Been out of town for a couple of days, but goy pretty much covered the issues that were referenced regarding John McCain.

- Birthers believe that Obama is lying about a certain fact.

I’m labeled a “Birther” all the time. Despite the fact that he’s openly lied about a vast array of things, I don’t necessarily believe BHO is lying about his birth – at least as he “remembers” it (i.e., as he was told by his parents/grandparents).

The fact I DO recognize, however – and it is an undeniable fact, not mere conjecture – is that BHO has never been held to the same standard and precedent set by John McCain when his status was questioned.

In McCain’s case, the very first court to get a petition joyfully pursued it without a moment’s thought. McCain quickly produced all documentation needed to satisfy a legal panel and the entire Senate – including BHO – voted on the matter. This went smoothly and practically unnoticed by anyone because McCain happens to be white.

In BHO’s case, every court (except David Carter’s, so far) – terrified of the raaaaaaaaacist!!!! charge and thus stupefied into inaction – has sought some procedural escape from considering a case on its merits.

BHO has never publicly released probative documentation affirming his Article II eligibility to be elected POTUS. This is the inconvenient truth the left and far too many conservatives dismiss with an appeal to ridicule / ad hominem fallacy whenever they write or utter “Birther”, full well knowing that BHO’s very first Executive Order upon inauguration was to shore up the protections that hide the details of his past.

Even the State of Hawaii will not accept a printout of a jpeg image of a facsimile of an unnumbered, unsigned, sloppily composited reference to a Certificate of Live Birth – despite the fact that they have unabashedly edited their online information to protect BHO to make it appear as though they will. If you try to use something like this to contend native Hawaiian birth – for instance with the Department of Hawaiian Homelands – you’ll be required to produce a Certificate or the department will have to verify that one exists, and that the information on THAT document affirms native Hawaiian ancestry. By itself, a Certification document is not sufficient to verify the details of one’s Hawaiian birth. The notion that it should be sufficient to affirm natural born citizenship in the context of Article II is utterly and completely laughable.

If recognizing these facts makes me a “Birther”, that’s fine with me. But the moral equivalence argument that places this recognition on par with the loony notions professed by the 9/11 Truth Squad is not only offensive and irrational, it’s demonstrably racist.

There has never been any question about the location of John McCain’s birth (Panama) or that his parents were adult citizens of the United States when he was born.

The only question John McCain faced was whether ‘natural born citizen’ meant that a person had to be born in territory under US control, relative to the unusual legal status of Panama at the time of his birth.

There are questions not only about the location of Obama’s birth but also if his mother was of sufficent age to overcome his father’s Kenyan citizenship according to statutory definitions used to determine when a child is a US citizen at birth in the case when one parent is definitely not a US citizen.

It’s interesting to note that critics of ‘birthers’ often imply that the US citizenship of Obama’s mother should be sufficent to dispel any questions of his qualification but the unquestioned citizenship of John McCain’s parents is usually ignored.

To provide yet another example of why this is important as a “technical” matter – of which the document is full of, the US Constitution likewise has specific requirements regarding the Amendment process, for instance.

What if some future congress decides that *almost*, but not quite, 3/4 of the state legislatures are sufficient to pass an amendment, simply because they decide it’s popular at the moment but know they will not actually pass the magic 75% number in the end?

How far do we allow them to fudge things?

It may be a stretch, but I’m convinced this ignorance arises (where it is in good faith, not a deliberate obfuscation) out of a basic innumeracy on the part of many on the Left. They yawn at a trillion-dollar deficits and think nothing of them, but shriek like monkeys on crack over business executives getting “taxpayer-funded” million-dollar bonuses. In the U.S. economy writ large, trillions are significant, millions are rounding errors. Or to use an earlier adage, the Left is penny-wise and pound-foolish. Not grasping the difference here leads them to miss other proportional differences as well. Thoughts?

The gap between birthers and truthers is far wider than most let on. You are offering worst case scenarios for us and standard scenarios for them. Then again, that is almost what the “msm” does, so it goes.

I wouldn’t be surprised if he were born in HI. I wouldn’t be surprised if he were born in Kenya. He behaves like he was born in Kenya and trained at the side of his cousin Raile Odinga.