a href="http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/obamatranscriptlulu109.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/obamatranscriptlulu109.pdf</a></p>
<p>Again, look for the answer to the question Whereabouts was he born?</p>
<p>Re: &#8220;also affirmed that they were present, were in the delivery room in a Mombassa, Kenya hospital, where they witnessed Obama’s birth, a birth confirmed by hospital records.&#8221;</p>
<p>No they did not say that, and there are no records in Mombassa or anywhere else that shows that Obama was born in Kenya or that his mother ever traveled to Kenya (She would have had to get a Yellow Fever shot to do it, and that is bad during pregnancy).</p>
<p>In Hawaii, however, there is an official birth certificate showing that Obama was born in Hawaii, and two officials of the state Department of Health looked into the file and stated that they saw an original birth certificate in the file. That must be a Hawaii birth certificate because in 1961 Hawaii did not allow foreign birth certificates to be filed in birth files.</p>
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		<title>By: Amused Cynic &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ID4, in the era of Obama&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/02/me-and-obama-changing-minds-part-i/#comment-115124</link>
		<dc:creator>Amused Cynic &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ID4, in the era of Obama&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 18:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] two-part piece on the case against the Trojan Horse candidate now in the White House. Part One is here, Part Two, here. Read it all, and follow the links. Then talk to some pod-people that you know in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] two-part piece on the case against the Trojan Horse candidate now in the White House. Part One is here, Part Two, here. Read it all, and follow the links. Then talk to some pod-people that you know in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mezzrow</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/02/me-and-obama-changing-minds-part-i/#comment-115105</link>
		<dc:creator>mezzrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:36:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>neo, I just plowed through both of your posts, and your thoughts parallel mine in so many ways.  I still find the deeper implications of your thinking difficult to accept, however.  I really have too deep an &quot;it can&#039;t happen here&quot; persona ingrained in my own makeup, I guess.

I really don&#039;t listen to anything that the President says, but I pay close attention to what he does.  I&#039;ve been happy about the positioning re Guantanamo (I expected them to just cut these thugs loose, actually) and our responsibilities in Iraq/Afghanistan, compared to what I had expected.  However, there are too many tells, and you&#039;ve hit on many of them.  The clearest was the Honduras situation.  Almost as if the primary goal is to stay in power a long time and not let the events of the rest of the world get in the way of that.  Leverage the organs of the state to provide the maximum long term benefit to the base, and to hell with the rest.  Hmmm...  More cynical than even I had imagined.  Very much a &quot;big man&quot; approach, with the purpose of making more people dependent on the state for their daily bread, which can then be withheld for asking the wrong kinds of questions.  Keep a close eye on the second and twenty-second amendments to the Constitution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>neo, I just plowed through both of your posts, and your thoughts parallel mine in so many ways.  I still find the deeper implications of your thinking difficult to accept, however.  I really have too deep an &#8220;it can&#8217;t happen here&#8221; persona ingrained in my own makeup, I guess.</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t listen to anything that the President says, but I pay close attention to what he does.  I&#8217;ve been happy about the positioning re Guantanamo (I expected them to just cut these thugs loose, actually) and our responsibilities in Iraq/Afghanistan, compared to what I had expected.  However, there are too many tells, and you&#8217;ve hit on many of them.  The clearest was the Honduras situation.  Almost as if the primary goal is to stay in power a long time and not let the events of the rest of the world get in the way of that.  Leverage the organs of the state to provide the maximum long term benefit to the base, and to hell with the rest.  Hmmm&#8230;  More cynical than even I had imagined.  Very much a &#8220;big man&#8221; approach, with the purpose of making more people dependent on the state for their daily bread, which can then be withheld for asking the wrong kinds of questions.  Keep a close eye on the second and twenty-second amendments to the Constitution.</p>
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		<title>By: Pragmatist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pragmatist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 05:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some may ask how I know about Indonesia well apart from having lived there for about 10 years I have had two Indonesian wives both Muslim and in the intervening period girlfriends some of whom were Indonesian Christians . So I know both sides of the story and have indeed witnessed many Christian/Muslim  riots ( although they try to pretend these are just ethnic disputes not religious its just coincidental one side is Christian and the other Muslim LOL) on the streets in Jakarta on much more flimsy excuses than children being brainwashed by Muslims.  I also know the school system having two children educated there and knowing some of the many foreign teachers who teach there. So when I tell you that Obambi MUST have been a practicing Muslim while he was in Indonesia I know what I am talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some may ask how I know about Indonesia well apart from having lived there for about 10 years I have had two Indonesian wives both Muslim and in the intervening period girlfriends some of whom were Indonesian Christians . So I know both sides of the story and have indeed witnessed many Christian/Muslim  riots ( although they try to pretend these are just ethnic disputes not religious its just coincidental one side is Christian and the other Muslim LOL) on the streets in Jakarta on much more flimsy excuses than children being brainwashed by Muslims.  I also know the school system having two children educated there and knowing some of the many foreign teachers who teach there. So when I tell you that Obambi MUST have been a practicing Muslim while he was in Indonesia I know what I am talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Pragmatist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pragmatist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 05:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about 
Obambi LIED and Democracy DIED

That has a nice ring to it and whats more its TRUE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about<br />
Obambi LIED and Democracy DIED</p>
<p>That has a nice ring to it and whats more its TRUE.</p>
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		<title>By: neo-neocon</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/02/me-and-obama-changing-minds-part-i/#comment-114969</link>
		<dc:creator>neo-neocon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 20:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>grackle: go to &lt;a href=&quot;http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/03/me-and-obama-changing-minds-part-ii/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Part II&lt;/a&gt; and see why I don&#039;t think slogans will do it.  At least, not yet, and maybe never.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>grackle: go to <a href="http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/03/me-and-obama-changing-minds-part-ii/" rel="nofollow">Part II</a> and see why I don&#8217;t think slogans will do it.  At least, not yet, and maybe never.</p>
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		<title>By: grackle</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/02/me-and-obama-changing-minds-part-i/#comment-114965</link>
		<dc:creator>grackle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Democrats are idiots. America suffers.&lt;/i&gt;

Close but not quite there in conception. 

How about this: &lt;i&gt;Obama is a fool and the Mullahs’ tool.&lt;/i&gt;

Keep it directed at Obama personally, otherwise you make Democrats who might be inclined to turn on Obama too defensive to get the message. And its got to rhyme and have good meter. Example: &lt;i&gt;Tippecanoe and Tyler too.&lt;/i&gt; Good. But try saying, &lt;i&gt;Tyler and Tippecanoe too.&lt;/i&gt; See? Meter makes a big difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Democrats are idiots. America suffers.</i></p>
<p>Close but not quite there in conception. </p>
<p>How about this: <i>Obama is a fool and the Mullahs’ tool.</i></p>
<p>Keep it directed at Obama personally, otherwise you make Democrats who might be inclined to turn on Obama too defensive to get the message. And its got to rhyme and have good meter. Example: <i>Tippecanoe and Tyler too.</i> Good. But try saying, <i>Tyler and Tippecanoe too.</i> See? Meter makes a big difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Baklava</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/02/me-and-obama-changing-minds-part-i/#comment-114964</link>
		<dc:creator>Baklava</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slogans:

Democrats are idiots. America suffers.

Democrats don&#039;t know squat. 

Friends don&#039;t let friends vote Democrat.

Democrats aren&#039;t interested in prosperity. Vote Republican.

Democrats Bankrupt

Democrats - Subsidizing personal irresponsibility

Democrats mean a weaker nation

Democrats bad. Strong nation good.

Democrats. Illogical.

Democrats are for fascism, socialism, anything big governmentism

Democrats Lie People Die

Of course there are the Ben Nelson&#039;s, Zell Miller&#039;s, Moynihan&#039;s, Lieberman&#039;s, etc..... 

But it isn&#039;t about Obama. It is about the policies that Democrats including Obama make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slogans:</p>
<p>Democrats are idiots. America suffers.</p>
<p>Democrats don&#8217;t know squat. </p>
<p>Friends don&#8217;t let friends vote Democrat.</p>
<p>Democrats aren&#8217;t interested in prosperity. Vote Republican.</p>
<p>Democrats Bankrupt</p>
<p>Democrats &#8211; Subsidizing personal irresponsibility</p>
<p>Democrats mean a weaker nation</p>
<p>Democrats bad. Strong nation good.</p>
<p>Democrats. Illogical.</p>
<p>Democrats are for fascism, socialism, anything big governmentism</p>
<p>Democrats Lie People Die</p>
<p>Of course there are the Ben Nelson&#8217;s, Zell Miller&#8217;s, Moynihan&#8217;s, Lieberman&#8217;s, etc&#8230;.. </p>
<p>But it isn&#8217;t about Obama. It is about the policies that Democrats including Obama make.</p>
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