Comments on: If Obama’s lost Bob Herbert… http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/22/if-obamas-lost-bob-herbert/ Thu, 24 May 2012 20:05:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Gabriel Syme http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/22/if-obamas-lost-bob-herbert/#comment-122485 Gabriel Syme Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:44:30 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/22/if-obamas-lost-bob-herbert/#comment-122485 "All we can do now is - again - limit the damage as best as possible by - again - voting these people out." Wrong. Inoculate your children to this nonsense, NOW. The schools will not do it for you. Do it yourself. Teach them about free minds, free markets, and true liberty and self-determination. “All we can do now is – again – limit the damage as best as possible by – again – voting these people out.”

Wrong. Inoculate your children to this nonsense, NOW. The schools will not do it for you. Do it yourself. Teach them about free minds, free markets, and true liberty and self-determination.

]]> By: rickl http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/22/if-obamas-lost-bob-herbert/#comment-122391 rickl Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:51:21 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/22/if-obamas-lost-bob-herbert/#comment-122391 <blockquote cite=""> Obama has struggled against the perception that he has trouble connecting with average voters, and some are questioning his choice of a getaway spot for the well-to-do.</blockquote> He sounds like a typical Third World despot who could care less what "average voters" think. And I believe we've seen the last free and fair election in America.

Obama has struggled against the perception that he has trouble connecting with average voters, and some are questioning his choice of a getaway spot for the well-to-do.

He sounds like a typical Third World despot who could care less what “average voters” think.

And I believe we’ve seen the last free and fair election in America.

]]> By: huxley http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/22/if-obamas-lost-bob-herbert/#comment-122282 huxley Mon, 24 Aug 2009 19:09:06 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/22/if-obamas-lost-bob-herbert/#comment-122282 <i>As the health care debate rages on, President Barack Obama will begin <b>a weeklong vacation Sunday in Martha’s Vineyard, an enclave of liberal royalty far from middle America</b>, where his approval numbers are starting to stall. Already, at least one group on the right is taking a jab at Obama over <b>his beach vacation — at a 28-acre farm, said to rent for up to $50,000 a week</b>. Obama has struggled against the perception that he has trouble connecting with average voters, and some are questioning his choice of a getaway spot for the well-to-do. “The danger for President Obama is that he seems to be in what is one of the most elite summer resorts in the United States. From an image-making point of view, it would be better to be in the Wisconsin Dells or Put-in-Bay, Ohio,” said Douglas Brinkley, a presidential historian. <b>“There is the connotation with Martha’s Vineyard of East Coast elitism. ... I have a feeling when they decided on Martha’s Vineyard they didn’t know the health care debate would be this brutal.” </b> <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/26361.html" rel="nofollow">Obama vacations where the elite meet</a></i> As the health care debate rages on, President Barack Obama will begin a weeklong vacation Sunday in Martha’s Vineyard, an enclave of liberal royalty far from middle America, where his approval numbers are starting to stall.

Already, at least one group on the right is taking a jab at Obama over his beach vacation — at a 28-acre farm, said to rent for up to $50,000 a week. Obama has struggled against the perception that he has trouble connecting with average voters, and some are questioning his choice of a getaway spot for the well-to-do.

“The danger for President Obama is that he seems to be in what is one of the most elite summer resorts in the United States. From an image-making point of view, it would be better to be in the Wisconsin Dells or Put-in-Bay, Ohio,” said Douglas Brinkley, a presidential historian. “There is the connotation with Martha’s Vineyard of East Coast elitism. … I have a feeling when they decided on Martha’s Vineyard they didn’t know the health care debate would be this brutal.”

Obama vacations where the elite meet

]]> By: Ymarsakar http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/22/if-obamas-lost-bob-herbert/#comment-122279 Ymarsakar Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:49:14 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/22/if-obamas-lost-bob-herbert/#comment-122279 Dick Morris convinced Clinton to triangulate and not veto the welfare reforms. Who is going to say No to the Obama Emperor? Dick Morris convinced Clinton to triangulate and not veto the welfare reforms.

Who is going to say No to the Obama Emperor?

]]> By: huxley http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/22/if-obamas-lost-bob-herbert/#comment-122257 huxley Mon, 24 Aug 2009 05:54:59 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/22/if-obamas-lost-bob-herbert/#comment-122257 <i>...if he tries to refashion himself as a moderate, it’ll take some good acting and deft teleprompter wielding.</i> rickl: Agreed. I'm not saying that a move to the center will work all that well for Obama, just that he might try it for lack of better alternatives. What I still don't understand is how much of lose-lose situation Obama may be in if he disappoints the left base and the Dem leadership. There is something irrational and ravenous about those two fronts. It's not just Obama. This is supposed to be their golden hour, the recreation of FDR's domination. If that fails, what do these people do? The vitriol we have seen against Bush and now towards the Tea Party and Townhall protests is shocking. If Obama disappoints or fails, where does all that anger and frustration go? …if he tries to refashion himself as a moderate, it’ll take some good acting and deft teleprompter wielding.

rickl: Agreed. I’m not saying that a move to the center will work all that well for Obama, just that he might try it for lack of better alternatives.

What I still don’t understand is how much of lose-lose situation Obama may be in if he disappoints the left base and the Dem leadership. There is something irrational and ravenous about those two fronts. It’s not just Obama.

This is supposed to be their golden hour, the recreation of FDR’s domination. If that fails, what do these people do? The vitriol we have seen against Bush and now towards the Tea Party and Townhall protests is shocking. If Obama disappoints or fails, where does all that anger and frustration go?

]]> By: huxley http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/22/if-obamas-lost-bob-herbert/#comment-122255 huxley Mon, 24 Aug 2009 05:36:17 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/22/if-obamas-lost-bob-herbert/#comment-122255 That's a good guess, Thomass. I lean that way myself. I do believe that's the way Obama's heart and head go. But reality is a powerful force and given a chance to catch a breath, I also believe that Obama and his team can read the tea leaves that they have botched healthcare and they can still dig their hole deeper. Then there's Sod's Law that just when I think I understand Obama, he'll throw me a curve. That’s a good guess, Thomass. I lean that way myself. I do believe that’s the way Obama’s heart and head go.

But reality is a powerful force and given a chance to catch a breath, I also believe that Obama and his team can read the tea leaves that they have botched healthcare and they can still dig their hole deeper.

Then there’s Sod’s Law that just when I think I understand Obama, he’ll throw me a curve.

]]> By: rickl http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/22/if-obamas-lost-bob-herbert/#comment-122254 rickl Mon, 24 Aug 2009 05:32:17 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/22/if-obamas-lost-bob-herbert/#comment-122254 He is a Marxist (and Muslim sympathizer) at his core, so if he tries to refashion himself as a moderate, it'll take some good acting and deft teleprompter wielding. He is a Marxist (and Muslim sympathizer) at his core, so if he tries to refashion himself as a moderate, it’ll take some good acting and deft teleprompter wielding.

]]> By: Thomass http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/22/if-obamas-lost-bob-herbert/#comment-122252 Thomass Mon, 24 Aug 2009 04:22:44 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/22/if-obamas-lost-bob-herbert/#comment-122252 huxley Says: " He will either try to refashion himself as something of a centrist as Clinton did in 1994 or stand by his socialism with tricks. I really don’t know what he will do." I'm guessing he will double down on tricks... I bet he doesn't get that they won't still work as well now that people are catching on / skeptical of him. huxley Says:

” He will either try to refashion himself as something of a centrist as Clinton did in 1994 or stand by his socialism with tricks.

I really don’t know what he will do.”

I’m guessing he will double down on tricks… I bet he doesn’t get that they won’t still work as well now that people are catching on / skeptical of him.

]]> By: Baklava http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/22/if-obamas-lost-bob-herbert/#comment-122247 Baklava Mon, 24 Aug 2009 01:29:40 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/22/if-obamas-lost-bob-herbert/#comment-122247 This is powerful http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/08/024350.php This is powerful

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2009/08/024350.php

]]> By: Mrs Whatsit http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/22/if-obamas-lost-bob-herbert/#comment-122239 Mrs Whatsit Sun, 23 Aug 2009 23:10:35 +0000 http://neoneocon.com/2009/08/22/if-obamas-lost-bob-herbert/#comment-122239 huxley said "I really don't know what he will do." I'll bet he doesn't, either. huxley said “I really don’t know what he will do.”

I’ll bet he doesn’t, either.

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