I don’t think there’s much more to say than that.

Good god, what a smug pompous ass you are.
If democrats cared so much about making government work, why did they spend 8 years doing everything possible to undercut the republican administration’s pursuit of terrorists and the regimes who support them after they launched the worst attack on US soil since Pearl Harbor?
Not to mention torpedoing candidates for federal judgeships on numerous occasions during that time. So much for your bi-partisanship.

We are not talking at cross purposes at all. You are either deluded or a partisan lying sack of shit, pure and simple. I am calling you on your delusions or lies, pure and simple. I don’t pretend to put on some ‘above it all’ smug facade. I know where I stand and I don’t have to play any bullshit games for cover.

You say of republicans “have yet to hear of anybody who cares about anything but bashing and trashing political opponents.”
You personify the projection of one’s own faults onto others. It was the democrats who spent the last 8 years in rabid blind partisanship, as anyone who has been even remotely conscious is aware. Right from the point of taking the 2000 election to the courts onward.

Ask yourself, if the democrats really are interested in ‘getting the work of government done’ as you say, why are they engaged in marginalizing and vilifying any and all who dare to speak against them? After all, the tea party protests are one of the purest forms of citizen protest (against both parties) in several decades. Yet they are ‘dangerous’ extremists, terrorists even. Why did democrats hide from their constituents at town hall meetings this summer? Good government?

For all your snark and smugness you really have nothing to say. You bring up one bogus example, which by the way, in the narrowly divided house and senate of the time, required a bi-partisan effort, which you so conveniently overlook.

The democrats, as they exist today, are about one thing and one thing only. Power. Getting it and keeping it. They have no underpinning philosophical views. They want power, they want loot. That’s why they are the party who practices voter fraud with such regularity. Think Franken in 2008, Gregiore in 2004 etc. The unfolding saga of the ACORN and SEIU are exposing the rottenness that is today’s democrats.

Oh, don’t get me wrong, the republicans are not in any way innocent. They share lots of the blame for the present state of affairs. Anyone who has ever bothered to read any of my comments here knows that I don’t really spare them, nor do most of the other regulars here. However, the republicans have been far more accommodating of democrats than the other way around. The simple fact that they were a minority party in the house and senate for the better part of the last half century all but insured that. Your failure to understand history or to willfully ignore it is so typical.

Most here have a view that transcends politics. It goes to the heart of what was once liberalism. Namely, clean, honest & limited government, the rights of the individual, the rule of law, the sanctity of property and contracts, freedom as articulated in the constitution and bill of rights, I’d continue but most here know what I’m talking about. Things that you would understand if you ever bothered to read Neo’s posts or the comments to them instead of being some smug juvenile bomb throwing troll.

Instead of grandstanding for the press or the party base about the judicial pedigree of the nominees they liked most or liked least, they held confirmation hearings on the least controversial candidates first. They got confirmed and the objective problem got fixed.

That is what “government” is about. And that is what the proper workings of representative government is about. It’s about minding the store. doing the dishes and getting the USA’s ordinary business done–not just bashing and trashing your political opponents.

Democrats simply do this better because they care that it gets done. On your side of the philosophical divide I have yet to hear of anybody who cares about anything but bashing and trashing political opponents. All in a good cause of course.

If you, neoneocon, or any of the other commentors here know of a conservative who actually cares about the USA’s ordinary government business more than about trashing Obama, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, ect. ect.I would love to know their name.

“I don’t know how much you remember of Congress before 1994, but it has been just about that long since representative government in this country has worked like it’s supposed to..”
Not much aobut whatever planet you seem to be talking about, but back here on earth, I remember quite well. Democrats raising taxes and trying to nationalize healthcare. Sound familar?

It took a republican majority to a) lower taxes and spark economic growth, b) force the democratic administration into some form of fiscal responsibility. Sure, there’s plenty of blame to go around on both sides, but don’t forget it was the democrats at this time who really began forcing banks to make shaky and speculative housing loans, which, well, you know what happened there.
I could go on, but I know you are probably as aware of the truth.

“Democrats do know how to govern because they actually believe in doing it..” Let me stop laughing before I go on. Perhaps you’re talking about the ‘wall’ Jamie Gorelick instituted to prevent the CIA and the FBI from talking and thus quite possibly discovering the 9/11 plot before it was executed, or were you referring to Sany Berger stuffing top secret documents down his pants, sneaking them out os a secure location and destroying them? Perhaps you were referring to Ted Kennedy secretly talking with the soviets about how to thwart a sitting US president’s plans to deploy medium range missiles in Europe after the Soviets had? Or maybe you were referring to Blagojevitch’s stellar governing of Illinois? Oh wait! MAybe it was Obama’s turning a blind eye to all the tax cheats in hi adminsitration. Perhaps it was his about face on GITMO? No, maybe his ‘smart diplomacy’ with the Russians, Iranians, Poles or India? Perhaps it was his respect for the rule of law vis a vis Honduras? Hey, how about that stimulus? Yes they know how to govern alright. The list goes on but anyone who has been following politics for the last few decades understands what a bunch of shallow, contemptable hacks and clowns that the democrats have become.

His numbers are just about where they were when they really counted–on election day. Unless he makes an obvious blunder [which he may do, no one is immune from it] they won’t fall much further. The fact that he doesn’t get flustered by setbacks and waits out the news cycle on his opponents, however, argues against any real blunders any time soon. We still remain an almost evenly divided country philosophically and I don’t expect that to change.

I don’t know how much you remember of Congress before 1994, but it has been just about that long since representative government in this country has worked like it’s supposed to. There was a short interlude between 2000-2002 when, under a slim Democratic majority, it started to do business properly again. But it slipped back to gridlock after that.

Republicans largely do not know how to govern because they really don’t believe in government. The most extraordinary thing about the Bush Administration and the Republican Congress was how little they advanced even there own agendas, despite having clear majorities in both Houses.

They simply can’t run the place right. Democrats do know how to govern because they actually believe in doing it. So a health care bill will come out of the House at about the speed it should when Congress is running properly. Another health care bill will reach the Senate floor for debate and be fillibustered. The only serious question is will the fillibuster be broken.

It won’t happen next week, but it’s not supposed to happen next week. That’s what representative government is all about. And by the time it does happen all the discourteous grandstanding in Town Meetings and all the throwing of tea bags will be gone and forgotten.

They are actually already gone and are being forgotten. Three full news cycles ago. The time to have staged them was when the bills were just about to come to the floor. But bad political tactics is also part and parcel of the illusion that the majority of Americans don’t really share opinions as extreme as yours, neoneocon’s or mine.

The advantage we have is that we know it and adjust our tactics accordingly.

Chicago Is Getting the Olympics

Some people seem to think that the president is taking time away from more important things to go to Copenhagen to lobby for Chicago to get the 2016 games. They’re wrong. He is taking time away from more important things to go get the credit for bringing the Olympics to Chicago. Does anyone seriously believe that the president would take a quick trip to Copenhagen with the possibility of coming back empty-handed? If the president is going, it’s because he knows that Chicago has already won. He’s going.

So that’s what Obama’s search for a win, any win, is reduced to. Bringing home the Olympics bacon for his machine, sweet machine, home town.

Why, Obama is off to Denmark with most of his White House entourage to help Chicago in its bid for the Olympics.

The mind boggles.

It’s true that his numbers have stabilized in the past three weeks, but look at the astonishing effort Obama put out in major personal appearances:

* Address to all schoolchildren
* Address to the Joint Houses of Congress
* Address to UN General Assembly
* Chairing UN Secretary Council
* Appearing on five Sunday talk shows
* Appearing on Letterman
* Plus numerous press conferences

Short of declaring martial law or starting his own late night talk show, Obama can’t top this, he can’t even do a fraction of this again at this rate. He played all his high cards, and he held his own, but no more.

I suspect Obama is overexposed and that the American people want to see some results, not more big white teeth flashing at them. So far, Obama is batting zero.

Unless he starts showing some wins, my bet is that his ratings resume their decline.