Comments on: Obamaspeak: redefining “bipartisan” http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obamaspeak-redefining-bipartisan/ Thu, 24 May 2012 18:52:45 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Oblio http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obamaspeak-redefining-bipartisan/#comment-117536 Oblio Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:54:08 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obamaspeak-redefining-bipartisan/#comment-117536 Mrs. Whatsit is on the case, as usual. We all need more handy Alice resources, so here they are: http://www.alice-in-wonderland.net/ from the home page: <i>"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked. "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."</i> Mrs. Whatsit is on the case, as usual.

We all need more handy Alice resources, so here they are: http://www.alice-in-wonderland.net/

from the home page:

“But I don’t want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked.
“Oh, you can’t help that,” said the Cat: “we’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad.”
“How do you know I’m mad?” said Alice.
“You must be,” said the Cat, “or you wouldn’t have come here.”

]]> By: Thomass http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obamaspeak-redefining-bipartisan/#comment-117498 Thomass Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:55:33 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obamaspeak-redefining-bipartisan/#comment-117498 I'd like to think a conservative republican president could just get a lot of democrat support because the policies would be more mainstream. I’d like to think a conservative republican president could just get a lot of democrat support because the policies would be more mainstream.

]]> By: Baklava http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obamaspeak-redefining-bipartisan/#comment-117462 Baklava Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:06:33 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obamaspeak-redefining-bipartisan/#comment-117462 Dr. Helen gives comment about ∅bama's take a pill quote. Are we living in a dream??? http://drhelen.blogspot.com/2009/07/maybe-youre-better-off-not-having.html Dr. Helen gives comment about ∅bama’s take a pill quote. Are we living in a dream???

http://drhelen.blogspot.com/2009/07/maybe-youre-better-off-not-having.html

]]> By: Baklava http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obamaspeak-redefining-bipartisan/#comment-117456 Baklava Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:27:53 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obamaspeak-redefining-bipartisan/#comment-117456 http://patterico.com/2009/07/21/state-medical-associations-oppose-obamacare/ 17 State Medical Associations oppose ∅bamacare http://patterico.com/2009/07/21/state-medical-associations-oppose-obamacare/

17 State Medical Associations oppose ∅bamacare

]]> By: gcotharn http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obamaspeak-redefining-bipartisan/#comment-117455 gcotharn Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:06:41 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obamaspeak-redefining-bipartisan/#comment-117455 It's a straw man to assert that human perfection is a Christian standard. The opposite is true: the reality of human imperfection is a Christian standard. If humans could be perfect, then Christianity would not exist. One of Saul Alinsky's rules: hold your opponents to their standards. You are trying hold us Christians to a standard: human perfection, which we do not believe in. Here's a standard we do believe in: forgiveness. It’s a straw man to assert that human perfection is a Christian standard. The opposite is true: the reality of human imperfection is a Christian standard. If humans could be perfect, then Christianity would not exist.

One of Saul Alinsky’s rules: hold your opponents to their standards.

You are trying hold us Christians to a standard: human perfection, which we do not believe in. Here’s a standard we do believe in: forgiveness.

]]> By: Nolanimrod http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obamaspeak-redefining-bipartisan/#comment-117432 Nolanimrod Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:41:50 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obamaspeak-redefining-bipartisan/#comment-117432 You think WE feel betrayed? Imagine how Tony Rezco, Hot Rod Blagojevich, and Jeremiah Wright feel! You think WE feel betrayed? Imagine how Tony Rezco, Hot Rod Blagojevich, and Jeremiah Wright feel!

]]> By: Mrs Whatsit http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obamaspeak-redefining-bipartisan/#comment-117431 Mrs Whatsit Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:41:36 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obamaspeak-redefining-bipartisan/#comment-117431 I don't know what you mean by 'glory,'" Alice said. Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. "Of course you don't – till I tell you. I meant 'there's a nice knock-down argument for you!'" "But 'glory' doesn't mean 'a nice knock-down argument,'" Alice objected. "When I use a word," Humpty Dumpty said in a rather a scornful tone, "it means just what I choose it to mean – neither more nor less." "The question is," said Alice, "whether you can make words mean different things." "The question is," said Humpty Dumpty, "which is to be master – that's all." I don’t know what you mean by ‘glory,’” Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. “Of course you don’t – till I tell you. I meant ‘there’s a nice knock-down argument for you!’”
“But ‘glory’ doesn’t mean ‘a nice knock-down argument,’” Alice objected.
“When I use a word,” Humpty Dumpty said in a rather a scornful tone, “it means just what I choose it to mean – neither more nor less.”
“The question is,” said Alice, “whether you can make words mean different things.”
“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master – that’s all.”

]]> By: physicsguy http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obamaspeak-redefining-bipartisan/#comment-117426 physicsguy Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:26:31 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obamaspeak-redefining-bipartisan/#comment-117426 The greatest tragedy of the election was not that BHo was elected president, it was that he also was given a super majority in both houses. This is not the Democratic party of even 15 years ago. It is a radical left party still assuming the name of Democrats. Why should an ideologue try to be bipartisian when he will get everything he wants by simply asking for it. Just think what a few extra Rep. seats in the House or Senate would have saved us. The greatest tragedy of the election was not that BHo was elected president, it was that he also was given a super majority in both houses. This is not the Democratic party of even 15 years ago. It is a radical left party still assuming the name of Democrats. Why should an ideologue try to be bipartisian when he will get everything he wants by simply asking for it. Just think what a few extra Rep. seats in the House or Senate would have saved us.

]]> By: HumboldtBlue http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obamaspeak-redefining-bipartisan/#comment-117427 HumboldtBlue Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:26:28 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obamaspeak-redefining-bipartisan/#comment-117427 Umm, so if Obama isn't operating in a bipartisan fashion, does that not mean he has no sensible opposition to work with? Seems so. Then again, the modern GOP is a paragon of intellectual heft -- cue Palin, McCain, Bachmann -- a bastion of ethical and moral standards -- cue the whole lineup of lying, adulterous hypocrites who cleave Jeebus to their hearts and their mistresses to their loins. We have an opposition party of no plans, no ideas, no solutions and yet, it's Obama's fault this clown car collective of war-mongering chickenhawks can't offer even a simple alternative to the plans the administration puts forth. Got it. You guys stick with that plan, it's working so well for you. Palin/Bachmann 2012! Umm, so if Obama isn’t operating in a bipartisan fashion, does that not mean he has no sensible opposition to work with?

Seems so. Then again, the modern GOP is a paragon of intellectual heft — cue Palin, McCain, Bachmann — a bastion of ethical and moral standards — cue the whole lineup of lying, adulterous hypocrites who cleave Jeebus to their hearts and their mistresses to their loins.

We have an opposition party of no plans, no ideas, no solutions and yet, it’s Obama’s fault this clown car collective of war-mongering chickenhawks can’t offer even a simple alternative to the plans the administration puts forth.

Got it. You guys stick with that plan, it’s working so well for you.

Palin/Bachmann 2012!

]]> By: gcotharn http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obamaspeak-redefining-bipartisan/#comment-117421 gcotharn Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:15:29 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/07/21/obamaspeak-redefining-bipartisan/#comment-117421 actually, "directly insinuate" is a contradiction. So, I hope you know what I meant, and I shall hush up now. actually, “directly insinuate” is a contradiction. So, I hope you know what I meant, and I shall hush up now.

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