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	<title>Comments on: I was going to write about the Polanski arrest&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: Artfldgr</title>
		<link>http://neoneocon.com/2009/09/28/i-was-going-to-write-about-the-polanski-arrest/#comment-127419</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good stuff ymar... 

though i think the hollywood thing fails since the state cant keep the ideology out and the movies become so predictable. like now all they are doing is remaking past flicks with a new realism to them, or mashing together things, kind of blending up culture in a blender. to the older people its interesting, to the younger it fouls up their learning of the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good stuff ymar&#8230; </p>
<p>though i think the hollywood thing fails since the state cant keep the ideology out and the movies become so predictable. like now all they are doing is remaking past flicks with a new realism to them, or mashing together things, kind of blending up culture in a blender. to the older people its interesting, to the younger it fouls up their learning of the past.</p>
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		<title>By: Ymarsakar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ymarsakar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with the Soviets was that they had the power to repress people and destroy competition, but couldn&#039;t really replace it with something people would die for. So their system rotted from the inside out.

But once you combine sex and selfish pleasures, ala Hollywood, you can indeed create a socialist and communist totalitarian system where people are happy. Or at least, happy to be slaves rather than free men and women.

Of course, that probably wouldn&#039;t last very long. As sexual liberation itself simply destroys itself once it achieves its goals.

One of the best ways to psychologically render someone incapable of defense is to simply bombard them with surprise after surprise. ACORN was looking, if not good, at least viable after the first video. They were on damage control, starting up the dirt quest on the film makers, and making all kinds of innocent charges. THen came the second video.

The third video.

The fourth video.

The fifth video.

By that time, ACORN had been effectively decapitated, if one will accept a Mexican gang war analogy (where some thugs youtubed the severed heads of their competitors).

The same is with Polansky and Tookie and Saddam. Once you hang em, with the noose, it&#039;s like the ultimate shock therapy. They&#039;ve created endless defenses of such people, and so long as they think it is worth something, they&#039;ll keep doing it. But once Tookie was dead, once Saddam was dead, you don&#039;t hear jack anymore

That&#039;s cause the dead can&#039;t be resurrected by propaganda and alies, and the Left knows this very well.

Kill Polansky while the Left are doing their best to defend them, and you will show the Left how ineffectual their methods are. How utterly helpless they are. THey become demoralized. They become less prone to doing something like it in the future. They also, as a personal byproduct, may refuse to support child prostitution or exploitation, even though they had gotten money from it in the past.

One of the reasons why I like executions, though not necessarily the legal Death Penalty, is that it is so psychological traumatizing to those that have done everything to attempt to stop it. It makes them feel so helpless, and it grinds their face in the agony of defeat just a little bit more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with the Soviets was that they had the power to repress people and destroy competition, but couldn&#8217;t really replace it with something people would die for. So their system rotted from the inside out.</p>
<p>But once you combine sex and selfish pleasures, ala Hollywood, you can indeed create a socialist and communist totalitarian system where people are happy. Or at least, happy to be slaves rather than free men and women.</p>
<p>Of course, that probably wouldn&#8217;t last very long. As sexual liberation itself simply destroys itself once it achieves its goals.</p>
<p>One of the best ways to psychologically render someone incapable of defense is to simply bombard them with surprise after surprise. ACORN was looking, if not good, at least viable after the first video. They were on damage control, starting up the dirt quest on the film makers, and making all kinds of innocent charges. THen came the second video.</p>
<p>The third video.</p>
<p>The fourth video.</p>
<p>The fifth video.</p>
<p>By that time, ACORN had been effectively decapitated, if one will accept a Mexican gang war analogy (where some thugs youtubed the severed heads of their competitors).</p>
<p>The same is with Polansky and Tookie and Saddam. Once you hang em, with the noose, it&#8217;s like the ultimate shock therapy. They&#8217;ve created endless defenses of such people, and so long as they think it is worth something, they&#8217;ll keep doing it. But once Tookie was dead, once Saddam was dead, you don&#8217;t hear jack anymore</p>
<p>That&#8217;s cause the dead can&#8217;t be resurrected by propaganda and alies, and the Left knows this very well.</p>
<p>Kill Polansky while the Left are doing their best to defend them, and you will show the Left how ineffectual their methods are. How utterly helpless they are. THey become demoralized. They become less prone to doing something like it in the future. They also, as a personal byproduct, may refuse to support child prostitution or exploitation, even though they had gotten money from it in the past.</p>
<p>One of the reasons why I like executions, though not necessarily the legal Death Penalty, is that it is so psychological traumatizing to those that have done everything to attempt to stop it. It makes them feel so helpless, and it grinds their face in the agony of defeat just a little bit more.</p>
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		<title>By: Scottie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scottie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Polanski did the deed, admitted guilt to the deed, had his noggin checked by *experts* and was deemed to have known what he was doing when he was doing the deed - which was basically to get a little girl to ingest alcohol and drugs so he could sexually molest in various ways a 13 year old child - and people have an issue with sending this sack of BLEEEEEEEP to prison?

If he was willing to go to this much trouble to plan this act, it makes me wonder what else he has done that we don&#039;t know about!

The fact there are actually a-holes defending this jerk leaves me wondering what THEY are doing!

He should rot in jail for life!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Polanski did the deed, admitted guilt to the deed, had his noggin checked by *experts* and was deemed to have known what he was doing when he was doing the deed &#8211; which was basically to get a little girl to ingest alcohol and drugs so he could sexually molest in various ways a 13 year old child &#8211; and people have an issue with sending this sack of BLEEEEEEEP to prison?</p>
<p>If he was willing to go to this much trouble to plan this act, it makes me wonder what else he has done that we don&#8217;t know about!</p>
<p>The fact there are actually a-holes defending this jerk leaves me wondering what THEY are doing!</p>
<p>He should rot in jail for life!</p>
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		<title>By: Artfldgr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artfldgr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Introduction to Second Edition Moral Meltdown: The
Core Of Globalism
www.voncampe.com/pdf/IntroductiontoSecondEditionMoralMeltdown.pdf

does any of this sound familiar

We still enjoy some freedom and some democracy but there are no free countries.
America has turned her back on God and her calling, and follows false gods.
Communism is not dead, on the contrary, it is stronger than ever. But because their
philosophy has become the dominant force in America and in all Western nations
Communist leaders - in spite of their criminal records - can blend into our
societies, label themselves ex-Communists and pretend to be peace seeking
democrats. They are as committed as always to the destruction of what freedom we
retain. Western leaders - blind, their agents or fellow travelers - take them at face
value and ordinary people are only too glad to accept the deception so that they can
continue to concentrate on self.

&lt;i&gt;Hegel, Marx, Engels, Hitler came out of Germany - a record no German can be
proud about. But to these men, unfortunately, we have to add the Marxists of the
Frankfurt School with their principal ideologists Herbert Marcuse, Max
Horckheimer, Jurgen Habermas and Theodor W. Adorno. They in turn were
inspired by Italian communist Antonio Gramsci. Their strategy to destroy free
society and establish a socialist - read: totalitarian - system of government
consisted of extending the enemy list to all civil and cultural institutions of
Western society such as schools, universities, the family, the church, foundations,
and others. They abandoned the Marxist/Leninist revolutionary concept of taking
over government from outside, by force if necessary, in favor of a new
methodology: taking over from inside the media and other social and political
institutions, destroying the morals of the people, penetrating their minds, and
disconnecting them from their traditions. All of it was aimed at generating forces
from within that will culminate in the destruction of the existing social order. The
penetration of the education system by this concept of immorality is the most
devastating consequence of this ruthless assault on society.
Under the current psycho-political regime of the Frankfurt School, everyone who
is supportive of free society, especially the white male, has replaced what classic
Marxists used to call the &quot;class enemy&quot;. Labels like &quot;prejudice,&quot; &quot;bigotry&quot;, &quot;racism
and anti-Semitism&quot; &quot;sexism&quot; are being attached to them. The principal enemies of
free America therefore are in the first place American compatriots who subscribe
to the above philosophy. They are the people who ally themselves with an
international network of like-minded foreigners such as the bureaucrats of the
United Nations and who open the doors to deadly enemies such as Communist
China and Soviet Russia.&lt;/i&gt;

sigh...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Introduction to Second Edition Moral Meltdown: The<br />
Core Of Globalism<br />
<a href="http://www.voncampe.com/pdf/IntroductiontoSecondEditionMoralMeltdown.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.voncampe.com/pdf/IntroductiontoSecondEditionMoralMeltdown.pdf</a></p>
<p>does any of this sound familiar</p>
<p>We still enjoy some freedom and some democracy but there are no free countries.<br />
America has turned her back on God and her calling, and follows false gods.<br />
Communism is not dead, on the contrary, it is stronger than ever. But because their<br />
philosophy has become the dominant force in America and in all Western nations<br />
Communist leaders &#8211; in spite of their criminal records &#8211; can blend into our<br />
societies, label themselves ex-Communists and pretend to be peace seeking<br />
democrats. They are as committed as always to the destruction of what freedom we<br />
retain. Western leaders &#8211; blind, their agents or fellow travelers &#8211; take them at face<br />
value and ordinary people are only too glad to accept the deception so that they can<br />
continue to concentrate on self.</p>
<p><i>Hegel, Marx, Engels, Hitler came out of Germany &#8211; a record no German can be<br />
proud about. But to these men, unfortunately, we have to add the Marxists of the<br />
Frankfurt School with their principal ideologists Herbert Marcuse, Max<br />
Horckheimer, Jurgen Habermas and Theodor W. Adorno. They in turn were<br />
inspired by Italian communist Antonio Gramsci. Their strategy to destroy free<br />
society and establish a socialist &#8211; read: totalitarian &#8211; system of government<br />
consisted of extending the enemy list to all civil and cultural institutions of<br />
Western society such as schools, universities, the family, the church, foundations,<br />
and others. They abandoned the Marxist/Leninist revolutionary concept of taking<br />
over government from outside, by force if necessary, in favor of a new<br />
methodology: taking over from inside the media and other social and political<br />
institutions, destroying the morals of the people, penetrating their minds, and<br />
disconnecting them from their traditions. All of it was aimed at generating forces<br />
from within that will culminate in the destruction of the existing social order. The<br />
penetration of the education system by this concept of immorality is the most<br />
devastating consequence of this ruthless assault on society.<br />
Under the current psycho-political regime of the Frankfurt School, everyone who<br />
is supportive of free society, especially the white male, has replaced what classic<br />
Marxists used to call the &#8220;class enemy&#8221;. Labels like &#8220;prejudice,&#8221; &#8220;bigotry&#8221;, &#8220;racism<br />
and anti-Semitism&#8221; &#8220;sexism&#8221; are being attached to them. The principal enemies of<br />
free America therefore are in the first place American compatriots who subscribe<br />
to the above philosophy. They are the people who ally themselves with an<br />
international network of like-minded foreigners such as the bureaucrats of the<br />
United Nations and who open the doors to deadly enemies such as Communist<br />
China and Soviet Russia.</i></p>
<p>sigh&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Artfldgr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artfldgr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 19:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moral Meltdown: The Core Of Globalism

Moral Meltdown uncovers the truth about the assault on free society. It explains the close connection between personal life-style, and national and international politics. It reveals what international Socialism has done to society and what we have to expect in the future. It not only makes clear why freedom is gradually being eroded, but it gives an answer to the question of what to do about it.

If you wondered whether or not Communism is really dead; if you want to know what Adolf Hitler&#039;s minister of propaganda, Joseph Goebbels, the KGB’s misinformation department, and Peter Jennings have in common; if you want to witness how the ACLU is actively perpetuating Nazi and Communist philosophies; if you want to learn whether it&#039;s Pinochet or Allende who led Chile to greater freedom, prosperity and democracy; if you are interested in the reality of Mexico; if you think that Mandela is a democrat; if you want to know what the greatest weakness in American foreign policy is right from the mouth of Andrei Gromyko; and above all, if the future of your country and the world and the well-being of its future generations mean enough to you to discover these truths, then you must read Hilmar von Campe&#039;s Moral Meltdown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moral Meltdown: The Core Of Globalism</p>
<p>Moral Meltdown uncovers the truth about the assault on free society. It explains the close connection between personal life-style, and national and international politics. It reveals what international Socialism has done to society and what we have to expect in the future. It not only makes clear why freedom is gradually being eroded, but it gives an answer to the question of what to do about it.</p>
<p>If you wondered whether or not Communism is really dead; if you want to know what Adolf Hitler&#8217;s minister of propaganda, Joseph Goebbels, the KGB’s misinformation department, and Peter Jennings have in common; if you want to witness how the ACLU is actively perpetuating Nazi and Communist philosophies; if you want to learn whether it&#8217;s Pinochet or Allende who led Chile to greater freedom, prosperity and democracy; if you are interested in the reality of Mexico; if you think that Mandela is a democrat; if you want to know what the greatest weakness in American foreign policy is right from the mouth of Andrei Gromyko; and above all, if the future of your country and the world and the well-being of its future generations mean enough to you to discover these truths, then you must read Hilmar von Campe&#8217;s Moral Meltdown.</p>
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		<title>By: Artfldgr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artfldgr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UGLIER... 

imagine hitler and stalin with the current US arsenal and the electronics and population control potential...  

The Banking System Is Insolvent
http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1476-The-Banking-System-Is-Insolvent.html

and laffer with the money printing curve. 

anyone want to compare whats happened since obama, with the last paragraph above? 

nationalized industry
camps
youth groups like jugend or nashi

in chess, the huxleys lose cause they cant see the schemes arrayed around them as they are not evident until they CONVERGE. 

and dont forget world bank is now saying lets eliminate the dollar 



&lt;i&gt;To Artfldgr: You are one heck of an online researcher!&lt;/i&gt;

thanks!

but i had to know it already to know that i can find it. that is, finding things are easy when you know what your looking for. 





but to those who are gettign paranoid.. 
be steady...  
its not sometrhing to be paranoid about...

its how history and life has always been

and if your paranoid and you think this is something unsual. well then, you havent been living in reality. 

in the words of the founder of Intel said:

Only the paranoid survive


** and as an interesting aside.. hitler may still be alive, or his followers.  the skill fragment was from a woman...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UGLIER&#8230; </p>
<p>imagine hitler and stalin with the current US arsenal and the electronics and population control potential&#8230;  </p>
<p>The Banking System Is Insolvent<br />
<a href="http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1476-The-Banking-System-Is-Insolvent.html" rel="nofollow">http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1476-The-Banking-System-Is-Insolvent.html</a></p>
<p>and laffer with the money printing curve. </p>
<p>anyone want to compare whats happened since obama, with the last paragraph above? </p>
<p>nationalized industry<br />
camps<br />
youth groups like jugend or nashi</p>
<p>in chess, the huxleys lose cause they cant see the schemes arrayed around them as they are not evident until they CONVERGE. </p>
<p>and dont forget world bank is now saying lets eliminate the dollar </p>
<p><i>To Artfldgr: You are one heck of an online researcher!</i></p>
<p>thanks!</p>
<p>but i had to know it already to know that i can find it. that is, finding things are easy when you know what your looking for. </p>
<p>but to those who are gettign paranoid..<br />
be steady&#8230;<br />
its not sometrhing to be paranoid about&#8230;</p>
<p>its how history and life has always been</p>
<p>and if your paranoid and you think this is something unsual. well then, you havent been living in reality. </p>
<p>in the words of the founder of Intel said:</p>
<p>Only the paranoid survive</p>
<p>** and as an interesting aside.. hitler may still be alive, or his followers.  the skill fragment was from a woman&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To jon baker: in my book, forgiveness can be granted ONLY when it is sought by the potential forgivee.

To Artfldgr: You are one heck of an online researcher!

Almost all of us here are extrapolators; taking points of present and historical evidence, collating them as clusters of bloggers, seeing where extrapolation into the future takes us....and it looks damn ugly, as ugly as before Artfldgr and I were born.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To jon baker: in my book, forgiveness can be granted ONLY when it is sought by the potential forgivee.</p>
<p>To Artfldgr: You are one heck of an online researcher!</p>
<p>Almost all of us here are extrapolators; taking points of present and historical evidence, collating them as clusters of bloggers, seeing where extrapolation into the future takes us&#8230;.and it looks damn ugly, as ugly as before Artfldgr and I were born.</p>
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		<title>By: Artfldgr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artfldgr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:37:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;THE WORLDWIDE COMMUNIST FEDERATION (should they succeed…taken from Golitsyn’s book New Lies For Old, 1984) 

‘Integration of the Communist Bloc would follow the lines envisaged by Lenin when the Third Communist International was founded. That is to say, the Soviet Union and China would not absorb one another or other Communist states. All the countries of the European and Asiatic Communist zones, together with new Communist states in Europe and the Third World, would join a supranational economic and political Communist federation (this is precisely what the Soviets have in mind for the impending EU collective—TTS). Soviet-Albanian, Soviet-Yugoslav, and Soviet-Romanian disputes and ‘differences’ would be resolved in the wake, or possibly in advance of, Sino-Soviet reconciliation (Golitsyn goes to great lengths in previous chapters to show how the split between the Soviets and the Chinese was completely healed immediately after Stalin’s death…however, they continued the illusion of a split to dupe the West into backing alternating sides, depending on circumstances—TTS). The political, economic, military, diplomatic, and ideological cooperation between all the Communist states, at present partially concealed, would become clearly visible. There might even be public acknowledgment that the splits and disputes were long-term disinformation operations that had successfully deceived the “imperialist” powers. The effect on Western morale can be imagined’ (the Soviets have employed this tactic on numerous occasions—TTS). 

‘In the new worldwide Communist federation the present different brands of Communism would disappear, to be replaced by a uniform, rigorous brand of Leninism. The process would be painful. Concessions made in the name of economic and political reform would be withdrawn. Religious and intellectual dissent would be suppressed. Nationalism and all other forms of genuine oppositions would be crushed. Those who had taken advantage of détente to establish friendly Western contacts would be rebuked or persecuted like those Soviet officers who worked with the Allies during the Second World War. In new Communist states—for example, in France, Italy, and the Third World—the “alienated classes” would be reeducated. Show trials of “imperialist agents” would be staged. Action would be taken against nationalist and social democratic leaders, party activists, former civil servants, officers, and priests. The last vestiges of private enterprise and ownership would be obliterated. Nationalization of industry, finance, and agriculture would be completed. In fact, all the totalitarian features familiar from the early stages of the Soviet revolution and the postwar Stalinist years in Eastern Europe might be expected to reappear, especially in those countries newly won for Communism. Unchallenged and unchallengeable, a true Communist monolith would dominate the world.’


&lt;/i&gt;

i wonder how one refutes such successful prediction from a man fron the inside? 

does anything here from 1984 sound familar now in 2009?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>THE WORLDWIDE COMMUNIST FEDERATION (should they succeed…taken from Golitsyn’s book New Lies For Old, 1984) </p>
<p>‘Integration of the Communist Bloc would follow the lines envisaged by Lenin when the Third Communist International was founded. That is to say, the Soviet Union and China would not absorb one another or other Communist states. All the countries of the European and Asiatic Communist zones, together with new Communist states in Europe and the Third World, would join a supranational economic and political Communist federation (this is precisely what the Soviets have in mind for the impending EU collective—TTS). Soviet-Albanian, Soviet-Yugoslav, and Soviet-Romanian disputes and ‘differences’ would be resolved in the wake, or possibly in advance of, Sino-Soviet reconciliation (Golitsyn goes to great lengths in previous chapters to show how the split between the Soviets and the Chinese was completely healed immediately after Stalin’s death…however, they continued the illusion of a split to dupe the West into backing alternating sides, depending on circumstances—TTS). The political, economic, military, diplomatic, and ideological cooperation between all the Communist states, at present partially concealed, would become clearly visible. There might even be public acknowledgment that the splits and disputes were long-term disinformation operations that had successfully deceived the “imperialist” powers. The effect on Western morale can be imagined’ (the Soviets have employed this tactic on numerous occasions—TTS). </p>
<p>‘In the new worldwide Communist federation the present different brands of Communism would disappear, to be replaced by a uniform, rigorous brand of Leninism. The process would be painful. Concessions made in the name of economic and political reform would be withdrawn. Religious and intellectual dissent would be suppressed. Nationalism and all other forms of genuine oppositions would be crushed. Those who had taken advantage of détente to establish friendly Western contacts would be rebuked or persecuted like those Soviet officers who worked with the Allies during the Second World War. In new Communist states—for example, in France, Italy, and the Third World—the “alienated classes” would be reeducated. Show trials of “imperialist agents” would be staged. Action would be taken against nationalist and social democratic leaders, party activists, former civil servants, officers, and priests. The last vestiges of private enterprise and ownership would be obliterated. Nationalization of industry, finance, and agriculture would be completed. In fact, all the totalitarian features familiar from the early stages of the Soviet revolution and the postwar Stalinist years in Eastern Europe might be expected to reappear, especially in those countries newly won for Communism. Unchallenged and unchallengeable, a true Communist monolith would dominate the world.’</p>
<p></i></p>
<p>i wonder how one refutes such successful prediction from a man fron the inside? </p>
<p>does anything here from 1984 sound familar now in 2009?</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:35:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in 1984 Golitsyn made predictions...

&lt;i&gt;Golitsyn provided an entire chapter of such predictions, containing 194 distinct auguries. Of these, 46 were not soon falsifiable (it was too early to tell, e.g., whether Russian economic ministries would be dissolved); another 9 predictions (e.g., of a prominent Yugoslavian role in East-Bloc liberalization) seemed clearly wrong. Yet of Golitsyn&#039;s falsifiable predictions, 139 out of 148 were fulfilled by the end of 1993 -- an accuracy rate of nearly 94 percent&lt;/i&gt;


Among events correctly foreseen:

&quot;the return to power of Dubcek and his associates&quot; in Czechoslovakia

the reemergence of Solidarity&quot; and the formation of a &quot;coalition government&quot; in Poland

a newly &quot;independent&quot; regime in Romania

&quot;economic reforms&quot; in the USSR

the Soviet repudiation of the Afghanistan invasion

&lt;b&gt;Golitsyn even envisioned that, with the &quot;easing of immigration controls&quot; by East Germany, &quot;pressure could well grow for the solution of the German problem [by] some form of confederation between East and West,&quot; with the result that &quot;demolition of the Berlin Wall might even be contemplated.&quot; &lt;/b&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Golitsyn’s Specific Predictions from his 1984 book New Lies For Old. 

Pages 327-328: “The Communist strategists are now poised to enter into the final, offensive phase of the long-range policy, entailing a joint struggle for the complete triumph of Communism. Given the multiplicity of parties in power, the close links between them, and the opportunities they have had to broaden their bases and build up experienced cadres, the Communist strategists are equipped, in pursuing their policy, to engage in maneuvers and stratagems beyond the imagination of Marx or the practical reach of Lenin and unthinkable to Stalin. Among such…stratagems are the introduction of false liberalization in Eastern Europe and, probably, in the Soviet Union and the exhibition of spurious independence on the part of the regimes in Romania, Czechoslovakia and Poland. 
&lt;/i&gt;


and to someone above that mentioned a &quot;quiet revolution&quot;..

&lt;i&gt;Pages 224-226: “It would be worthwhile for the West to study the scenario and techniques of the Czechoslovak experiment [of 1968]—so as not to be taken in again. The scenario could well be repeated in essence, although with local variations…The staging of the ‘quiet revolution’ and its reversal served a wide variety of strategic and tactical objectives. [Among them:] 

· To arouse sentiment against military pacts in Europe 

· To increase pressure in the West for the convening of a conference on security in Europe, the Communist interest in which is to promote the dissolution of military pacts, the creation of a neutral, socialist Europe, and the withdrawal of the American military presence. 

· To rehearse and gain experience for the repetition of ‘democratization’ in Czechoslovakia, the Soviet Union, or elsewhere in Eastern Europe during the final phase of the long-range policy of the Bloc.” 

&lt;/i&gt;

being i am Czechoslovakia i know that history too 


there are literally hundreds of correct predictions. 
as golitsyn claimed to be part of the planning of all that.  

but everyone was just as reasonable.. 

&lt;i&gt;Political ‘liberalization’ and ‘democratization’ would follow the general lines of the Czechoslovak rehearsal in 1968. This rehearsal might well have been the kind of political experiment Nikolay Mironov [former head of the Party’s Administrative Organs Department] had in mind as early as 1960. The ‘liberalization’ would be spectacular and impressive. Formal pronouncements might be made about a reduction in the Communist Party’s role; its monopoly would be apparently curtailed. An ostensible separation of powers between legislative, executive, and the judiciary might be introduced. The Supreme Soviet would be given greater apparent power and the president and deputies greater apparent independence. 

The posts of President of the Soviet Union and First Secretary of the Party might well be separated. The KGB would be ‘reformed’. Dissidents at home would take up positions of leadership in government. Sakharov might be included in some capacity in government or allowed to teach abroad. The creative arts and cultural and scientific organizations, such as writers’ unions and the Academy of Sciences, would become apparently more independent, as would the trade unions. Political clubs would be opened to non-members of the Communist Party. 

Leading dissidents might form one or more alternative political parties. Censorship would be relaxed; controversial books, plays, films, and art would be published, performed and exhibited. Many prominent Soviet performing artists now abroad would return to the Soviet Union and resume their professional careers. Constitutional amendments would be adopted to guarantee fulfillment of the provisions of the Helsinki agreements and a semblance of compliance would be maintained. There would be greater freedom for the Soviet citizens to travel. Western and United Nations observers would be invited to the Soviet Union to witness the reforms in action. 

&lt;b&gt;But, as in the Czechoslovak case, the ‘liberalization’ would be calculated and deceptive in that it would be introduced from above. It would be carried out by the Party through its cells and individual members of government, the Supreme Soviet, the courts, and the electoral machinery and by the KGB through its agents among the intellectuals and scientists…” 
&lt;/b&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in 1984 Golitsyn made predictions&#8230;</p>
<p><i>Golitsyn provided an entire chapter of such predictions, containing 194 distinct auguries. Of these, 46 were not soon falsifiable (it was too early to tell, e.g., whether Russian economic ministries would be dissolved); another 9 predictions (e.g., of a prominent Yugoslavian role in East-Bloc liberalization) seemed clearly wrong. Yet of Golitsyn&#8217;s falsifiable predictions, 139 out of 148 were fulfilled by the end of 1993 &#8212; an accuracy rate of nearly 94 percent</i></p>
<p>Among events correctly foreseen:</p>
<p>&#8220;the return to power of Dubcek and his associates&#8221; in Czechoslovakia</p>
<p>the reemergence of Solidarity&#8221; and the formation of a &#8220;coalition government&#8221; in Poland</p>
<p>a newly &#8220;independent&#8221; regime in Romania</p>
<p>&#8220;economic reforms&#8221; in the USSR</p>
<p>the Soviet repudiation of the Afghanistan invasion</p>
<p><b>Golitsyn even envisioned that, with the &#8220;easing of immigration controls&#8221; by East Germany, &#8220;pressure could well grow for the solution of the German problem [by] some form of confederation between East and West,&#8221; with the result that &#8220;demolition of the Berlin Wall might even be contemplated.&#8221; </b></p>
<p><i>Golitsyn’s Specific Predictions from his 1984 book New Lies For Old. </p>
<p>Pages 327-328: “The Communist strategists are now poised to enter into the final, offensive phase of the long-range policy, entailing a joint struggle for the complete triumph of Communism. Given the multiplicity of parties in power, the close links between them, and the opportunities they have had to broaden their bases and build up experienced cadres, the Communist strategists are equipped, in pursuing their policy, to engage in maneuvers and stratagems beyond the imagination of Marx or the practical reach of Lenin and unthinkable to Stalin. Among such…stratagems are the introduction of false liberalization in Eastern Europe and, probably, in the Soviet Union and the exhibition of spurious independence on the part of the regimes in Romania, Czechoslovakia and Poland.<br />
</i></p>
<p>and to someone above that mentioned a &#8220;quiet revolution&#8221;..</p>
<p><i>Pages 224-226: “It would be worthwhile for the West to study the scenario and techniques of the Czechoslovak experiment [of 1968]—so as not to be taken in again. The scenario could well be repeated in essence, although with local variations…The staging of the ‘quiet revolution’ and its reversal served a wide variety of strategic and tactical objectives. [Among them:] </p>
<p>· To arouse sentiment against military pacts in Europe </p>
<p>· To increase pressure in the West for the convening of a conference on security in Europe, the Communist interest in which is to promote the dissolution of military pacts, the creation of a neutral, socialist Europe, and the withdrawal of the American military presence. </p>
<p>· To rehearse and gain experience for the repetition of ‘democratization’ in Czechoslovakia, the Soviet Union, or elsewhere in Eastern Europe during the final phase of the long-range policy of the Bloc.” </p>
<p></i></p>
<p>being i am Czechoslovakia i know that history too </p>
<p>there are literally hundreds of correct predictions.<br />
as golitsyn claimed to be part of the planning of all that.  </p>
<p>but everyone was just as reasonable.. </p>
<p><i>Political ‘liberalization’ and ‘democratization’ would follow the general lines of the Czechoslovak rehearsal in 1968. This rehearsal might well have been the kind of political experiment Nikolay Mironov [former head of the Party’s Administrative Organs Department] had in mind as early as 1960. The ‘liberalization’ would be spectacular and impressive. Formal pronouncements might be made about a reduction in the Communist Party’s role; its monopoly would be apparently curtailed. An ostensible separation of powers between legislative, executive, and the judiciary might be introduced. The Supreme Soviet would be given greater apparent power and the president and deputies greater apparent independence. </p>
<p>The posts of President of the Soviet Union and First Secretary of the Party might well be separated. The KGB would be ‘reformed’. Dissidents at home would take up positions of leadership in government. Sakharov might be included in some capacity in government or allowed to teach abroad. The creative arts and cultural and scientific organizations, such as writers’ unions and the Academy of Sciences, would become apparently more independent, as would the trade unions. Political clubs would be opened to non-members of the Communist Party. </p>
<p>Leading dissidents might form one or more alternative political parties. Censorship would be relaxed; controversial books, plays, films, and art would be published, performed and exhibited. Many prominent Soviet performing artists now abroad would return to the Soviet Union and resume their professional careers. Constitutional amendments would be adopted to guarantee fulfillment of the provisions of the Helsinki agreements and a semblance of compliance would be maintained. There would be greater freedom for the Soviet citizens to travel. Western and United Nations observers would be invited to the Soviet Union to witness the reforms in action. </p>
<p><b>But, as in the Czechoslovak case, the ‘liberalization’ would be calculated and deceptive in that it would be introduced from above. It would be carried out by the Party through its cells and individual members of government, the Supreme Soviet, the courts, and the electoral machinery and by the KGB through its agents among the intellectuals and scientists…”<br />
</b><br />
</i></p>
<p>lets talk some more about naive&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Artfldgr</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here is a perfect example of the effect i have been trying to elucidate without much success. 

Are We Witnessing the Collapse of Liberalism?
By J. Robert Smith
www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/are_we_witnessing_the_collapse.html

&lt;i&gt;Are we witnessing the beginnings of another historic event, loosely comparable to the fall of communism twenty years ago?  Now the fall of liberalism?

&lt;b&gt;Remember, at the beginning of the 1980s, no one would have predicted that by the decade&#039;s close the Berlin Wall would fall, communism would be discredited and the Soviet Union would be less than a couple of years away from dissolution.&lt;/b&gt; &lt;/i&gt;


well, communism wasnt dissolved... was it? 

&lt;b&gt;In the 1960&#039;s, a Major in the KGB, Antoliy Golitsyn, defected to the West. He warned that communism was going to become more open and more &quot;liberal&quot;. It would begin resembling Western democracy in most ways. Nobody believed Golitsyn back then. But in 1984, Golitsyn accurately predicted that the Berlin wall would yet come down when communism started changing itself across Europe. His prediction came true five years later. He predicted that communism would appear to fall and that communist parties would start changing their names. They would call themselves &quot;social democrats&quot; or use some similar label. Golitsyn explained the inner workings of communism in great detail in a book he wrote called New Lies for Old. Golitsyn warned that a newer and better pack of lies had been devised. It would be very difficult to tell the difference between this new communism and normal Western democracy. Golitsyn believed that even highly trained intelligence agents would be fooled by this new communism... &lt;/b&gt; 

that was not from his book but from Government By Deception, psychopolitics in southern africa.

from chapter 2
&lt;i&gt;Marxists are devils who pose as Gods. They preach heaven but leave hell in their wake.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Chapter 9. The Communist Elite 
Many people think that communists are stupid. Anyone who believes this does not have the faintest clue what a communist is or how he thinks. What will surprise those who are unfamiliar with communism is how hypocritical they are 
&lt;/i&gt;

hey!!!  isnt naive and stupid what huxley and others constantly say... and yet... almost all the globe is socialist... 

not bad for a failed system

and th successful system of capitalism is where? under the control of socialism world wide.. 

pretty crappy its a slave of socialism...
which failed.

&lt;i&gt;It is one thing to be blamed for a crime you did commit, but what if you are blamed for a crime you did not commit? Spies are the first echelon of a clandestine communist offensive. But there are other specialists they also use. The one is the &quot;agent of influence&quot; and the other is the provocateur. In this chapter we will discuss the provocateur because this is a truly dangerous man.

The provocateur is someone who goes on to the enemy side pretending to be one of them. His aim is to encourage them to stir up trouble, or to stir up trouble in their name. The point of the exercise is to set up the enemy for a fall. This may or may not be accompanied by a propaganda campaign... &lt;/i&gt;

but few want to talk methodology, history, and such. 

no.

they would rather invent the reason, and ignore history, and ignore the events of the past 100 years. and ignore the open archives, and ignore the actual conspiracies, as if open and transparent were the norm, and hidden from view is some wierd abberant thing. 

&lt;i&gt;Chapter 11. Blaming The Whites 
... Communists are always trying to smear their opponents. Over the years they have blamed all manner of things on the whites that we had no hand in. They work on the principle that if you throw enough mud at someone, some of it will stick...  
&lt;/i&gt;

has any one caught on that this stuff explained about south africa, sounds just like here? 

and if you read in detail, you will find that its the same in venezuela. and others. 

you are so busy trying to find a way that obama is NOT like his family who facilitated the coupe that took kenya down communism... and he isnt like his momma, dada, friends, and otehrs. 

he is completely clean standing up to his neck in crap...

here is a related story to obama!!! 
www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,833698,00.html  
Kenya: Why We Reject Communism
Friday, Jun. 11, &lt;b&gt;1965&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Like many other leaders of new African nations, President Jomo Kenyatta has not found it easy to steer a middle course between East and West. His job has not been made easier by the activities of his own Vice President, Oginga Odinga, who admits that &quot;Communism is like food to me&quot; and has been trav eling through the countryside heaping Red-tinged scorn on Kenyatta&#039;s ties with the West.

&lt;/i&gt;

and who is this odinga?  obamas family!!! 

&lt;i&gt;Last week things reached a climax of sorts when Odinga, in his first direct attack on his President, rose at a rally on the shore of Lake Victoria to de clare that Kenyatta had fallen under imperialist influence and was all but taking his orders from the U.S. and Britain. It brought an outraged response from Kenyatta&#039;s Cabinet ministers, who called the attack &quot;cheap politics&quot; and &quot;calculated to further the cause of Communism.&quot; Five party leaders, already angered by Odinga&#039;s role in Communist arms imports (TIME, April 23), signed a petition demanding his resignation from the government.

&lt;/i&gt;

but what happened? 

well, it wasnt for almost 2 decades. after Jomo Kenyatta died. 


in the 1980s he helped and nearly succeeded in a coupe in kenya.  but obamas family member history is interesting. 

&lt;i&gt;Odinga pursued his own path of dissent, spending much of the 1980s in jail or under house arrest for his alleged role in plotting a 1982 coup. &lt;/i&gt;

&lt;b&gt;&quot;I represent change,&quot; the politician said at his party headquarters in the capital, Nairobi, appearing bleary-eyed and tired from fighting a political war that began with the disputed Dec. 27 presidential election. &quot;People voted for me because they want change.&quot;&lt;/b&gt;

CHANGE... does that sound familiar? 

but of course obama wouldnt be like his genetic family. he wouldnt be trying to apply what his uncle and others did? would he? 

&lt;b&gt;at least his creds are a relationship to a despotic man who attempted to overthrow his state to put in a communist government. in fact he worked for over 30 years to do so. &lt;/b&gt;

so obama is not just some college kid.. he is related to some of the great commuist revolutionaries in history. 

a history that we are ignorant of....

&#039;I chose my friends carefully&#039; 
-- Obama, Dreams From My Father

and waht a list of family and friends it is. it reads like a whos who of commuist and islamic history late last century. 

Bill Ayers - Bernadine Dohrn - Frank Marshall Davis (ANOTHER LEFT LIBERAL PEDOPHILE) - Jeremiah Wright –  Louis Farrakhan - Koji Ariyoshi (tried to overthrow american government) - Khalid al-Mansour a.k.a. Don Warden (mentored founding members of black panthers) - Mike Klonsky (self prounounced commnuist working for such in schools - he writes the social justice blog on obamas web site) - John L. McKnight (former ACLU director, recomended obama to harvard, on board of militant national peoples action which uses alynskite methods) - Quentin Young -  Raila Odinga (as mentioned above - obama helped him campaign) -  Rob Malley (had to resign for being tied to hammas) -  Rashid Khalidi - Edward W. Said (York magazine once called him &quot;Arafat&#039;s man in New York.&quot; - arafat worked for soviet russia through ceucescau) -  Ali Abunimah (cofounder of electronic intifada) - Michael Pfleger (another reverend) - Carl Davidson (former SDS member now member of progressives for obama) - Alice Palmer (Former IL state Senator, an official of a notorious Communist front group (so identified by the FBI), the U.S. Peace Council) - Bernie Sanders (openly socialist senator of vermont) - Tony Resko 

and thats just his older freinds. 

anyone care to discuss history as a WORLD thing, and not just a local thing spaning the last 15 years?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here is a perfect example of the effect i have been trying to elucidate without much success. </p>
<p>Are We Witnessing the Collapse of Liberalism?<br />
By J. Robert Smith<br />
<a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/are_we_witnessing_the_collapse.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/09/are_we_witnessing_the_collapse.html</a></p>
<p><i>Are we witnessing the beginnings of another historic event, loosely comparable to the fall of communism twenty years ago?  Now the fall of liberalism?</p>
<p><b>Remember, at the beginning of the 1980s, no one would have predicted that by the decade&#8217;s close the Berlin Wall would fall, communism would be discredited and the Soviet Union would be less than a couple of years away from dissolution.</b> </i></p>
<p>well, communism wasnt dissolved&#8230; was it? </p>
<p><b>In the 1960&#8242;s, a Major in the KGB, Antoliy Golitsyn, defected to the West. He warned that communism was going to become more open and more &#8220;liberal&#8221;. It would begin resembling Western democracy in most ways. Nobody believed Golitsyn back then. But in 1984, Golitsyn accurately predicted that the Berlin wall would yet come down when communism started changing itself across Europe. His prediction came true five years later. He predicted that communism would appear to fall and that communist parties would start changing their names. They would call themselves &#8220;social democrats&#8221; or use some similar label. Golitsyn explained the inner workings of communism in great detail in a book he wrote called New Lies for Old. Golitsyn warned that a newer and better pack of lies had been devised. It would be very difficult to tell the difference between this new communism and normal Western democracy. Golitsyn believed that even highly trained intelligence agents would be fooled by this new communism&#8230; </b> </p>
<p>that was not from his book but from Government By Deception, psychopolitics in southern africa.</p>
<p>from chapter 2<br />
<i>Marxists are devils who pose as Gods. They preach heaven but leave hell in their wake.</i></p>
<p><i>Chapter 9. The Communist Elite<br />
Many people think that communists are stupid. Anyone who believes this does not have the faintest clue what a communist is or how he thinks. What will surprise those who are unfamiliar with communism is how hypocritical they are<br />
</i></p>
<p>hey!!!  isnt naive and stupid what huxley and others constantly say&#8230; and yet&#8230; almost all the globe is socialist&#8230; </p>
<p>not bad for a failed system</p>
<p>and th successful system of capitalism is where? under the control of socialism world wide.. </p>
<p>pretty crappy its a slave of socialism&#8230;<br />
which failed.</p>
<p><i>It is one thing to be blamed for a crime you did commit, but what if you are blamed for a crime you did not commit? Spies are the first echelon of a clandestine communist offensive. But there are other specialists they also use. The one is the &#8220;agent of influence&#8221; and the other is the provocateur. In this chapter we will discuss the provocateur because this is a truly dangerous man.</p>
<p>The provocateur is someone who goes on to the enemy side pretending to be one of them. His aim is to encourage them to stir up trouble, or to stir up trouble in their name. The point of the exercise is to set up the enemy for a fall. This may or may not be accompanied by a propaganda campaign&#8230; </i></p>
<p>but few want to talk methodology, history, and such. </p>
<p>no.</p>
<p>they would rather invent the reason, and ignore history, and ignore the events of the past 100 years. and ignore the open archives, and ignore the actual conspiracies, as if open and transparent were the norm, and hidden from view is some wierd abberant thing. </p>
<p><i>Chapter 11. Blaming The Whites<br />
&#8230; Communists are always trying to smear their opponents. Over the years they have blamed all manner of things on the whites that we had no hand in. They work on the principle that if you throw enough mud at someone, some of it will stick&#8230;<br />
</i></p>
<p>has any one caught on that this stuff explained about south africa, sounds just like here? </p>
<p>and if you read in detail, you will find that its the same in venezuela. and others. </p>
<p>you are so busy trying to find a way that obama is NOT like his family who facilitated the coupe that took kenya down communism&#8230; and he isnt like his momma, dada, friends, and otehrs. </p>
<p>he is completely clean standing up to his neck in crap&#8230;</p>
<p>here is a related story to obama!!!<br />
<a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,833698,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,833698,00.html</a><br />
Kenya: Why We Reject Communism<br />
Friday, Jun. 11, <b>1965</b></p>
<p><i>Like many other leaders of new African nations, President Jomo Kenyatta has not found it easy to steer a middle course between East and West. His job has not been made easier by the activities of his own Vice President, Oginga Odinga, who admits that &#8220;Communism is like food to me&#8221; and has been trav eling through the countryside heaping Red-tinged scorn on Kenyatta&#8217;s ties with the West.</p>
<p></i></p>
<p>and who is this odinga?  obamas family!!! </p>
<p><i>Last week things reached a climax of sorts when Odinga, in his first direct attack on his President, rose at a rally on the shore of Lake Victoria to de clare that Kenyatta had fallen under imperialist influence and was all but taking his orders from the U.S. and Britain. It brought an outraged response from Kenyatta&#8217;s Cabinet ministers, who called the attack &#8220;cheap politics&#8221; and &#8220;calculated to further the cause of Communism.&#8221; Five party leaders, already angered by Odinga&#8217;s role in Communist arms imports (TIME, April 23), signed a petition demanding his resignation from the government.</p>
<p></i></p>
<p>but what happened? </p>
<p>well, it wasnt for almost 2 decades. after Jomo Kenyatta died. </p>
<p>in the 1980s he helped and nearly succeeded in a coupe in kenya.  but obamas family member history is interesting. </p>
<p><i>Odinga pursued his own path of dissent, spending much of the 1980s in jail or under house arrest for his alleged role in plotting a 1982 coup. </i></p>
<p><b>&#8220;I represent change,&#8221; the politician said at his party headquarters in the capital, Nairobi, appearing bleary-eyed and tired from fighting a political war that began with the disputed Dec. 27 presidential election. &#8220;People voted for me because they want change.&#8221;</b></p>
<p>CHANGE&#8230; does that sound familiar? </p>
<p>but of course obama wouldnt be like his genetic family. he wouldnt be trying to apply what his uncle and others did? would he? </p>
<p><b>at least his creds are a relationship to a despotic man who attempted to overthrow his state to put in a communist government. in fact he worked for over 30 years to do so. </b></p>
<p>so obama is not just some college kid.. he is related to some of the great commuist revolutionaries in history. </p>
<p>a history that we are ignorant of&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8216;I chose my friends carefully&#8217;<br />
&#8211; Obama, Dreams From My Father</p>
<p>and waht a list of family and friends it is. it reads like a whos who of commuist and islamic history late last century. </p>
<p>Bill Ayers &#8211; Bernadine Dohrn &#8211; Frank Marshall Davis (ANOTHER LEFT LIBERAL PEDOPHILE) &#8211; Jeremiah Wright –  Louis Farrakhan &#8211; Koji Ariyoshi (tried to overthrow american government) &#8211; Khalid al-Mansour a.k.a. Don Warden (mentored founding members of black panthers) &#8211; Mike Klonsky (self prounounced commnuist working for such in schools &#8211; he writes the social justice blog on obamas web site) &#8211; John L. McKnight (former ACLU director, recomended obama to harvard, on board of militant national peoples action which uses alynskite methods) &#8211; Quentin Young &#8211;  Raila Odinga (as mentioned above &#8211; obama helped him campaign) &#8211;  Rob Malley (had to resign for being tied to hammas) &#8211;  Rashid Khalidi &#8211; Edward W. Said (York magazine once called him &#8220;Arafat&#8217;s man in New York.&#8221; &#8211; arafat worked for soviet russia through ceucescau) &#8211;  Ali Abunimah (cofounder of electronic intifada) &#8211; Michael Pfleger (another reverend) &#8211; Carl Davidson (former SDS member now member of progressives for obama) &#8211; Alice Palmer (Former IL state Senator, an official of a notorious Communist front group (so identified by the FBI), the U.S. Peace Council) &#8211; Bernie Sanders (openly socialist senator of vermont) &#8211; Tony Resko </p>
<p>and thats just his older freinds. </p>
<p>anyone care to discuss history as a WORLD thing, and not just a local thing spaning the last 15 years?</p>
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