And about that “high-level Republican political operative” the DNC pretends to be so incensed about
Remember that phrase in the DNC video, “This mob activity is straight from the playbook of high-level Republican political operatives”?
Well, Mary Katherine Ham has unearthed the identity of that “high-level Republican political operative” [sic], and what was actually written on his website.
It’s enough to make you weep—for the fact that our country is in the grip of our current Democrat leaders and their lies, as well as the media that covers for them.
Neo,
I usually don’t post long comments, but if you don’t mind I’d like to share this email I got from my sister (I’m so proud!)
Bob (my brother, not his real name),
I would have to say that my experience in [a medium-sized town in Kansas] is similar to the account in your friend’s email. I would say initially we had more over 50 people in our gatherings, but young families and some teenagers are starting to come to our rallies.
We have no funding, although we are working on getting tax free status. Right now our group can’t even afford a newspaper ad, so all communication is done word of mouth. The man (Joe) responsible for most of the organizing is a Fed Ex worker, and father of five young children. He’s got his whole family involved. One lady (Marlene,) that I am coordinating with, organized the first rally, until Joe took the reins. Marlene and I are planning to host study sessions on Our American Heritage, which the liberals are busy bashing, but stems from the work of David [last name redacted], who has done some heavy research on the founding fathers and their intent in writing our Constitution.
Joe has a website, and an email list now, so over 300 people are contacted every time we plan something.
Actually that method is working pretty darn well. We had a small event yesterday, and are planning one on Sept 11 that will be a caravan to Topeka with a large rolling petition that we are carrying on a borrowed trailer. The petition is against government health care, and will be moved around town the next few weeks to solicit signatures.
If Obama and the Pelosi people think that we can be dismissed, then they have another thing coming. We are obviously not Astroturf, or angry mobs, or any other name they want to pin on us in an effort to discredit our views. We are Americans who believe in small Federal Government that should get back to performing the duties clearly outlined in our Constitution, and stop usurping the powers reserved to the States, and We the People.
Obama now wants to play big brother, and make a list of our names because we disagree with his policies. We don’t scare that easily. He is only further discrediting himself in our eyes. This isn’t Chicago, and Obama’s going to learn that the hard way. American people are not going to be bullied into submission. He’s tangled himself up in a sticky web of lies. That fly he swatted is lucky, because he spared it a fate similar to the one he has flown himself into. Caught in a giant web of his making, and the harder he struggles, the more he becomes ensnared. He’s a punk and way out of his league. How long did he really think people would fall for his hollow teleprompted speeches? [Our liberal brother] may be one who hangs on to the illusive dream of a socialized Utopia, but more and more people are waking up every day.
I am a firm believer of American Exceptionalism. America will not go down as easily as Obama had planned. The Dems will lose their majority in 2010, and then the investigations into Obama and his army of Czars will begin. He may not even serve out this term. The most he can hope for will be lame duck one term presidency, and his legacy will be recorded as worse than Carter’s in history. I will remember him with gratitude for waking the American People up with his egregious play for power.
Love to all,
Jane (my sister, not her real name)
The Sotomayor shit is pissing me off to much to hardly think of anything else in politics at the moment, “same conclusion as a wise Latina woman” BARF-O-RAMA-BIGOTRY!!!
Yes, weep. But not from a desire to restore the Republicans of the Bush era. Yes, they were better for America than the Chicago Democrats, but was McCain the answer? Where have we gone wrong? Let me count the ways. Woe is America.
Neo,
I believe that we are witnessing the beginning of the democrat’s unraveling. As more and more people wake up to the lies and the big bait & switch that they were fed during the 2008 election by hard core leftists, with major help from the usual suspects in the main-stream media, there will be a growing backlash.
The backlash will be bitterly fought by the hard core leftists who have taken over the democratic party.
Already we see them trying to muddy the water with their lies.
The difference now, which in their arrogance they fail to understand, is that they are lying about the American people. Before, they could lie about issues that were remote and not of major interest to the majority of the politically non-engaged. Now, people are paying attention because the issues before us have significant direct consequences to our everyday lives.
We have met the enemy and they are us! Those legions of us, stuck in flyover country, bitterly clinging to their guns and religion, not having gone to the right ivy league schools, not having been ‘friends of Angelo’, who don’t have gold plated government funded retirements and total coverage insurance, who may still, God forbid, have an accent or say you betcha, who don’t get to fly around in private jets. Who drink beer out of a can orjust get regular coffee. Yeah, we’re the enemy alright. We’re the folks who work hard to make a living and try to provide a better life for our kids, who volunteer to go into harm’s way to defend this country, who actually still believe in the American dream, individual and inalienable rights and limited government. We are the enemy indeed. But look at who and what we are the enemy of, and if you have an IQ to at least match your shoe size, you’ll be grateful ‘enemies’ like us exist.
Now is the time to keep the pressure on. TO write our representatives, federal and state and to let them know that they work for us, not the other way around.
Expect a bitter and possibly violent fight. They will pull out all the stops. The hard left democrats are about power, getting it and keeping it. Nothing more, nothing less.
“It’s enough to make you weep–for the fact that our country is in the grip of our current Democrat leaders and their lies, as well as the media that covers for them.”
That’s the thing, it isn’t just the traitor Obungler, the real problem is the widespread intellectually corrupt culture from top to bottom, of the radical left-wing Democratic Party. I love how you’ve taken off the gloves in your commentary these days Neo.
“The difference now, which in their arrogance they fail to understand, is that they are lying about the American people. ”
Great point, Tim P.
People who attended recent town hall meetings to register their honest and genuine dissatisfaction, and who are now being labeled as “instigators” by this shameless administration and the clueless left-coast
democratdemagogue congresspeople, are about to give a whole new meaning to the phrase “pissed off” – I hope so, anyway.My only reservation concerns protests planned for 9/11. I don’t doubt that those planning demonstrations and caravans on that date mean well. I just feel that on the anniversary of such a horrible national tragedy, we should strive to be Americans first and, for one day, anyway, lay aside our partisanship and differences over public policy.
And I maintain that opinion despite knowing that the progressives apparently lost any sense of reverence or decency long ago, at least as evidenced by their shameless attempts to co-opt such observances and events.
I’ve quoted this before, but its just so appropriate. The poem by Bertolt Brecht in the wake of the 1953 riots in Communist East Germany, titled “The Solution”:
After the uprising of the 17th June
The Secretary of the Writers Union
Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee
Stating that the people
Had forfeited the confidence of the government
And could win it back only
By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier
In that case for the government
To dissolve the people
And elect another
The Dems arent able to be totalitarian, as they are bound by the US Constitution, and as the people are now raising their voices in exercise of the First Amendment. But they (the Dems) are elitist. Alas for them, the US doesnt contain a population willing to play the role of their devoted “masses” within their utopian fantasies.
NEO, check this out: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/seton-motley/2009/08/06/new-fcc-chief-diversity-officer-co-wrote-liberal-groups-structural-imb
J.L. says “The Dems arent able to be totalitarian, as they are bound by the US Constitution…”
Since we now have judges citing “emerging international opinion” in their rulings, the Constitution no longer restrains them as it should.
The first judge who cited “emerging international opinion” should have been impeached!
Great smack down by Mary.
This whole thing could get ugly. I am reading all sorts militant talk on blogs from the far right to the far left. Even at the Huffington Post some commenters are talking about war over this issue.
Over at Malkin’s site, she is saying Obama is calling on the unions to join the fray at these meetings. No doubt ACORN will join in too. What happens then?
Seems to be ratcheting up pretty fast.
And Pelosi’s “swastika” comment was over the top.
This whole thing could get ugly. I am reading all sorts militant talk on blogs from the far right to the far left. Even at the Huffington Post some commenters are talking about war over this issue.
Let’s roll.
MikeLL Says:
August 6th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
I’ve noticed that too.
“Let’s roll.”
Well, as long as we don’t use pictures of Obama with Joker’s makeup on it? Yea, that’s a cheap shot but if you want something people find damaging calling for violence is one of them.
However I do agree it is rapidly getting to that point, I said much the same thing during Bush’s tenure. I do not think this is going to end in a peaceful voting process, I think it is going to end in bloodshed. I do not think that the radical leftist will give it up at this point, I think they are seeing their last great hope for non-violent takeover and they are seeing it rapidly go down the drain.
Outside of the radical left I know of no one who truly supports what is going on. I know a great deal of Democrats that “support” it because they figure Obama is really smart and *can’t* be bad so they must just be missing it. I also know some who support half of it and the other half is irrelevant (for instance I know a few of the “religious left” that feel it is our responsibility to provide for the poor, cost is irrelevant as we are supposed to sacrifice anyway).
However as time goes on I notice more and more going silent (even the ones that do not know I am a conservative) and even the religious left has really narrowed their focus. I find it quite amusing myself, were I not a US citizen I would be popping some more popcorn in anticipation – as is I’m glad I live in Tennessee.
Well, as long as we don’t use pictures of Obama with Joker’s makeup on it?
I love that picture. You have entirely missed my point.
Yea, that’s a cheap shot but if you want something people find damaging calling for violence is one of them.
Where did I call for violence? I would never call for violence. I’ve seen you call for violence.
strcpy Says:”I do not think that the radical leftist will give it up at this point.”
Doesn’t seem like it. They might have already missed their best opportunity, though. Let us hope.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/25891.html
“If you get hit, we will punch back twice as hard,” Messina (Deputy Whitehouse Chief of Staff) said, according to an official who attended the meeting.
Really?
Wow. Fighting words. Interesting.
I guess I don’t understand the whole fight over pre-existing conditions.
If you get in a car accident without insurance should I then be forced to insure you? Doesn’t that take the risk aspect out of it?
Why should I be forced to insure you after you have already become ill? Shouldn’t you have thought about that and covered yourself before the sickness?
“as well as the media that covers for them.”
Yeah, isn’t that interesting. The media no longer covers them, they just cover for them.
Won’t it be interesting if the day (ever) comes when “the media” finally becomes so embarassed that they sit down and write an apology for abdicating their professional responsibiilities. Like the big New York Times exposition explaining how they let Jayson Blair trash their reputation. Or rather, how they trashed their own reputation by not holding Jayson Blair to proper professional standards. If and when they finally see the light on how they’ve behaved, that will be an interesting time.
“I love that picture. You have entirely missed my point.”
Probably so, given that you told us to drop it I kinda figured you meant for us to, you know – drop it. Guess I’m kinda that sort of person.
“Where did I call for violence?”
“lets roll” ring a bell? Not sure how else to think on that one.
I think violence is looming, I think they will loose it, but I do not think “let’s roll”. I think “let’s not roll”, but that isn’t my decision. If I thought “let’s roll” I would be out there doing so.
Maybe today is opposite day and I’m just not getting it?
“Why should I be forced to insure you after you have already become ill? Shouldn’t you have thought about that and covered yourself before the sickness?”
Health Insurance is a harder issue in that there are things you can not control in both health and costs.
Should we deny Alzheimer’s treatment to an overweight smoker who couldn’t afford major medical even though the they have no links between them? Heck, should we tell an obese person in the ER for a heart attack “Die” (even though there is a strong correlation *and* causation along with an increased health insurance cost which many can not afford)?
Those aren’t easy questions. They are in the abstract, but if one was you mother, spouse, or child would you simply shrug and say ” Oh well, shoulda think of that a week ago” (especially those that can not afford the coverage).
But then Obamacare doesn’t do anything but lower health care for all of us so we should all oppose it. I’m even one that says health care *has* to be rationed to some extent, but I’m glad I’m not one in charge of deciding where to draw the line. I’m sure I do not want the govt doing so, I’m more happy with what we have now.
And, lastly, I’ll say this. I currently can not afford the same level of insurance I could have received when I was unemployed (medicaid). Were I to want to maximize my health care over the next six months to a year I would not have taken my current job (which will eventually fund me more than well enough – 1/2 time or less software engineer makes decent for a part time, but still it isn’t much) and went with medicaid/welfare. During my time unemployed I qualified for those programs yet choose not to go on the govt teat – should I be *that* punished for not doing so?
I’m not remotely arguing for Obamacare – as I said it is a step down no matter your plan. But then given the way our system works your idea there doesn’t work for a huge amount of people. That you go from “good” to “rock bottom” by actually starting to produce something makes it an incentive to stay at “good”.
My personal idea is to reduce medicaid and offer that money towards decent health care for those in a transition. The only people that *should* be affected here are those two classes and we should be pushing them out of the total subsistence. Everyone who wants can be more employed than not and that should be reward instead of punished – those that are fully employed already have decent health care. And even then, yes there are people who make enough that choose not too – in that case yes they should be financially on the line but even then I do not take that strong a stance (just garner their pay check until payed for).
We have already proven we are willing to go to war with ourselves if that is the “only answer”. It’s a different world now, though.
Like I said many months ago, the best we can hope for is to bring the military home to have them stand at our borders and defend against outside influence while we the people slap ourselves silly deciding what path our nation is going to take. It will reach a point, I believe, where one side or the other is going to have to blink. I don’t intend to blink.
This is America, folks. There are a large number of people in this country that the left fails to understand, that the rest of the world fails to understand. There is a point where no mas will mean no mas, and that is all there is to it.
Should we turn on ourselves and become so self absorbed in our own turmoil that we don’t pay the proper attention to areas outside our own borders, the face of the planet will change over night.
I was just standing in the foyer at the office with a co-worker looking out the front window. In the parking lot across from ours was a van load of individuals wearing the same color t-shirts pouring out into the lot. I made a joke, saying “Look, ACORN is here.”
My co-worker looked at me and said, “What do you mean, are they a temp agency?” I looked at him and asked if he knew who ACORN was. He said, “No, who are they?”
The co-worker is a 55 year old white male. The color of his skin doesn’t matter. His ignorance, however, is mind boggling. I turned and walked away saying he and I would never again discuss politics or anything else of importance. The guy, like me, wears a tie and has his own office, if you catch my drift.
Where possible, we should get to know our local cops. Wave when a squad car drives by. (That goes double for the military, if you live near a base.) Drop off homemade cookies for the ones who pulled duty on Christmas eve and Thanksgiving. Stay cool when they give you a ticket even though you’re seething inside. (That’s happening a lot around here. Cash strapped communities are using them to fill the coffers.)
There’s no need to preach or indoctrinate; just show them who their friends are. If and when the Brawl comes, it won’t hurt to have them in our corner.
This whole thing could get ugly.
Could? they’re going to roll the unions out to counter this “astroturf” campaign. And we all know how pacifist union organizers are.
Hopefully, the axe handles they’ll be using will say Made in America.
I didn’t take “let’s roll” as an incitement to violence. Perhaps we should all be aware that in high-tension times, there is some tendency to overinterpret comments.
The discussion of violence, with dark mutterings that we’re going to be prepared if the Other Side wants to attempt a takeover, we’re going to take back, etc, are completely out-of-bounds. This is like the guy sitting in a biker bar saying to no one in particular “I’m not looking for a fight, but if someone…” No, jack, you’re looking for a fight. You’d love to take any pretense so you could claim it’s the other guy’s fault, but it’s you who are driving this. Soft tyranny is best confronted softly. If folks really think that there’s this vast “we” who “won’t put up with this,” and will rise to the cause of revolution because some clowns provoke a fight and get put in jail, they are quite deluded.
This is absolutely identical to the overheated leftist rhetoric trying to make Bushcheneyhalliburton into some fascist conspiracy. People want to make their enemies look larger, so they can look like Beowulf recuing Heorot. But just because you want to be heroic, and would be willing to take up arms with great courage, doesn’t mean that there is a situation that actually warrants it. You’re not going to get your chance to be heroic in that way. You’re just going to be a resentful thug blaming everything on someone else, like everyone else in prison.
Up in NH we went through some of this not long ago with Ed Brown and the tax protesters. They all thought they were standing up for the real America and were better than everyone else because they had “courage” to stand up to the corrupt legal system unlike the sheeple. Unfortunately for them, they were dead wrong on the facts, refused to accept any explanation, and were just determined to create some sort of flash point that would somehow just “prove” everything in their favor. I know some of these people. Dude, I treated some of these people at my hospital — some of them are truly disturbed. Don’t go there. You start hanging out with that crowd — or similar overheated crowds now — and you start absorbing their perspective, thinking that being called crazy is just additional proof that you’re right, because “see how they’re trying to discredit us.”
I’ve seen it in end-times Christians, 9-11 Truthers, antiglobalists, enviroterrorists, alternative medicine adherents, and folks who are sure that the King James Bible is the only allowable translation. Discussions with them are exactly the same, even though their causes are different.
The Jews are not poisoning the wells, buffleheads — the Freemasons are not controlling the world’s zinc supply. Yeah, that where you’re headed.
“It’s enough to make you weep–for the fact that our country is in the grip of our current Democrat leaders and their lies, as well as the media that covers for them.”
I’m not weeping yet, Neo. What we are seeing, in my opinion, is a heavy-handed attempt to force policy that Americans don’t want, a heavy-handed attempt to make that policy look good (and demonize any who disagree), and incompetent wild accusations that are looking more and more desperate.
Americans generally don’t like incompetence… and Americans hate being pushed around.
With that public enemies list (flag@whitehouse.gov), President Obama has really crossed an important line. He’ll coast for a while on his beautiful-sounding speeches. But Americans also hate being lied to… and more and more of Obama’s campaign promises are proving to be as empty as he is.
This, by the way, is precisely why our Founding Fathers wanted to make sure our government was afraid of us, and not the other way around. That’s why they protected speech; that’s why they protected our right to have guns.
We’re now seeing Americans unafraid to speak up. If it comes down to violence, well, what percentage of Tea Party people do you suppose are armed? And what percentage of Obamacare supporters?
But I don’t think it’ll come to that, or anything like that. President Obama has, apparently, never learned the importance of not annoying people. He is, little by little, alienating nearly every group that voted for him.
That’s no way to get anything done. But actually getting things done has never been his thing, has it?
respectfully,
Daniel in Brookline
I really don’t like much of what Obama, the Dems and the MSM are up to these days, but violent civil war?
It didn’t happen in 1968, the year that MLK and RFK were assassinated, huge race riots, the Tet offensive, police were clubbing demonstrators at the Democratic Convention, and Nixon was elected. It seems unlikely it will happen now.
The fact that Obama and the Dem leadership have squandered most of the blind good will voters bestowed upon them last year in 200 days, such that Obama the leadership are resorting to even more blatant dirty tricks indicates that they are gambling even more recklessly and losing.
Socialism has never worked anywhere. Socialism is being thrust upon the inhabitants of the most free nation and freedom loving people in the world. Does anyone expect it to be seamless? Does anyone expect it to succeed? Does anyone deny it is happening – still?
The most outrageous claims at this time are coming from the left. Pelosi and her Swastikas. I was in stitches over that. What a silly woman!
I hear so much talk about how people are waking up and seeing where our country is truly going. How people are fed up and are now fighting back, etc. Problem is though, that all this talk is only on the internet and on relatively few websites. I talk to many people (in person) almost daily about what is happening with our government and am astounded that so very few people have any clue about anything that I read on sites like this one. I feel that there is a huge chunk of the population that think CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, and the NYT are the only credible news sources and only refer to these outlets for all of their news and information, they actually believe that the news doesn’t lie. I firmly believe that there is absolutely nothing that Barrack & Co. cannot get away with, nothing!
Not butter, you are correct. The fellow worker above is a golf nut. His TV is always on the golf channel. He plays golf every weekend, all weekend and goes to driving ranges on the week nights. But he’s never heard of ACORN. He hates Bill O’Reilly, but has never watched him. (I watch O’Reilly a lot, but I don’t like him all that much either) He thinks highly of Chris Matthews and his tingle. He voted for Obama. But he’s never heard of ACORN.
There are millions who don’t understand what is going on, millions more in denial who want to avoid the whole thing, millions more again who think people like me wear tin foil hats, and millions again who are fully swallowing the entire left wing story.
strcpy Says:
“I also know some who support half of it”
Hell, I support half of it…. that pisses me off too (that Obama is linking the ‘good’* stuff to the stupid stuff).
* re: IMO good stuff
MikeLL Says:
“I guess I don’t understand the whole fight over pre-existing conditions.”
Its not so much the car accident healthy guy (who is just a jerk for not having insurance) as the person who has a health problem, is between jobs, but has too much money for existing health plans. Sometimes these people get screwed and fall between cracks.
Oops, I mean ‘exisiting public health plans’.
Again, I make the argument that most of us are looking at things using the template of the usual and the expected; most likely because we are really, really frightened about what– we increasingly feel in our guts–will be revealed to us if we use the template of tyranny and dictatorship. We have a very bad feeling about all this, and want to turn our heads away and not look squarely and intently at it, or want to explain it away.
Government thugs shut down peaceful protests, rough up and intimidate or even kill opponents of various dictatorial regimes all over the world–we see it almost every night on our TV screens–but we tell ourselves that that would never happen here–cannot happen here–so, despite the DNC memo sicking goons from the AFL-CIO and the SEIU on protestors, despite White House briefings telling Democrats that if protestors push hard, the White House will push back twice as hard, despite the recent attack by union thugs at a St. Louis town hall meeting, despite Obama’s new “informer” program, despite Speaker Pilosi likening town hall protestors to “Nazis,” despite many efforts by the White House and members of Congress to de-ligitimize and demonize or dismiss as nuts, right wing crazies, “Astroturfers,” RNC or Insurance Company plants the ordinary citizens who show up and question or protest Obama & Co.’s plans, despite efforts by Democratic members of Congress to hide from their constituents–by canceling town halls, by holding unannounced town halls, by substituting telephone call in town halls for face-to-face town hall meetings, or packing the audience with union members and barring ordinary citizens from the hall–despite what all this looks like, most of us are still telling ourselves that it couldn’t possibly be or mean what it clearly seems to be and mean.
That is, I believe, what Obama & Co. fervently hope we will believe and, that, by the time experience will have taught us that all of this is, indeed, really what it seems to be and is, indeed, the American equivalent of what we see happening in Venezuela, in Honduras, in Burma, in Cuba or, depending on how things develop, even what we see in China or Iran, it will be too late. Such deliberate, thuggish, anti-democratic actions by Obama & Co., aimed squarely at intimidating citizens and crushing dissent, have to be as widely publicized and criticized as possible, and each and every step in this escalatory process leading toward some form of tyranny and dictatorship here in America–however unthinkable this may be–has to be seen for what it is, and opposed as forcefully as possible.
In view of the apparent attack in St. Louis by SEIU members against opponents of Obama & Co., I urge people to attend town halls or other such meetings with members of Congress, AARP types, or meetings likely to attract supporters of Obama & Co. to bring cameras with both video and sound capability to those meetings so that they can document any attacks, or “fishy” conduct or people they might see, so that this information, can be captured and uploaded to the web to spread it as quickly as possible.
Here, just in, is a headline about what we can expect in a future Obamatopia: “Cash Strapped Cuba says toilet paper is running short,” see (http://tinyurl.com/m2uez7)
That is, I believe, what Obama & Co. fervently hope we will believe and, that, by the time experience will have taught us that all of this is, indeed, really what it seems to be and is, indeed, the American equivalent of what we see happening in Venezuela, in Honduras, in Burma, in Cuba or, depending on how things develop, even what we see in China or Iran, it will be too late.
Wolla: You’re welcome to believe that; I don’t. Not because I have any faith in Obama & Co. but because I do have faith in America and Americans.
We can be suckered, no doubt, but we can’t be rolled that easily. A sizeable backlash has already built up to the point where Obama’s initiatives are all failing, his poll numbers are below Bush’s at this point in his presidency, and there is no good news on the horizon for Obama.
The alarming actions emerging from the White House and its supporters are signs of desperation, not of incipient triumph. Obama is perilously close to being a lame-duck 200 days into his presidency.
Wolla Dalbo Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
That was a great comment. I agree wholeheartedly.
There is also an excellent thread going at Belmont Club.
Among the comments I especially liked were 27. RAH, 30. trangbang68, and 43. Mongoose, but there are plenty of others.
huxley Says:
August 7th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
I know that Obama’s poll numbers are declining, but I won’t breathe easy until I start seeing his agenda losing votes in Congress. So far I think he’s gotten pretty much everything he wanted. If large numbers of Democrats actually turn against him I’ll breathe a sigh of relief, but not before.
rickl: Obama has failed, so far, with his two biggest initiatives: cap’n’trade and Obamacare. The latter especially was intended to be Obama’s signature legislation.
He got the giganto stimulus through in his first few weeks, but since then what’s he done besides cash for clunkers? Likewise, no foreign policy victories.
huxley:
Understood, but I want to see actual defeats. Crap’n’Tax passed the House but hasn’t been voted on in the Senate; while the healthcare takeover hasn’t been voted on yet in either chamber.
I want to see them defeated. I DO NOT want “compromise” bills passed. In both of those cases, doing nothing is infinitely preferable to any monstrosity the present Congress can come up with.
As for foreign policy: granted, he’s done nothing major other than insult our allies and give aid and comfort to our enemies.
Understood, but I want to see actual defeats.
rickl: There may be compromise bills, but I suspect that they will be so compromised that they will be DOA in practice. Perhaps that won’t assuage you, but that will be something.
Afterwards I beleive there will be real defeats. Pardon my optimism, but I think Obama is a lame duck already unless he bolts for the center.
But I believe his DNA forbids that maneuver. It’s entirely possible IMO that Obama won’t finish his term, not because of violence, but because he implodes.
It’s entirely possible IMO that Obama won’t finish his term
Really? That would be fun to watch. I generally agree that he has missed his best opportunity to get what he wants, but I don’t know what could cause him to end his term in office early.
Check this out, if you haven’t already seen it. Very bad numbers from CNN (CNN!!!).
I think it is an unscientific internet poll, but nevertheless it is CNN. Wild. Look at the “F” grade in every state.
I don’t know what could cause him to end his term in office early.
That’s just a hunch. Obama has never faced serious adversity. He has lived a peculiar dream in which things just kept getting better and better until one day he was the most powerful man on earth, swept in on a wave of messianic adulation and inaugurated with the highest poll numbers since FDR.
I can’t think of any other American president who led such a charmed life. There is no telling how he will react when the going gets tough, but barring some personal transformation I don’t believe Obama has the mental toughness to handle a serious drop in the polls and sustained adversity in office.
He does have this tendency to attack people… even individuals. It’s unpresidential and I don’t remember hearing it before him. I think if anyone is killed and his harsh words are tied to it, he could be hounded from office.