September 28th, 2009

Halloween comes early: the Obama mask

Watch this; it’s spooky-scary.

Obama’s fixed smile is described thusly (the nearly-fixed head position, which in my opinon is even more revealing, is not specifically mentioned):

Ladies and gentlemen, your President is a robot. Or a wax sculpture. Maybe a cardboard cutout. All I know is no human being has a photo smile this amazingly consistent.

Perhaps Obama was merely getting ready for Halloween a few weeks early, and was wearing his favorite costume: an Obama mask.

And lest you think all of this is sort of trivial, I submit that it is not. Obama is easily the most controlled president I’ve ever seen in terms of his personal style. Although supposedly cool, there is no looseness there, no moment when you think you see a glimpse into the true man in a relaxed state when he has let down his guard.

In general, politicians who would be president must exercise more public control over themselves than ordinary people. But Obama is in a class by himself in this regard; his control is more complete and therefore more eerie. Even gestures that might appear to be spontaneous (witness these) are, IMHO, carefully planned to appeal to a certain audience that “gets” it.

Some people are just naturally subdued, and I think that description fits Obama as well. But there’s much more than that going on with the demeanor of our current president. Anyone who attempts this complete a level of control is hiding something. In Obama’s case, I believe it is his essential far-Leftist self: who he is and what he means to do.

That’s the Obama mask he wears, and he cannot take it off without revealing more than he wishes us to know right now. Maybe some day.

And now let me go all literary on you and quote T.S. Eliot’s “The Love Song of J.Alfred Prufrock:”

And indeed there will be time
For the yellow smoke that slides along the street,
Rubbing its back upon the window-panes;
There will be time, there will be time
To prepare a face to meet the faces that you meet;
There will be time to murder and create,
And time for all the works and days of hands
That lift and drop a question on your plate;
Time for you and time for me,
And time yet for a hundred indecisions,
And for a hundred visions and revisions,
Before the taking of a toast and tea.

[NOTE: One of the very few people who seems to know Obama---if "know" is defined as having had a great many dealings with him before he ran for office---is Richard Epstein, a law professor at University of Chicago. The following excerpts are from an interview Epstein gave in early April of 2009 (and remember, this is from a guy who has known him personally for quite some time):

Obama has the world's most perfect human disposition. He can sit in a room with you, he can listen to you, and he can talk to you, and you really get the sense of a man who is in complete self control.

But, that's the very feature that makes him so hard to read. He is so much in self control, that if he doesn't want you to know in a conversation what he is thinking, you can be there for 30 minutes and never be able to figure out what he believes. You can only have him question you about what you believe. He keeps all of his thoughts to himself.

Robinson: So, he is like Leonard Nimoy, like Spock, the Vulcan in Star Trek.

Epstein: He basically knows how to keep that shield over his face.

Epstein also expresses little doubt about one of the questions that keeps coming up in discussions of Obama: is he an ideologue, or just a follower and/or a narcissist? From the interview:

Robinson: You are quoted in the Boston Globe, "I like Obama but I reject the suggestion that he is an intellectual. He is an activist merely mimicking the mannerisms of an intellectual." How good is Obama's mind?

Epstein: His mind is pretty good, but it is a clever "means-ends" mind. He has never written a scholarly article in his entire life...

His positions are not close to the middle, and so he sees no reason to compromise with Republicans unless and until they can mount a veto threat in the Senate. He is very, very dogmatic about his substantive positions. He knows what he believes and he knows why he believes it, and it is extremely difficult for people on the outside to change his mind.

]

[ADDENDUM: Stuart Schneiderman of "Had Enough Therapy?" adds some further reflections on Obama's mask.]

58 Responses to “Halloween comes early: the Obama mask”

  1. Artfldgr Says:

    Sociopaths copy cues from others.
    though i cant speak for all i have met a few and some of them i was able to tell in that they were copying social cues. that is, they didnt laugh first, they laughed a split second after others.

    they get good at practicing the perfect poses that convey something. so they cry when caught. they will laugh if they see the group laugh. they will feign emotions they dont have to create a reality for others who do not realize whats within reach.

    things like this mean that he practices, and he has his poses for different social situations.

    also since he loves populism (to the point of naming his daughers a certai way), he has practiced endlessly in front of a mirror to be able to turn it on.

    when i took pics of clinton at an event at carnegie hall, he was like this. he talked, and when he noticed my flash units light came on, he would turn and cut a freeze pose for the shot, the light woudl go off, and he would drop it.

    not all politicos do this… but when your with the ones that do, its odd. (and very funny)

  2. Artfldgr Says:

    Forgot to mention, some people get smiling lessons. a family freinds wife did. :)

  3. Artfldgr Says:

    All sociopaths wear a mask. The mask of kindness. The mask of generosity. The mask of romance. The mask of attraction. The mask of intimacy. The mask of seduction. And so on.

    This is what reels us in. The pretense. The acting. The mask. The mask of perfection. And we, in our infinite loving goodness, reflect that mask back to them. The perfect mirrored reflection of beauty and adoration.

    And then one day, that mask cracks. You remember the moment.. The moment when you look in their eyes and you KNOW the truth about them. The moment you recognize the pathological lies, the deception, the manipulation, the con. The game is up. And from that moment on, your relationship with the sociopath is forever changed.

    while this article is about sociopaths in romance (from a woman who could have become a man hating feminist, rather than see he had a desease)

    From that point forward, the cruelty begins. Name-calling. Shouting. Out-of-control rage. Accusations of what you have…and have not done for them. Assaults on your character. Disparaging remarks. Outright slander. Saying horrible things about you to everyone who will listen. The smear campaign begins in full force.

    Once the mask slips, you have a full view of who the sociopath actually is. Nothing is hidden from you anymore. They are the most hateful person you have ever encountered.

    I equate the mask with a coin…beautiful, golden, intricately detailed and engraved on one side, and the cheapest, molten metal, with indistinguishable or hideous features on the other.

    If you try to expose them, they will use every amount of charm and conning in their power to figuratively and verbally disarm you. (They are very good at this; they have a lifetime of practice).

    They will attempt to dissemble your character piece-by-piece. They will not allow you to confront them with the truth; it is almost as if they become fearful of you and will try to retaliate against you with every piece of personal information they have garnered about you. Oh yes, and they will project upon you the very things that they are doing (and which you are innocent of). And they will tell unimaginable lies about you…that you are vile, manipulative, conning, vindictive, lying, and of course, crazy. Some of these whoppers are so monstrous that they can even ruin relationships you’ve had with family members and close friends. Everything is your fault, and they are the victim.

    It is important to realize that just because you have seen their “true” self, they can still be extremely adept at keeping their mask intact for others. I have seen my sociopath go from screaming at me to laughing and smiling while speaking to someone on the phone…within 30 seconds. But you will most likely never see that initial charm again…unless there is something very specific they want from you.

    the left since they adopted communism, adopted rule by smart sociopaths.

    who else could do the things done in russia, cuba, china, veitnam, cambodia, laos, poland, latvia, germany, austria, czechoslovakia, hungary, and many many more?

    what it is is a bunch of sociopaths got together to come up with a system to replace the rulership of the majority (those with emotions and morals), with that of a minority, who are constantly oppressed by those others, imprisoned, and such.

    just for being waht they are!!!

    which is why they seek to use others by unlocking the fringe. but once they get total control, then they are free to act upon the people as their sociopathy desires.

    anyone care to list out the peccadillos that these guys had and indulged?

    it reads like the worst of the middle european rouality who imagined bathign in blood and torturing hnudreds in front of them for their need to feel power over others.

    a huge modern society allows for somethign that never happened before… the ability of the few to link up and become a force against the many.

    however, you can see that rather than be the future, they are our throwbacks to a more animlistic LESS social time.

    and thats why everythign they do is opposite of what they say. you would never agree to turn back the clock to the era where might and willingness to horror was a means to power.

    these are the people who willfully make stangated dark ages for their childrens dynasty. they exterminate all others so that their genes win. they have no morals to worry about or to think thats wrong. for in the real world such does not exist.

    they hate anything that limits themselves in a moral way. they believe its oppressive to stop them from finding a victim and flaying them alive! how dare society stop them!!!

    which is why they love terrorists, love thugs, and gangs and broken families. they love perversion, and such things. to them all of that is normal.

    imagine being governed by jeffry dahmer, richard speck, charles manson, but they are smart enough to facilitate not doing such criminally.

    a sociopath who beomes a phd in pscych, or in schools, or in surgery, can cause huge amounts of misery, be up close to it, and the victims would never know.

    they hate merit, because they are parasites. they hate truth and validity, and that frmo merit too, because its easier to fake it, than actually work at it.

    and multicultueralism puts freedom on equal footing with sociopathic slavery. relativism takes away our ability to call them out. and pc dont insutl or make disparagements, insures that even if you find them, you cant tell others about them.

    and on and on it goes…

    just imagine what a utopia for sociopathy would be, and you will see the true core of lenin, marx, stalin and mao… the true core of communism…

  4. Artfldgr Says:

    Imagine – if you can – not having a conscience, none at all, no feelings of guilt or remorse no matter what you do, no limiting sense of concern for the well-being of strangers, friends, or even family members. Imagine no struggles with shame, not a single one in your whole life, no matter what kind of selfish, lazy, harmful, or immoral action you had taken.

    And pretend that the concept of responsibility is unknown to you, except as a burden others seem to accept without question, like gullible fools.

    Now add to this strange fantasy the ability to conceal from other people that your psychological makeup is radically different from theirs. Since everyone simply assumes that conscience is universal among human beings, hiding the fact that you are conscience-free is nearly effortless.

    You are not held back from any of your desires by guilt or shame, and you are never confronted by others for your cold-bloodedness. The ice water in your veins is so bizarre, so completely outside of their personal experience, that they seldom even guess at your condition.

    In other words, you are completely free of internal restraints, and your unhampered liberty to do just as you please, with no pangs of conscience, is conveniently invisible to the world.

    You can do anything at all, and still your strange advantage over the majority of people, who are kept in line by their consciences will most likely remain undiscovered.

    How will you live your life?

    What will you do with your huge and secret advantage, and with the corresponding handicap of other people (conscience)?

    The answer will depend largely on just what your desires happen to be, because people are not all the same. Even the profoundly unscrupulous are not all the same. Some people – whether they have a conscience or not – favor the ease of inertia, while others are filled with dreams and wild ambitions. Some human beings are brilliant and talented, some are dull-witted, and most, conscience or not, are somewhere in between. There are violent people and nonviolent ones, individuals who are motivated by blood lust and those who have no such appetites. [...]

    Provided you are not forcibly stopped, you can do anything at all.

    If you are born at the right time, with some access to family fortune, and you have a special talent for whipping up other people’s hatred and sense of deprivation, you can arrange to kill large numbers of unsuspecting people. With enough money, you can accomplish this from far away, and you can sit back safely and watch in satisfaction. [...]

    Crazy and frightening – and real, in about 4 percent of the population….

    The prevalence rate for anorexic eating disorders is estimated a 3.43 percent, deemed to be nearly epidemic, and yet this figure is a fraction lower than the rate for antisocial personality. The high-profile disorders classed as schizophrenia occur in only about 1 percent of [the population] – a mere quarter of the rate of antisocial personality – and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention say that the rate of colon cancer in the United States, considered “alarmingly high,” is about 40 per 100,000 – one hundred times lower than the rate of antisocial personality.

    The high incidence of sociopathy in human society has a profound effect on the rest of us who must live on this planet, too, even those of us who have not been clinically traumatized. The individuals who constitute this 4 percent drain our relationships, our bank accounts, our accomplishments, our self-esteem, our very peace on earth.


    from THE PSYCHOPATH – The Mask of Sanity

    Sandra L. Brown, MA and Dr. Liane Leedom, MD, authors in the field of psychopathy are writing a book on women who love psychopaths…

    anexcerpt in the book is here
    http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/cleckley.pdf

    and one thing that is said in there where the doc is shocked, has also been said by a famous fenminist about men.

    MANY of the top in these areas are all sociopathic liars who recognize each other and now have social custom to help them.
    which is why they are going to help roman polanski.

  5. Colin Meade Says:

    Obama seems somehow empty. It’s not that he’s gone off the rails – he was never on them. I’m not a psychiatrist, but I often have this feeling that, in psychiatry, positive qualities are being attributed, when really there’s just an absence. And maybe the thing there’s an absence of is not as normal as we (over )civilised types might like to think.

    Not sure if this makes any sense, but I’ve been wanting to say it to someone who might have some ideas on it for some time…

  6. Amused Cynic » Blog Archive » The Obama smile/mask…. Says:

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  7. huxley Says:

    Obama is a fascinatiing historical individual.

    I just wish I could read about him rather than live under his presidency, which is shaping up to be the worst in American history.

    We have never had a president like Obama.

  8. neo-neocon Says:

    huxley: I’ve thought much the same myself.

    Harding is the closest, but there’s really no comparison.

  9. huxley Says:

    Harding was terrible, but in a garden-variety combination of incompetence and corruption.

    Obama is different. I still don’t think he is all that competent, but there is a method to his madness. He is settling scores with America and with whites.

  10. Artfldgr Says:

    We have never had a president like Obama.

    no, but other countries have…

    and when you start comparing that way, its not good

  11. Artfldgr Says:

    an effete leader who could froth up crowds of the young. who had the internationale played before he talked. who copied riefenstahl and lenin and others who created large events to sway others who were not there. who has school children dancing and singing about equal pay for equal work. and others taking oaths to serve him, not our country. large youth groups to be taught in camps. nationalizing the auto industry. trying to nationalize another 15% of the economy. and on and on and on.

    we have never before elected a person who wanted to destroy the system and who will break the system we put in his hands (and has a lot of help).

    we never trusted dr smith to lead the jupiter two home… :)

  12. huxley Says:

    Like Obama, Artfldgr doesn’t believe in American exceptionalism either.

  13. zhombre Says:

    A few more Republicans in Congress in 2010 and maybe his dogma will be run over by his karma.

  14. Good Ole Charlie Says:

    Somewhere I remember seeing pictures of Hitler rehearsing gestures and facial expressions in front of a mirror, just before a major speech.
    Got the same spooky feeling watching OBmammy reading from his teleprompter. Except that the teleprompter is an essential crutch for him: without the script, who knows what gesture and facial expression to use.
    And in the T. S. Eliot mood: “we are the straw men…”
    I really forget the exact words, but you get the idea.

  15. nyomythus Says:

    Obama here, that’s just a marketing reality; applies to anyone and everyone in a similar position. So??

  16. anna Says:

    there was an SNL sketch where obama goes to a halloween party dressed as obama… it was pretty funny.

  17. zfredz Says:

    Add India to the growing list of democracies (UK, Israel, Poland, Czechoslovakia and Honduras) Obama is turning his back to. The article linked below is via http://www.instapundit.com — first, this from the article:

    “There has been a remarkable absence of clarity on Mr Obama’s strategic goals. In the early months, it was easy to pretend he was making up his mind. Now, it would seem he has no mind.”

    http://www.dailypioneer.com/205327/Nightmare-presidency.html

  18. ELC Says:

    Eerie. I wonder, though, if somebody put together something like that from, say, George W. Bush, would we see the same effect?

  19. neo-neocon Says:

    zfredz: I’m way ahead of you. But thanks anyway.

  20. PCachu Says:

    Well, truth to tell, Obama’s not the only one with a, er, consistent smile. Those of you who remember YTMND will likely also recall an animated gif of Paris Hilton, composed of numerous images and snapshots, all rotated and scaled to underscore the eerie sameness of her plastic smile as its surroundings flashed from place to place to place…

    Admittedly, this isn’t the most complimentary comparison point available. But then, making the Empty Suit feel better about himself is above my pay grade.

  21. betsybounds Says:

    There’s only one thing that has me wondering how genuine this video is: Michelle has on exactly the same dress for the photo-op with each head-of-state pictured. I’d like to know how much–or how little–video manipulation went into the making of it. I agree, and have noticed myself, that his smile is always the same, along with the tilt of his head and his posture. But surely she doesn’t wear the same dress for all formal photo-ops. . . . This seems to cast a bit of doubt on the notion that his smile and carriage remain always the same! Maybe the only thing changed from one clip to the next was the “man in the middle. . . .”

  22. neo-neocon Says:

    betsybounds: They were all taken at the same UN event. See this.

  23. Bob from Virginia Says:

    I too often got the impression that Obama is running on automatic rather than analyzing. He seems to be reviewing his ideology for a scribed response; where none is available he does nothing but fudge. To try and recall a quote from Amir Taheri “sooner or later Obama will encounter a crisis he cannot fudge…” after which his inadequacies, so apparent to so many now will become undeniable to almost all.
    Hopefully before he allows the Mullahs to get the bomb or gets re-elected.
    BTW Neo-Neocon you produce more good writing and clear thinking more consistently than anyone I encountered on the internet. So nu! Why aren’t you a professional columnist, a lady Charles Krauthammer with sulfuric acid for ink.

  24. Gringo Says:

    Colin Meade
    Obama seems somehow empty. It’s not that he’s gone off the rails – he was never on them.

    Obama has long reminded me of that quip that Gertrude Stein said upon returning to her her hometown of Oakland and not recognizing anything, as it had all been built up in her absence, “There’s no there there.”

    Harding keeps coming up, I see.

  25. betsybounds Says:

    neo,

    Far out, and thanks. Well that explains it, then. Cookie-Cutter Man, in true life. Ugh.

    Again, we see that he does indeed have a gift. For the rest of us, his gift may be a curse. Stand ‘im up, push play.

  26. Richard Aubrey Says:

    To make a more homely analogy, there’s the fat-free, sugar-free, gluten-free, low-carb sugar cookie. You can eat it, but you know you’re eating solidified nothing.
    Haven’t had one of those in years, but somebody made a reference to them when I was attempting to change the channel from something showing Obama.
    Made the connection instantly.

  27. Steve G Says:

    I had some very disquieting thoughts this evening. They are from far left field but, based on how statists have acquired power in the past, should not be dismissed out of hand.

    I was reading today that 52% of those between 18 and 24 (or 26) years old are unemployed and not likely to find work in the private sector for at least two years. This cohort went very strongly for Obama in the last election. Since a major cause of unemployment, other than the recession, has been the rapid increases in the minimum wage in the last few years, and even most democrats know this, a simple means of reducing the number of unemployed youngsters is to reduce the minimum wage. But, this will not happen. Nor, I suspect, will the private sector be able to grow enough (if at all) in the next four or five years to reduce the number of unemployed if the tax code is not materially changed to induce growth in the private sector. Rather, it now appears that taxes will rise in 2010 as the Bush tax cuts expire and this will do further damage to the private sector.

    As a casual reader of history I am concerned that the democrats (could they knowingly be doing this?) are helping to create the conditions that could readily support a quiet but nonetheless effective revolution. It appears that Obama may subscribe to the right to a fair election, one time, in order to obtain and then retain power without the need for any further elections. Hugo Chavez, anyone? Our children do not know our history and are taught in our public and private schools and colleges that the U.S. is the cause of all the evil in the world. I am coming to the conclusion that the only growth that the democrats will allow to take place will be in government. As Obama clearly detests the armed forces, growth will not be on that front. Obama is now looking for a way to deny any force increases to “win” in Afghanistan. Instead, he has created a pool of soon to be very disaffected younger citizens who, in a short time, will be happy to fill Obama’s domestic army. Those who join this domestic police force will be required to sing the praises of our dear leader and will be thankful for the weekly pay they receive. So, we have to be watchful that the Congress in the next year does not pass what could become the enabling legislation that could lead to our downfall as the land of the free and the home of the brave.

    I hope I am way off base but my antennae are screaming.

  28. K Says:

    Steve G: Yes, I had the same disquieting thoughts when I saw the unemployment figures as well…

  29. CV Says:

    I think Epstein’s description of Obama’s intelligence as a “means-ends mind” is probably frighteningly on the mark.

    He seems emotionally sincere when interacting with his daughters, but that’s the only tiny crack in the tightly-controlled facade that I’ve observed.

  30. rickl Says:

    Steve G: Yep, I think you’re on target.

  31. rickl Says:

    Steve G: In fact, I’ll go you one better:

    What happens when intelligent, educated, motivated, and patriotic young people opt out of careers in the military because they don’t trust Obama’s leadership and commitment to them and their mission? What happens when recruitment and retention numbers plummet, as I believe they will?

    Will he resort to a draft, to fill the ranks of the military with surly, uneducated, unemployable young toughs who are loyal to him personally instead of to the Constitution?

  32. Perfected democrat Says:

    “Again, we see that he does indeed
    have a gift. For the rest of us,
    his gift may be a curse. Stand ‘im up,
    push play.” – It’s not for no reason
    they call him the Manchurian Candidate…

  33. strcpy Says:

    “As a casual reader of history I am concerned that the democrats (could they knowingly be doing this?) are helping to create the conditions that could readily support a quiet but nonetheless effective revolution.”

    The problem here is that they need to be incredibly smart and able to foresee the future yet so stupid as to make rookie mistakes and loose most, if not nearly all, of their support. Like a lot of theories against Bush they require them to be both the smartest people on the planet and the stupidest.

    It is MUCH more likely (and consistent) that they largely believe what they say and do is best for the US. That includes the corruption – if they believe *they* are the best thing no matter what then it follows that anything and everything that gives them power must be correct. I see more confusion and anger than anything else.

    I’ll buy that there are “hidden” leaders on both sides that are seeking to push such a thing. Or rather I’ll buy that there is some consistency there. For example, to give a right wing theory George Soros could well be selling the US down the road in order to form his own “pure” savior party. He has the money and the will to do such a thing and nothing so far has really contradicted that.

    Then again there is nothing that contradicts the the Ultra-conservative Skull-and-Bones society is seeking to crash the US markets to allow them to purchase up all the wealth, blame it on the Dems, and bathe in the glory of victory.

    In both those cases Obama and Bush were simply patsy foot soldiers who believed what they did was best for the country.

    Myself I just think that Obama is a product of our edumacational system (I refuse to call it an educational system) and doesn’t know better. Add in a talent for speaking and obfuscating what he believes to *both* sides (he hasn’t made either one happy, the only supporters he has left are ones that the “D” makes a difference) and natural intelligence that is bent on rationalizing core beliefs and you get … President of the US Obama. No real need to go further there and no evidence to do so.

    Really, as his popularity continues to dive there will come a point where the rantings about a “silver tongue” and such will not work at all. If they were that smart they would have picked a better candidate. He just happened along at the right time at the right place.

  34. Holly Says:

    I read this in the NYPost today and though it was appropriate.

    O doesn’t even listen to his own advisors, “I’m told that Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner and chief economic adviser Lawrence Summers have both complained to senior Wall Street execs that they have almost no say in major policy decisions. Obama economic counselor Paul Volcker, the former Fed chairman, is barely consulted at all on just about anything — not even issues involving the banking system, of which he is among the world’s leading authorities.

    At most, the economic people and their staffs get asked to do cost analyses of Obama’s initiatives for the White House political people — who then ignore their advice.”

  35. Steve Says:

    To me his affect and demeanor is that of a muslim.

  36. Artfldgr Says:

    Like Obama, Artfldgr doesn’t believe in American exceptionalism either.

    I never said that… i just dont think its magical manna that solves every problem. especially when the exceptional ones have been aborting themselves and removing their contribution while being replaced by a huge influx of foreiners to the tune of almost 1/5th.

    American Exceptionalism was never a religion where we relied on american exceptionalism. it was always what we DID, not what we called it. if we cand DO, we then have lost what powered it.

    When the Exceptional americans are labeled as rigth wing nazis, that their protesting may be made illegal, and that the left has already created false events to blame them (but got caught).

    Where was american exceptionalism when we lost control of the schools to the state and centralized it? (dewey was a spy).

    Where was american exceptionalism when the leader of the CPUSA was elected as president of the teachers union? (bella Dodd)

    where was american exceptionalism when she recanted and confessed as to all the stuff she did?
    (school of darkness)

    where was american exceptionalism when we institutionalised communism/socialism?

    where was it when we started to experiment on our own people calling it social engineering?

    the era of alexis de toqueville and the judeo christian ethos of america.

    shall i list out the attacks on church, religion, the very termite attacks for 70 years on the basis of american exceptionalism?

    american exceptionalism caught a desease in the early america under wallace… tht desease has festered since then. it has allowed unconstitutioanal things to be embedded and turned the constitution into a article of convenience.

    when stalin said this
    “America is like a healthy body and its resistance is threefold:
    its patriotism, its morality, and its spiritual life.
    If we can undermine these three areas,
    America will collapse from within.”

    and so they set out to undermine that. set out to destroy pax americana. set out to rot out the core of what american exceptionalism.

    your VERY insulting in what you say. because you dont know what american exceptionalism is about. you dont know why when my family was being tortured, we wanted to be here. we WANTED to be here. we LOVED american exceptionalism

    you dont get that…

    you dont get that my urgency and everything else is all about the oppisite of waht you just said!

    that you have no idea how to get back to that exceptionalism because you still think we have it.

    but its why my granfather came here from czech.. why my grandmother came here from Slovakia. why my father and his family came from latvia. its why my uncle came from poland. my wife now marrying me to come from indonesia after arriving years ago from china.

    i have such curses for you and your flippant comments.

    in the revolutionary war that started america, there were a lot of people like you. they nearly cost us this great country.

    where is americans patriotism?
    they are afraid to show it for fear the communists and others will hurt them in some way. that they are not going to be PC. that they are going to be seen as nationalist nazis. as they dont knw that nazi meant natinoalizers.

    where is americans morality?
    in another thread we have czars talking about forced abortios, euthanasia, eugenics. we have one who thinks that protecting kids is to aks if they use a condom when they pick up men in the bathrooms of bus stations. we have kinsey and his sexualization of children.

    and where is its spiritual life?
    where is its judeo christian work ethos? where is the AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM that refused to accept welfare? refuse to accept a hand out? where is the freedom to earn a bit of cash working for each other and not be forbidden as its too small?

    Obama is here to murder off the last bit of american exceptionalism.

    and i want it to be saved.

    you dont… and so you project on me that i have written it off?

    no… but you cant save a patient if you have no will to accept the reality of its demise.

    when my aunt was dying, no one would tell her. I had to sit there in the room and tell her she was dying. her husband, believed she would come home, and behaved that way and denied himself the time to be with her, and her time with him.

    he didnt beleive the patient was terminal and on the table, and so he didnt act.

    you dont belive the patient is terminal. on its last legs. you fantasize that some cavalry like in the movies will save us. you forget WE ARE THE CALVARY…

    your so insulting sometimes…

    so much so, your so leftist behaving and dont see it. you act just like the liberals who say its their way or no way, and then use their social cache to alienate the john galts and those who could help.

    lets have a survey!!!!
    who do you think could help more?

    a person with experience dealing with this, and knowlegeable of the history, methodology, and more?

    or, a person with very little of that knowlege, and inability to see whats there. who cherry picks facts to eradicate things like state games. only knows the forward history. and is supremely confident that if we relax and are reasonable, things will straighten themselves out on their own.

    American exceptionalism is terminal.
    obama is pulling the plug.
    and you cant save a dead something once you let it die due to false assumptions.

  37. Artfldgr Says:

    that should never have been all bolded… SORRY

    strcpy,
    I was reading today that 52% of those between 18 and 24 (or 26) years old are unemployed and not likely to find work in the private sector for at least two years.

    your right… this is important.. because it was thsi same disaffection that created the jugend force for hitler.

    Since a major cause of unemployment, other than the recession, has been the rapid increases in the minimum wage in the last few years, and even most democrats know this, a simple means of reducing the number of unemployed youngsters is to reduce the minimum wage.

    well yeah.. minimum wage has no place in a free economy. its purpose is to slowly force equal pay for equal work. by raising this, they prevent anything below it from being done.

    however, the moment they make everyones salary the same for all work, what happens to this unemployment factory? well, they then get 100% employment, and you go to jail for not complying.
    this was how it was done in the soviet union.

    however no one here knows HOW things were done. they convuse WHAT with HOW. they confuse examples to illustrate how, with tin hat telling WHAT will happen. they do not realize that in the absence of other examples, these things are the only common speaking ground.

    everyone else is trying to figure obama out. they dont realize that he is an ideologue just following ideollgy. and since he is doign that, you have to know the ideology, its REAL goals, and so on, including methods to know.

    so what is happening is that everyone is rejecting the conclusion, ESPECIALLY HUXLEY.

    that is an effort to preserve their reality.
    they do not know that we have passed the horizon point and that reality is OVER.

    there is a chance of recovering, but not to the same point. its a ratchet, and unless you can remove the pins of the ratchet. you cant reverse any of it.

    soon the pins are going to be welded into place by mass immigration. they are almost welded.

    As a casual reader of history I am concerned that the democrats (could they knowingly be doing this?) are helping to create the conditions that could readily support a quiet but nonetheless effective revolution.

    yes they know… but they dont know details. they are and have been fed what to do!!!!!!!!!!!! many of them have ‘handlers’. some we even know their code names. but since communism is not illegal…

    this is a process.
    the process is designed to leverage things
    a key fulcrum are people like huxley

    they rely on such to calm the masses and damp down their ability to reject things early.

    note that we are way past easy. that my message has been unchanged even before obama appeared! that, if such wild claims were not normalized by the lefts FALSE labeling bush, we would accept this stuff easier. we would have mobilized BEFORE The election… we would have protested that we didnt liek any candidate!!!!

    but how could we? huxleys were still doing their natural job of calming the waters. when ayers was an issue.. it was the reasonable that said.. oh, he cant be the same… when it was the rev. huxleys sad, it doesnt mean anything.

    like baking soda added to vinegar, he nutralized all the sour stuff, and then leaves nothing but endless discussion. with his main aim to block any information they think is too wild.

    to them, too wild is a schema to validate things. a short cut. but the problem is that totalitarianism is too wild in all it wants, proposes, does and acquires. so in essence, the big bold move is never prevented.

    too many huxleys neutralizing the acids of
    discontent.

    Instead, he has created a pool of soon to be very disaffected younger citizens who, in a short time, will be happy to fill Obama’s domestic army.

    well, you are reciting EXACTLY how hitler did it. the war and hyperinflation created a situation where the young were assumed to be better off than the older men. and so the young became disaffected. they became a problem.

    like the young kids that beat to death another kid yesteday. or the one that was murdered on the steps being stabbed for bumping into someone.

    so what will happen is that the society will accept this as a means of stopping THAT trouble.

    and yet no one notices that this is by design. that this is a slow process where a law pushes somethign to ba bad place, and then rather than remove the law, use that as a foundation for more action. just like in chess. (soviets loved chess – i ahve spent many many many a day in my youth playing soviets at chess and then havign them try to warp my ideas as i was busy concentrating and more open to suggestion).

    I hope I am way off base but my antennae are screaming.

    talk to huxley. he will tell you why to turn the alarm off. that way you dont hear the sirens.

  38. Steve G Says:

    rickl,
    I agree with your point entirely and believe that the damage is already done.

    Every day that Obama delays a decision on the strategy he plans to adopt for winning (or more likely, losing) in Afghanistan is another day where he demonstrates his absolute lack of interest in the well being of those we put in harm’s way. (If I remember, Obama criticized Bush for Bush’s failure to focus on Afghanstan, the site of the real war, and how his wonderful Afghanistan strategy would win the war on terror. We now learn Obama’s vaunted strategy was nonexistent.) I wonder if he will ever even meet with General McChrystal (sp?) and adopt any form of strategy. Yesterday, Rush had some heart rending calls from parents and grandparents of military men and women now serving or soon to be posted to Afghanistan who were frightened about what they perceive is the added danger to their children caused by Obama’s lack of firm direction on the war. Although I firmly believe that we must win in Afghanistan, in my opinion the rest of the world has taken Obama’s measure and know he has no stomach for the fight (or any fight). Keeping our best and brightest in harm’s way while this pissant dallies over how to bring the 2016 Olympics to Chicago demeans their dedicated service to our country. My disdain for his failure to focus on protecting the country is beyond words. (And, Hillary is just behind him, looking over his shoulder and mimicking his words.)

    What I can’t fathom is how Obama continues to maintain his personal popularity at over 50%.

  39. Baklava Says:

    http://tammybruce.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/obamaghadafi-300×200.jpg

    Must’ve used Lysol or Germx after that… didn’t he???

  40. Baklava Says:

    Sorry. That was a photo of Obama shaking Qadafi’s hand. (sorry if the spelling is incorrect.)

  41. Thomass Says:

    “Anyone who attempts this complete a level of control is hiding something. In Obama’s case, I believe it is his essential far-Leftist self: who he is and what he means to do.”

    Could be the personality disorder thing. Narcissists and schizoids feel so disconnected from themselves that they have to self consciously go through the motions of acting normal. It comes across just like this… robotic to the trained eye. A lot of Kafka stories explain what I’m describing from the inside. A Report to the Academy is a good one about this trying to act normal because it does not come naturally. I’d also add, these personality types tend to be attracted to extremist politics.

  42. Thomass Says:

    Colin Meade Says:

    “Not sure if this makes any sense, but I’ve been wanting to say it to someone who might have some ideas on it for some time…”

    I think I get it. Many of the dichotomies and other cultural memes we are unconsciously trained to use to judge some parts of personality are flawed… and from there it is garbage in / garbage out.

    Example. We called people who couldn’t sit still and focus ‘hyperactive’ because that is where our culture lead people to… when judging their behavior. This lead to the next step, people to think to use downers or depressants. But the reality was pretty different and now it is treated (with greater success) with stimulants…

    Once we get into personality traits, we have similar problems that our notions of what is good and bad or productive or not et cetera… are probably wrong. Even the concept of a linier good bad scale is cultural… and with personality traits probably a flawed measure.

  43. huxley Says:

    It appears that Obama may subscribe to the right to a fair election, one time, in order to obtain and then retain power without the need for any further elections. Hugo Chavez, anyone?

    How many here really believe that a president who can’t get health care reform passed while his party holds decisive majorities in both Houses, will be able to get a bill passed abolishing elections so Obama can rule indefinitely?

  44. huxley Says:

    The young are already turning against Obama. He has suffered the largest drop — 17% — in approval ratings with their demographic.

    I predict that as the young grow older and realize that not only have their job prospects suffered but their ability to accumulate wealth has been blighted by taxes, entitlements and regulations, that they will swing hard and nasty against the Democratic Party.

  45. Baklava Says:

    Hope so Huxley. I’m along your line of thinking mostly…

    It is because we have a free press that leftists are threatened in future elections though.

    Some stuff doesn’t have to get through Congress.

    Some stuff is done to Americans in schools, CNN, by virtue of census and junk.

    Obama cannot do a Hugo Chavez or Zelaya move even if he wanted to.

    That is why it is so nice to see individuals changing their minds about this man and the Democrat party despite the school and CNN propoganda.

    The idiots I talk to don’t necessarily move towards conservatives though because they BELIEVE that conservatives are racists as evidenced by blacks not voting for conservatives.

    We have a LOT of educating to do.

  46. Ymarsakar Says:

    Like Obama, Artfldgr doesn’t believe in American exceptionalism either.

    Believing that American exceptionalism makes people immune to human nature, is delusional. Don’t slur American exceptionalism with delusion.

  47. Ymarsakar Says:

    Art, you should read the Narcissism blog.

    Personal encounters and wisdom distilled of all kinds of narcissists

  48. Ymarsakar Says:

    Obama is now looking for a way to deny any force increases to “win” in Afghanistan. Instead, he has created a pool of soon to be very disaffected younger citizens who, in a short time, will be happy to fill Obama’s domestic army.

    A substantial threat analysis. Whether it becomes true or not, remains to be seen, but your methodology looks sound. Thinking outside the box is usually better than being a trained lapdog reacting to Obama advances or whatever else the news cycle decides to talk about.

    In fights, the guy that is always reacting isn’t at the same time attacking. THus they have an OODA disadvantage. Not a good thing if you want to win a fight.

  49. Ymarsakar Says:

    Will he resort to a draft, to fill the ranks of the military with surly, uneducated, unemployable young toughs who are loyal to him personally instead of to the Constitution?

    Part of American exceptionalism is that people even ask these kinds of questions. Instead of bending over and grabbing their ankles, they are using reason, as Ayn Rand herself defined it, to think, to plan, and to create contingencies. They aren’t just Woodstock people who sit around waiting for somebody else to give them medicine, food, water, and shelter while they hit the Bong for the 99th time.

    If I was Obama or somebody he trusted for the real deal, like Valerie, I would tell him to avoid the military. THey are limited by both institutional safeguards (the Old Guard), the oath to protect the COnstitution, as well as posse comitatus.

    Those things are better avoided. Instead, creating an army in the mold of ACORN organization can result in a stealth organization. You don’t need an army. You just need an organization that has a chain of command that will do what you tell them to do. Obama doesn’t need to send people into the US military for that. As evidenced by ACORN, they have already produced the kind of organization required. And Unions like SEIU have even taken that a step further into the physicality realm.

  50. neo-neocon Says:

    huxley: I think we need to be careful in drawing conclusions from drops in Obama’s approval ratings. Some people disapprove because they find him too radical. But some disapprove because either he’s not radical enough, or he’s so far been ineffective in pushing the most radical legislation and getting it passed. I’m not sure which reason accounts most for the drop in his approval among the young.

  51. Jim Miller Says:

    neo – Thanks much for this post (which I just linked to).

    Let me add just one point: His smile should vary with the person he is posing with, and — in every case — he is grinning triumphantly, when he should be smiling diplomatically.

  52. Bob from Virginia Says:

    Obama is making at least some of us, like me, paranoid. I cannot grasp how he manages to have a 50% approval rate.
    They must be doing something to the water.

  53. Oblio Says:

    I cannot grasp how he manages to have a 50% approval rate.

    Bradley Effect.

  54. Artfldgr Says:

    THey are limited by both institutional safeguards (the Old Guard), the oath to protect the COnstitution, as well as posse comitatus.

    There are a number of situations in which the Act does not apply. These include:

    National Guard units while under the authority of the governor of a state;

    Troops used under the order of the President of the United States pursuant to the Insurrection Act, as was the case during the 1992 Los Angeles Riots.

    Under 18 U.S.C. § 831, the Attorney General may request that the Secretary of Defense provide emergency assistance if civilian law enforcement is inadequate to address certain types of threats involving the release of nuclear materials, such as potential use of a nuclear or radiological weapon. Such assistance may be by any personnel under the authority of the Department of Defense, provided such assistance does not adversely affect U.S. military preparedness.

    so if we go at each other in response to such policies as you say are not convenient, they becoem VERY convenient.

    as i said, they need US to act…
    we do the work, they just set up conditions.

    like spending years putting dominoes in place.
    then tricking someone into hitting the first ones
    and then waiting to collet way way way at the end where they will end up.

    everyone else will be reacting…

    ie, they are in our OODA loop… and i cant get this across because the informatino is way to voluminous. if youc an write a 10 page paper on a fold in a protien, how could i cover every objection and point that is in somones mind in a few paragraphs?

  55. Artfldgr Says:

    i have not confirmed this…
    enjoy!!

    http://www.whoisjohngalt.com/2009/09/the-marked-card.html

    the marked card
    Card sharks check a deck of playing cards for marking by flipping them. Every card’s back is supposed to be exactly the same, and any marked cards appear as “animation” if you flip through the deck.

    Not looking for anything particular, I was looping that stupid video of Obama’s consistent smile, when I noticed, well, one smile is a little different. Right click on the video to turn on looping, and watch the fold on Obama’s left cheek. It’s there.

    So, I was wondering who this person was, who elicited less of a smile than everyone else. Probably some coincidence — maybe an an ambassador from Outer Mongolia or some third-world no-place, right?

    But then I looked up that particular picture here, on the State Department’s flickr page. And, if you look at it closely, Obama really does smile differently for one person. And, it turns out, that person is not some “nobody.” I’ll be damned — it’s someone relevant.

  56. Evil & Formation » The Anchoress | A First Things Blog Says:

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  57. Evil & Formation » The Anchoress | A First Things Blog Says:

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  58. come to 2016rio Says:

    come to 2016rio…

    [...]neo-neocon » Blog Archive » Halloween comes early: the Obama mask[...]…

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