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		<title>By: Oblio</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/07/noonan-half-gets-it/#comment-120575</link>
		<dc:creator>Oblio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 11:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Noonan is not in the lifeboat yet.  She might be testing the water, wondering if she should swim for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Noonan is not in the lifeboat yet.  She might be testing the water, wondering if she should swim for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/07/noonan-half-gets-it/#comment-120554</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 04:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;It’s lost, and we may have to derive it out of First Principles.&lt;/i&gt;

Which leads me to the next chilling thought:

How the hell are the elites of a nation steeped in Mao, Foucault, Derrida, Marx and Hegel going to derive law, and ideas, similar to the founders steeped in Smith, Hume, Kant, Hobbes (don&#039;t forget Calvin) and Plato?

Oh, we are f&#039;ed....

(Note to self:  Need more primers, powder and lead, I can cast and swage my own bullets.  Increase running mileage and brew more beer.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It’s lost, and we may have to derive it out of First Principles.</i></p>
<p>Which leads me to the next chilling thought:</p>
<p>How the hell are the elites of a nation steeped in Mao, Foucault, Derrida, Marx and Hegel going to derive law, and ideas, similar to the founders steeped in Smith, Hume, Kant, Hobbes (don&#8217;t forget Calvin) and Plato?</p>
<p>Oh, we are f&#8217;ed&#8230;.</p>
<p>(Note to self:  Need more primers, powder and lead, I can cast and swage my own bullets.  Increase running mileage and brew more beer.)</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/07/noonan-half-gets-it/#comment-120550</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 03:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Grey–The Maoist playbook, the Bolshevik playbook, the Shining Path Playbook, the Pol Pot playbook, the Hugo Chavez, the Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin, Franco in Spain and even the Mob playbook are all, I suggest, at root the same playbook; some with a little more breadth, subtlety and finesse than others.&lt;/i&gt;

Precisely.  What then shall be our playbook?


That&#039;s the tough one that I am floundering around with.  That wasn&#039;t, thank God, the playbook of the American Revolutionaries and Founding Fathers.

I suspect that there is another playbook out there that we are ill-acquainted with and haven&#039;t seen for (hundreds of?) years.  I wanna play out of that one.  I know it is out there.  It&#039;s lost, and we may have to derive it out of First Principles.

Like the American Revolutionaries did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Grey–The Maoist playbook, the Bolshevik playbook, the Shining Path Playbook, the Pol Pot playbook, the Hugo Chavez, the Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin, Franco in Spain and even the Mob playbook are all, I suggest, at root the same playbook; some with a little more breadth, subtlety and finesse than others.</i></p>
<p>Precisely.  What then shall be our playbook?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the tough one that I am floundering around with.  That wasn&#8217;t, thank God, the playbook of the American Revolutionaries and Founding Fathers.</p>
<p>I suspect that there is another playbook out there that we are ill-acquainted with and haven&#8217;t seen for (hundreds of?) years.  I wanna play out of that one.  I know it is out there.  It&#8217;s lost, and we may have to derive it out of First Principles.</p>
<p>Like the American Revolutionaries did.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomass</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/07/noonan-half-gets-it/#comment-120547</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 03:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nolanimrod Says: 

&quot;It is interesting that she and VDH - in quite different pieces - manage to pluck the same string&quot;

On your point, VDH has occasionally said he see&#039;s Obama&#039;s flaws because he has similar ones (or had them when younger but learned / grew up).</description>
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<p>&#8220;It is interesting that she and VDH &#8211; in quite different pieces &#8211; manage to pluck the same string&#8221;</p>
<p>On your point, VDH has occasionally said he see&#8217;s Obama&#8217;s flaws because he has similar ones (or had them when younger but learned / grew up).</p>
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		<title>By: Nolanimrod</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/07/noonan-half-gets-it/#comment-120535</link>
		<dc:creator>Nolanimrod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 02:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We often in others a reflection in others of ourselves.  The cheat is distrustful, the bully is timorous, the adulterer demands to know who his wife was talking to on the phone.

I believe Peggy is just too honest, too solid, too courageous to see what has been, and is daily becoming more so, very clear about this Barack Obama fellow to those of us who might not be quite so noble a warrior as she.

It is interesting that she and VDH - in quite different pieces - manage to pluck the same string.

And, yes.  Good news about Dr. S.  I had faith - never deleted her from my aggregater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We often in others a reflection in others of ourselves.  The cheat is distrustful, the bully is timorous, the adulterer demands to know who his wife was talking to on the phone.</p>
<p>I believe Peggy is just too honest, too solid, too courageous to see what has been, and is daily becoming more so, very clear about this Barack Obama fellow to those of us who might not be quite so noble a warrior as she.</p>
<p>It is interesting that she and VDH &#8211; in quite different pieces &#8211; manage to pluck the same string.</p>
<p>And, yes.  Good news about Dr. S.  I had faith &#8211; never deleted her from my aggregater.</p>
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		<title>By: armchair pessimist</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/07/noonan-half-gets-it/#comment-120503</link>
		<dc:creator>armchair pessimist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 21:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huxley,

Thanks for the Noonan link.  I remember that piece she wrote but couldn&#039;t find it.  Guess she found a seat in the lifeboat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huxley,</p>
<p>Thanks for the Noonan link.  I remember that piece she wrote but couldn&#8217;t find it.  Guess she found a seat in the lifeboat.</p>
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		<title>By: Wolla Dalbo</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/07/noonan-half-gets-it/#comment-120497</link>
		<dc:creator>Wolla Dalbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grey--The Maoist playbook, the Bolshevik playbook, the Shining Path Playbook, the Pol Pot playbook, the Hugo Chavez, the Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin, Franco in Spain and even the Mob playbook are all, I suggest, at root the same playbook; some with a little more breadth, subtlety and finesse than others.

The fundamental elements common to all are the application of power, violence. intimidation and fear,  deception, the manipulation of language, the transformation and manipulation of the normal rules of the game, and the use of quislings and agents of influence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grey&#8211;The Maoist playbook, the Bolshevik playbook, the Shining Path Playbook, the Pol Pot playbook, the Hugo Chavez, the Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin, Franco in Spain and even the Mob playbook are all, I suggest, at root the same playbook; some with a little more breadth, subtlety and finesse than others.</p>
<p>The fundamental elements common to all are the application of power, violence. intimidation and fear,  deception, the manipulation of language, the transformation and manipulation of the normal rules of the game, and the use of quislings and agents of influence.</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/07/noonan-half-gets-it/#comment-120490</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;What is your suggestion that we do?&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t know.  But the first step to winning is admitting what we are doing now isn&#039;t working.

We&#039;ve gotta do better.  We must do better.

Surely the courageous and esteemed minds of the Republican party leadership elites can come up with a better plan of action than I.

Oh...  Wait....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>What is your suggestion that we do?</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know.  But the first step to winning is admitting what we are doing now isn&#8217;t working.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve gotta do better.  We must do better.</p>
<p>Surely the courageous and esteemed minds of the Republican party leadership elites can come up with a better plan of action than I.</p>
<p>Oh&#8230;  Wait&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Gray</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/07/noonan-half-gets-it/#comment-120489</link>
		<dc:creator>Gray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;So, Gray, how do you propose that those “stupid” people at the St. Louis town hall should have acted? &lt;/i&gt;

Holy Wow:  Where did you get that from?

(I&#039;m suffering a plague of misinterpreting and misreading of my comments.  I never said they were stupid.)

I&#039;m simply searching for, and scrambling around for, something more effective.  They were attempting the only thing they knew how within the intellectual and popular strictures of our Maoist-indoctrinated society.

We need to do better.  They aren&#039;t stupid, but as a party, the Republicans are.

We are politically stupid because we don&#039;t understand the nature of power.  We expect the left to cede us power like we did to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So, Gray, how do you propose that those “stupid” people at the St. Louis town hall should have acted? </i></p>
<p>Holy Wow:  Where did you get that from?</p>
<p>(I&#8217;m suffering a plague of misinterpreting and misreading of my comments.  I never said they were stupid.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m simply searching for, and scrambling around for, something more effective.  They were attempting the only thing they knew how within the intellectual and popular strictures of our Maoist-indoctrinated society.</p>
<p>We need to do better.  They aren&#8217;t stupid, but as a party, the Republicans are.</p>
<p>We are politically stupid because we don&#8217;t understand the nature of power.  We expect the left to cede us power like we did to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomass</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/07/noonan-half-gets-it/#comment-120486</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 20:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gray Says: 

&quot;Checkmate.&quot;

no, now its up to spin time. We can try to show they just don&#039;t want to hear the people or they can try to show its unsafe due to the mobs. Considering the polling data, we might win.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gray Says: </p>
<p>&#8220;Checkmate.&#8221;</p>
<p>no, now its up to spin time. We can try to show they just don&#8217;t want to hear the people or they can try to show its unsafe due to the mobs. Considering the polling data, we might win.</p>
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