Comments on: Obama still working for Zeleya’s return http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obama-still-working-for-zeleyas-return/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 22:55:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Comparativa Portatiles http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obama-still-working-for-zeleyas-return/#comment-197520 Comparativa Portatiles Wed, 03 Nov 2010 20:34:30 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obama-still-working-for-zeleyas-return/#comment-197520 Pienso igual que tú. Tendré en cuenta tu blog! Pienso igual que tú. Tendré en cuenta tu blog!

]]> By: Foxfier http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obama-still-working-for-zeleyas-return/#comment-117578 Foxfier Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:46:53 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obama-still-working-for-zeleyas-return/#comment-117578 Gray - bingo. I wonder if he realizes exactly how *many* folks remember that oath-- then I think of that report classing vets as possible terrorists, and it really doesn't help at all. Gray -
bingo.
I wonder if he realizes exactly how *many* folks remember that oath– then I think of that report classing vets as possible terrorists, and it really doesn’t help at all.

]]> By: Highlander http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obama-still-working-for-zeleyas-return/#comment-117556 Highlander Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:04:15 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obama-still-working-for-zeleyas-return/#comment-117556 "... who’s not above going the Chavez/Zelaya extra-constitutional route himself if he needs to." There's an appropriate quote from F.A. Hayek's "The Road to Serfdom", which I have on my cubicle wall for all my liberal co-workers to see. It reads: "Just as the democratic statesman who sets out to plan economic life will soon be confronted with the alternative of either assuming dictatorial powers or abandoning his plans, so the totalitarian dictator would soon have to choose between disregard of ordinary morals and failure." How far is Obama willing to go? More importantly, how far are we willing to let him go? “… who’s not above going the Chavez/Zelaya extra-constitutional route himself if he needs to.”

There’s an appropriate quote from F.A. Hayek’s “The Road to Serfdom”, which I have on my cubicle wall for all my liberal co-workers to see. It reads:

“Just as the democratic statesman who sets out to plan economic life will soon be confronted with the alternative of either assuming dictatorial powers or abandoning his plans, so the totalitarian dictator would soon have to choose between disregard of ordinary morals and failure.”

How far is Obama willing to go? More importantly, how far are we willing to let him go?

]]> By: Perfected democrat http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obama-still-working-for-zeleyas-return/#comment-117526 Perfected democrat Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:18:19 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obama-still-working-for-zeleyas-return/#comment-117526 "That’s what I see, and I feel the need to get the word out." Thank-you, that's why I follow your blog. Your posts, as well as the commenters, have been getting tougher, and better. It's not all for naught you know, Obungler's poll no's are declining, keep up the great work! “That’s what I see, and I feel the need to get the word out.”

Thank-you, that’s why I follow your blog. Your posts, as well as the commenters, have been getting tougher, and better. It’s not all for naught you know, Obungler’s poll no’s are declining, keep up the great work!

]]> By: Gray http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obama-still-working-for-zeleyas-return/#comment-117509 Gray Wed, 22 Jul 2009 04:29:31 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obama-still-working-for-zeleyas-return/#comment-117509 <i>....Obama is a smooth-talking hypocrite who is attempting to sell the American public a socialist bill of goods, and who’s not above going the Chavez/Zelaya extra-constitutional route himself if he needs to.</i> Oh, my.... That would go badly, I think. There are a lot of us out here who swore to uphold "The Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic". I don't think you can go "extra-constitutional" without becoming an enemy of The Constitution. "How many Armored Divisions does ACORN have?" ….Obama is a smooth-talking hypocrite who is attempting to sell the American public a socialist bill of goods, and who’s not above going the Chavez/Zelaya extra-constitutional route himself if he needs to.

Oh, my…. That would go badly, I think. There are a lot of us out here who swore to uphold “The Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic”.

I don’t think you can go “extra-constitutional” without becoming an enemy of The Constitution.

“How many Armored Divisions does ACORN have?”

]]> By: Artfldgr http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obama-still-working-for-zeleyas-return/#comment-117490 Artfldgr Wed, 22 Jul 2009 01:45:50 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obama-still-working-for-zeleyas-return/#comment-117490 while obama is supporting what would traditionally be the wrong side, he is not doing it completely. at least not yet. we still have american troops in the honduras, and so he has not withdrawn them (that i have heard). talks keep falling through cause the people will not have him back in any form inside the borders (as far as i can tell). while obama is supporting what would traditionally be the wrong side, he is not doing it completely. at least not yet. we still have american troops in the honduras, and so he has not withdrawn them (that i have heard). talks keep falling through cause the people will not have him back in any form inside the borders (as far as i can tell).

]]> By: Gringo http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obama-still-working-for-zeleyas-return/#comment-117470 Gringo Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:28:38 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obama-still-working-for-zeleyas-return/#comment-117470 Here is an article from El Heraldo in Tegucigalpa on July 9: <a href="http://www.elheraldo.hn/Al%20Frente/Ediciones/2009/07/10/Noticias/Requisan-computadoras-de-Casa-Presidencial" rel="nofollow">Requisan computadoras de Casa Presidencial </a> Nearly two weeks ago, the Honduran press was reporting that computers were being inspected. Here is an article from La Tribuna in Tegucigalpa from <a href="http://www.latribuna.hn/web2.0/?p=20130" rel="nofollow"> July 16</a> on the results of the inspection of the computers. Europa Press in Spain/Catalonia picked it up, in addition to Libertad Digital and ABC Spain. It has been getting some circulation in the English-speaking blogosphere.When is the MSM in the US going to pick it up? Here is an article from El Heraldo in Tegucigalpa on July 9: Requisan computadoras de Casa Presidencial Nearly two weeks ago, the Honduran press was reporting that computers were being inspected.

Here is an article from La Tribuna in Tegucigalpa from July 16 on the results of the inspection of the computers.

Europa Press in Spain/Catalonia picked it up, in addition to Libertad Digital and ABC Spain.

It has been getting some circulation in the English-speaking blogosphere.When is the MSM in the US going to pick it up?

]]> By: Baklava http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obama-still-working-for-zeleyas-return/#comment-117449 Baklava Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:15:51 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obama-still-working-for-zeleyas-return/#comment-117449 Neo, he he. I saw that Yahoo news article also. I'll never get back those minutes of my life... Neo, he he. I saw that Yahoo news article also.

I’ll never get back those minutes of my life…

]]> By: gcotharn http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obama-still-working-for-zeleyas-return/#comment-117446 gcotharn Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:12:52 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obama-still-working-for-zeleyas-return/#comment-117446 empathizing. Having a bad linguistic day. I must fall back on this: a comment done imperfectly now is better than a comment done perfectly 10 minutes from now. It is true, isn't it?! ? Sure hope so. empathizing.

Having a bad linguistic day.

I must fall back on this: a comment done imperfectly now is better than a comment done perfectly 10 minutes from now. It is true, isn’t it?! ? Sure hope so.

]]> By: gcotharn http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obama-still-working-for-zeleyas-return/#comment-117442 gcotharn Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:08:15 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obama-still-working-for-zeleyas-return/#comment-117442 Ah, sweet words from my secret adopted blog big brother. I could be wrong, it's just a supposition. But I do think it's the Occam's Razor supposition in this instance. Re: quickly rattled Totally. Huevos diminuto. Barack is completely, easily rattled - as is anyone who lacks a solid philosophical or theological foundation for their beliefs and actions. Re: marxist sympathy Certainly, Barack does have some amount of Marxist sympathy. To have full respect for democracy, and to fully dismiss Marxism, one must believe the human spirit wants to soar. Barack believes humans want to get what is theirs. I think this is why Barack cannot empathize with the Iranian people: Iranian trains, metaphorically, run on time. Whatever, Barack must wonder, are the Iranian people so upset about? Iranians have so many freedoms, why make such a fuss over self-determination? It doesn't make sense to Barack. He doesn't get that thing about the human spirit wanting to soar. And this is why I can fully see Barack emphasizing, to some extent, with Zelaya; and why I can see Barack wondering why the major fuss over Castro, Chavez, and Ortega, and friends. In Barack's analysis, a minor fuss might be appropriate, but why do the neocons make such a major fuss? It doesn't make sense to Barack. He doesn't get that human spirit thing. He is a realist, dammit. Ah, sweet words from my secret adopted blog big brother.

I could be wrong, it’s just a supposition. But I do think it’s the Occam’s Razor supposition in this instance.

Re: quickly rattled
Totally. Huevos diminuto. Barack is completely, easily rattled – as is anyone who lacks a solid philosophical or theological foundation for their beliefs and actions.

Re: marxist sympathy
Certainly, Barack does have some amount of Marxist sympathy. To have full respect for democracy, and to fully dismiss Marxism, one must believe the human spirit wants to soar. Barack believes humans want to get what is theirs.

I think this is why Barack cannot empathize with the Iranian people: Iranian trains, metaphorically, run on time. Whatever, Barack must wonder, are the Iranian people so upset about? Iranians have so many freedoms, why make such a fuss over self-determination? It doesn’t make sense to Barack. He doesn’t get that thing about the human spirit wanting to soar.

And this is why I can fully see Barack emphasizing, to some extent, with Zelaya; and why I can see Barack wondering why the major fuss over Castro, Chavez, and Ortega, and friends. In Barack’s analysis, a minor fuss might be appropriate, but why do the neocons make such a major fuss? It doesn’t make sense to Barack. He doesn’t get that human spirit thing. He is a realist, dammit.

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